Remember the Sabbath Day: Saturday, Sunday or Everyday?

What DAY Is the Sabbath?

There is so much controversy out there about the fourth commandment: “Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy [sanctified; set apart]”. Some staunchly believe the seventh-day Sabbath was NEVER changed by God; others argue we have a new Sabbath Day, Sunday. Yet, many say it doesn’t matter whether one observes the Sabbath on Saturday, Sunday or everyday. If the Sabbath means we are to cease from our labor, how can one observe the Sabbath every day? We would never be able to work. Are answers given in the Bible as to what the Sabbath is, when it should be observed, its purpose and meaning? Let’s explore these questions as we journey through the Bible.

Seventh-Day Sabbath

As we know the first Sabbath rest was when God rested on the seventh day of creation. Gen 2:2 states, “By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.”

However, we don’t see a command come from God for man to rest on the seventh day until His holy commandments were given to Moses on Mt.Sinai in approximately 1513 BC. Considering mankind had been on the earth for 2500 years, why were the Jews not already resting on the seventh day, if it had been ordained as a practice for mankind since the creation? One certain reason is that they were not allowed to rest on any day while enslaved in Egypt for 400 years.

Moses was the first type of ‘mediator’ between God and man, as he was chosen to give the first official written Law to Israel (Gal 3:19). This was AFTER they were set free from Egypt. Now, not everyone were Jews in those days. The tribes enslaved in Egypt were those of Jacob. Remember, it was Joseph, the firstborn son of Rachel to Jacob, that opened the doors of Egypt to his family. This included the families (or tribes) of the ten sons of Leah and the two sons (himself and his younger brother, Benjamin) of Rachel. Jesus explained in Mark 2:27 that "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.” It was God’s gift to the Israelites as a day of rest, since they had no such gift while enslaved in Egypt.

Gal 3:19 "Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions, having been ordained through angels by the agency of a mediator [Moses], until the seed [Jesus] would come to whom the promise had been made."
Gal 3:19 "Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions, having been ordained through angels by the agency of a mediator [Moses], until the seed [Jesus] would come to whom the promise had been made."

A Shadow of the Real Sabbath to Come

Now, let’s first consider that the Law given to Moses was added because of transgressions and was to act as a tutor to lead them to Christ, their Messiah. Gal 3:24 states, “Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith.” Truly, the father of faith is considered to be Abraham, one who never had the Law of Moses during his lifetime. The Law of Moses is also considered to be a shadow of things to come. Heb 10:1 states, “For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things, can never, by the same sacrifices which they offer continually year by year, make perfect those who draw near.”

The Apostle Paul said to the Colossians, who were saved Gentiles, in 2:16-17, “Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day – things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.

Why would Paul say such things? Keep in mind the very Jews that observed the seventh-day Sabbath religiously, even to the point of accusing Jesus and His disciples of breaking the laws of the Sabbath Day (Mat 12:10; 15:1-9; Mark 3:2; 7:1-13; Luke 6:2; John 5:17-18; 7:19 and more…), put Jesus on the cross. Obviously, they missed something very important. Some Jews today say that the only “law” to really keep on the seventh-day Sabbath is that one is not to work to earn money from Friday sundown until Saturday sundown. Well, think about it. Most of the world’s time-clocks cease from their labor at Friday sundown. Is the majority of the world keeping this Sabbath law? Are they justified by it? Absolutely not. This goes to show that keeping the Sabbath is a matter of the heart.

The point is, did keeping the seventh-day Sabbath keep those who observed it in God’s favor (grace)? Earlier we read that the Law was the tutor to lead us to Christ, so as to be justified by faith, not the Law. Paul tells us in Gal 2:19, “nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.” Galatia had a combination of Jews and saved Gentiles. This is where Paul withstood Peter to the face for getting pulled back into the Law of Moses (i.e. not to eat with Gentiles), when he was supposed to be sharing the gospel of salvation by grace through faith with them!

