Misconceptions about Atheism.

Why I express my views.

Religion is one of the most fascinating topics of discussion known to man. What makes it fascinating is the diversity of opinion about our origins, about our purpose in life and about where we go in the hereafter. Consider for one moment how many religions there are, world-wide. Probably too many to name. Each believing that their version of events is the correct one. Some religions might count their flock in thousands, while others have millions of followers, but the only thing that one can deduce from this is that mankind NEEDS RELIGION.

Some scientists believe that Science will eventually answer many of the questions that Religion fails to answer, but I happen to disagree. We will never know for certain how it all began, just as we will never know for certain how it will all end, until it does all end, and frankly, by that time, it won't really matter.

My choice of belief is in a MYSTERY. I feel as ill-equipped as a cow or a rabbit to make a judgement on the TRUTH about our existence. Despite our superior powers of thought, speech, communication, perception, etc, etc, we are no closer to understanding the MYSTERY than we were thousands of years ago. People will report that they have died and come back to life, and that they now understand what life is all about, but such claims are never supported by irrefutable evidence. People report that an angel appeared to them and showed them how to live their lives correctly, but again, a lack of evidence renders such claims as flights of fancy, from my perspective anyway.

All we DO have evidence of is the world in which we live. Our natural environment. Mother Nature, with all her wonders, with her awesome power, and her indiscriminate regard, or disregard, for any species or life form. And when it comes to our position within Nature's order, I would have to claim that we are, by far, the most destructive animal on the planet. We assume to have superior intelligence, a position of self-elevation that is not borne out by the way in which we manage our planet. We have wiped out other species of animal, we have disrupted the natural resources of the planet, changed landscapes to suit our own purposes, turned areas of natural beauty into concrete jungles, invented a million and one ways to destroy not only our environment, but even human life. And we call this intelligence?

A spider is more creative and industrious in the creation of a web than the greatest of our architects, yet not one spider has a masters degree in engineering. A bird has the ability to fly, a fish to breath underwater, an ant to carry ten times it's body weight, a chameleon to change colour to camoflage it's presence. Every creature on earth has some gift, some specific attribute that makes it unique, and yet we still insist that our gift is superior to all others. And Religion, in my humble opinion, is what gives us that feeling of superiority.

We have a NEED to believe that there is more to our existence than the sorry lot of every other creature in the world. So we have created a divine purpose for ourselves. Whether it is God or Baal or Buddha or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, we have appointed ourselves as the chosen servants of some super-natural deity whose path for us is to manage and supervise this planet until our dying day, at which point we will be rewarded for our efforts with the promise of eternal life! We pray to invisible Gods, we aspire to reach eternal destinations, of which there is no evidence of them even existing. And because we have created these beliefs, we can conveniently dismiss all the unanswerable questions with the claim of 'Divine intervention', the old "God moves in a mysterious way" argument. Ask a Christian why an eight year old dies of cancer, and the response will be "Ours is not to reason why. God has a plan for all of us!" The truth is that natural can be as ugly as she is beautiful, and as with every other species, we can not defy nature.

The folly of religion is to assign to God/Gods, all that is good, (a child who mysteriously recovers from an illness.) but to dismiss as misfortune or the work of the devil, all that is not so pleasant. But in a world that has a supposed God/Gods as a guardian, why do so many innocents suffer? If God is a loving, compassionate God, why doesn't he intervene. Why would a loving God create a world and fill it with so much misery? The fall of mankind from grace doesn't explain why cancer exists, or Multiple sclerosis, or gout or autism. What rational argument is there for so much sorrow? And if the sorrow is all the work of the devil, are we to then assume that God is less powerful than Satan?

My atheism stems from research, from reading and knowing the Bible, and from finding it irrational, illogical, unreasonable and contradictory. The main thrust of my disbelief is that God himself created evil, and for anyone to deny that, they are denying the premise that God is the creator of everything. As the designer of all things, what flaw did he make that allowed Lucifer to display jealousy of God's power? If all was created to perfection, how did Lucifer slip through the net? And when he DID slip through the net, why was he then permitted to co-exist with God and become the tempter of mankind? Why did God plant a tree of knowledge in the middle of Paradise, laced with forbidden fruit? Would a responsible parent set a gram of heroine on a table and tell a child "Don't touch that. It's bad for you?" Why? Why would someone who loved his children unconditionally, deliberately put temptation at their fingertips?

