Paranormal Phenomena: Hysteria or Good Old Fashioned Mumbo Jumbo

Paranormal is a general term that designates experiences that lie outside "the range of normal experience or scientific explanation" or that indicates phenomena understood to be outside science's current ability to explain or measure.


William Shakespeare had thoughts on this issue

As William Shakespeare observed, through the mouths of Horatio and Hamlet, in the play named after that Danish Prince; after seeing and remarking on the ghost that appeared to them.

Horatio:
O day and night, but this is wondrous strange!

Hamlet:
And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Paranormal phenomena are not necessarily of a religious nature, although there are those who will insist that paranormal incidents encompass religious experience and many who consider that religious experience is provable.

If so, where does “Faith” step in?

“Miracles” can be incidents that are not explainable scientifically. Or the great unexplained. But to go down that track on a Hub would be unwise because there is the whole gamut of religious, theistic, agnostic and atheistic belief represented, and it would no doubt open an enormous can of worms. Enough to say that for all intents and purposes, the history of incidents of Paranormal Activity is usually a matter of the result of anecdotal evidence; either from individuals, or at times, of groups.


Let us say that, for the present, Paranormal Phenomena can be described as such, only and until Science steps in and explains what actually happened, or is happening.


I notedes, on reading A.A.Zavala’s very interesting hub 'Paranormal Activities: Personal Experiences' (No longer published) that the comments section had all sorts of theories and ideas coming out of the woodwork, along with their proponents. They ranged from the sceptical, through the vaguely kind but disbelieving, to the outright “Born Again I’ll believe anything so long as it has Ghosties and Ghoulies and long-leggedy Beasties and things that go bump in the night” adherents. There was also a heavy smattering of the evil spirit brigade and the “Show it the light and you’ll be OK” crowd.


Come along guys. Why the hysteria and belief that the paranormal is a series of Evil Spirits and Long Lost Aunties, and scenes of bloodshed and unrequited love and all that business?

It isn’t Halloween every day of the week.

Paranormal means “out of the ordinary” it doesn’t have to read like a Richard Strauss opera or something out of Wagner’s 'Ring Cycle'. It’s not a story by Edgar Allan Poe.

Some things are just unexplainable at the present, but it doesn’t have to be the work of the Devil or Angles or some blue faced Hindu deity or the Baby Jesus.

And if you think that that “presence” you feel when you go up to the spare room is Auntie Beverley who ran away with the sailor. Think again. The Old Bird would probably not be up in that spare room if she had her way…

That spare room is cold and North Facing. That’s why it’s the spare room.

The Auntie Beverley I know would be more likely to be down at the ‘Jolly Sailor Lad’ down on the waterfront where the sailors go to get drunk and pick up willing young ladies.

Well, in her youth she might have, but I have heard that just before the Old Bird popped her clogs, she would be more like the old dears who relied on the kindness of strangers.

“Any place where death has occurred seems to have an aura”

A.A.Zavala, my friend, the ‘Potholder’ incident was interesting, but following on from comments, are you implying that somebody died or was buried there?

Just me being facetious.

You mentioned that “Any place where death has occurred seems to have an aura”. I would like to point out that death has occurred” almost everywhere on this planet. So, in reality, there would be nowhere which didn’t have an aura. Think of a battlefield; think of the Somme; think of the gas ovens at the Labour Camps. Without talking lightly about the subject, these places would be knee deep in auras.


Remember the Genie in the story of Allah-din?

Muslims believe that, as there are humans in the world, so also, living alongside them are Djinns; living creatures who are all around us.

Remember the Genie in Allah-din? He was Djinn, or a Djinni... just a different spelling. We may not be able to see them, but they are not all evil and cause trouble. There are some good ones and some naughty ones… like humans. There are some who are Muslims and there are some who aren’t. That’s paranormal. Not explained, but if you believe in it, then it’s a part of life.

And if you don’t; so what? It’s not provable either way. Not yet, anyway.



"Things" and "Presences"

Several Hubbers who commented on A.A.Zavala’s hub said that they felt that they had seen “things” and felt or experienced “presences”.

Have you never walked down a street and thought to yourself that perhaps the people you see all around you on a crowded thoroughfare might not actually be real living people? That perhaps they are “shades” of people, or spirits of the departed who have decided to take a stroll on a nice sunny day? It’s feasible. Why should spirits always hang around in old Victorian houses, clanking chains and “Wooooooooooing!” all the time? What’s wrong with them popping into a nice shopping mall and enjoying a chat with a friend or two? If you haven’t thought of it, perhaps you should open your eyes, and what you see might surprise you.

The recorded history of sightings and experiences of the paranormal, as I said earlier, are almost always a result of, and taken from, anecdotal evidence – or fabricated for the gullible

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So, using my own experiences, I will relate how I and only I, in this instance, have been involved in the paranormal.

I personally had an experience – or series of experiences, which do not fall into the usual run of the paranormal (an oxymoron, if ever there was one).

As a child, I was quite clairvoyant, as are many children, as the average young child who hasn’t had his (or her) mind closed down to being receptive, by adults with the usual: “Don’t be silly dear. That couldn’t have happened. You’re making it up”.

Children do see and experience visions, paranormal phenomena, the unexplained, and the unexplainable, much more than adults. Their experiences vary to a lesser or greater degree, and frequently, if they find they are reporting incidents and they are disbelieved, they either forget them; sublimate them; or worse, learn to deny it to others, and to themselves.

