New Age Infiltration of the Church

Today’s Christians are so spiritually dead, that they can be shown this unholy, demonic mess and never see anything wrong with it.
Today’s Christians are so spiritually dead, that they can be shown this unholy, demonic mess and never see anything wrong with it. | Source

We are in a time where New Age philosophy has infiltrated organized religion called “church.” Many are embracing the revelations and hidden “truths” of occult practices and are applying them as “worship” to Jesus Christ. The mainstream leaders falsely teach that it is okay to take foreign occult practices and reclaim them for God.

New Age spirituality is here and it is paving the way for professing “Christians” to meet God’s wrath.


The Tools of Satan

The New Age Christian's corrupt line of reasoning is that the tools of Satan can be used for God’s glory. This means that the abominable New Age practices are ancient “truths” that have been hijacked by Satan, but we are to recapture them back for God’s Kingdom. The common approach to these practices are the overemphasizing of signs and wonders through the promotion of contemplative prayer, meditation, yoga, trances, orbs, clairvoyance, impartation, empowerment, etc… These so called “truths” come from extracting them from New Age ideology and using them for “Jesus Christ.”

Essentially, modern “Christianity” is New Age practices repackaged with Christian lingo and terminology. The masses are drinking poison labelled as “truth” dispensed by “Christian” gurus and shamans disguised as followers of Jesus Christ.


Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. – Ephesians 5:11


And a number of those who had practiced magic arts brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. And they counted the value of them and found it came to fifty thousand pieces of silver. – Acts 19:19


The popular leaders within organized religion are spearheading the extra-Biblical religion that goes beyond the parameters of Scripture.

New Age practices are prevalent and welcomed by the deluded masses who believe that there can be a bridge between Christianity and the New Age movement. New Age “Christians” believe that they can attain the same power as Jesus Christ to perform great miracles of healing and signs and wonders that will bring about great revival upon the whole earth through their doctrine of dominion. They believe that special empowered elite individuals will subdue the earth before the return of Jesus Christ. The power that will be displayed will greatly supersede the Pentecost and will transform them into the next level of spirituality by accessing the vibrations, or frequencies of “God” that are embedded in His creation.

The New Age paradigm turns God into a form of cosmic energy that can be accessed from His creation, rather than from the Creator being separate from what He has created.


Because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator – Romans 1:25


I am the LORD; that is my name;
my glory I give to no other,
nor my praise to carved idols. – Isaiah 42:8


For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me - Isaiah 46:9


New Age "Christianity

New Age “Christianity” will always promote a revival, or a spiritual shift and awakening that must take place before the next “Pentecost” that will evolve mankind to the next level.


For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand. – Matthew 24:24-25


Many are pursuing false signs and wonders wanting worldwide revival. Many fail to understand that this “revival” is solely the work of Satan, not Jesus Christ.

Don’t be deceived, you cannot take occult and pagan practices and use it as an opportunity to claim them back for Jesus. There is no such thing as gurus, spirit guides, contemplative prayer, mystical experiences, astral projection, etc… in the Kingdom of God.

New Age “Christianity” will empty your mind and fills you with demons that will change the perspective of God to a force of energy that can be captured and controlled as a means to transcend to a higher consciousness.

Be warned! Those who promote signs and wonders over Jesus Christ crucified and making disciples of the nations are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Jesus condemned those who sought after signs and wonders because they did not have faith. They failed to recognize that it is nobler to believe without demanding a miracle first. True faith is believing in God’s Word without the reliance of miraculous religious experiences.


Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” – John 20:29


The Occult Cloaked in Christian Terms

We are in the last days because the worst religious deception is here. Ancient Babylonian occult practices have been revived as people are worshiping the false Christ by believing the false prophets who market the doctrine of demons and perform false paranormal miracles.

Who you call pastor, prophet, teacher, etc… are cloaked names for guru, shaman, witch and warlock who are experienced channelers of demonic religious spirits among the people. Their purpose is to brainwash people to believe that psychic phenomenon and the paranormal are from the Holy Spirit.

Jesus Christ has already warned His people (ekklesia) that these things would happen. The counterfeit “Christian” would deny Jesus Christ even though they professed Him. The demonic invasion is right in front of our eyes, but too many are blinded and distracted with their feel good experiences and “faith” techniques to attain spiritual empowerment rather than weighing and testing them with the Word of God.

Through their vain imaginations, they believe that God responds to their positive thinking methods. They believe that thinking and speaking a certain way summons God to conform to their personal bidding. The fact is that this is sorcery and witchcraft that contacts the demonic world. The supposed health, wealth and spiritual empowerment does not come from God, but the deep things of Satan.

The false New Age religion promotes self-esteem, rather than being humble and obedient before God. The denial of self is imperative to enter into the Kingdom of God, but the New Age philosophy is self-seeking religion that knows nothing of taking up His cross and following Jesus Christ.

The New Age “gospel” is about personal success and having self-esteem. It is all about attaining your human potential and becoming a deity like God. The word sin and repentance are foreign concepts, but feel-good pop theology is what tickles the ears.

