Of Muslims and professed Christianity [Christendom]

Truth, what is, truth?

Both share the fallacy of Soul Immortality


The Muslims are CORRECT in some things, but are NOT, in a few things, some, FUNDAMENTAL, for LIFE in the NEW ORDER.


Let us START with what Islam has RIGHT.


1. Jesus, was/ is NOT Almighty God.


2. The Trinity doctrine is FALSE.


3. Jehovah is NOT the CORRECT rendering of the Hebrew

YHWH into English.

The omission of God’s personal name, represented by the Tetragrammaton YHWH, has led to much confusion however. The Divine Name, has been replaced by Lord or God, in MOST translations. It should be NOTED that the correct renderings of Jesus, Jeremiah, etc., are also disputable, but these names have been accepted.


4. The Bible has been "contaminated" by man.


5. Christmas and Easter are NOT Christian celebrations, but

have been INFLUENCED by paganism [largely Roman and Greek pagan holidays so-called "Christianized".


MISCONCEPTIONS.


1. Muslims, like Christendom, believe in an immortal soul

a concept rooted in Babylonish teachings with Greek Platonism and neo-Platonism. Muslims also, like Christendom,

believe in eternal torment, also a pagan idea.


2. Although some Bibles have major ERRORS, these are mainly the King James Version [KJV] and Gideon versions. The KJV can be traced to the Textus Receptus which was originally translated by Erasmus [a noted Greek scholar].


No other ANCIENT book, is so well attested as the Bible, in that, there are about 6,000 ancient manuscripts in ancient Hebrew, [translated traditionally as Old Testament] and over 5,000 manuscripts in Koine Greek, a few in Syriac, and many in Latin etc. The Greek manuscripts have been translated traditionally as the "New Testament".


Major ERRORS have been traced to a handful of LATE i.e. 13th to 16th century Greek and Latin manuscript copies. The LARGE pools of other manuscripts have been proven to be ACCURATE. Also, the DEAD SEA SCROLLS dated first or second century B.C.E. when examined and compared to modern Bible translations, have CONFIRMED the ACCURACY of the Hebrew texts, e.g. Isaiah.


Contamination of Scriptures confirms Satan’s on-going effort to DECEIVE, and indeed has been predicted in scripture itself. The major errors occur at 1 John 5:7 [so-called Comma Johanneum], Revelation 1:11 and 1 Timothy 3:16.


Muslims claim that Jesus the Christ was not killed.



Matthew 12:38-42

J.B. Phillips New Testament (PHILLIPS)

38-42 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees said, “Master, we want to see a sign from you.” But Jesus told them, “It is an evil and unfaithful generation that craves for a sign, and no sign will be given to it—except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For just as Jonah was in the belly of that great sea-monster for three days and nights, so will the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth for three days and nights. The men of Nineveh will stand up with this generation in the judgment and will condemn it. For they did repent when Jonah preached to them, and you have more than Jonah’s preaching with you now! The Queen of the South will stand up in the judgment with this generation and will condemn it. For she came from the ends of the earth to listen to the wisdom of Solomon, and you have more than the wisdom of Solomon with you now!

Matthew 16:21

J.B. Phillips New Testament (PHILLIPS)

21 From that time onwards Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he would have to go to Jerusalem, and endure much suffering from the elders, chief priests and scribes, and finally be killed; and be raised to life again on the third day.


Matthew 11:12-15

J.B. Phillips New Testament (PHILLIPS)

12-15 “From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of Heaven has been taken by storm and eager men are forcing their way into it. For the Law and all the prophets foretold it till the time of John and—if you can believe it—John himself is the ‘Elijah’ who must come before the kingdom. The man who has ears to hear must use them.

Matthew 17:11-12

J.B. Phillips New Testament (PHILLIPS)

11-12 “Yes, Elijah does come first,” replied Jesus, “and begins the world’s reformation. But I tell you that Elijah has come already and men did not recognise him. They did what they liked with him, and they will do the same to the Son of Man.”



Comparisons


A careful comparison of various translations may alarm some, but the very

Scriptures themselves, predicted that many false teachings would appear.

In the attempt of some to support ideas that were clearly NOT SUPPORTED by Scriptures some SERIOUS errors have entered in some translations.

