Parable..? by Merwin

Rich Man and Lazarus

Luk 16:19 ΒΆ There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

Luk 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

Typically with parables we know that they are parables, because Jesus said they are parables. Or, because it is included with other parables, so even though it might not be specifically singled out as such, because it is included among other parables, you know that it too, is a parable.

This is not the case with the rich man and Lazarus... nowhere is there any indication that it is a parable.

I know we have all been taught that it is a parable and so we have assimilated that information into our personal dogma. What if this teaching is inaccurate? For years I thought that Saul, on his way to Damascus was knocked off his horse by the power of God and blinded... where is his horse..?


Act 9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

Act 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

Let's briefly continue as though Jesus telling us of the rich man and Lazarus is as a parable... I don't think it is, but let us continue along that avenue.

Because something might be "only" a parable, is it then somehow worthy of being set aside, or, even worse, are we allowed to simply accept the things contained within, that are convenient..?

I know all the believers that read this will say, "No... even if it is inconvenient it is the Word of God and everything that came out of the mouth of Jesus is perfectly true." Granted, with a parable we have our Lord saying things, such as, "The kingdom of heaven is like..." and the word "like" can plant in our mind some leeway for interpretation. I think the leeway we take, is not a leeway that is given, at least in most cases.

So, the rich man and Lazarus as a parable..?

There are some very solid statements in the "parable" that need to be addressed. The account of the rich man and Lazarus illustrate the dual nature of that dimension, one side hell, the other side... paradise? Jesus said to the thief crucified next to him, "...today you will be with me in paradise." just before He spent three days in the belly of the earth. At any rate, Lazarus was comforted by Abraham, also, there was a great gulf between them that no one could cross, and in hell the rich man was tormented in flame.

Again, I personally don't think that this is a parable. It may very well be the accounting of Lazarus whom Jesus called from the tomb.

Lets consider that Jesus knew Lazarus and loved him before his death. Let us further consider that Lazarus may have been sick for a long time before dying, sick enough to make a beggar out of him and then suppose his condition takes a violent turn for the worse finally killing him.

His sisters send word to Jesus out of their loving care for their long ailing brother, but Jesus delays, so His power could be manifest before all. After Jesus raises Lazarus from the dead Lazarus tells Jesus what had happened since his death.

Yeah... I know, I am reaching. It is not as far a reach as calling something Jesus says a parable when He did not call it a parable.

Parable or no... Jesus described something, and you can count on it being just as He described it.


Comments 12 comments

Chasuk 5 years ago

I thought I'd left a comment here; I guess HubPages ate it.

What I said before, I'll say again: I have no problem accepting Luke 16:19-31 as a parable with the message, "Repent now, because in death you won't get a second chance."

Also note that Jesus speaks of Hades here, not Hell. The two are not necessarily the same.


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CoauthorU 5 years ago from Inland Northwest, USA Author

Try it again in KJV...

Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.


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searchinsany 5 years ago from UK

You haven't provided any Scriptural support for your hypothesis and I wonder if your love of writing fiction has perhaps interferred with your reasoning...lol.

No offense intended.


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CoauthorU 5 years ago from Inland Northwest, USA Author

Thank you searchinsany...

I think it should be considered the other way around. I suggest it is others who have hypothesized that it is a parable with no one crying out for Scriptural support.

My "reaching" by postulating a scenario that brings the conceptualizing of Lazarus as an actual account need not necessarily be that of Lazarus, the brother of Mary and Martha, but it could be.

My points in all that were clear... I thought. That nowhere does it say that it was a parable, that there may have actually been a person named Lazarus that Jesus was giving an account of, and that, parable or not a parable, Jesus provided a perfect description of where He would go after his death on the cross.

Thank you again for your comment.


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crystolite 5 years ago from Houston TX

Good work.like it so much because it spoke much about my believe


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CoauthorU 5 years ago from Inland Northwest, USA Author

Thank you crystolite... God's blessings to you.


thewordofgod 5 years ago

The Lazarus story was added by the Roman government while they were producing the new testament. If you noticed the scriptures before and after them, they match up with the talk about sin but this story is a false one to deceive the readers into thinking there's a place called hell. Hell has nothing to do with the truth. The new testament has many pagan ideas added to it that only God knows about. Since I have his knowledge, then he's able to show me what lies are added to the scriptures.

The reason the Roman government produced the new testament was to deceive all the followers of the saints they killed. They finished killing them in the early fourth century and that's when they started the Roman Catholic church from their old pagan churches.