The "revivals" that are taking place in the “church” sphere are representative of the Antichrist. The glossy-eyed masses ignore sinful behaviors and the call to repentance for the New Age “gospel” that accepts a positive self-image rather than accepting our hopeless state without the grace of God.

The Antichrist Agenda

Counterfeit “Christianity” is here with an ecumenical agenda that will accommodate all false religions except those who truly follow Jesus Christ. The New Age delusional “peace” and “unity” are ramping up for the arrival of the Antichrist. The counterfeit gods, counterfeit angels, counterfeit miracles, counterfeit forms of godliness, counterfeit “good” works, counterfeit doctrines, counterfeit converts and counterfeit gospels are all here. All these things are deceptively masked in “Christianity” today.

Organized religions called “church” are in opposition to what Jesus Christ taught. Their “truth” has become so perverted that evil is called good, and good is called evil. Those who summon evil spirits call it the movement of the Holy Spirit. The doctrine of devils have complete control of “church.”


And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. – 2 Peter 2:2


It is impossible to receive God’s salvation through blatant heresy that denies the grace of Jesus Christ.

Many do not even know how to read Scripture for themselves. They have put their trust and faith into mere men who blind them with cotton candy theology. This creates people who do not accept the fundamentals of the true faith.


Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour. - 1 John 2:18


The modern “church” does not preach Christ crucified, but instead channel demons and teach from counterfeit visions, dreams, and prophecies that enable selfishness and hypocrisy to flourish. These practices out rightly deny the true Christian faith.

The “divine healing” that is happening in the modern “churches” are derived from occult sorcery and magic because these things are of no resemblance to the patterns documented in Scripture. None of these things are even mentioned by the Apostles. Their self-help psychology replaces the constant need to be washed in God’s Word with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

The images of the Antichrist are in the temples called “church” that are built with man’s hands. Jesus Christ said He would build His ekklesia and the gates of hell would not prevail against it. This means that “church” is an abomination built by Satan. The manifestation of podiums, altars and pulpits with man upon them have replaced the image of Jesus Christ. These men claim to have revelation from God and appears to be sent from God, but they are ministers of Satan. The power that manifests in them comes from an angel of light that performs paranormal signs and wonders. They sell their wares that contain ancient Babylonian secrets to keep the masses deluded in promoting the agenda of the Antichrist.

The signs of the age are here. Do not be deceived. Start reading the Word of God for yourself. You may be shocked to discover you have been lied to.



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Buildreps 2 years ago from Europe

Hi PlanksandNails, interesting article, that would become much more interesting if you would be more specific in your 'accusations'?

"Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them." Who did you expose in this article? You only leave me guessing.

Thanks in advance for answering my question.


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glynch1 2 years ago

I do not disagree with you that New Age practices have found their way into the lives of individual professing Christians. I believe that those leaders whom you describe in your hub are not true Christians, because they distort, twist, and misinterpret Scripture. They are not members of the Church.

Pardon me if I do not understand your perspective, but I do find a bit disconcerting your tendency to label all local churches as following the practices and beliefs of these Pentecostal charlatans. Many local churches, faithful to historic Christianity, still remain.


graceinus 2 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

Buildreps- Not long ago PlanksandNail wrote a very good article titled; Ekklesia, or Church, that will answer your question. If you take the time to read it you will understand the difference between the ekklesia (the called out one's) and what is now referred to as modern day "church". I recommend you read it. At the same time I have no doubt PandN will reply to your comment directly with a very good answer to your question.

PandN- Another great article you have here. Also, I want to thank you for your earlier Article on the EKKLESIA, which has open up more understanding of the "called out ones." I make it a point now to avoid using the words "true church". I always look forward to reading each new article from you.

God Bless


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Buildreps,

I believe most "churches" have been influenced by New Age. Some are outrightly practicing it, and others are more subtle. Usually, the books, music and leaders they promote expose their error.

The first picture in this article is a performance by Hillsong United that is part of the Emerging Church movement with New Age imagery in it. Here is the video if you are interested,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX1S87nVzck

Additionally, the iBethel Church in Redding California is a New Age conference center cloaked in "Christianity" that is influencing many into practicing their ideology just to name a few.

Thanks for your comment.


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lifegate 2 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

Hi PandN,

Ephesians 5:11 seems clear enough to me.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

glynch1,

What I call churches are buildings with man-made names on them that are built with man's hands. They are on every other street corner with salaried-to-serve hirelings running them. These church institutions have a man-made hierarchical system where specially qualified men with titles are mediators between God and the people who promote their particular man-made denominational brand.

In contrast, Jesus said He would build His ekklesia who are living stones that are not built with man's hands.

I used the word church (kuriakos) in its proper context as it is a corrupt word used to replace ekklesia in most Bibles. By tracing the etymology of the word "church," it is in opposition to the ekklesia who are not buildings where people go to worship at a particular time within a man-made template . Many assume church and ekklesia mean the same thing, but this is false. Church has nothing to do with God's people because man has replaced the headship of Jesus Christ for salaried clergy. Church is a word created by men and is a place where they have control over the people.