John 10:28 "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me"
John 10:28 "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me"

The Sabbath Revealed

So, what was the seventh-day Sabbath a shadow of? Why is it that those who kept the literal seventh-day Sabbath did not enter the true Sabbath rest of God? A Jew won’t understand the second question. The answer is found in Hebrews 4:1-10:

"Therefore, let us fear if, while a promise remains of entering His rest, any one of you may seem to have come short of it. For indeed we have had good news preached to us, just as they also; but the word they heard did not profit them, because it was not united by faith in those who heard. For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said, ‘AS I SWORE IN MY WRATH, THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST,’ although His works were finished from the foundation of the world.

"For He has said somewhere concerning the seventh day: 'AND GOD RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY FROM ALL HIS WORKS'; and again in this passage, 'THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST.' Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience, He again fixes a certain day, 'Today,' saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before, 'TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE, DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS.' For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that.

"So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His."

First-Day Sabbath

Why do so many Christians observe the ‘Sabbath’ on Sunday? All we have to do is look up the phrase, “first day of the week” in the Bible to see what significant things took place on Sundays.

Mat 28:1-2 “Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave. And behold, a severe earthquake had occurred, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled away the stone and sat upon it.” Read on to verses 6-7 “He is not here, for He has risen, just as He said. Come, see the place where He was lying. Go quickly and tell His disciples that He has risen from the dead; and behold, He is going ahead of you into Galilee, there you will see Him; behold, I have told you." Truly, the first gospel was preached on a Sunday! (Mark 16:2-7; Luke 24:1-9)

Mark 16:9 confirms: “Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.” (John 20:1-16)

If you read John 20:1-16 (referenced above), go on to verse 19: “So when it was evening on that day, the first day of the week, and when the doors were shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in their midst and said to them, "Peace be with you." This is when Jesus breathed the Holy Spirit upon His disciples. Now, Thomas wasn’t there at the time. Verses 26-29 tell us that eight days later (the first day of the week), Jesus appeared again to the disciples, along with Thomas. Both times the doors to the room were locked, for fear of the Jews.

Speaking of the breathing of the Holy Spirit upon the disciples on the first day of the week, we should also observe the Day of Pentecost occurred on the first day of the week. For outstanding proof of this fact, I invite you to read the linked article here called, “Pentecost in Acts 2:1 was the first day of the Week (Sunday)”.

John 20 showed us the disciples and others met together at least twice on the first day of the week. Did this practice continue? Look at Acts 10:17: “On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to leave the next day, and he prolonged his message until midnight.”

We also see in 1 Cor 16:2 Paul telling the Church in Corinth, “Upon the first [day] of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as [God] hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.”

Everyday Sabbath

Does observing the Sabbath Day on Saturday or Sunday really matter? Biblically, there are heart-felt reasons to observe either day. Or, does the Sabbath hold more meaning of spiritual rest in Christ than the day it is observed? The Apostle Paul addressed this in Rom 14:5: “One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.” The most important thing to remember is, if the Jews did not enter the Lord’s Sabbath rest by religiously keeping the seventh-day, is there an assurance of entering that rest by observing Sunday? Sounds a bit trivial, once you understand what it means to "enter His rest". Let His Sabbath rest reign in your hearts. The Sabbath was made for man. For this reason, Jesus is called “Lord of the Sabbath” (Mat 12:8; Mark 2:28; Luke 6:5). Jesus said in Mat 11:28, “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.” Rest in His completed works. Rest in His salvation and love.

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DiamondRN 5 years ago from Charlotte, NC USA

You did a very good job on a very touchy subject, JD.


johnnynaakea 5 years ago

Good job! Very clearly presented. Blessings.


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

I'm thankful to both of you, DiamondRN and jonnynaakea, for your encouragement. I'm glad this brings glory to the Lord, the Lord of the Sabbath; our rest is in Him. God bless you both!!