This religious mindset called the beast became powerful in the minds of the Babylonians who gave it to the Jews while they were captives. This beast is the reason the rest of the prophets were killed and Jesus and all the saints were killed by the beast in the minds of the Romans who got it from the Greeks and the Greeks got it from the Persians who defeated the Babylonians to set the Jews free.

Now this religious beast is in the minds of most people on earth because sinners worship their own ideas and not the true God. This is called pagan worshiping and these sinners break the laws and commandments of God that condemn them to death.

Only Jesus and the saints were freed from the beast when God made them sinless.


Chasuk 5 years ago

@Merwin: You can safely ignore the troll above.

Elsewhere, thewordofgod wrote: "I'm the last saint to exist and the only one since the early fourth century. Whatever I write is directly from God."


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CoauthorU 5 years ago from Inland Northwest, USA Author

Thanks Chas I gathered as much.

troll..? LOL


Chasuk 5 years ago

@Merwin: I call him a troll, but he might be insane. I'm truthfully not sure which.


thewordofgod 5 years ago

Daniel 2: A Prophecy about Christianity

The following prophecy was written by Daniel, a prophet of God's who received a message from him through the dreams of King Nebuchanezzar, the Babylonian king who had his army destroy Jerusalem and capture many Jews. Daniel's writings were about end time prophesies and this one in particular shows the religion of Christianity that came out of the fourth Kingdom, which was the Roman Empire.

Most people don't realize that the Roman government had a law forbidding the gospel being preached soon after the disciples became sinless saints and preached the same gospel as Jesus did, which is the voice of God. The Romans kept killing the saints until they were all eliminated by the early fourth century. With many followers left, the Romans had to find a way to deceive them so they started the religion of Christianity and changed the writings of some saints they killed to make a falsified new testament. This started the famine of the Word found in the prophesies of Amos 8:11-12 and Daniel 9:22-27.

The beast that Daniel interpreted had a head of gold to describe the Babylonian Empire. The silver chest and arms described the Persia-Medes Kingdom. The bronze belly and thighs was the Greek world rule and the legs of iron was the Roman Empire. The feet of iron and clay come out of the fourth Kingdom and is symbolic for a continued world power that will be destroyed at the end of this age.

The only world kingdom that has remained intact since the fourth kingdom of the Roman Empire is Christianity. The Vatican and the Roman Catholic church were a dominating world power for over a thousand years and they still have world influence. This is the symbolic iron feet of Daniel's beast and the clay symbolizes the Protestant churches with all it's denominations. Clay breaks into many pieces when struck on a hard object. This world power is in place today but it will be destroyed when the earth's crust is melted by hot lava, which won't be long from now.

Here's the prophecy that reveals Christianity as part of the beast that will be destroyed in the end.

Daniel 2

31: "You saw, O king, and behold, a great image. This image, mighty and of exceeding brightness, stood before you, and its appearance was frightening.

32: [b][color=blue]The head of this image was of fine gold, its breast and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, [/color][/b]

33: [b][color=blue]its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay.[/color][/b]

34: [b][color=blue]As you looked, a stone was cut out by no human hand, and it smote the image on its feet of iron and clay, and broke them in pieces;[/color][/b]

35: [b][color=blue]then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold, all together were broken in pieces,[/color][/b] and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, so that not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.

40: [b][color=blue]And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.[/b][/color]

41: And as [b][color=blue]you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom;[/color][/b] but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.

42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.

43: As [b][color=blue]you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.[/color][/b]

44: And in the days of those kings [b][color=blue]the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;[/color][/b]

45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

This prophecy shows that the saints were killed by the Roman Empire ( horn) and that the saints will receive the kingdom after all these earthly kingdoms are destroyed.

Daniel 7

17: `These four great beasts are four kings who shall arise out of the earth.

18: [b][color=blue]But the saints of the Most High shall receive the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, for ever and ever.'[/color][/b]

19: "Then I desired to know the truth concerning the fourth beast, which was different from all the rest, exceedingly terrible, with its teeth of iron and claws of bronze; and which devoured and broke in pieces, and stamped the residue with its feet;

20: and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up and before which three of them fell, the horn which had eyes and a mouth that spoke great things, and which seemed greater than its fellows.

21: As I looked, [b][color=blue]this horn made war with the saints, and prevailed over them

22: until the Ancient of Days came, and judgment was given for the saints of the Most High, and the time came when the saints received the kingdom. [/color][/b]

23: "Thus he said: `As for the fourth beast, there shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be different from all the kingdoms, and it shall devour the whole earth, and trample it down, and break it to pieces.


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CoauthorU 5 years ago from Inland Northwest, USA Author

2 thewordofgod...

(not by chance, no capitals)

I can't argue with the verse but I can disagree with your interpretation of it... and I do disagree with you.

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