Organized Religion versus Personal Beliefs

Poll - Are you part of an organized religion

Are you part of an organized religion? (this includes a small organization like a coven)

  • Yes
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This was originally in response to another hub. I decided it is a good topic so I am keeping this post in tact as I responded on the other hub.

The quoted response follows;

"Define religion.

All religion offers answers to important spiritual questions. They offer some way to define that which we cannot explain. Along that vein, they offer a view of what happens after death.

If you mean an organized group practicing a religion; That tends to mean that one person, or group of people tells the rest what a "scripture" means and expect the remaining people in the group to follow along and usually pay a tithe. While the demands of "following the flock" differ, the basis is the same. Follow what we tell you to do because we say it is right. Now, they say that there is room to interperate but most of the time interperatation that does not dirrectly follow the views of the rest of the congregation (rather, the heads of the congregation) is "frowned upon" or considered falacy. This then means the "offending party" is "taught what is right" depending on religion this may mean that the person is told to repent, it may mean they are chastized, whatever the "lesson" it usually comes with great feelings of guilt. This causes the person questioning their views to want to just "follow the flock."

If you are talking merely a religious belief structure; This basically means what they have in common is as stated previously about answering questions. Plus it usually means exploring what best fits your personal views and practicing accordingly.

Personal experience and opinion prefers the latter. "

All of this having been stated, I'd like to see responses. Any opinions are welcome. Please remember to be respectful. This is a touchy subject and we don't want to be deleted.

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kosta 18 months ago

The World May Never Know


Maarten van Dijk 6 years ago

The Bible analysis ‘The Bible versus organised religion’ follows the path of God’s original intention with mankind as embedded in the Scriptures, from the creation of Adam till the expiration of the mosaic covenant. It answers many vital questions. Such as how, when and why the phenomenon of organised religion, in the course of ages, could succeed trans- forming the view on the original plan of God, as is written in the Bible, by darkening the real meaning of the prophetic typology of the contents and laying the foundation of the religious systems of Judaism, Christendom and Islam. Those organised networks of collec- tivism that subjected mankind to man-made laws, regulations, confessions of faith, cere- monies, celebrations and the authority of religious leadership, have been hold against the light of the Bible. The chronological concept of the analysis however makes it possible to get an overall picture of the harmonious context of the Scriptures from Genesis to Reve-lation. It shows the truth of God’s plan without any use of views and philosophical opini-ons of the spiritual leadership of organised religion. This truth concerns the question about the design of the creation of the human species. Was the creation of man, as a species in a body of flesh and blood with the ability to live to all eternity on earth, a lie and a failure of God? Had the design a shortcoming for living up to the required standard for that goal or was it a failure of the first man himself, by a deliberate wrong moral choice? The logic sequence of subjects in the analysis makes it easy to acquire a correct understanding of this issue of universal importance for all men. The manner God will justify and remove the blot on his name, as creator of man, is the main issue of the context of the law and all prophetic books. Respecting the given chronological table of God’s Sabbath or day of rest, the promised Messianic world order will come to power at the appointed time, for ending the global system of things and for removing the already condemned phenomenon of organised religion and every remembrance of it to all eternity. The analysis is by means of the cross-references, within the all-enfolding context of the Scriptures, a great help to understand the value of it as an unaltered and reliable guide to put confidence in. The Bible encourages a man, who is awaiting the thousand year Messianic kingdom, to treat fellow men the way he wishes to be treated by them and to rejoice in the expectation of everlasting life on earth. Despite the disgusting things, the injustice, the suffering and the terrible bloodshed on earth, from the beginning up to now. It gives furthermore the advice to the individual man to practise faith in the promise of God and to avoid the misleading concept of religious collectivism, because the Messianic world order will not be realised by a hand of man.


