ROCK of OFFENSE

Jesus: The Rock of Offense

Do you find yourself offended by some teachings that contradict what you’ve always been taught? If something doesn’t align with your beliefs you just quickly shut it off and don’t listen? Truly, there are some teachings that don’t align with the Word of God. Does what you believe align with the full Word of God? Are you one who studies to show thyself approved? Do you test what it is that’s being taught? Do you trust the teachers of this world more than you trust what the Bible says?

Isa 8:14 “Then He shall become a sanctuary; But to both the houses of Israel, a stone to strike and a rock to stumble over, And a snare and a trap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem.”

Rom 9:33 “just as it is written, ‘Behold, I lay in Zion a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense, and he who believes in Him will not be disappointed." (also see Isa 28:16)

1 Pet 2:7-8 “This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve, ‘The stone which the builders rejected, this became the very cornerstone’, and, ‘a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense’; for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed.”

Jesus is the Rock of offense to those who would rather stick to their traditional teachings and habitual beliefs. The Jews were greatly offended by Jesus Christ’s teachings. If they are God’s chosen ones, why would the Word of God offend them? The Word became flesh and they crucified Him. Why? Because Jesus claimed to be God (Luke 5:21; Mark 2:7; John 8:58-59). Does that offend you, too? Do you believe Jesus Christ is God, who came in the flesh?

Upon This Rock

Let’s look at this Rock in the pages of the Word:

Ps 18:2 “The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.”

Ps 19:4 “Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart Be acceptable in Your sight, O LORD, my rock and my Redeemer.”

2 Sam 22:37 “The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock; And exalted be God, the rock of my salvation

1 Cor 10:3 “all ate the same spiritual food; and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock [petra] which followed them; and the rock [petra] was Christ.” (Ref Ex 17:6; Num 20:11; Ps 78:15; 105:41)

A Doctrine of Error

In Mat 16:18 our Rock states, “I also say to you that you are Peter [petros], and upon this rock [petra] I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.”

Everyone knows the Catholic church built their foundation upon Peter. The Pope feels he has authority as God’s vicegerent (a deputy appointed to act on the authority of a ruler or magistrate, especially in administrative duties). "The Pope is of great authority and power, that he is able to modify, declare, or interpret even divine laws. The Pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth..." Lucius Ferraris, in "Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica", Volume V, article on "Papa, Article II", titled "Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility", #30, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition. Ref: http://www.lightministries.com/id523.htm

Why is it the Catholic catechism does not teach the 10 Commandments as written in the Holy Bible? They leave out the second commandment and split the ninth into two. What is that second commandment? “You shall not carve idols for yourselves in the shape of anything in the sky above or on the earth below or in the waters beneath the earth; you shall not bow down before them or worship them.”

Do Not Add to or Take Away from God's Word!

Not only that, but the Textus Receptus (does that sound Latin to you? It is!) added to the Word of God. Truly, it was Catholicism that introduced the doctrine of Lucifer (Latin insertion) and God in three persons. The latter violates the first commandment. There were no Catholic or Protestant denominations in the early Church. Protestantism branched off of the Catholic church. The KJV was translated to English from the Textus Receptus! Are you offended? Are you willing to test this truth for yourself? Let me help get you started.

Believe it or not Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus was the one who first translated the Hebrew and Greek texts into Latin, known as the Textus Receptus. He was a Roman Catholic priest. He added the "trinity" of Father, Son and Holy Spirit/Ghost to Matthew 28:19 and inserted what is known as the Johannine Comma in 1 John 5:7. Truly God is the Father. God is the Son. God is the Holy Spirit. He is God; not three, but one and only one God. What does God’s Word say about those who add to or take away from the Word of God?

Deut 4:2 “You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.”

Rev 22:18-19 “I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.”

While Satan would have people throw out their faith in the entire Word of God, we will not throw the baby out with the bathwater! Did Jesus not say that tares would be sown among the wheat? The Seed is the Word of God! (Luke 8:11) The other seed sown among the good seed is of the Adversary (Mat 13:28).