So then 1 John 5:7 has an addition [Comma Johaneum] which is indisputably fallacious.

Revelation 1:11 has an addition which entitles such individual[s] to the plagues recorded in that Book.

1 Timothy 3:16 has inserted God, where Christ was intended.

Candor

It is quite evident by those of us who honestly study its contents that the

Bible [in the original tongues] was written with a great deal of candor. So

events and comments were recorded as they occurred. In the event that a comment was made by someone, however erroneous, it was recorded just as it occurred. Therefore the Jews sought to kill Jesus because [in their minds] He made himself equal to God by saying He is the Son of God.

CAREFUL SEARCH

It is in our best interest then in order to obtain truth, to CONSIDER EVERYTHING PERTAINING TO A PARTICULAR ISSUE.

Why do some get sidetracked on a particular Bible passage, when there are so many others where the TRUE MEANING IS CLEAR AND WITHOUT ANY DISPUTES AS REGARDS THE CORRECTNESS OF RENDERINGS?



2 Corinthians 4:3-4 (New International Version)

3And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 (New International Version)

9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

1 Timothy 4:1 (New International Version)

1 Timothy 4

Instructions to Timothy

1The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

2 Peter 2:1-3 (New International Version)

2 Peter 2

False Teachers and Their Destruction

1But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

Spiritual Israel, and the NEW meaning of a "Jew". Revelation 3:9


The Jews are supposedly the descendants of Abraham with whom God Almighty, Yahweh/ Jehovah, made a covenant.
Subsequently, another covenant was made with the nation Israel, Moses being the mediator, of this covenant.
Eventually a New Covenant was convened, Jesus Christ, the Prophet like Moses [Deu 18:18, 19; Acts 3:22, 23; John 12:49], being the Mediator of this covenant [Jeremiah 31:31-34; Hebrews 6:20; 8;1, 2; Hebrews 8: 6-13; 10: 14 - 36].
When the Jews rejected the Messiah, however, this New Covenant, was convened NOT with literal or physical Israel, BUT, with spiritual Israel.
According to the Holy Scriptures, the Bible, we read at Matthew 21: 43: This is why I say to you, The Kingdom of God will be TAKEN from you and be GIVEN to a NATION producing its FRUITS; and at Matthew 23: 38 we read: Look! Your house is abandoned to you. Also, at Acts 15: 14 - 20: Symeon has related thoroughly how God for the FIRST time turned his attention to the NATIONS to take out of THEM a PEOPLE for his NAME. And with this the words of PROPHETS agree, just as it is WRITTEN, 'After these things I shall RETURN and rebuild the booth of David that is fallen down; and I shall REBUILD its ruins and erect it again, in order that those who REMAIN of the men may EARNESTLY seek Jehovah, together with people of ALL the NATIONS, people who are CALLED by my NAME, says Jehovah, who is doing these things, known from of old.
Please COMPARE Amos 9: 11, 12.

Acts 10: 34, 35 reads: At this Peter opened his mouth and said: "For a certainty I perceive that God
is NOT PARTIAL, but in EVERY NATION the man that fears him and works RIGHTEOUSNESS is ACCEPTABLE to him. Please READ the FULL account.


Who then, is a Jew?

Jeremiah 4.
4 Get yourselves circumcised to Jehovah, and take away the foreskins of YOUR hearts, YOU men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem; that my rage may not go forth just like a fire, and it certainly burn with no one to do the extinguishing, on account of the badness of YOUR dealings.”

Romans 2
28 For he is not a Jew who is one on the outside, nor is circumcision that which is on the outside upon the flesh. 29 But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and [his] circumcision is that of the heart by spirit, and not by a written code. The praise of that one comes, not from men, but from God.

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sarmack 6 years ago from Washington

Really, I don't see the basis for what you are stating, but I do agree that it is better to translate the Scriptures for yourself!


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Jaggedfrost 6 years ago

It doesn't do any good to make one's argument by tearing at other's point of view. Trying to compare Christian scriptural purity to Islamic Scriptural purity would be hard to do as well. It may help people see your point of view which I am all for doing if you create a thesis of sorts and then gear all of your thoughts towards proving that thesis. If you want your title can contain the active ingredient that will help this hub shimmer.


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lynnibug 6 years ago from Florida

Not sure I get your point, but then I have never been comfortable with the denominations that separate us.