There are many children who appear to be what in other times would have been termed as “fey”. We all knew that strange little girl who kept herself to herself in the playground and always seemed to be “away with the fairies", the strange wild child, and the child who displayed other worldly, magical or visionary powers. The clairvoyant.

For me, it was easier. I had a willing and receptive audience. My mother was clairvoyant herself, and so understood where I was coming from. She also had all the time in the world to listen to me and to record my experiences, my statements and my retelling of my view of the world.

She was not the typical “busy mother” with endless chores to complete: cleaning, cooking, keeping house, gardening, day by day interminable duties, of the usual young mother. In fact she had time on her hands; a good deal of time on her hands.

My family had several servants to do all those chores and so she could take time to listen, to take note and to share.

There were several times when I exhibited prescience of situations so that I took it as being the norm. I just assumed that everybody was the same as my mother and I and that they were also privy to things that had happened; the weird and the wonderful, and to be able to understand what others were thinking.

In fact, my mother could understand my thoughts and tune in to them so well that, if I had a secret that I didn’t want to her to know, I would say, “Elephants, elephants, elephants, elephants, elephants” silently to myself to block her listening to my unspoken thoughts.

Nurture, nature or environment?

I also was brought up for most of my early, and formative years in India; in a country and a culture in which spirituality, mysticism, clairvoyance and divination are part of the everyday fabric of life.

So my companions, and the culture surrounding me, wouldn’t be at all nonplussed by a little Gora Chota Sahib (White Little Sir) who saw and experienced things beyond the usual day to day running of a British Military Cantonment.

I grew older, and reached my late teens and early twenties

So, as I grew older, and reached my late teens and early twenties, I found that my facility for seeing and experiencing the paranormal hadn’t really abated. And it wasn’t long before one particular awareness of one particular kind of paranormal activity became apparent to me. But this one was different from the rest and I became aware of it because it was a constantly recurring phenomenon.

I would see, out of the corner of my eye, a figure, almost beyond my range of vision, but I could see it clearly enough to know that it was a young man; slim and tall, and fair haired. This person would hover (if that is the word I require) within a few yards distance, and then if I were to turn directly towards him, to ascertain who or what he was, he would disappear from my sight.

I don’t mean that the disappearance was in any way dramatic, as one minute he would be there and than he would sort of “not be”.

Remember, I was used to seeing visions and what appeared to be people, from an early age, but had never really been disturbed, and certainly wasn’t alarmed at such. But there was a difference in this character which I couldn’t quite put my finger on.

To reiterate: He was tall, slim, fair haired, and also, I never saw his face, as it was always turned away from me. If I even had the briefest glance, he would be standing with his back to me or he would be walking away from me.

But I was not the only person who saw this apparition, as I now realised he was. I had a friend with whom I was very close, and she also was fey. She and I and one other person, happened to be born on the same day of the same month of the same year, and, by virtue of that, tended to be close. Jenny, the girl to whom I am referring, called us “The Triplets” and strangely enough, although we were not related, these was what one might have assumed was a “family resemblance”. Jenny was born in England, Gareth in West Australia and I in India.

Jenny started to be aware of this character of whom I am writing, and whereas I just took him for granted, Jenny became more and more worried about him, feeling that the apparition could, perhaps, be malevolent.

As I have already stated in this hub, I do not subscribe to the “Good Spirit, Evil Spirit” theory; neither to I believe that “dark and evil” apparitions mean me any harm, but Jenny was becoming increasingly agitated and worried about the “person” and she maintained that as she, also, had only seen “him” from behind, that “he meant me some harm”.

To appease her, I agreed to go and see a quite well know medium cum spiritual lady and to ask her advice.

Although white, the lady we consulted was similar in her outlook as the Obeah: Obeah is associated with both benign and malignant magic, charms, luck, and with mysticism in general.

Obeah is practiced in Suriname, Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, Dominica, Guyana, Barbados, Belize and other Caribbean countries.

We conferred with her for a while and she didn’t bother about the laying on of hands or crystals or incantations or anything of the sort. She was a very levelheaded and practical person; speaking less as a medium or spiritualist, but more as a sensible person discussing a scientific fact.

I could tell that Jenny was disappointed, and had expected amulets, spells, charms and invocations. In fact there was no great show. She did look a little mystical for a while, or maybe she had a headache, or a little too much red wine.

But at last she gave her thoughts on the matter, but not before Jenny had expressed her worst fears.

“Is he an evil spirit? A demon? The work of the Devil… Or even Lucifer himself?”

“No! Nothing like that,” said the lady. “This person you have seen and have worried about,” said she to Jenny, “Should be familiar to both of you”.

I really didn’t understand.

“You won’t,” said the lady, gazing into my eyes. And I feel that she was laughing at me. “You won’t,” she continued, “because you have only seen him from behind, or walking away from you”.

And then she explained that the vision, the apparition, the person I had seen out of the corner of my eye for so many months, was indeed myself.

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She explained that sometimes the anima, basically my soul, which in the most simplistic terms had become detached from my body and accompanies me. It is not a malevolent being (Unless I myself am malevolent) nor is it an evil entity, nor a wicked design of Mephistopheles. Neither is it a sadly smiling Guardian Angel with my well being at heart.

It’s just me… somewhat detached (Ha ha!).