He is I AM

Study for yourself. The word “Yehovah” is the long-form of “YHVH”. It is translated as LORD in the Old Testament. The first commandment states clearly:

Ex 20:2-3 “I am the LORD [Yehovah] your God [Elohim], who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods [elohim] before Me.” (see John 20:28)

The Greek word for Jehovah is Kurios. Note the following verses:

Rom 10:9 “if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord [Kurios], and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” Now, WHO raised Jesus from the dead? Jesus said in John 2:19, “Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up….He was speaking of the temple of His body.” (v. 21)

1 Cor 12:3 “no one can say, ‘Jesus is Lord [Kurios],’ except by the Holy Spirit.”

1 Tim 3:16 is clear: “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”

How do we confirm this?

Ex 3:13-14 state, “Then Moses said to God, ‘Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I will say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you.' Now they may say to me, 'What is His name?' What shall I say to them? God said to Moses, ‘I AM WHO I AM’; and He said, ‘Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'"

Compare this to Jesus’ words in John 5:28 “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I AM [Ego Eimi]." I AM is not past tense here, as ‘before Abraham WAS”.

Ps 23:1 tells us “The LORD is my Shepherd”. Jesus said in John 10:11 “I am the good Shepherd”.

Jesus said in John 8:24 (in the Greek): "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I AM [Ego Eimi], you will die in your sins."

Isa 43:11 tells us, “I, even I, am the LORD, And there is no savior besides Me.”

Isa 45:21 tells us, “And there is no other God besides Me, A righteous God and a Savior; There is none except Me.”

Do the words “God and Savior” mean there are two? Look at Acts 26:16 “I have appeared to you, to appoint you a minister and a witness” This does not indicate you will be two people.

Hos 13:4 tells us, “Yet I have been the LORD your God Since the land of Egypt; And you were not to know any god except Me, For there is no savior besides Me.”

Who Do YOU Say That I AM?

The Church was founded upon the Rock of Jesus Christ. Peter confessed who Jesus was in the flesh, the Son of God. However, look at what the Apostle Peter wrote in 2 Pet 1:1: “Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ.”

Look at what Thomas said when Jesus asked him to touch His hands and side: "My Lord [Kurios – Greek for Yehovah] and my God [Theos – Greek for Elohim]!" (see Ex 20:2-3)

What did the Apostle John have to say in 1 John 5:20 “And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.”

2 Cor 13:1 “In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.”

Furthermore, what does Rev 4:8 tell us? "Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God, the Almighty, who was and who is and who is to come." (see also Isa 6:3) Who is to come? Yeshua, the Lord! Indeed, He came unto His own, but His own received Him not (John 1:11). They didn't recognize Him and surely crucified Him. He is coming again, saints. This is why the Jews will mourn when they see Him coming in the clouds, for they will look upon the One whom they pierced (Rev 1:7-8; Zech 12:10).

Thy Kingdom Come

Who’s kingdom will reign forever? The kingdom of God! The prophet Daniel, by the Holy Spirit, told us in 2:4, “You continued looking until a stone was cut out without hands, and it struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and crushed them. Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were crushed all at the same time and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them was found. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.” This passage is speaking of kingdoms of man being shattered by the King of kings! His kingdom will reign forever.

If you want to follow the kings of this world; if you don’t believe Yeshua (which is from the Hebrew root of Yehowshua – YHWH Saves) is YHVH, ask yourself if you are studying to shew thyself approved. Do you know Him? God knows the intent of your heart. He desires that you know Him fully. What is more important that that? God is not the Author of confusion, but of peace (1 Cor 14:33). He is the Prince of Peace!

Isa 9:6 sums it up: “For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.”

Acts 4:12 “And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

Hos 13:4 tells us, “Yet I have been the LORD your God Since the land of Egypt; And you were not to know any god except Me, For there is no savior besides Me.”

I leave you with the Words of Jesus, Who is the TRUTH:

John 14:7-10 “from now on you know Him, and have seen Him…How can you say, 'Show us the Father’?