Those who are faithful to historical Christianity do not adhere to "Churchianity" that is based on the traditions of man. The churches of men are more susceptible to the New Age deception because they rely on men rather than the Holy Spirit to lead them to the truth.


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Buildreps 2 years ago from Europe

Hi PlanksandNails, thanks for the link you provide and your answer. I understand your worries about these kind of religions - they're obviously misleading people, that's something you feel in your guts. It takes quite some effort to prove it. Now I understand what you are trying to do. Good job!


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Graceinus,

Church is exactly what it means. It is a building where people falsely believe the Holy Spirit dwells. Why do you think they pray for the Holy Spirit to come within their religious buildings?

The ekklesia already know that they are the temples of the Holy Spirit no matter where they are. The Holy Spirit is already in God's people. Church is steeped in Old Testament traditions that Jesus Christ abolished when the veil was rent.

And behold, the curtain of the temple was torn in two, from top to bottom. - Matthew 27:51

I am glad that you found the ekklesia series useful.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Lifegate,

You are right, we need to expose these works of darkness for what they are.The problem today is that people believe that the unfruitful works of darkness is the Holy Spirit, or can be "reclaimed" for God. We need to continue stay planted in His Word that shines His light on the works of darkness.


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glynch1 2 years ago

You say correctly that the building is not the Church; the building is the place where the Church worships God and receives biblical instruction. ekklesia literally means "called-out" ones, and refers to believers. Besides being a spiritual organism, these believers should also join together organizationally. The NT clearly teaches that the people should choose leaders (elders and deacons) to serve them. The elders who rule well should receive wages for the time and effort they expend to feed the flock. This instruction is in the NT; it is not the teaching of man.


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Timlove 2 years ago from upstate New York

Another of these new age churches is National Community church in Washington DC. The pastor Mark Batterson wrote a book on prayer Called The Circle Maker, based on a legend in the talmud that embraces concepts of witchcraft. His book is being taught in Churches all over as a new way to pray. I think these kind of churches that are practicing new age and have these large mega churches are being funded by the Illuminate. They will be the religious leaders in the NWO.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

glynch1,

The ekklesia can worship God anywhere, anyplace and at anytime. The traditions of man say that you must go (organize) in a church building to worship and receive Biblical instruction from a salaried minister. I agree we can organize with others, but the ekklesia are not bound to named buildings, denominations and hierarchical structures. I don't disagree with having leaders among the ekklesia, but senior pastor is nowhere to be found in the NT.

You will find nowhere in the NT where any among the early ekklesia received salaries, but they were admonished by Paul to work with their own hands (vocation). The "wages" for feeding the flock were food, shelter and to cover expenses when someone was away from their vocation when traveling to preach the Gospel. There was never a salary. Salaried-to-serve is an oxymoron.

But we urge you, brothers, to do this more and more, and to aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to WORK WITH YOUR HANDS, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one. - 1 Thessalonians 4:10-12

Paul worked with his hands as a tent maker.

And remain in the same house, EATING and DRINKING what they provide, for the laborer deserves his WAGES. Do not go from house to house. – Luke 10 :7

Paul could have used his "rights" to receive "wages," but he relinquished them and said,

What then is my reward? That in my preaching I may present the gospel FREE of charge, so as not to make full use of my right in the gospel. - 1 Corinthians 9:18


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Timlove,

I am aware of this book and it boggles my mind how naïve many are in believing these false teachers. The Circle Maker is a perfect example of the deception that is running rampant in the churches of men. Thank-you for bringing the book to attention. Hopefully more will take heed to this verse,

And a number of those who had practiced magic arts brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. And they counted the value of them and found it came to fifty thousand pieces of silver. – Acts 19:19

The Circle Maker is one of many books that should be burned in the sight of all.


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glynch1 2 years ago

I agree that the term "senior pastor" is not in the NT, but the office of bishop (overseer) is. This elder functions as an under-shepherd (pastor-teacher) in a local congregation. Meeting as a larger group in a building is a logical convenience.

1 Thessalonians 4 is addressed to "regular" local church members, not to church elders/pastor-teachers; 1 Timothy 5:17-18 refer to financially supporting "elders who rule well." "The laborer is worthy of his wages."

You have admitted that Paul could have taken a wage, that it was his right to receive it from the people to whom he ministered spiritual things. You should not use Paul's apostolic example as though it were a universal norm for all pastor-teachers.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Glynch1,

Of course there is nothing wrong with meeting in a building, but I have already made distinctions of named buildings, hierarchy and denominations.

Just like "church" does not mean ekklesia, in the same manner "rule" in 1 Timothy 5:17 does not mean prostemi in the Greek. Prostemi is a reference to leadership, not authority. Spiritually mature leaders are charged by God to feed the flock by caring for them, but this does not require ruling with power and authority, but humility in serving. The result of many mistranslated words in many of our Bibles enable men in their desire to have authority over others.