So that cleared that up, and I must admit I learned to live with it. I had for so long, so it wasn’t a real trial.

I think Jenny felt a bit let down; having hoped for at least an exorcism and possibly a great party to accompany that exorcism… but we can’t have everything, can we?

But this was all years ago, when I was living in West Australia, and I eventually came to the United Kingdom, and basically forgot all about it. Once or twice I thought I saw something similar, and wondered if it could be the same paranormal phenomenon.

Can "Spirits " travel across water?

Then, years later, I was at home and two very dear friends came to see me. They were sisters I had taught when I was teaching in Southwark, in a school very close to London Bridge.

We had kept in touch and they were now young ladies… one, Tina, a Doctor of Medicine, and the other, Tumpa, an Architect.

Tumpa was in the house and had just come to the bottom of the stairs for something, when she looked up the stairs to see me climbing the stairs to the first floor. She called out to me something about something she was doing in the kitchen, but I didn’t answer. I just continued climbing the stairs and then turned to go towards my bedroom. She thought nothing of it, apart from the fact that I hadn’t replied to her when she had spoken to me, and was about to return to the kitchen, when I opened the front door and came back into the house. I had been in the car retrieving something, and the person on the stairs, walking away from Tumpa…?

That’s right. Spirits can cross water. “He” had stayed with me when I came to the UK.

So the next time someone feels a draught of cold air, and they fear for their safety… close the door. Someone left it open.

And the next time you see something strange and disturbing; something that makes you fear for you’re your very life or sanity… take a close look; you might have seen him or her in the bathroom mirror, just this morning,

Not a Paranormal Phenomenon - Elisabeth

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I saw a man upon the stair

A little man who wasn't there.

He wasn’t there again today,

Oh how I wish he’d go away.

With apologies to: William Hughes Mearns (better known as: Hughes Mearns)

This is an interesting bit of evidence.

A British advertising firm was making an ad for the Audi Motor Company. It showed a new model of the Audi Motor Car driving through a lovely bit of scenery. But what the advertising company did not know, was that a fatal car accident had taken place along that stretch of road, some years before, just at that place. As a result, the advertisement was never shown, due to respect for the family of the deceased person.

If you watch carefully, you will see a mist, possible a ghostly figure, which appears to follow the car as it drives up to the trees and reappears with the car as it emerges on the other side.

You will also hear the photographer whispering his instructions to a colleague in the background.

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drbj 5 years ago from south Florida

Geez! T.L. I had to change EVERYTHING!!! Just call me BJ Gullible.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Gosh. I only just published it. So thanks for being my first visitor.

And Yes... I have watched that clip several times, and although I know what's coming, I'm glad my underwear drawer is only a short distance away.

Hope you liked the hub.


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

Oh my gosh, My heart is beating so fast. How can You do that to a person. I think that was an interesting hub but I forgot what it said when I watched the video. I will see if I can remember what it said or come back later to reread.

By the way, Katy wrote a song and published it. Did you see it? Yes, I am shamelessly promoting my daughter.

Love ya and miss seeing you around. I have to come find you to see if you are still kickin'.


Sunnie Day 5 years ago

Ian Dorking Clark..I am being laughed at as I type..I jumped about a mile in the air..you got me!..I ALWAYS fall for those..EVERY time! hahaha

I really loved this hub..so much of what we believe is what we have been taught all our lives..My mother was very quiet about her visions as in the church; it would have been considered evil spirits. She saw things quite often when I was growing up. They never meant harm and she said she was never scared. She saw things from children to adults just standing there. My mom is a very kind and a gentle soul. It used to scare me when she would share her experiences. I have seen what you have shared, something out of the corner of my eye, passing lights, dark figures.. etc..never have seen real people or reflections of myself. There was only one time I felt an evil presence after someone had come over that I found out later had played around in dark magic. I am not sure what it was but my dog knew it was not good…I did not see anything but he growled and carried on at the air. I had a cold feeling… I prayed and it left. I still to this day do not know what it was and if it was just my crazy dog or my wild imagination..So much is unexplainable..I feel comforted that now I may have only seen myself..I hope it is a good hair day..lol Thanks again..

Love,

Sunnie


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thanks, Becky. Maybe I shouldn't have put the "evidence" video at the end, but you must have been well primed by that time.

Nothing personal, but I seldom read "songs" when there are just the lyrics, as I thin k that songs need to be sung... call me an Old Fashioned Miserable Old Coot, and not the Usual Miserable Old Coot, but there you are. I did have a look however.

Miss you too, I have been writing a lot and there has been a lot going on here... Several hub's worth.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Sunnie, I have watched that video several times and I still jump. It's one of the best I have ever seen.

I have a feeling that I have several hubs just on this subject. I never had the clairvoyance knocked out of me as a child, and even now I see and feel things that are unexplained.

If I forget, rattle the bars of my cage and poke me with a long stick and say "Ouija board".

By the way, I hope Nellie sees your poem, I think she would really enjoy it... and Randy Behaviour and Ben Writings... they are all good poets and I really think that that one of yours shows such maturity and capability.

Ian

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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Sunnie, I have watched that video several times and I still jump. It's one of the best I have ever seen.

I have a feeling that I have several hubs just on this subject. I never had the clairvoyance knocked out of me as a child, and even now I see and feel things that are unexplained.