His name is Jesus, Yeshua, Immanuel, I AM.

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Judicastro 6 years ago from birmingham, Alabama

Great hub sister dear. Thanks for the hard work.


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Praise God, our Savior, Jesus Christ, sister Judicastro! He is LORD!!


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RevLady 6 years ago from Lantana, Florida

A great exposition Judah's Daughter as Jesus truly is offensive to tradition and habit.

Many, if not most, people do not like to see or hear things that conflict with their deeply held beliefs. The Jews response, as you pointed out, was to kill the Messenger.

Observations suggest that the more committed a person (or institution) is to an action or belief, the more resistance to information that threatens that belief, and the more there will be attempts to defend the long held beliefs. Some, in order to convince themselves that they are right or wise or knowledgeable, may go so far as to argue the credibility of clear evidence to the contrary.

"Jesus is the Rock of offense to those who would rather stick to their traditional teachings and habitual beliefs. The Jews were greatly offended by Jesus Christ’s teachings. If they are God’s chosen ones, why would the Word of God offend them? The Word became flesh and they crucified Him. Why? Because Jesus claimed to be God" AMEN! AMEN!

A great hub not only in terms of Jesus, the Rock of offense, but also a lesson in human behavior. Thanks for sharing.

Grace and peace,

Forever His,


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Outstanding, RevLady! We, as the children of God, proclaim the Word of God as Jesus did, as to His identity and His purpose for coming to us ~ to SAVE us! We will be hated on account of His Name, the name above all names! Those offended may attempt to kill the messengers, but we are not destroyed, which is their doom, the Word says (1 Pet 2:8). God richly bless you, sister!!


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heart4theword 6 years ago from hub

That song comes to mind..."On Christ The Solid Rock I Stand, all other ground is sinking sand!" Psalms 28:7 is one of my favorite verses, has helped me through many hard times:) Another thought provoking hub, His daughter!


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

I am thoroughly blessed, brother heart4theword. Yes, His house is built upon Him, the ROCK. 2 Sam 22:47 "The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock; And exalted be God, the rock of my salvation"!! Hallelujah!

I watched a wmv of a Muslim's testimony of salvation. He had an experience with Jesus. When he asked Him who He was, Jesus answered, "I am Jesus Christ, the living God"! WOW. This man is testifying all over the world to the glory our our LORD and Savior, Jesus Christ!

http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/testimonies/tes...

God bless you always, brother.


exjwlaurie 6 years ago

Beautiful job on this exquisite hub sister JD! And your timing is so perfect, I was just talking on the phone for 1 hour to an exjw about this very subject!

She and I have become friends and she has questions about God's name and personage. This hub came through as an e-mail to me from hubpages, just after I hung up with her! I am going to e-mail her with a link to this teaching, as you have summed it up so beautifully here!

As always, I learn and grow as I visit you hubsite my sister, you have blessed me once again! Praise God!


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fred allen 6 years ago from Myrtle Beach SC

I have had conversations with several Jehovahs witnesses over the years. They are very sincere in their faith and I believe many of them have actual saving faith. They shared with me their thoughts about the diety of Christ and I showed them many of the same scriptures you included in this wonderful hub. In the end at least most had questioned their dogmatic doctrine of Christ not being God in the flesh. I say many had saving faith because they understood clearly their need for salvation and the wages of sin. They knew that Christ had shed His blood to pay the debt of sin. They asked for and received forgiveness on the basis of His shed blood. And repented of their sin. While I know the doctrine of the Trinity is not stated as such in a specific verse and the word trinity is not mentioned in holy scripture, I believe it is clearly stated in the verses you mentioned and in many others. They told me after conversing with me that even though I am not part of their group, they believed my name was in the book of life. My point is that there are many differing views as far as correct doctrine is concerned. I don't believe any group can lay claim to infallible doctrine. Neither Baptist Methodist Presbyterian Interdenominational Nondenominational Holiness Charismatic nor any other can say we are the only ones that believe exactly right, our interpretation is flawless. I said that to say this, Jesus prayer in John 17 was that we would be one as He and the Father are one. I believe with you that Jesus was is and always will be fully God. If someone disagrees, I will first embrace them as brother as I gently instruct them. If we still disagree, fine. There is only one thing we must agree on, we are sinners, Christ came to save sinners, repent and believe. Love this hub. Sorry my response was so long.


