Mosque of Manhattan

"Sensitivity goes both ways. If you really care build it elsewhere."

 NYer

No,thats not the mission Mr. President.
No,thats not the mission Mr. President.
No thats Saddam Sir; we want Bin Laden
No thats Saddam Sir; we want Bin Laden

The message from New Yorkers:

You can build a Mosque at Ground Zero when we can build a Synagogue in Mecca.

The comment that floored me went like this;

"They can build a Mosque anywhere except Ground Zero. After we lynch Osama Bin Laden in the pit, which currently is a shrine to a people we once were."

If this isn't juggling knives while riding a unicycle, then I don't know what is. The Right of Religious expression vs. the philosophical perspective of justifiably cynical New Yorkers.

Consider New yorkers as a culture within a culture. A strong sense of loyalty being a New Yorker. The thought process being " I can criticize my brother but you better shut up. The Brotherhood of Blue and Red are held in the highest regard.

"It's a matter of respect to the guys running into a burning building when common sense tells you you're goin' the wrong way..."

A Brotherhood amongst Brothers, if you will. It's roots are seated deeply within the culture and family.

"So when our President stands next to us, as we rumage through the rubble, in search for a fallen Brother; when our Prez says "The people who knocked these buildings down, will hear all of us soon. That's the moment the enemy was given a face, and the face was Osama Bin Laden."

"I think this particular head on a stick gives many New Yorkers closure. After that we'll talk about the Mosque."

"You wanna build a Mosque there, deliver Bin Laden for public hanging at the pit. Pay per view proceeds go for what the House failed to do. Keep the Blue and Red alive. Thanks alot for that US House of Representatives.. "

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gjfalcone 4 years ago from Gilbert, Arizona Author

Thanks for reviving this story with your comments at this moment in time. Lest we forget the conversation of religious freedom, relatively a short time ago, in context of this current conversation regarding the same topic.My comment would be; it would behoove us as Americans to take a step back, take a breath and decide where we come down on this First Amendment Right.

Thank You bizzymom for adding perspective to this highly charged relevant reflection.


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bizzymom 4 years ago from New York

Wow! The comments here are a little explosive! Building a mosque so close to ground zero is an insult to all who died there and gave their lives to save others as well as to the survivors who will always remember. Do you know that there was a small Greek Orthodox Church right off of Liberty Street which was destroyed on 9/11 along with everything else? Why hasn't anyone fought to rebuild that church first? Thanks for sharing your hub!


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gjfalcone 4 years ago from Gilbert, Arizona Author

If I may borrow the words from your comment;..."I am concerned about our society, government, and nation."

You know what they call that?...

Old School

Thank you for your kinds words.


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phdast7 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

Good Hub. I appreciate your perspective and your thoughtful and logical comments and responses. My father was career Air Force and as a citizen and a history teacher I am concerned about our society, government, and nation. I look forward to reading more of your work.


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gjfalcone 4 years ago from Gilbert, Arizona Author

I hope so, my advice was to pursue an opportunity he was offered toward Officers Candidate School.


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Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

I've an a conversation or two with an "Army Grunt" having been married to one for 35 years! I hope your response was smart - God willing.


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gjfalcone 4 years ago from Gilbert, Arizona Author

Ah Ms. Cochran,

It seems as though you've answered your own rhetorical question. Therefore, I'm left with being a sounding board, appearing to be at a loss for words, or...

I could let you in on a conversation with a 'Army Grunt' I had all too recently. In his mental preparitiveness for his upcoming orders to Afghanistan, he asked this..."so, where is Next?" and sadly I knew what he meant. Iran, I simpathically replied. "Not Korea, he asked", and my smart reply was...No, that's China's responsibility, they got Korea. And today I still shake my head recalling that conversation. We continue to think we're sooo smart.

Thanks for your comments, a pleasure, I assure you.


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Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

Weren't we all so smart when the Soviet Union fell predicting the next big conflict for America would be in the Middle East. Too bad we didn't connect the dots after the Soviets lost Afghanistan in time to keep the Taliban from filling the void we left. I pray for some respite for military families. We can't stay at war indefinitely, not with an Army no bigger than ours. We sent half a million troops to Desert Storm and it took us 100 hours to accomplish our goals. Not that those goals were adequate.


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gjfalcone 4 years ago from Gilbert, Arizona Author

Dear Ms. Cochran,

16 months ago I attempted to discuss this topic with Mr. Masood. 2 weeks ago, our House of Representatives passed a bill barring diplomacy with Iran by a margin of 399 votes. Coupled with the National Defence Authorization Act, which among other things, subjects American citizens to unconstitutional detainment, until the end of such hostilities. More comments could make me and those an enemy of the State. I'd say it's only a matter of time our before Boys will be sifting thru sand once again.


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Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

I'm sorry Mr. Masood was the only Moslem to respond since he has done so in such a disrespectful way that I don't believe does justice to the practitioners of that ancient faith. Even if he is an enemy of the U.S., he does not serve his purpose well with the way he expresses himself. I'd like to see more comments on the topic you have written about by those who have something constructive to say.


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gjfalcone 6 years ago from Gilbert, Arizona Author

Dear Masood,

Thank you fo your comments. Let me attempt to understand your contempt for me. You're of Muslum faith, from Iran. I understand progressives from Iran are dissappointed in the progressives in America. Acknowledge they are entirely different; the Government of Iran does not tolerate the degree of protest that is accepted in NYC.

If we overthrow our Gov't by peaceful means, is that not still overthrowing those previously in power?

We've spilled blood on our streets Sir. Its really difficult to clean and tends to leave a stain.

You're problem with me is regarding a bigger issue...Your confusing those in power with the will of the people.Do you think the people do not see? Do you think we know what is not for sale?

I say to you what you would expect to hear from those who suffer. You think we are naive as a people, when we are relatively youthful toward our experience with civilization. We recognize our mistakes Sir; when we need help fixin' them we'll ask, but don't expect us to ask.


Masood 6 years ago

I am supposed to be a Moslem from f...Iran.You Americans are really stupid. Defend your country. The hell with mosque and Islam. Don't you see your fucking government is cheating you and selling you and your country to fucking Arabs. You deserve to suffer. You are so naive...

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