If I forget, rattle the bars of my cage and poke me with a long stick and say "Ouija board".

By the way, I hope Nellie sees your poem, I think she would really enjoy it... and Randy Behaviour and Ben Writings... they are all good poets and I really think that that one of yours shows such maturity and capability.

Ian

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SilentReed 5 years ago from Philippines

The video almost gave me a heart attack. LOL...really.

Skeptics and believers may appear to be on opposite sides. But maybe it's the side of the brain that deals in logical thinking that is dominating. As you stated children are more incline to the "fairy tale" creative part of the brain. Those "rational" skeptics grow up to be 9 to 5 employees working in boring jobs. While those with wild imagination end up writing "Harry Potter" best sellers. :)This is a great hub...with a great finale :))


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

SilentReed, I am honoured by your visit, and have loved reading your comment. That is real, in-depth reasoning. Thank you for your input and also for your kind remarks.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

SilentReed, I am honoured by your visit, and have loved reading your comment. That is real, in-depth reasoning. Thank you for your input and also for your kind remarks.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

OHMYGOSH, Ian. I was fully expecting the car to drive out of sight behind the trees and not emerge. I just about knocked over my little laptop table, I jumped so - and screamed. Hope the neighbors don't call 911 to come check on the commotion over here, like someone during my watching 'Titanic' with the windows open & with the screaming on film during the sinking pouring out them!

You gave me such a fright, I must wait till tomorrow to actually comment on your hub! I was just about to go to bed - have to be up and to an eye appointment in the morning. Now if I can sleep after that scare! But I'm so pleased that you've published this fascinating subject and will look forward to delving into it more! Hugs - rascal!


writeronline 5 years ago

Nice work TL. Insightful and entertaining at the same time. Luckily I'm familiar with that particular ad, so was able to avoid re-experiencing it. Hope HP have got their Public Liability Insurance cover in place; and that it covers sudden death by heart attack...

It occurred to me while reading your Hub that your relaxed attitude to the paranormal could be explained by the words, "My family had several servants to do all those chores and so (my mother) could take time to listen, to take note and to share."

I think, for most of us, that qualifies as a 'paranormal upbringing'.

Cheers.


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sonia05 5 years ago from india

OMG!! You gave me a fright!!! But really, It's a very interesting and entertaining hub and very well written too!!

voted up!


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Rosemay50 5 years ago from Hawkes Bay - NewZealand

Why some people are more susceptible to the things I would have no idea. Both my son and I have seen and experienced strange things that nobody else seemed to be aware of. No doubt one day some super intelligent being will come and explain all to us earthly creatures.

Now then is that my neighbour leaning on the fence or…

I have see that clip several times but still I jump every time. Silly huh

Gteat hub and thoroughly enjoyed the read.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Nellie the hub was a mixture of the cynical, the sincere and the questioning. I glad you enjoyed the dénouement . I hope it didn't water down the rest of the hub.

Glad to see you're still with us; I was beginning to notice a dearth of Nellieanna


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mckbirdbks 5 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

Dear Mr. Clark, please find enclosed one laundry ticket.

And a detached soul, man what were you doing that made your soul wish to escape?

Glad to see you posting.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

WOL, I actually considered removing the video at one stage because the thought had crossed my mind that if some super sensitive hubber were diligently reading through the hub and came to the end, and shortly afterwards, handed in her/his dinner pail, that I might feel guilty. After all, I have almost unlimited compassion... my compassion has been known to last for almost ten to fifteen minutes at times.

The servants business? Don't worry, they were all doing what was required to keep a family of three functioning on a day to day basis. Read one or two of my other hubs and you will discover that they were so wonderful in my upbringing... I adored them; one especially, and I know that they were so fond of me.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Sonia, thank you for your visit. I'm glad you liked it and could relate to it. I have just read your profile and you seem to be a really lovely and interesting person.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Rosemay. there are many things that we see and experience that are well beyond out understanding at present. but I wonder of it will be "some super intelligent being" ir perhaps a quite ordinary person who is willing to go with the flow and see what really is there and not only accept the world as the mundane people accept it.

You and your son know what you have seen and you also know that other people are seldom will to accept those things, without putting labels onto them. Maybe we don't have the correct labels as yet.

And the video? I have watched it about twenty times now and STILL I jump and my stomach turns and my heart jumps into the back of my mouth.


Jan Holt 5 years ago

Hi Ian

Yes! that bloody video! Everyone that’s watched it screams and jumps out of their skins – even if they watch it again and again!!!

Your hub was entertaining and very interesting. But, I always knew you were such a detached soul ! ........ I do wonder if your hub was a mish-mash of little white lies and futile anecdotes which were composed purely for your own entertainment and accompaniment to the audi video...... and of course to give your fellow hub readers a treat!

Or, and be very honest please, have you really got ‘the gift’? Got to say, as I started reading about this visionary tall, slim chap with blonde hair – you did spring to mind! But I don’t think it was your soul, as the medium white lady suggested – because your soul would surely have been the same age as you were, when you had the said ‘vision’. I think you were definitely seeing yourself, but in another parallel universe ..... and yes, before you ask, I am a fan of the series ‘Fringe’!

All in all Ian, very good and entertaining and I do agree Auntie Beverley, surely being the game old bird that she most probably was, would definitely not feel chained to the spare bedroom, but indeed be down and haunting the ‘Love a Duck’ Tavern for Gentlefolk!