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einron 5 years ago from Toronto, Ontario, CANADA

Judah's Daughter

You Wrote:

Well, think about it. Most of the world’s time-clocks cease from their labor at Friday sundown. Is the majority of the world keeping this Sabbath law? Are they justified by it? Absolutely not. This goes to show that keeping the Sabbath is a matter of the heart

Answer:

God does not judge a man's action by the 'majority'. Each man is judged by his own actions.

The world turns round on its axis and sundown in Toronto is different from sundown in Vancouver (by approx. 3 hours later). Peace!


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hi einron, of course you know I was being sarchastic. It boils down to 'technicality'. It's obvious the laws of the Sabbath, made by the Rabbis of Jesus' day, were so cumbersome they even accused the Lord of the Sabbath of breaking His own Sabbath!

Of course, God doesn't judge a man's actions by the majority. In fact, the majority are going down the broad way that leads to destruction (Mat 7:13), including those who hold so much faith in keeping the seventh-day or first-day Sabbath, while missing the revelation of it.

A 'shadow' means something in the physical realm reflects something in the spiritual realm. When we get so focused on the physical and neglect embracing the spiritual meaning, we are missing the mark ~ just as the Jews did (those who observed the physical Sabbath, yet did not enter His rest). Be blessed ~~


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Vladimir Uhri 5 years ago from HubPages, FB

quote:

As we know the first Sabbath rest was when God rested on the seventh day of creation. Gen 2:2 states, “By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.”

absolutely correct. Thanks.


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Yes, God rested from all His work which He had done. And so it is now, through Christ Jesus. Blessings ~~


ladyt11 5 years ago

Another thought provoking hub! Its funny how we can make such a debate on the word of God that causes division when all we have to do is search the scriptures. That's why I love your hubs so much Judah, anothre great job!


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allpurposeguru 5 years ago from North Carolina

IIRC, the fourth commandment is the only one not explicitly restated in the New Testament. That certainly makes sense if we are supposed to be at rest in the Lord all the time. Even those of us who have that understanding of the sabbath have a hard time living that way consistently. Thanks for the reminder.


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RevLady 5 years ago from Lantana, Florida

A woman after my own heart,

A wonderful hub with supporting biblical truths to not be argued. Great explanation JD. Excellent presentation. Thank you.

Love, peace and joy in Him who is Lord of the Sabbath!

Forever His,


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Tamarajo 5 years ago from Southern Minnesota

This has been a questionable topic for me for quite some time.

I find the whole Saturday Sunday argument strange considering the reason why God numbered the days rather than named them was because the religious calendar was based on moon cycles. If we were to celebrate a true biblical sabbath we would have to do the same by counting 7days from new moons which would end up falling on random days of the Gregorian calendar which we now use.

I do however find it beneficial to follow biblical celebrations and observances sometimes not as a religious obligation but an educational experience and by doing so find that I understand Him better by doing so.

for instance in having a day of rest I discover that I must trust that God is the one who gives me success rather than my working on life 7 days a week. I acknowledge Him as the creator and sustainer of all things in my life and the planet and my job is to learn to trust Him. (rest) spending a day of concentrated focus on Him helps in this process.

I know my salvation doesn't hinge upon these observances but find much benefit in them.

I do find it fascinating that observing the sabbath is one of the 10 Commandments. I understand that Christ fulfilled the law but I do sometimes wonder why we are expected to practice living according to these ways in life such as having no other gods and not killing people but that one seems to be one we say Christ fulfilled so we don't do it.

As you can see I am still sorting and filing with this topic.

At present I don't follow a religious calendar sabbath but I do spend one day a week in rest and focused on Him.


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Wow, what a blessing to come home to my dear brothers and sisters in Christ's comments! ladyt11, you are such a blessing to my heart ~~ over the past year and a half on HubPages, I've read so many differing views on the Sabbath day and have had many ask me this question. I pondered it in my heart and in my spirit before God...and recently, He led me to Hebrews 4:1-10 which placed all the seventh- and first-day pieces together. Thus, this hub is the result. He is so faithful!! He is pleased with those whose hearts and minds are stayed on Him and whatever they do is unto the Lord, a form of worship and love...not a matter of religion and self-righteousness. Hallelujah!! Love you bunches, sister!!