True "Christians" are those who follow Christ, doing what He taught and what He did. There is much difference between the religion of Jesus and the many religions about Him, but I do not doubt that He was and is the promised Messiah.

You may want to get a copy of the AENT if you do not have one. I can see that you have studied your new testament long and hard. The Aramaic to English New Testament is a direct translation from the language these texts were originally written.

You can learn more about this translation at http://ww7.aitsafe.com/go.htm?go=www.aent.org&afid...

I applaud anyone who continues to seek truth, even if I do not agree with them.


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True Truthseeker 6 years ago Author

John 4: 23 reads: Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the TRUE WORSHIPERS will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for SUCHLIKE ones to worship him.

The Scripture above suggests that at the time of Jesus’ ministry, the established religion back then [Pharisees and Sadducees] were REALLY NOT worshiping God Almighty with SPIRIT and TRUTH. Indeed, both sects tried in vain to trap Jesus Christ with questions; on responding Jesus not only EXPOSED their FAULTY way of thinking but CONDEMNED them as hypocrites. Matthew 15: 4 – 9; John 8: 42 – 45.

Daniel 12: 9, 10 read: And he went on to say: “Go, Daniel, because the words are made secret and sealed up until the TIME of the END. Many will

CLEANSE themselves and will WHITEN themselves and will be REFINED. And the wicked ones will certainly act wickedly, and NO wicked one at all will UNDERSTAND; but the ones having insight will understand.

From the above Scriptures, the fact that a CLEANSING and WHITENING is mentioned suggests that there was an APOSTASY, or CONTAMINATION of true worship. This is supported by many Scriptures example; 1 Timothy 4: 1; 2 Timothy 4: 1-4; 2 Peter 2: 1- 3; 2 John 7 – 11;

2 Thessalonians 2: 1- 12.

1 Timothy 4: 1 reads: However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and TEACHINGS of DEMONS.

2 Peter 2: 1 – 3 read: However, there also came to be FALSE PROPHETS among the people, as there will also be FALSE TEACHERS among you. These very ones will QUIETLY bring in DESTRUCTIVE SECTS and will disown even the OWNER that bought them, bringing speedy destruction among themselves. Furthermore, MANY will FOLLOW their acts of LOOSE CONDUCT, and account of these the way of the truth will be spoken of abusively. Also, with covetousness they will EXPLOIT you with COUNTERFEIT WORDS. But as for them, the judgment from of old is not moving slowly, and the destruction of them is not slumbering.

So, then, there can be NO DOUBT that a FALL-AWAY from TRUE worship was PREDICTED and IS evident TODAY.

True Christians

Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers, will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him. John 4:23

If you ask anything in my name, I will do it, "If you love me, you will observe my commandments; and I will request the Father and he will give you another helper to be with you forever, the spirit of the TRUTH, which the world cannot receive, because it neither beholds it nor knows it..... John 14:14-17.

He that has my commandments and observes them, that one is he who loves me. In turn he that loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and plainly show myself to him." John 14: 21.

Most truly I say to you. He that exercises faith in me, that one also will do the works that I do; ...... John 14:12.

They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.

Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth. Just as you sent me forth into the world, I also sent them forth into the world. And I am sanctifying myself in their behalf, that they also may be sanctified by means of truth. "I make request, not these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word; in order that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me, and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, in order that the world may believe that you sent me forth. John 17:16-21.

Righteous Father, the world has, indeed not come to know you, but I have come to know you, and these have come to know that you sent me forth. And I have made your NAME known to them and will make it known in order that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them." John 17:25-26.

As for the believers from among the nations, we have sent out, rendering our decision that they should keep themselves from what is sacrificed to idols as well as from blood and what is strangled and from fornication. Acts 21:25.

see also Acts 15: 28, 29.

.......... the fruitageof the spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control. Against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23.

But we think it proper to hear from you what your thoughts are, for truly as regards this sect it is known to us that everywhere it is spoken against. Acts 28:22

If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, on this account the world hates you. John 15:19. see also 1 Peter 4:4.

Subject yourselves, therefore to God, but oppose the Devil, and he will flee from you. Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you indecisive ones. James 4:7-8.


Nikko 6 years ago

Very well spoking.I see the pointvery clearly.

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