Jan x


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Mike, I'm laughing like a crocodile of silly schoolgirls at your comment.

I'm sorry about the laundry ticket, but I don't know what to do about that.

Strangely enough, the key to my bedroom door broke the other day and for three days I had to sleep on the daybed in the front sitting room, which would have been OK, but also, ALL my underwear and socks and shirts etc., were behind that locked door, and although I now have access to them, I suppose that it would break the bonds of friendship between us if I offered to have Oscar, the carrier pigeon, to bring you a couple of replacement underpants.

Awaiting your reply, Sir,

Yours faithfully,

Ian Clark (and all the rest of it)


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Hi, Jan.

Thank you for coming to read this hub and thank you for your kind comments.

It is nice to see someone reading my hubs as thoroughly as you and commenting so intelligently. I

Yes, it was true, and not a mish mash. I am not as clairvoyant as I was, but pretty much a lot of that still hangs around me. The lady who decided that it was me, said it was my "other me" because I was seeing a twenty-threeish person. It was the same age and... I also could have added that I/he wore a particular type of jacket, but that would have confused my fellow hubbers... too many words, and some of them lose interest. This was about twice the length of the stuff they really like.

Not everyone, as i have made some very wonderful friends on this site.

Now, young lady, how about joining hub pages and making it part of your already very crowded and interesting life. You have a lot to offer and I know there are many people who would benefit in your expertise.

Ian

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mckbirdbks 5 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

I'll just turn these inside out.


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attemptedhumour 5 years ago from Australia

Hi Ian, I suppose that I would fall into the skeptic's group, because I've never seen anything ghostly or otherwise, even when I was sozzled. I just can't believe in something that I haven't seen. It's an interesting topic though and if say you have seen yourself wandering about in the foreground then I'm impelled to believe you. PS Do you drink a lot? Oh thanks for making me jump off the couch, I needed to get up anyway.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I'm laughing again.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thanks for coming to have a look around, and in the spirit of your visit (Notice the weak pun?) I have to admit that I did drink... a lot, in fact. But I haven't had a drink in many years, since I became a Muslim, so I don't have that excuse.

Mind you, the "visitations" seemed to have diminished recently... I wonder of there's any connection.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Be careful what you conjure up, Ian! You may find yourself swamped with a Nellieanna plethora! My anima is quite responsive to receptive or inviting prodding! :-)

My sense of the paranormal is a little like my sense of the supernatural. super-NATURAL. para-NORMAL. If something exists, it may be "more than" what we accept as natural or "beyond" what we accept as normal, but it IS natural and normal if it IS at all. If we are just trying to imagine it into being -- well, maybe that IS a reality too. We don't fully -- or even partially -- KNOW the makeup of the real. We accept our own subjective perception as being "real". It is really subjective reality. Beyond that, we have less certainty - except as our subjective acceptance embraces. Doesn't deny or prove it. Just puts it into a bigger perspective than our own subjective one. (either individual or group subjectivity)

Is thought real? Is energy real? And in what form or manifestation do those probable ingredients of (super) "natural" and (para)"normal" play a role? If we knew that, poor ole Al Einstein could rest easily in his grave.

I love the mystery of it. I sense phenomena at times and my mother was quite sensitive, as well. Isn't creativity 'para'normal in a way? From whence do those inspirations come? I confess to having no concrete answers - obviously. I can have faith and believe without having all the answers, content that what is real IS / real ¬ waiting on or dependent on my concurrence!

This is a marvelous, thought-inspiring hub, Ian!! And if any entity can travel across water or through air or ether, surely spirits have more unlimited qualifications for it than any!!


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

I meant : "I can have faith and believe without having all the answers, content that what is real IS / real ¬ NOT waiting on or dependent on my concurrence!"

And I add that my concurrence is totally irrelevant to what really IS, and find it comforting. That would set up lots of conflict with others' concurrence to opposite possibilities. We all get to wait and see- or not, the case may be. If that is not in the picture, we won't.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you for all that, Nellie. As you no doubt realise, the hub is a direct result of reading Augustine's really interesting hub concerning the paranormal, but with the "Ian" slightly cynical look at the history.

The paranormal, as I think you will agree, is the explainable taken from a differing perspective,

Did you notice that I said, "differing" and not "different"?

I think there are degrees of appearances and happenings... nothing is black and white (except for Othello and Desdemona Ha ha!)

The hub, as I expected from Augustine, was well written and clear. It was the plethora of comments that started to emerge that I found a little, but tediously, expected.

Why do people think that just because something may or may not be explainable, that it must have some frightening or religious significance?

I knew that there were a good deal of Born Again Christians on HubPages who would love to get their collective teeth into the philosophy of his hub, but I must admit that I was also expecting a fair range of ideas, and they were there in spades.

The “I prayed and everything was safe again” was a constant, but I didn’t see anything about, ‘I sat down and said to myself, “Get a grip, everything isn’t evil… it’s just different”’.

Do I sound facetious? Of course I do, that the nature of the beast that is me.

Do I sound as if I am laughing at people’s beliefs and emotional ties to “other world” ideas? I hope not. I would not willingly hurt or try to undermine lovingly held family histories or memories.

I just think that there may be something out there that is completely unexplainable, and that is what I have tried to convey in the little anecdote concerning me and the/my “anima”.