We can all glean from Jesus' words,

And Jesus called them to him and said to them, “You know that those who are considered rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them. But it shall not be so among you. But whoever would be great among you must be your servant, and whoever would be first among you must be slave of all. For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” - Mark 10:42-45

1 Timothy 5:17-18 is most often used to justify a full time pastoral salary. This does not exist in the NT. I made the clarification of those who have the "right" to a wage. It applies to those who are travelling to minister the Gospel, not to those who are in a fixed location.

Every believer is called to be a full time minister/priest. We are all called to have a ministry as God gives us each individual gifts to accomplish His will.

The churches of men will only pay certain types of ministers.

Can you tell me why they pay “ministers” with certain gifts, but not the “regulars” with their gifts?

What do you mean by "regular" local church members?

Could you elaborate the "regular" standing of those in the body of Jesus Christ versus the church elders/pastor/ teacher?

If you are going to tell me not to use Paul's example for pastors/teachers, it would be helpful to explain why.


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glynch1 2 years ago

With spiritual leadership comes authority, not the "lording over" type of authority which we both despise, but the shepherding-type of ruling (guarding, feeding) which the Scripture enjoins.

Pastor-teachers usually work full-time, though some are part-time. They do far more than merely preach a sermon every week; many also spend time in counseling, administration, visitation, evangelism training, etc. As in any calling, the laborer must be compensated for his time and effort. (Paul received compensation from few churches because the people either had little means or they were lax in their support of him. For this reason, he had to take a "secular" job to earn his living.) It does not matter whether a person is a missionary traveling from place to place or someone regularly ministering in the Word and prayer in a fixed location; both should receive fair compensation for their work.

These spiritually mature men normally have theological training as well as the ability to teach--a specific qualification for bishop/elder/pastor. People fill different roles in the body of Christ; we are all equal spiritually, but some of us function in leadership roles.


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flpalermo 2 years ago

Any minister who accepts wages from his employer is serving that employer - not God. Ministers have the least faith of all believers because they depend on a salary to make a living, instead of putting their faith in the God they claim to believe.


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

Glynch1 -

Your position regarding "paid/salaried" pastors and "churches" make for a very in-depth debate. Debating this issue in a string of comments usually goes nowhere - leaving both parties sealed in their original positions. May I suggest you put aside everything you have been taught by man and search P&N for related articles and also read two posts I wrote that cover everything to do with "vocational" pastors and the "corporate" church.

The two studies are: "The Apostle Paul on Personal Rights and the Gospel" and "Church Wars: The Consequence of being out of God's Will"

You can find them both, along with other great posts and links at: http://honorgodsword.com/


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Glynch1,

In your comments you have pretty summed up that the people are to go to a named building called church within an organized denominational religion. You made distinctions between people, calling one group "regular" versus the senior CEO pastor/elder who are wear all the hats (counseling, administration, visitation, evangelism training, etc...) who are to "rule well." You have told me that I should not use Paul's example, but in Scripture he admonishes the ekklesia to follow his example as he did Jesus’. You have ignored the definition of wages that were defined by Jesus that was never intended to be a salary. Scripture does NOT support "salaried positions" for resident ministers.

Here are many Scripture verses that become crystal clear if you read them without seeing them through an authoritative denominational lens.

Provide neither gold nor silver nor copper in your money belts, nor bag for your journey, nor two tunics, nor sandals, nor staffs; for a WORKER IS WORTHY OF HIS FOOD. - Matthew 10:9-10

Even so the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should live from the gospel. - 1 Corinthians 9:14

We see here in the context of 1 Corinthians is referring to the command of the Lord given in Matthew 10.

Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine. For the Scripture says, "You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain," and, "The laborer is worthy of his wages." - 1 Timothy 5:17-18

Earlier in 1 Timothy, it speaks of honoring widows, but this honor does not mean a paid salary. In the same way in 1 Timothy 6:1, a slave honoring his master is not giving him a salary either.

But a HIRELING, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. The HIRELING flees because he is a HIRELING and does not care about the sheep. - John 10:12-14

The word minister is derived from the Greek word diakonos, meaning servant, but a hireling works for wages.

"No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. YOU CANNOT SERVE GOD AND MAMMON." - Luke 16:13

FREELY you have received, FREELY give. - Matthew 10:8

How can someone minister and be paid a salary qualify themselves as freely giving?

As I mentioned above, there is a distinction between laboring in the Word and those that work with their hands. As you mentioned, the work of a full time pastor is work, but it fails to comply with the not to being a burden on the ekklesia.

The salaried-to-serve born in the seminaries of men will always try to justify their paid positions.

Nevertheless we have NOY USED THIS RIGHT, but endure all things lest we hinder the gospel of Christ… But I HAVE USED NONE OF THESE THINGS, nor have I written these things that it should be done so to me; for it would be better for me to die than that anyone should make my boasting void. - 1 Corinthians 9:12-16

Paul was practicing what Jesus taught him, not what the seminaries of men taught him as a Pharisee.