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Brother allpurposeguru, you make such a valid point! Jesus quoted the commandments over and over again in the gospels, and not once mentioned the Sabbath. That is an important observation, considering what Hebrew 4:1-10 reveals to us. I thank God His Word has answers to unite believers, rather than divide them. He is our Head, our Lord, our Husband, our Savior, our God. He is LORD of the Sabbath rest ~ AMEN!!


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

My dear sister RevLady ~ I am soooo blessed we are women after the heart of God, which makes us ONE in Him!! I just love you so much. His beautiful message flows through you; through all who empty themselves unto receiving of His great love and revelation. Oh, to rest in Him is our heart's desire. What a blessed rest it is. Thank you, and God bless you always ~~


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

And, my beautiful sister Tamarajo!! Your heart pants for God, and God knows your heart (Ps 42:1). Even I would love to do study on the festivals/feasts, and even participate in celebrating them, as Jesus fulfilled all but three of them...yet to come. It's so good to set apart (sanctify) time with our Lord. If we forget to eat, we die. He is the bread of life (John 6:48, 35), the living water (John 4:11-13). Deut 8:3 comes to mind: "He humbled you, causing you to hunger and then feeding you with manna, which neither you nor your fathers had known, to teach you that man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of the LORD." This had to do with the Sabbath rest, way back when it was gifted to Israel. Thank you for sharing.


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A M Werner 5 years ago from West Allis

JD, I believe that when Christ told us that those born of the Spirit are led by the Spirit, the stationary law of rooting our worship into a mandated time and place was lifted. We are free to worship Him and do His work anytime and any place - anywhere He sets it in front of us to do. The world is a busy beehive and planning time to worship the Creator fits into the will of that world. By saying the Creator's will takes precedent over everything else, we announce that the beehive will not prevent us from doing worship and service when He calls us, even if and when it negatively effects our lives in the hive. Peace.


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pastor sam barr 5 years ago from U.K

Amen, good expression of a big contraversiol issue, yet in Christ it becomes quite simple, Prov 3v5-6 Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, but in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will make straight your paths. That is what the LORD does when we trust (have faith) in Him. The LORD bless you.


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hi, A M Werner!! So nice to see you :-) I love what you said, "I believe that when Christ told us that those born of the Spirit are led by the Spirit, the stationary law of rooting our worship into a mandated time and place was lifted. We are free to worship Him and do His work anytime and any place - anywhere He sets it in front of us to do."

You know, the staunch "Law-keepers" sometimes think that this 'freedom in Christ' represents "lawlessness", but again, this is constrictive thinking. We either walk in the shadow or turn around and walk in the Light. While there is freedom in Christ, we are as the forefathers of faith, before the Law was ever given, in that we affect Who He says, do What He says, go Where He says, When He says ~ and Why? Because He says. The religiosity of the 'Law' that becomes a restrictor to the law of the Holy Spirit, has been loosed; praise God!! It is stated so much better in Rom 8:12 "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death."

Good word!! Bless you!!


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Nice to meet you, pastor sam barr! Good word again! I'm so glad you came by and shined the Light of His Word into our hearts and minds, in that this is the walk of faith ~ to seek first His kingdom and HIS righteousness (for we have none in and of ourselves by our works, lest any man should boast - Eph 2:8-9), and lean into Him, trust Him and obey whatever He tells us to. While the Law is one of physical sacrifice(s), He says 'obedience is BETTER than sacrifice' ~ not obedience to the carnal, but obedience to the spiritual (1 Sam 15:22). He that the Son has set free is free indeed! (John 8:36) God bless you mightily!