Maarten van Dijk 6 years ago

The author's URL presents (basecally in Dutch and for general world wide use in English[90 pages]the Bible analysis THE BIBLE VERSUS ORGANISED RELIGION. The author, who is not connected to any religious groupe or organisation, presents this work to the world at no costs. He got it for nothing and give for nothing. He welcomes questions, comments and suggestions about his work.

http://home.kpn.nl/3118lm99


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kwade tweeling 7 years ago from USA Author

James, that was very well put. Thank you!

Yes I was refering to Christianity as well as all other organized religions, this includes any cult, or coven of pagans as well.

You provide a very important viewpoint regarding people being experts in their field. It is important to remember that there are those who devote themselves to religious study and spend their entire lives learning.

I'd also like to point out that there are many religions and most also say they are the one true religion. This being the case each expert in their field is also just that. An expert in their religion. I feel that is also important to remember because they are looking at everything from their religions point of view. These many great experts do not all agree with each other.

I do not mean to offend anyone here, I do want to make this as clear as I can. That being said;

There are experts in Satanism as well as Christianity, would you consider them a valid source for religion?

I bring this up because for many people, Christian hierarchy is just as useless a source as I am sure Satanism is for you.

Again, thank you for your input. I really do want to get as much insight on the table as possible here.


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James A Watkins 7 years ago from Chicago

"If you mean an organized group practicing a religion; That tends to mean that one person, or group of people tells the rest what a "scripture" means and expect the remaining people in the group to follow along and usually pay a tithe. While the demands of "following the flock" differ, the basis is the same. Follow what we tell you to do because we say it is right."

I do not agree with this statement if you are referring to Christianity.  We are taught to read the Bible and ask God directly for illumination as to the deeper meanings.  As with many things, there are many layers of understanding and meaning. 

Now, we have experts; as we do in all fields.  Most of us have jobs and families to tend to and if we want answers about math, science, history, psychology—we seek out information from someone who is a specialist in that field—who spends the majority of their time studying and writing about it.  If we need a plumber, electrician, an aircraft mechanic—we call one to help us with problems we don't know how to solve.  Because they spend their days toiling in this field, they have had years of training, this is their calling, their vocation.  It seems the only field where this is now drawing flak is in religion.  We trust experts in all other fields but experts in God are trying to "tell us what to do." 

For 2000 years, millions of theologians, teachers, and preachers have made the study of Scripture their lifelong calling.  From this, a consensus has come about regarding the important matters, based on a collective understanding of the nature of God, us and the universe.  The meaning and purpose of life. Do they have a duty to tell us if they see us doing something wrong?  Of course.  A doctor will tell you not to smoke; a plumber will tell you not to flush your underwear down the toilet; a car mechanic will tell you not to drive 100 miles per hour on those bald tires.   Experts tell you these things because they are giving you good advice about what is good for you. 


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kwade tweeling 7 years ago from USA Author

Well Indigenous, do share...?


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Indigenous 7 years ago from Earth

But I can define and explain it easily and simple :)


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Tricia Lee 7 years ago from Colorado

Kwade, Thanks for the response.


Anonoymous 7 years ago

Religion is a personal thing. Its what you feel you need in your life to make you complete!


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kwade tweeling 7 years ago from USA Author

Sorry to take so long approving those Tricia and Indigenous.

Tricia, you said, "No one can define something, if we cannot explain it. It's OK to say we don't have all the answers at this time. But don't just make things up! Especially when it comes to what happens after death."

In essence, that is what religion is. Making up answers. Now, people have sources, they are usually not just pulling info out of their behinds, but all religion is ideas of interperetation. How someone interperates what something means. Usually this is an interperatation of a book written long ago.


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Tricia Lee 7 years ago from Colorado

"All religion offers answers to important spiritual questions. They offer some way to define that which we cannot explain. Along that vein, they offer a view of what happens after death."

No one can define something, if we cannot explain it. It's OK to say we don't have all the answers at this time. But don't just make things up! Especially when it comes to what happens after death.


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Indigenous 7 years ago from Earth

Is there any common view or understanding of all religions what happens after death?

Thank You!

 

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