What is my reward then? That when I preach the gospel, I may present the gospel of Christ without charge, that I may not ABUSE MY AUTHORITY in the gospel. – 1 Corinthians 9:18

For we are not, as so many, PEDDLING THE WORD OF GOD; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ. – 2 Corinthians 2:17

The “senior pastor” will require each church member to tithe for dishonest gain.

For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, WHOSE MOUTHS MUST BE STOPPED, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain. – Titus 1:10-11

The churches of men are in disobedience for supporting paid ministers. Scripture makes it clear what the wages of a minister are defined by Jesus in Luke 10:1-10. They are hospitality, which includes staying at a home, eating and drinking whatever they are given.

In parallel verses in Matthew 10: 8-10 it says, …Provide neither gold nor silver nor copper in your money belts, nor bag for your journey, nor two tunics, nor sandals, nor staffs; FOR A WORKER IS WORTHY OF HIS FOOD.

Food is a wage, but it is NOT a salary.

Matthew 10 is the Law of First mention, which determines how wages are defined. Other Scripture verses clearly support this.

Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities — Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward, and Susanna, AND MANY OTHERS WHO PROVIDED FOR HIM FROM THEIR SUBSTANCE. – Luke 8:1-3

This is hospitality.

The context of the Apostles who had a right to receive a wage does not relate to a local preacher/ minister.

Matthew 10 and Luke 10 clearly refer to all ministers who were sent out by Jesus to preach the Gospel.

And how shall they preach UNLESS THEY ARE SENT? – Romans 10:15

And AS YOU GO, PREACH, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. FREELY YOU HAVE RECEIVED, FREELY GIVE. – Matthew 10:7-8

Did I commit sin in humbling myself that you might be exalted, because I preached the gospel of God to you free of charge? I ROBBED OTHER CHURCHES, TAKING WAGES.

The Greek word opsonian translated to wages implies support and meals. This means that hospitality and provisions are the acceptable wages for Apostles, or missionaries while they were travelling to minister the Gospel. That is why Paul and Peter walked around saying, “Silver and gold have I none.” They were never got paid a monetary salary.

The Lord commanded (Matt 10:8) that itinerant apostles were entitled to receive hospitality if necessary. It does not mean, or suggest a career, or salary because it is limited to food.

Making a living from the Gospel implies support, not a requirement to be paid a salary. All the churches of men hinder the Gospel and put oppression upon the masses by using Scripture out of context to justify being a hireling.

Even so THE LORD HAS COMMANDED that those who preach the gospel should live from the gospel. – 1 Corinthians 9:14

By referencing the place where the Lord commanded, which is in Matthew 10 and Luke 10, it is clear that living from the Gospel was hospitality, not a permanent salary.

Church organizations take people’s hard earned money in support of the visions of the pastor and his kingdom within the building. Churches are dens of merchandise with professional preachers pontificating upon their pulpits to mute pew warmers.

And He said to those who sold doves, "TAKE THESE THINGS AWAY! DO NOT MAKE MY FATHER'S HOUSE A HOUSE OF MERCHANDISE!" – John 2:16

Churches of men are bondage. Even the world knows that all they want is your money. Salaried minister serve mammon. The Gospel is being sold as a product or merchandise.

Salvation is a free gift. I will not pay a pastor for it.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Flpalermo,

I agree. The men who are part of the kingdoms of men serve, employ and worship men for a price. In the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ already has paid the price; therefore, we can do all things through Him without mere men getting in the way.

God Bless.


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

P&N - Were you aware that the "Related Hubs" feed embedded at the end of your post has a lot of pro-Mormon propaganda, along with other Hub posts that are at odds with your beliefs? If this is something you can "turn off" I would highly recommend it. No need to promote stuff like that - even if it's on the Hub platform.

In Him

Neil


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Neil,

I appreciate the concern. Unfortunately, the Related Hubs feed is not a feature that can be turned on or off. It is based on tags and topics within the Hubpages platform that automatically suggests "similar" articles based on certain criteria.


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

P&N -

Regarding Glynch1 and his avid defense of having a paid hierarchy and a corporate church.

Upton Sinclair said:

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”


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glynch1 2 years ago

Neil,

I do not advocate a "paid hierarchy"; I am following the NT order for local churches. The congregation chooses a plurality of elders who lead and serve them. They compensate those who teach them spiritual truth from God's word.


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flpalermo 2 years ago

I wish I could see that in the Bible.


graceinus 2 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

glynch1- For WHAT exactly are they compensating for??????


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glynch1 2 years ago

flpalermo, do a Bible study on the words "elder" and "bishop (overseer)" in the NT. Try Philippians 1:1; 1 Timothy 3; 1 Timothy 5:17, and Titus 1 to start.

Graceinus, most full-time pastor-teachers spend many hours preparing sermons, doing visitation, counseling, praying for church members, doing administrative work, etc. Scripture teaches that the people who preach the gospel should live from the gospel (1 Cor. 9:14). Earlier in that chapter, Paul wrote: "If we have sown spiritual things for you, is it a great thing that we reap your material things?" In fact, the whole chapter argues for the right of the "minister" to receive compensation from those to whom he ministers.