SirDent 6 years ago

I only read a little bit of this hub and have to comment. The Catholics believe Peter to have been the first pope from what I understand. I can't believe how naïve they are. Have they actually read the Bible?

If you will recall, Paul and Peter had an argument over Peter not preaching to the gentiles when any Jews were nearby. He preached mainly to the Jews because he was afraid of being persecuted for preaching to gentiles.

Now my question would be this. Are Catholics really Jews in disguise?

Sorry, I just had to point that out for those who are interested.


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Tamarajo 6 years ago from Southern Minnesota

I haven't learned Greek yet so thank you for inserting the Yehovah Kurios notes. It is helpful. I wish the english translators would have used specifically the correct words. It helps the terms to not become generic in our understanding and sometimes changes the whole meaning and context of the verse.

We all need to be like the Berean's with every belief and doctrine and go to the scriptures and see if it agrees with what the scriptures say. Your hub does that very thing.

useful informative hub.


JeanieR 6 years ago

Great work!


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Praise God our Savior, Jesus Christ, sister Laurie! I am fully blessed to be a bondservant of and in His Name. Who are we that we are worthy of Him? In Him, we are worthy; He in us makes us worthy; amen! I pray this is a blessing to your friend that seeks, for when our LORD Jesus Christ brings understanding, there is no greater blessing in His love. You are such a strong and dedicated fellow bondservant, sister. I love you in His love ~ always!!


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hi brother fredallen! I so appreciate your comment and confirmation that you know Jesus is the LORD your God. What I've come to realize is that I will not use the terminology of 'trinity', for it is more of a stumbling block to the truth of God's identity. Tri means three, and the LORD God is One (literally, ONE).

It's a powerful and awesome thing that our Creator took on human flesh to die for our sins. There is no Savior besides Him. The Lord judges/discerns the intent of the heart, and He is merciful and full of grace to those who have simply been influenced in missing the mark. It grieves my heart when an innocent believer refers to Jesus and the Holy Spirit as brothers, yet would never refer to Jesus as God the Father. God is Spirit. The Spirit of God the Father and the Spirit of Christ are the same Spirit. There is no distinction. Truly, in the flesh, Jesus was our brother; in Spirit He is yet "I AM". When we see Jesus, the image of the invisible God, we shall behold Him! Hallelujah!!


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Brother, Sirkight Dent/Sir Dent ~ do you have two profiles? I was so blessed by your Hub, "Why do I call Him God" and thank you for allowing me to link it to this hub!

I'm sorry you didn't get to finish the hub. While Jesus is the Rock of offense to those who walk in error, those in error can be an offense to God and His children; amen. God searches the hearts of man; we sow and water the seed; the LORD gives the increase; amen.

If we look at John 21:15-17, Peter had a hard time loving Jesus as God. Surely, he acknowledged his brotherly love (as so many do) for our Lord in the flesh, in that he confessed Jesus as the Son of God (which was truth). Yet even after Jesus rose from the dead and appeared to Peter, He asked him, "Peter, do you agape Me?" Peter answered, "Yes, Lord; I phileo You". Two times Jesus asked this question using 'agape' (to love God) and two times Peter answered using 'phileo' (to love as a brother). Notice the third time Jesus asked Him this question, He changed it to agree with all that Peter could possibly understand at that time: "Peter, do you phileo Me?" This is His heart toward us.

Surely, Peter grew to realize what it was to love Jesus as God and Savior ~ as he wrote in 2 Pet 1:1, “Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ.” He knew what it was to then lay down his life for his faith.