The tired old argument will be that God gave man free will. To choose between good and evil! But why? I have already written a hub about giving a choice where both outcomes are good. But God forced mankind to choose between good and evil, even in his all-knowing wisdom that many would make the wrong choice. Which brings us to the REASON why the religious stories HAVE to include evil, and Satan.

Without a need for Salvation, religion has no credibility, no purpose. Without their being a sacrifice, mankind is incapable of accepting the premise that there might be eternal life. To give our existence a purpose, there has to be a challenge, a goal to achieve, and that goal is obedience. Part and parcel of that obedience is FAITH or BELIEF, for as long as we have a belief that everything CAN work out to our advantage, then we don't NEED to answer the unanswerable questions.

Don't shoot me.... these are just my opinions, and each of you is entitled to agree or disagree with them. What are NOT allowed to do, or SHOULD not be allowed to do, is to dismiss them.

Am I really a Satanist?

Am I evil?

No. Of course I am not. There's not an evil bone in my body. I have a deep love of humanity, nature, the world I live in, my family, my friends, and even, on occasions, a respect for my enemies. I have love for Biblical stories, and much of the morality that they promote. Despite not believing in a Biblical God, the vast majority of Biblical messages are based entirely on humanitarian principals, and Jesus, as a story-teller, was above all, a humanitarian.

Neither do I have a disregard for Christians. While I totally understand their desire for their beliefs to be accurate, I don't understand how they can logically accept the premise of their beliefs. But why on earth would I hate anyone for wanting to believe in God and Salvation, and Heaven? Other religions have remarkably admirable qualities, involving Karma, piece of mind, being at one with the Universe. If it works for them, so be it, and I'm very happy to acknowledge their right to their beliefs.

What I ask in return is the right to hold MY beliefs, without being labelled EVIL, SATANIC, ANTI-CHRISTIAN..... and even worse, IGNORANT.

On other websites, I have been a frequent debater with Baptists and Born-again Christians, and what disturbs and insults me is the notion, as expressed by them, that I am an atheist because I am ignorant of the truth. That I should actually read the Bible. That I obviously haven't studied the Bible. That I haven't really TRIED to find God. Not quite as hurtful, but equally annoying is the supposition that I'm obviously under the influence of Satan himself.

This is what I mean about misconceptions about Atheists. There is an arrogance about people who accept BELIEF as TRUTH. There is an assumption that anyone who doesn't share their TRUTH is in some way unintelligent, unlearned, ignorant or just plain stubborn. I HAVE read the Bible, moreover, I have STUDIED it. I have also read the Quran/Koran, and have dipped my toe into several other religious orders in a quest to find a better understanding of the great unknowns. I rarely quote Chapter and verse, as I believe it to be a futile exercise. Two thousand years of having to defend the indefensible has given the God-squad the ability to be very selective in what they quote, and in how it suits their purposes. For anyone to suggest that I am unintelligent because I differ with their viewpoint is not only insulting, but also dangerously antagonistic. The inability to accept diversity of opinion is the cause of most of the major conflicts of the modern world. And when a Faith becomes so steadyfast in their own righteousness, the foundations of Holy War have been laid.

I believe in "Live and let live", a world where we can all co-exist through a respect for the other persons point of view, but when any individual group insists that their way is the only way, and those who disagree should be dealt with, then the balance is disrupted, and chaos pervades.

If you believe in God, or Allah, or Buddha, or Astro-cat, it's fine by me, and I fully respect your right to do so. I do not think you are stupid or unintelligent, I simply assume that you have weighed up the arguments, and have come to a different conclusion to mine. That's fine. God/Allah/Buddha/Astro-cat Bless you, and I hope you'll be very happy.

Now please allow me the same courtesy!

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Dexter Yarbrough profile image

Dexter Yarbrough 5 years ago from United States

Wow. What a fantastic hub! While I am not an atheist, I do respect your right to believe as you wish. From my understanding of the sayings of Christ, had you encountered him, he would have respected your forthrightness as opposed to the evil Pharisees (religious leaders) that laid in wait to cause mischief.

I hope others that say they believe in a supreme being will hearken to the words that Christ said was needed to inherit eternal life; "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself."

The last of this two-part requirement, "...and your neighbor as yourself," is where many so-called believers falter because they fail to abide by the beginning, "You shall love..." This is why you are attacked, labeled and unduly criticized.

Quite frankly, you make some very good points. For a long time, I did not always understand why God allows things to happen as they do. But like man has always done, we make the simplest of things extremely difficult.

Outstanding presentation!


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Thatguypk 5 years ago Author

Thank you kindly, Dexter.