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flpalermo 2 years ago

Absolutely right glynch1. Freely given contributions as every man purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity, for God loves a cheerful giver. It is more blessed to give than to receive, but our personal rights end where the Gospel of Christ begins. Freely you have received, freely give.


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

glynch1 - With all do respect brother, you are absolutely wrong in your assessment of 1 Corinthians 9. You like to use the same "proof" texts that every other pro-vocational supporter use to argue their position, but you ignore, or somehow completely overlook, the true context of the passage, along with Paul's ensuing argument regarding compensation for preaching the gospel.

Let's look at Paul's statements in 1 Corinthians that seems to imply that some have a personal "right" to "reap material things" and "get their living" from preaching the gospel?

First of all, we must define who Paul was writing about. If Paul is referring to anyone who "proclaims the gospel," of course, that would mean that he was referring to every believer who ever shares the gospel. And if that's the case, all of them "should get their living by the gospel." Obviously, that's not what Paul meant. If, on the other hand, Paul is referring to a "group" who "proclaim the gospel," which specific group would he be referring to? In this case, there are only a couple of choices: Either Paul specifies the group in the context of this passage, or we the reader get to choose the group. And since the context of Paul’s own words identify the specific group in the beginning of 1 Corinthians 9, his choice is the only logical answer. Paul clearly tells us that he is speaking specifically about people who travel to proclaim the gospel, i.e., apostles and itinerant preachers. The "we" Paul refers to in the passage clearly does NOT include "non-itinerant" ministries such as local elders, pastors, or teachers. In fact, there is no mention in the context of 1 Corinthians 9 of local elders, pastors or teachers. More importantly, this passage also indicates that the "we" (Paul, other Apostles and itinerant preachers) "did NOT use the right" to receive material or financial rewards for preaching the gospel - specifically because it would cause a "hindrance to the gospel of Christ."

"If WE sowed spiritual things in you, is it too much if WE reap material things from you? If others share the right over you, do WE not more? Nevertheless, WE did NOT use this right, but WE endure all things so that WE will cause NO hindrance to the gospel of Christ." 1 Corinthians 9:11-12

Have you considered Paul's use of the pronoun "we" five times in this passage, and just "who" were the "we" Paul was referring to?

Paul clearly states that "WE" (All the Apostles - vs 5: "the rest of the apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas") did NOT USE THESE RIGHTS and that "HE" DID NOT USE THEM EITHER.

So where do you get the idea that ONLY Paul chose NOT to receive "wages" to preach the gospel?

You wrongly assign the context of 1 Corinthians 9 as Paul's argument for paying pastors a salary, but the context is set clearly in verse 3. Paul is defending himself as an "Apostle," not making an argument to be paid.

Paul contextualizes his statements about the "rights" of Apostles in verse 15 saying: "But I have used none of these things. And I am not writing these things so that it will be done so in my case; for it would be better for me to die than have any man make my boast an empty one."

If you have the time, you really need to read my piece, "The Apostle Paul on Personal Rights and the Gospel" at: http://honorgodsword.com/

Seek the truth in this matter with an open mind - guided by the Holy Spirit and NOt the precepts of man. It only took me 30 years to finally get it!


graceinus 2 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

glynch1- What is described in Matthew 19.5-15 is TRUE ministry spoken by Jesus. I hope you will take the time to really study it and hopefully understand it in the context it was meant. Because you have a strong knack for taking verses out of context.

Have a good day.


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glynch1 2 years ago

What does Matthew 19:5-15 have to do with the topic we were discussing? And why do you continue to attack me rather than deal with the verses I leave with you? If anyone does not study and does not interpret Scripture in context, it is you. I am a theologically-trained pastor-teacher who has been studying Scripture for almost forty years. Your comments are truly offensive, and you should be ashamed of yourself if you name the name of Christ.


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glynch1 2 years ago

Neil,

I believe the Corinthians passage is stating a general principle. If you preach the gospel as your life's work, you ought to receive support from the people to whom you minister. The priests and Levites--certainly not itinerant missionaries--received support from the people who sacrificed to God. In like manner, those who perform spiritual services for the people should receive remuneration of some sort from those who hear them.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

The salaried-to-serve sure like to jump around and use Scripture verses to justify receiving a salary.

The Levite priests serving in the temple were allowed to eat the meat and the grain that was brought as sacrifices. In 1 Chronicles 23-24 they were divided into divisions that served two weeks out of the year, but for the remainder of the year they worked with their own hands for the needs of their families on the land they were given (Numbers 35) with herds and crops. The Levites had an allotted time to serve in the Tabernacle/ Temple for two weeks, then dwelled and worked in the cities that were scattered around Israel.

The Levites did not make a living from the tithes and offerings, but had their own vocation and worked as a herdsmen, potter, textiles, etc… who worked with their hands to make a living.