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

JeanieR, thank you and may God richly edify your faith in Him! He loves you; He loves us so much we can't even fathom it. May His children fall more and more in love with the LORD, Jesus Christ. Hallelujah!


SirDent 6 years ago

Good hub and well done with explaining the orignal words in the Greek and translating them. I do have one problem about Textus Receptus. According to what IU have found out about it, it came well after the King James translation. According to the site bewlow it was first done in 1624. T%he King James translation was done in 1611.

http://www.biblicist.org/bible/receptus.shtml

My previous coment was only about Peter because that is where I stopped reading before.


johnnynaakea 6 years ago

Great word Judah's Daughter! Yes, we need to be discerning about false teaching. Keep up the good work!


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Brother Dent, I'm so glad you came back to get the blessing after the offense! lol I looked at your link, brother, and truly Elzevir did NOT translate the original Textus Receptus.

Erasmus’s first edition of the Textus Receptus was published in 1516, then another in 1519, after Aldus Manutius translated from it in 1518, with independent text. Erasmus then came out with a third edition in 1522, which contained the Johannine Comma. There were several more ‘revisions’ of the Textus Receptus since, from Stephanus (1551) to Theodore de Bèza (1519-1605) to Elzevir (1624), with minor changes in 1633, to the 1873 Oxford edition, which is no longer available. How many 'cooks were in this kitchen, anyhow?' These ‘trinity’ passages were never removed from any of them and made their way into the KJV (most likely translated from Beza and earlier versions), of course. Erasmus is the one who is to be held responsible.

I understand your frustration with the Peter, the rock, foundation of the Catholic church. Peter's not to blame, praise our Lord! It's the "infallable" Popes. I know the Catholic church has recanted some of its practices and I pray salvation (healing) comes to the leadership and those who follow them ~ that they may "see" as the Day of the Lord is coming quickly. Bless you always, brother Sir Dent!!


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

johnnynaakea, yes indeed, sister! I NEVER KNEW this stuff before. God knows, I ASK HIM questions all the time. I understood who He is, yet those passages were the ones quoted over and over again by 'trinitarians' that split God into three 'persons'; even that old Hymn "God in three persons; blessed trinity" was written by a Catholic, Reginald Heber, while he was Vicar of Hodnet in 1826. He wrote it for 'Trinity Sunday'. This hymn is yet repetitively sung by Catholics and Protestants alike to this day (indoctrination?).

As I said, God is the Father. God is the Son. God is the Holy Spirit. He is not a trinity. If someone asks me about this, I share the gospel instead of explain it using such a term! God is Spirit (John 4:24). His Spirit overshadowed the virgin Mary and begat God in the flesh (Mat 1:18). Yeshua was fully God and fully Man. He lived for 33 years in the flesh to die for our sins. His Spirit left His body and raised it from the dead (Luke 23:46; John 2:19). The Spirit of God will also raise us (Rom 8:11)! Because of His sacrifice, we can now be filled with His Spirit (Acts 2) and have fellowship with Him as it was in the beginning (Col 3:11). He is King of kings and Lord of lords (Deut 10:17/Rev 19:16)! He lives and He is coming again (Mat 28:26; Acts 1:11)!

The Lord is faithful to answer us when we call on Him. His Spirit will reveal TRUTH and show us things to come (John 16:13). Boy, did I get on a roll there! God bless you!!!


SirDent 6 years ago

I am not frustrated with Peter the rock and all that jazz. I wasmerely trying to point out how the Catholic hurch is wrong calling him the first Pope.


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

AMEN. I know how you feel, brother! My comment about it not being Peter's fault was more of a subjective thought, not meant to be directed at you ~ I'm sorry if it came across that way :-) I know you are as frustrated/offended as I and so many others that the Catholic church holds to this belief. May they be set free. It's not too late for repentance!!


mscheryl59 6 years ago

Sister: I've been a believer and following of God for a long time. Although, I have a hard time wrapping my mind around the infinite things of God, I realize our Bible was translated by someone who I pray was led by the Holy Spirit. I chase down the scriptures to make sure what I'm told is so. My question: in your opinion, what's the most careful translation of God's word?