Wait till my next hub (if I can be bothered to take my finger out and to write it) and you will find a couple of tales which may have an explanation, or they may not. Only time will tell.

But don’t worry; I didn’t ever feel the need to call in an exorcist, and I don’t think it will be necessary now.

And unfortunately, I do not have a video as entertaining as the one I posted on this… I haven’t (but I wish I had).


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

Well Ian, you may not have another video as good but I do. Where do I send it? I will donate my favorite if you will post it in a hub. You are such an old coot. Love ya.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Dear Becky,

You can send it to Mrs H. Plantagenet=Featheringstonehaugh at Twilight Lawns if you like. I'm sure that her secretary will acknowledge it if you write a little note (Correct spelling and punctuation, please)

Yours faithfully,

Ian Oulde-Coote Bart.


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

You have got to be kidding me. You dare mention correct punctuation and spelling to me? I was thinking email though. Katy giggled over your signature. Since she has been grousing just moments before, it was a great improvement.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Dear Ms Katz,

One can never be too careful. One has one's standards.

Your obedient servant,

Hilda Plantagenet-Featheringstonehaugh (Matron)


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

One's standards can also chuck you out on your head if you get too snobbish. TeeHee


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Tell me, Becky, does your son still do roofing? I have just had four quotes for having not an awful lot of work done on my roof and the quotes come in at £750 to £1,500.

I'm not poor, but I think that that is a hell of a lot.

I could employ Ghastly Prendy to do it and she would most probably do it happily so long as I kept the Battenberg and Tea coming.


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mckbirdbks 5 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

£1,500, I could fly there and back and fix the roof for that kind of money. Will Josie be there?


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

You ask "Why do people think that just because something may or may not be explainable, that it must have some frightening or religious significance?"

Perhaps people carry vestiges of our earliest predecessors' superstitious feelings about things not readily explainable or which seemed contrary to the familiar. There are surely links to and associations with those which perhaps even contributed to the origins of religion and its links with spooky interpretations. There seem to be natural affinities in humans to such connections.

Human minds demand some sort of answers, so if they're not forthcoming satisfyingly, we tend to simply supply them. Possibly those answers made in such a way may be more believable if they're frightening. It's possibly easier to convince others that something is due to ghosts than that the wind or a loose shingle caused weird sounds. We may have an appetite for the ghoulish and terrifying and a thirst for impractical ideas.

Maybe our ancestors were bored with everyday observations and explanations and indulged in their own dramatizations like today's movies. haha. Anyway, what's more unexplainable than the way human minds work? Possibly dark holes in space are but reflections of our own minds, especially if they're populated with really scary ghouls and beasties.

See - I just demonstrated this tendency to supply answers which are lacking. hehe


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thanks, Mike. I'll get you a lovely hard hat in bright yellow and some steel toed boots... Josie will be there and she says that if you wear the hat and boots, will you look like one of the Village People. If so, she finds it a turn on.Mind you, Svetlana and bright yellow make a good combination, so have could be the beginning a Pop Group. I'll see if Raj can borrow his dad's sitar, and Samir will join in if you like.

I just read your profile again. I love buying second-hand books... I love to imagine someone has turned the pages and enjoyed the book as much as I.

And Harper Lee's 'To Kill a Mockingbird' is one of my favourites.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

A lovely and entertaining comment, Nellieanna. I love your parallels with the black hole theories. Ha ha!

Your statement: "Anyway, what's more unexplainable than the way human minds work?" taken in context is a brilliant observation. Much food for thought there.

Ian


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

You are so dear, Ian. We think about these things all our lives - amazing! All anyone can actually do or think is our own perception and imagination - or acceptance of those of others. It's not that bad a deal. Whatever our minds can muster, they are phenomenal and the truth presents itself for the notice and comprehension of it. We just might grasp it. Hug


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I forgot to send you the "bass and the black" as promised

Now let's see what the other Hubbers think of that statement.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I forgot to send you the "bass and the black" as promised

Now let's see what the other Hubbers think of that statement.


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ThoughtSandwiches 5 years ago from Reno, Nevada

hi Twilight...

I would probably be found dithering about in the 'skeptic' camp...too much of a wuss to go either hither or yon I suppose on the matter. I have never seen a spirit...but I don't mind them watching me if they want.

Now...we live in a very poorly insulated home that (come winter) has little pockets of cold spots that are just...a little colder than the place next to it??

Anyway...whenever I go through one of those 'colder' spots...I think I am walking through the soul of a child-ghost. It creeps me out.

Thank you for reminding me of that, as well as, your wonderful hub.

Thomas


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thomas, thank you for your eloquent and thoughtful comment. Maybe what you are walking through is not just a patch of cold closer to a not so cold patch of cold. Just go with your base instincts, and ignore the "Oh! My God! It's strange, it must be evil" ideas.

It could be something, it may be nothing, but it's possible something which we don't understand yet.

I like your "I have never seen a spirit...but I don't mind them watching me if they want."

That's a the way I feel.


Doug Turner Jr. 5 years ago

Ian, "I have never seen a ghost, nor heard spirits in the night.

But I know the cold wind blows, and shadows cower from the light."