By the time Jesus Christ walked on the earth the priests lived and worked in the Temple and acquired real estate to grow the temple grains. They became wealthy by turning the temple into a place of trade by selling animals without blemish. It was clear what Jesus thought and was angered by their behaviors because they were leveraging the Law to make money.

In the temple he found those who were selling oxen and sheep and pigeons, and the money-changers sitting there. And making a whip of cords, he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables. – John 2:14-15

This is strikingly familiar within the churches of men who believe that they are entitled to their enrichment on the backs of the people.

We can all drive the nail in the coffin in defense of the salaried teacher/elder/pastor by what Jesus Christ did on the cross. All believer are now priests and Jesus Christ is the only High Priest.

You yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood – 1 Peter 2:5

There is no separate classes of people (priestly vs. non-priestly); therefore, hirelings cannot look to the Levitical priesthood to justify salaried positions.


graceinus 2 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

glynch1- That is the whole problem, you obtained our theology degree by interpret the bible under your own efforts without the Holy Spirit guiding you. The mere fact you have a degree proves my point. You're so proud of it, because you think you earned your knowledge. You don't see it as a gift through the Holy Spirit who guides understanding, not interpretation. So now you have a theology degree hanging on your wall to be proud of. And now you throw it in my face to show me how better you think you are as a "trained Pastor". Well MR. ghynch1, for me, I did not EARN my understanding of God's word during my many years of indepth study of God's word, it was a GIFT from the Holy Spirit and I don't need a degree on my wall to show for it. If I were you I would take the degree and set fire to it, then start my studies all over again and this time let the Holy Spirit be the guide.


graceinus 2 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

PandN- As you maybe well aware I am very blunt and direct. I make no apologzies if some are offened by it. My intent is to wake people up.

God bless.


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flpalermo 2 years ago

PlankNnails: You are absolutely right about the Levites having their own profession after they served their COURSE at the temple at their allotted time of the year. Luke was a physician and Matthew worked for the Internal Revenue Service of the Roman Empire. They did not live off the peoples back, but served and were provided their needs for the period they served at the Temple.


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glynch1 2 years ago

Graceinus,

I do not need to awakened, but you need to learn some courtesy and respect. In addition, you ought to listen to John MacArthur's series called Strange Fire. Your super-spirituality (I am afraid) is off base.


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

glynch1 -

My last comment to you addressed your previous comment about 1 Corinthians 9. I was very thorough and specific in my response, as I believe you deserve, as a brother willing to debate the scripture in search of the truth. However, it’s clear by your comment about what I wrote that you don’t seem to want to look at the scriptural evidence that you yourself use to support your position (belief) in this matter.

The flaw in your defense is that it hinges on what “you” believe, as opposed to what the scriptures clearly teach.

My hope and prayer is that this encounter leads you to search beyond what “man” has taught you, and that you begin to look only to the Holy Spirit for guidance in your study of the scripture; not just in this matter, but in ALL things.

In 1 John 2:26-27, the Apostle John wrote the following to the church “at large” regarding his concern for following what “men” teach:

“As for you, see that what you have heard FROM THE BEGENNING remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. And this is what He promised us—eternal life. I am writing these things to you about THOSE [False or misguided teachers] who are trying to LEAD YOU ASTRAY. As for you, the ANOINTING [Holy Spirit] you received from Him remains in you, and YOU DO NOT NEED ANYONE TO TEACH YOU. But as HIS ANOINTING TEACHES YOU ALL THINGS and as THAT ANNOINTING IS REAL not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, REMAIN IN HIM.”

Blessings in Christ


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flpalermo 2 years ago

Good point Neil.


graceinus 2 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

ghynch1- "Those who expect respect are indeed prideful"

K.C.


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glynch1 2 years ago

I believe you all have a mistaken understanding of the "anointing." If you are interested, please listen to John MacArthur's teaching on this subject. You will not be hearing from me again.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Glynch1,

You have exposed yourself for who you are and the people you endorse.

No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.” - Luke 16:13

John MacArthur is also a salaried "minister" who turns the "gospel" into a product of commerce.

http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/John-Macarthur-sal...


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

glynch1 -

While disappointing, your stating that we will not be hearing from you again actually speaks volumes.

Your aversion to debate the issue using scripture tells me that you're not interested in the truth in this matter. You have chosen instead to follow the doctrines of man.

If you're still reading, but choose not to respond, then read the following quote by the authors of "Pagan Christianity" - and pick up the book.

THE PASTOR:

"He is the fundamental figure of the Protestant faith. So prevailing is the pastor in the minds of most Christians that he is often better known, more highly praised, and more heavily relied upon than Jesus Christ Himself! The un-scriptural clergy/laity distinction has done untold harm to the body of Christ. It has divided the believing community into first and second-class Christians… and perpetuates an awful falsehood – namely, that some Christians are more privileged than others to serve the Lord… We believe the pastoral office has stolen your right to function as a full member of Christ’s body. It has distorted the reality of the body, making the pastor a giant mouth and transforming you into a tiny ear. It has rendered you a mute spectator who is proficient at taking sermon notes and passing an offering plate. The contemporary pastor is the most unquestioned fixture in twenty-first-century Christianity. Yet not a strand of Scripture supports the existence of this office. "

~ Frank Viola and George Barna in ‘Pagan Christianity?’