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hi mscheryl59 ~ I've been TOLD it's the KJV. However, I prefer the New American Standard, as it inserts the actual Hebrew/Greek words and meanings in most cases (i.e. Sheol, Hades and Geenna - though it doesn't insert Tartaros - for what the KJV lumps all together in the single word "hell"). I have the International Inductive Study Bible, and I trust it more than the KJV.

What's happened is we can't completely trust the English translation of the Bible as it's written. It takes what I call "panning for God" (as in panning for gold).

There are tools out there, such as a Hebrew/Greek Concordance (the Strongs is aligned with the type-set of the KJV), even a Bible dictionary, too, so you can look up the original meanings of words to better understand verses better, thus chapters. With cross-referencing other verses and passages, one can get a clearer picture. When one studies with the original Hebrew/Greek language, the Bible will not contradict itself (which is a beautiful thing)!!

What contaminates the Bible is interpretations (even of the insertions done by Erasmus) that are taught by man, based on what is written in English, rather than what the original languages say. Some pastors and their followers just stick to traditional (oral) teachings and don't study for themselves. This makes all of them vulnerable to incorrect doctrine, confusion and an inability to grow in faith.

I think this is why Paul told Timothy to "STUDY to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that need not be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth" (2 Tim 2:15). We've never had a Bible written in English that was taken directly from the original Hebrew and Greek, not influenced by Catholicism!

I have a hub called "How to do an Inductive Bible Study" that I pray helps people know where to begin. There's a table set for us in the beautiful word of God. Whenever I have a question, the Lord is faithful to show me. His grace is sufficient as we search, study, ask, ponder and receive!!

Here's a link to my hub on Bible study, sister: http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/How-to-do-... God be praised!! Bless you!!


Royal Diadem 6 years ago

You are growing spiritually and so is James I can see a change in both of the two of you and it is good and wonderful. Great hub!


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hi sister Royal :-) We are all growing (or should be!), and it's encouraging, isn't it? I always say, if you're stuck in your ways, you'll stagnate. Oh, that His Rain fall down upon us and fill us to overflow, that we grow and grow and grow! Are you speaking of James Watkins? What a brother he is! God is just so good!! God bless you, sister!! You are a blessing!!


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hanging out 6 years ago

The scriptures are not broken. There is no new thing under the sun. That which was prophesied is not new. By two or three witnesses, yes! and lucifer cannot be a doctrine because lucifer is only mentioned once and once is not enough.


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hi hanging out! Actually, Lucifer was not mentioned AT ALL in the original text. This proper name was inserted and is Latin in the midst of Hebrew. The translation of that one verse (Isaiah 14:12) is "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!" Therefore, the doctrine of "Lucifer" would never have been, if it weren't for this alteration to the Word of God.

Isaiah 14 is speaking of the king of Babylon; prophetically the king of end-time Babylon (the Antichrist). In my hubs "Is Lucifer the Devil?" and "Lucifer: the spirit of Antichrist", the name of this fallen angel appears to be Abaddon/Apollyon. He may have once been A star of the morning, but he is NOT THE MORNING STAR, which is Jesus Christ (Rev 22:16).

God bless you!! I so appreciate your enthusiasm for the Word of truth.


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Michael Adams1959 6 years ago from Wherever God leads us.

Beautiful, awesome, useful, and up what a great hub you knocked it out on this one Praise God for your willingness to follow what the Lord God puts on your heart.


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hi dear brother, Michael!! Thank you, and all glory to the Lord! All I have comes from Him, as I don't know to share a thing unless He first enlightens me and moves me to write ~ He knows the hearts of the readers, and those who seek to know Him. I pray this Word roots deeply into the 'spiritual man' of the called, the chosen and faithful (Rev 17:14)!! I thank our Lord for you, brother! Much love and blessings!!