Interesting hub. As much as I enjoy your calculated prose and poetry, it's always refreshing when something triggers your thoughts and sends lightening bolts at the screen. Your take on the paranormal (there's that word!) is interesting and not annoying, as so many opinions on the matter can be. My own thoughts? I've never experienced anything outside the realm of scientific human life. So I joyfully accept that people believe in spirits and ghosts, just as I joyfully accept that some people don't. Pick your poison and chug it down. The same goes for religion; "be not convinced by other's beliefs, just as ye convince not others of your beliefs."

Of course, someday, I'll undergo some spiritual or religious experience and begin ranting about how I saw Jesus, Mohammed, and the ghost of Gandhi playing cricket on Silver Lake. It's inevitable. But until then, I always enjoy reading your words from a place of reasonable sanity. May you be blessed and haunted accordingly.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Why, Doug, are you hidden in the Colonies, when you could be here, just around the Corner, close enough for us to meet and have a coffee?

Or we could go to the Oval or to Lords Cricket ground and watch a Test Match there. I have never been to either, but I live near the former, and my chum could talk us through the match.

My betting is on Ghandiji to be the best player... after all, those Indians are good at the game.

But Jesus? Maybe. The guy was fit.

Then again, Muhammad! I don't know what Arabs are like on the cricket field... Camel racing may be his strength.

I've decided that bets are off until I've studied form.


Doug Turner Jr. 5 years ago

Ian, I would put my money on Gandhi. Problem is, if someone accidentally strikes him during the match, it might spark a bloody revolution. One has to be cautious when arranging an event with such personalities.


Sunnie Day 5 years ago

I just came over to say one thing! BOOOOOOOO!

Hope I didn't scare you too bad.. lol Just checking on my friend.. If I don't see you for a couple days I have to go looking..Hope all is well..staying warm?..No warm days lately to eat in your car and write I bet..Big hugs!

Take care,

Love,

Sunnie


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Hi, Sunnie. I am keeping a very low profile. I have decided not to post anything much (well, not poetry) until Novebmer and the Great Poetry Binge has finished, so have caught up with a bit of personal reading.

By the way, talking of Boooooooooo!, I wish I had had a video camera the other night. I showed my neighbour the video on this hub, and the poor dear almost had a heart attack. She was bouncing around the room, shrieking, "Oh you shouldn't have done it. I think I'm going to have a heart attack" and wailing and moaning.

I was considering giving her a good slapping... Not because it would have helped calm her down, but because I would have enjoyed it.

But she's bigger than I am, so it would have been unwise.

I can't wait to find another video as scary. Then it will be "Lights , camera, action" and I'll post her reactions on HP and YouTube.

Backy Katz said she was going to send me one, but I think she doesn't love me any more, so has forgotten.

x


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

I haven't forgotten Ian, it is buried and I am looking for it. I will attempt to find it again today. I have not been writing for the contest either. I did post something though. Just a tribute to my veterans for Veterans Day, which is coming up here. Take care, you old coot.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Ha ha ha!

It is buried and I am looking for it sounds good. When you dig it up, looking like an illustration for Edgar Allan Poe's worst nightmare, send it on.


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

I sent it. Did it make it. I have over 800 saved that I had to search through to find it.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Over 800?

You ought to get out a bit more.

But no, it didn't make it.

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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

Send me an email, so I can use the address on it to send it to you.


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

I sent it, let me know when you get it. As for the 800. I have been saving them for years. I have had a computer for over 20 years now and save good jokes.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Excellent. I am going over to have a look now.


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snakeslane 5 years ago from Canada

Geez Twilight Lawns, how did I miss this beauty? Thank God I'd already been frightened out of my wits with that clip you showed months ago and have never opened another email attachment from that "friend" since. I found your story of childhood feyness (not a word? ok) interesting 1. because you had a very interesting childhood living in exotic locations and having a mother that could spend that kind of time with you, and 2. because it made me think about myself at a young age and trying to remember how I viewed the world. I haven't come up with anything paranormal to tell you, but it's got me thinking. Hopefully when the alzheimers progresses I will have better recall on that. Sorry I missed this, what an interesting conversation. Regards, snakeslane


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Snakeslane, I think you and I have almost exactly the same sort of sense of humour. I love your: "Hopefully when the alzheimers progresses I will have better recall on that". It is just the sort of thing I would say.

Thank you for your visit, and thank you also for your 'The Child and the Daffodils'. It was so lovely. It's so worth reading again and again.


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snakeslane 5 years ago from Canada

Took me all day to think of this word Twilight Lawns (a bit slow, not much fun at a dinner party) "prescient" It seems I had some of these moments along the way (and still do) maybe not in any paranormal way, but enough to have it noted here and there between friends and family that this was more than a coincidence. Until you think about it as you say, you just take this for granted, especially if it's always been there. Seems to run in the female siblings and aunts and cousins, the guys don't talk about it so much which doesn't mean it isn't happening. Small things, dialing the wrong number right at the moment something is happening with someone you did not intend to call. Getting a feeling about something from a sound that you hear and then it turns out to be true, ummm just "knowing" what is going on without anyone telling you, that kind of thing. Interesting subject you picked to discuss here, I like it. Cheers, snakeslane. ps. more here, Actually, this morning when I logged on to Hub Pages you had written this reply to me only one minute before. It was early here, around 5 or 6 in the morning. Anyway, just wanted to share that with you while we were on the subject.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

There are more things in heaven and earth, snakeslane,

Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

May be the guy thing comes through... women are always more willing to admit to "other worldly" experiences.