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aguasilver 5 years ago from Malaga, Spain

I agree, well presented and clear, well done JD... it's good to live in the Sabbath Rest.

John


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hi brother John! I am so blessed you came to read and agree! It is a wonderful place in the rest of our Lord. In every adversity, when we abide in Him and His Word in us, we know He has the reigns and will direct our every step as ordained. Jeremiah 29:11 is one of my favorite verses. He is true and proven true. What greater rest is there? Praise God! God bless you. Thank you so much.


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drpastorcarlotta 5 years ago from BREAKOUT MINISTRIES, INC. KC

GREAT HUB my Judah's Daughter! Scriptures don't lie! AMEN! Very useful and awesome Hub, which I voted both!


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

MY SISTAH, DRPASTORCARLOTTA!! Thank you! Praise God He's given us His Word to study and ponder and then wait upon Him for the revelation...for the answers are there!! PEACE comes when we can rest in the Word, the Living Word of Jesus Christ, our LORD!! AMEN, indeed!!! Luv U always, and keep on pressing on in His anointing!!


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christ4ever 5 years ago from a life in sin saved by the Lord's grace - we are blessed with the ministry in Florida & Georgia

Almost settled in from the move and computer went down...ack! I guess my post never made it--So I will repeat, fantastic job once again!

I linked your article above into Brother Dave's original question and will update my links when it settles here.

with blessings

Rev.Ted


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hi brother Ted! Yes, I didn't know you had sent another post, but I'm glad you're back! It's good you got moved and I pray your computer stays alive to help you in your good work for the Lord! Yes, I believe I responded to brother Dave with Heb 4:1-10, which pretty much sums up what the Sabbath is ~ its spiritual meaning, rather than its literal one, for it is in Christ alone.

I did read your two hubs on the Sabbath. Your second one is really awesome, providing links to the varying hubs out here on HP about the topic. It surely is highly debated, and yet I feel, if people understood Heb 4:1-10, enlightenment and true rest would come.

Thank you so much for your edification in the Lord. God bless you!!


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Abrushing1968 5 years ago from USA- Florida

Hey JD:

Good work here. Shockingly I have nothing to add. You were very thorough. Just want to stop by and say keep up the good work.

ABR


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hi brother!! Bless your heart. I just appreciate you coming to read and bless me, as you do!! We bless the Lord, for He is so good to have foreseen all the things we encounter and has provided the answers to keep us in His beloved Truth. Stay blessed and anointed in Jesus!!


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afro's mistake 5 years ago from dorothys kansas

you did a great job on this subject of sabbath. im glad your never dogmatic and yet still are able compassionately teach people about the word of God. the lord is doing great things in your life, That i can tell.


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hey, my bro! So good to hear from you, and thank you so much for your kindness. I'm thankful YOU see God doing great things in my life, for if I wasn't growing more into the image of our Lord, I would be stinky stagant...no, thank you! God has all kinds of fascets to His character ~ some 'dogmatic', or I'd rather say, 'godmatic', some full of wisdom, mercy, compassion, grace ~ and yes, even judgment. There is none like Him!! Blessed to hear from you, my brother. God bless you always ~ JD


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fred allen 5 years ago from Myrtle Beach SC

Great hub. It got me to thinking about something. Out of all the commandments, this is the one that gets the least attention. I'm with you on this. The sabbath was made for man. That we could rest from our labor one day a week and devote the day to enjoying our lives in the presence of God. Church is on Sunday. I'm off work on Sunday. As you said it was on a Sunday that the gospel was first preached and on a Sunday where the Holy Spirit was given. Great write up!


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

You know, brother fred allen, I was reading in Exodus 12 the other day and came across the first pasach (pass over). I'm quoting from the Complete Jewish Bible, verses 14-16:

"This will be a day for you to remember and celebrate as a festival to ADONAI, from generation to generation you are to celebrate it by a perpetual regulation. For seven days you are to eat matzah [unleavened bread] - on the first day remove the leaven from your houses. For whoever eats hametz [leavened bread] from the first to the seventh day is to be cut off from Israel. ON THE FIRST AND SEVENTH DAYS, YOU ARE TO HAVE AN ASSEMBLY SET ASIDE FOR GOD."