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Disappearinghead 6 years ago from Wales, UK

Hi JD. I voted this one up. What I've always found a little odd is that Jesus didn't explicitly state He was God, but only aluded to it, and talked continually about His Father. Thanks for all the references tying together Rock and Saviour which make it pretty clear He is God.

You didn't explore the Holy Spirit here though. My understanding is that the Holy Spirit is not a separate God entity independent of thought and deed from the Father and Jesus as many suppose according to the Trintiy doctrine, but the Holy Spirit is actually God Himself in the sense of His Earthly manifestation of power. Jesus said that He and the Father will make their home in us, that being by His Spirit, His presence.

So we have one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ who is God come in the flesh, but the Holy Spirit is not some third part of the Godhead.


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Yes, and amen, Disappearinghead. The Holy Spirit is God, for God is Spirit and God is Holy. He is God. The Spirit of God and Spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit. He is only ONE God. I go into this more in my hubs, "Let Me Tell You WHO GOD IS!" and even explained more in "GOD: Let Us Make Man in Our Image?", as well as "THREE That Bear Record? (Mat 28:19 and 1 John 5:7)". I do not believe in a 'trinity' or plural God. I believe in the First Commandment and take it literally. Spirit became flesh (image and form of God) Who is the same now (Jesus is the image and form of God). To see the Father is to see Jesus. Period. Even the word 'Godhead' means 'Deity', not three or two gods. God bless you!!


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Ms Dee 5 years ago from Texas, USA

You teach this beautifully! It shines God's Word into my heart :) Yes, in my previous Bible translation work we stayed away from the Textus Receptus because it has a number of problems in it and there are more reliable Greek sources now. So glad you are making these points known to fight against the confusion and unbelief!


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hi Ms Dee! So glad you came to read and nothing blesses my heart more than to "shine God's Word into your heart" ~ Hallelujah! Thank you for sharing that you've had some confirmating education regarding the Textus Receptus. The only way I found out is by asking God ~ because some things just didn't 'line up' ~ those very things stood out like a sore thumb. Jesus did say there would be tares sown among the wheat, and if the 'Seed' is the Word, what has been planted and can it be weeded by the power of the Holy Spirit? Absolutely. Praise God and God bless you!!


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

My goodness! Sister Tamarajo ~ I just realized (here it's been four months) that I never responded to your awesome comment. Yes, finding the word for 'Lord' in those verses really was an 'eye'-opener, a confirmation of the fact that Jesus is God, the Great "I AM". I, too, wish we had a more accurate translation of the Bible ~ however, I wonder if God didn't intend it to be this way, for only those who 'dig' or 'pan' for this 'gold' will find Him. His wisdom is certainly perfect. Please forgive me for missing responding to you. I love you in His love, sister ~ JD


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Ms Dee 5 years ago from Texas, USA

Blood and flesh did not reveal this to you, but the very Spirit of God :) (No problem, I don't think you missed any of my comments - you respond to every one, and I love it! :)


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

I laugh with joy ~ it's always so neat to share in His love and light with you, sister Dee!!! HUGSSSS


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Dave Mathews 5 years ago from NORTH YORK,ONTARIO,CANADA

Judah's Daughter: Truly I am enlightened with this teaching. It is definitely a true blessing to find such a knowedgable sister as you that I can turn to to clarify scripture when I am not clear. Tahnk God for placing you on my path to Him.


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Awe, brother Dave ~ praise God, our Rock and Redeemer! He has delivered you out of the darkness and you have entered into His marvelous LIGHT!! It is a true blessing to be a fellow sheep in the pasture of our Shepherd, Jesus Christ. I will walk beside you and will be here for you anytime!! Our Lord is so good!!


PAMITCHRUS 5 years ago

Aye you too have stubbed your toe upon that rock yet know it not, for you have denied the testimony God has concerning his Son.. and have turned the Grace of God into a license to sin. Oh my the wages of sin is life you say.. just like your father said back in that day.. Repent while there is still time !!!!