Love thy neighbour is a very good principal by which to live a wholesome life.

Your remarks are most welcome.


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pay2cEM 5 years ago from Nashville

And, as usual, I was right. This was thoughtful, insightful, and eloquently put.

Personally, one of my starting-point questions isn't, "Why didn't God just create two good choices between which to exercise Free Will?" but, "What sense did it make to punish someone for making the wrong choice before they even knew the concepts of right and wrong?" Loving parents don't punish their infants for disobeying because we realize that infants are incapable of even comprehending the instruction itself, let alone that they are obligated to follow it.


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Thatguypk 5 years ago Author

I must stop agreeing with you pay2cEM, the Christians will hate me!! :-)

On another religious website, I raised the question of Why would Adam and Eve have had any reason to doubt the sincerity of Satan, being, as they supposedly were, in a state of innocence, with no concept of evil or corruption? Had God said to them, "Oh, incidentally, there's this snakey type of guy wandering around the garden who happens to be satan, and he's gonna tell you that it's ok to eat the forbidden fruit, but he's an evil liar!" perhaps they would never have sinned, but to the best of my knowledge, that wasn't the case!


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MysteryPlanet 5 years ago

A really thought provoking hub and I agree with much of what you are saying. I just wanted to add my thoughts about atheism. To me an atheist doesnt make any more sense than a Believer. The reason I say that is because it is equally impossible to prove that there is no God as it is to prove that there is. An Agnostic basically says "I dont know for sure" but an Atheist says "I know for sure that there is no God" how can one know for sure?

Just my thoughts... Thanks for an interesting read


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Thatguypk 5 years ago Author

Hi Mystery Planet, and thank you for your comments.

Allow me to clear up the point you make about atheists, at least from my point of view. THIS atheist has never said "I know for sure...." about ANYTHING. On the contrary, I have made it clear, I think, that I am aware of a MYSTERY... but I don't BELIEVE that mystery to be the Biblical God.

Christians talk about the TRUTH of God, therefore asserting that God is a FACT. I would never presume to know for sure that my opinions were factual, they are quite simply my beliefs.

I'm all for people defending their beliefs, and I acknowledge the right of every individual to hold whatever belief they choose.

Best wishes.


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MysteryPlanet 5 years ago

Great response. I was speaking about atheists in general though and not about you in particular. I do believe that there is a God but I certainly dont know what the nature of that God is. I have studied a lot of different religions and myths around the world and so far the idea that makes the most sense to me pertains to the Annunaki and the Ancient Sumerians. I have challenged a few of my Christian friends and family with the statement that God is an alien to which they "freak out". Well, if he isnt an alien then he has to be from the Earth I respond. Just being funny but it makes sense.

Best regards and all the best to ya!


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mattb24 5 years ago

I think that if anyone knew the truth about God, they would be an enlightened being. We all learn everyday, we can get wiser over time and learn to live in better alignment with nature and positive energy. I guess that would make me an agnostic, I believe that this world is mysterious and that I don't know what is behind what we perceive.

I definitely have an open mind to learn but at the same time I believe that's important for anyone to make up their own mind about what they believe in. In my opinion experience is the best teacher. I would rather learn about the workings about God than reading it in a book.

What I find even more interesting is ourselves. How we have feelings, how we can love and how we can think. I think our perceptions make better sense when we can learn to let each part of ourselves work together. When people impose their beliefs on other without any respect, that is the mind or the ego working on its own disconnected from the other parts of self.


AntonOfTheNorth 5 years ago

Hey ThatGuy,

Just to quibble, does your belief not make you an agnostic (without knowledge) rather than an atheist (without god) ?

just curious

cheers


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Thatguypk 5 years ago Author

Nothing like a good quibble, Anton! :-)

I guess I'm somewhere in between. A kind of Agnatheist!!

I'm agnostic regarding the Mystery.... I merely accept that one exists, but I don't believe that it's a God, which kind of makes me Atheist.

Let's say I'm a humanist who celebrates the wonders of Nature. :-)


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QudsiaP1 5 years ago

I think it really at the end of the day depends all on what YOU really want to believe in. There are countless religions and countless beliefs and I could try my luck at trying to preach you my faith but heh, I am no preacher.

One thing that I liked about you is that you called yourself a 'humanist', that is so very important to me like had you said you were anti human, I would have totally lectured the crap outta you. :P

Hehehe...

All jokes apart, if you can be human, you are following every thing good that any religion asks you to. :)

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