Regardless of all that, I am so glad we found each other on HP, as I love your writing style and your sense of humour and and and


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A.A. Zavala 5 years ago from Texas

The promised hub. Written in your style, and unflintching.

As you're aware, I keep an open mind to these occurances, because they could happen for several reasons. Who am I to say it isn't real, or that it is truly spirits walking among us. I just accept what I see, and as long as no ill comes from it, I think nothing about it.

I never considered the images to be projections from myself, until now. I envy your exposure and introduction to the spirit world in India, that land of countless deities. One of my favorite ghost (spirit?) stories is the one about the Monkey Paw. Thank you for sharing your insight, and especially the pictures.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Augustine, than you for your visit. I was prompted to write this hub as a result of reading yours, and hoped that you would not think that I was belittling yours, but only offering another facet to this argument.

I, as you have no doubt become aware, find it difficult to approach any subject without giving it the "Ian" twist, and although some of this was written with my tongue very firmly planted in my cheek, there isn't a fabrication or a lie in there... just a slight manipulation of the truth.

My mind is also open, and given the time (which is a euphemism for saying "when I can take my finger out") I shall submit a few more anecdotes and see where the spirit (I make no excuse for the pun) leads us.


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nemanjaboskov 4 years ago from Serbia

A very interesting hub, and a lot of great points made by you, Ian!

I actually haven't had any experience with paranormal, but I wouldn't be so quick to judge people who have. I try to keep an open mind and accept that different people might think differently of the same happenings.

I wasn't expecting a video like that at the end, but I had already seen it a long time ago. If I hadn't, I must say that both me and my girlfriend, who is currently sleeping beside me, would have jumped up from the sofa :) And I would have gotten knocked on the head for waking her up :)

A lot of conditionals in one place...


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Twilight Lawns 4 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Nemanja, I opened the computer this morning to find you have been reading and reading and reading.

THANK YOU!

I am a very slow reader, myself, and would not be able to read all that amount in an evening.

As you are beginning to discover, I have several interests, and enjoy writing about a fairly esoteric set of subjects. I hope they all (if possible) come up to your expectations.

Actually, I know what's coming in that little video, and yet it always makes me jump, no matter how many times I have watched it.

Ian


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snigdha.s 4 years ago from India,mumbai

The video was scary.Luckily the first time i was reading another of your hub while i played the video for this one. The scream did scare me .But when i watched it ............my heart is still beating 10 times faster. is it real? I don't have the courage to go back and check the minute details again.


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Anna Haven 3 years ago from Scotland

Very interesting, and I like how you have presented the hub from the perspective of a believer but also a sceptic. Engaging throughout and a pleasure to read.

I am a believer :)


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Twilight Lawns 3 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

snidha.s, I am so sorry. i didn't get the message that you had replied. You must think I am so rude.

Sorry again, and thanks for the comment. I cannot watch that clip without jumping out of my skin...EVERY TIME.


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Twilight Lawns 3 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Nothing is straightforward with me, Anna. I always manage to see both sides of an argument, an opinion... even a fact.

Yes, I am a believes, but a skeptical one, as you have already realised.

Thank you for the visit and the comment.


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Eldon Arsenaux 16 months ago from Cooley, Texas

The chosen video is a splendid way to end the hub. Our expectations are up. We're seeing a serene and realistic scene. Then Bam! Our worst fears are realized. The visual jolt really energizes the preceding words. Well done.

Like you I knew it was coming. But the wind-up you provided was the real sucker-punch. That lifeline, 'the edge', as it is called, is always there with us. We rarely, if ever, cross over this edge, but perch on the precipice. The past exists in us, does it not? Gaze at the stars. Light shines. We see it thousands of years ago, but that past becomes present. Ghost Stars man! Now we're seeing Ghost Stars! Ya dig?

And Auntie Beverly! Oh, she's still asleep in her rocking chair near the stairs of the stoop, smoking her Floridian pipe. Dreams. Old creaking Lady Farts. Isn't that a gas? What lingers? Vapor and spirit. Energy! It's tangible man. Flatulence is, to me, the fuel of The Firmament.

Dug the Hub Sir Lawns.

-E.G.A


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Twilight Lawns 16 months ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Eldon, you are so off the wall. When I read one of your comments I have to go back to the hub you have commented on and ask myself if I have been so clever.

Ah, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and your excellent use of words makes the mundane appear wonderful - albeit from another's perspective.

I am minded to write some more for HP, but there is a tiny voice within me (I think it's my Muse, Erato) reminding me that I have only written about eight hundred words in my novel (Ha!) during the last two years.

Maybe I should take out my finger... or take my finger out, before I start anything else.


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Eldon Arsenaux 16 months ago from Cooley, Texas

This place, Hubpages, is as good as any for allowing your work to be read for free. (Then who knows?) Maybe we're not some New York snob sitting on a butt-clenching stool at the tippy top of a high-rise in Manhattan with sixty mounds of manuscripts lain about before them telling you to type on cream, NOT EGGSHELL, paper. But here, we get to read it, really read it, whatever it is, without that cynicism of the clammy copywriter. Hubpages is one space that lets the Spider Writer continue to weave his intricate web of words. Weave! Mummify the Flies! Hub! Share.

-E.G.A.


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Twilight Lawns 16 months ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

This is gifted writing:

"the Spider Writer continue to weave his intricate web of words. Weave! Mummify the Flies! Hub! Share."

Bravo.

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