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Well PAMITCHRUS, how about telling me who YOU think Jesus is? Do you think Jesus is God? How about the Holy Spirit? Who is He? I've turned the grace of God into a license to sin? Please present your case to support such an accusation. If I denied the person of God in His Son I would need to repent, but I do not see a need to repent of believing what is clearly shown in His Word. You're a Universalist (believing ALL will be saved), right? (I believe we've had conversations before).


PAMITCHRUS 5 years ago

You say the wages of sin is life according to your doctrine of demons and devils.. My Father who sent his Son, the word, the Lamb who took away the sins, the death, of the world, that word which would not fail, that word was sent to destroy the works of the devil not add to them as you say he will do.. Have you not read that he who shows no mercy will receive no mercy ? therefore according to your teaching the Father will have to punish his Holy Son with no mercy being that according to you the Son will show no mercy to the majority of his creation.. Burning them in an endless fire with pain and suffering.. Do you understand this simple truth ?? Oh my say the children of the livng God, she knows the difference between right and left yet is confused between love and hate.. Teaching lies having her concience seared as with a hot iron. Know ye not the the doctrine of hell is an abomination,an dessecration of my Fathers Holy name ?? Know ye not that what measure of judgement you use shall be used against you ?? He who shows no mercy will receive no mercy.. I have seen your end therefore repent of your evil doctrine of hell..least you continue to be counted among the synagogue of Satan thinking yourself to be among the wise yet not knowing even the most basic of truths.. Repent for you are both decieved and decieving others with this doctrine of hell, an outright slap in the face to the Holy name of both Father and Son.. I,Pamitchrus, have seen him and in him is no darkness at all..My God is above sin yet you accuse him and the Son of an evil thing.. Again I have seen your end.. Repent of this evil teaching.. It would be far better for you to teach lessons on baking cakes than to continue to profane the Name of our Holy God.. Shelah..


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hi PAMITCHRUS, I say the wages of sin is life? That's a Universalist teaching ~ that all will saved, even Satan and his fallen angels. Sin = Life. That is not my message, nor the message of the Bible.

I'm sorry we both interpret God's Word differently, in that you are greatly offended. Jesus said He would be a Rock of Offense to some, and I suppose this would include you. I am not offended by the Truth, which includes judgment to a place called 'Sheol/Hades' and 'Geenna' (or Gehenna). If these things were not clearly stated in the Word, I wouldn't believe it. You have chosen to believe what is more comforting to you; the truth is not always comforting ~ for this reason, the prophets were hated and Jesus was crucified by those who claimed to love God.

I love you in the love the LORD, and I understand where you're coming from. You know I have conversed with Universalists now for years. Thanks for coming to read, and I hope we can continue to seek the Truth, the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth, so help us God.


PAMITCHRUS 5 years ago

Aye so be it .. Catch up with you later you who says the wages of sin is life(eternal torture) Think on this and perhaps you will yet receive light !!! Oh how I wish you could see, and one day you will in this I will take my comfort.. Good bye for now and my how heavy a burden that concordance shall be for you one day. Even now my heart is torn for you.. I am.


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

I think what you are implying, when you say I believe the wages of sin is 'life' (eternal torture) is that those who are sent to Geenna (Gehenna) are alive forever in that state. Yes, that's what I believe the Word states clearly. You also believe souls are alive in the Lake of Fire, but will be purified by it, and once their sin is atoned for by this punishment, they will be delivered unto everlasting life with Christ. See, that is a different gospel, for there is no way we can 'pay' for our sin. If this were the payment, there would have been no need for the shed blood of Jesus, our God and Savior. One way = faith in Jesus Christ; not that way and another, too. Cults teach salvation by deeds; that is another gospel, which Paul warns us about in Galatians 1:9 "As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be 'temporarily' condemned!" Ooops ~ that's NOT what he said. He said "ETERNALLY CONDEMNED". Thank you for your burden for me, for that tells me you have genuine love in your heart. I appreciate that and recognize it. I have the same for you, dear PAMITCHRUS. Let's continue to pray for the Truth and that we accept it as it is written.

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