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Asa2141 2 years ago from Boise

Plank&Nails - Maybe I don't know much, but I have a problem with this article… You make really broad, sweeping statements such as:

"Who you call pastor, prophet, teacher, etc… are cloaked names for guru, shaman, witch and warlock who are experienced channelers of demonic religious spirits among the people. Their purpose is to brainwash people to believe that psychic phenomenon and the paranormal are from the Holy Spirit."

This is simply not true. I know people who are or want to be pastors who think they are doing "God's will" by becoming one. They are not trying to brainwash people. I believe they are misguided because of what I've read (and don't find) in the Bible about pastors, but they are not in it for wrong reasons.

On the same token, I do know pastors who are brainwashing people. So there are good pastors and bad pastors (so to speak).

Just a suggestion from a fellow Christian and by no means a professional writer, I would try riddling us with specific examples to prove your point. It would make your arguments a lot clearer and persuasive. In this article you sound kind of fanatical. Kind of a "everyone in church hierarchy is trying to brainwash you!!" article. Instead of a "Watch out for these kinds of evil people in so-called church" article. Just a suggestion.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Asa2141,

Thanks for your comments. Although it may seem I made sweeping statements, I believe that in the context of this article, I made some distinctions when I stated,

("The common approach to these practices are the overemphasizing of signs and wonders through the promotion of contemplative prayer, meditation, yoga, trances, orbs, clairvoyance, impartation, empowerment, etc… These so called “truths” come from extracting them from New Age ideology and using them for “Jesus Christ.”)

This is a fact, and there are pastors, prophets, teachers, etc.., or whatever people want to call them who are promoting and entertaining these type of New Age worship practices. This is a manifestation of the doctrine of demons and contrary to the Word of God.

I agree with you that there are those among the ekklesia who are using the gifting God has given them to serve others, but a hireling pastor in the church system is in contrast to the pastor(s) who are among the ekklesia.

I appreciate that you would like more examples, but the purpose of most of my articles is to make the reader aware and hope there is enough evidence in it to pursue additional confirmations for themselves. Did you watch the video at the end of the article? It gets into more details and specifics.

(" In this article you sound kind of fanatical. Kind of a "everyone in church hierarchy is trying to brainwash you!!" article.")

I truly believe the church system that is in place is the counterfeit of the ekklesia. I know it may sound fanatical, but after weighing and testing it with Scripture for many years I am at peace with abandoning the man-made system for what Jesus Christ has built.

Here are several other articles that I have written that get into more detail that may prove my points in this article,

http://hub.me/aepsi

http://hub.me/aez63

http://hub.me/aeJCT

http://hub.me/adQNA

http://hub.me/aaMph

Thanks again for your thoughts. God Bless.


SimplyI 2 years ago from Ontario, Canada

Glynch1,

You are talking about J. Macarthur? Heavens, he is not even saved as he plainly testifies in HIS OWN WORDS on HIS OWN WEBSITE. Open your eyes, search The Lord and be graciously saved by his blood alone. Then you will serve him alone in the power of the Holy Spirit alone for his glory alone. Not for filthy lucre! For now you are a proud CEO of a so called jesus franchise. Woe! Repent, I beg you.


Liberty 2 years ago

Glynch1,

As having just come from a Macarthuresque church I can assure you that the Gospel according to Macarthur is not the same one as first delivered to the saints.

The evidence of this is in the fruit. (Matt 7).

You wrote,

"I believe the Corinthians passage is stating a general principle. If you preach the gospel as your life's work, you ought to receive support from the people to whom you minister."

- I'm a stay at home mother with two children and I spend as much time as possible seeking to preach the gospel to the lost. The coffee lady, the supermarket check out lady, the librarian.

Does your "general principal" apply to me also? Because 1 Corinthians is referring only to Apostles as far as I can tell by reading it in context.

I am a full time minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Sure... I haven't got a piece of paper from a seminary to prove it. But neither did the Apostles.

You then wrote,

"The priests and Levites--certainly not itinerant missionaries--received support from the people who sacrificed to God. In like manner, those who perform spiritual services for the people should receive remuneration of some sort from those who hear them."

Really?

Those who perform spiritual services for the people should receive remuneration of some sort from those who hear them?

Are not all Christians responsible for "performing spiritual services" (ie: SERVING their brethren)?

or are you referring to only a select few "super saints" who've been to bible colleges of men?

Question:

Have you read the end of 1 Corinthians 9 where Paul refuses to accept help so as to not hinder the Gospel?

I find it interesting that paid pastors always seem to miss this point, being far too busy citing their rights to receive.

Question for you:

Would you serve your brothers and sisters in Christ without being paid to do it?

That's what separates the true lowercase p pastors with the hirelings.

God help us all.

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