Now, we know Jesus is the One who removed the leaven [sin] from our lives (1 Cor 5:6-7), and He is the bread of life (John 6:35-51). Isn't it interesting that He wanted them to have an assembly set aside on the first and seventh days? Wow.


His daughter 5 years ago

Very well written and much to contemplate. As you wrote about the Jewish people not celebrating the Sabbath (or told to) until after they came out of Egypt, I thought, "Now there is a reason to celebrate the Sabbath...that Sabbath rest from all that held us in "Egypt." That in itself is reason to not forget, recognize and give thanks for. The recognition of a Sabbath's rest sure does renew and revive us and for that I am grateful for as well. God bless.


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Thank you for your inspirational comment, His Daughter. I really hope the saints (and those still under the veil) don't miss the message in this hub (the message in Heb 4:4-10). It's no longer about a literal day, but the rest we have in the completed works of Christ Jesus. It's a spiritual rest the Lord is talking about, not the physical. What you said about our being delivered from spiritual 'Egypt' is on the mark. Likewise, our deliverance through Christ by receiving His salvation by grace through faith allows us to enter His Sabbath rest ~ resting in His completed works. Praise God ~


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Disappearinghead 5 years ago from Wales, UK

I've never understood why many in the church get all hung up about it or why they wish to get all legalistic and attempt to control what people can or cannot do on a Sunday. We have been redeemed from slavish obedience to law. Why get worked up over whether the sabbath is a Sunday or a Saturday? They are just arbitrary names given to each day.


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

DH, yes ~ the getting hung up on the Day is obviously what we're exhorted about in Hebrews 4. It causes a great division, which is of the carnal nature, rather than understanding the spiritual significance. I appreciate your comment. God bless.


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Marliza Gunter 5 years ago from South Africa

Judah..I soo like the way you always bring all the scriptures together and linking them to form one whole picture.. :)


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Thank you, Marliza! I can't take the credit, however, for God takes all the time needed to 'feed' me over time and put it all together for me first ~ lol ~ oh, He is good! Just as your experiences you write about are directly from the Holy Spirit; what a JOY to reveal the Lord's teaching to those who will receive it. God bless you!!


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Deborah Demander 5 years ago from First Wyoming, then THE WORLD

You handle this complex and controversial subject well. I think you sum it up nicely at the end. We keep the Sabbath in our hearts, seeking Christ, who will give us rest.

Namaste.


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Thank you, Deborah ~ I appreciate your kind words and even more that you also receive the Sabbath rest in Christ Jesus. God bless you!!


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kashmir56 5 years ago from Massachusetts

Wonderful hub and so very well written! You can never go wrong if you live in God's truth!

Awesome hub Judah's Daughter.....Thumbs up!!!


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Thank you, kashmir56!! It gives me joy to give others joy in what they read and receive of the Lord's Word ~ and if I have joy, I can only imagine the joy in the heart of the Lord Jesus Christ! Praise Him for what He's done for us. What great love!! Continue in His Sabbath rest, and be blessed!!


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PoweroftheCross 5 years ago from Above and Beyond...

You said it all in one sentence which is always my point. If the Jews could not keep law, how then, will we do better??Laws? If we keep one, then we must keep all. Ooops!Back into bondage and making the cross of no effect. Great Hub!


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Beautifully said, PoweroftheCross (love your name)! I feel the Word makes the point that the purpose of the Law was to lead us to Christ, in that the very fact no one COULD keep the Law, created the NEED for the redemptive power of the Savior. Even now, not being able to keep the Law keeps us forever humble and reliant upon the saving power of the cross. Even the literal seventh-day Sabbath was not one of 'doing' anything, but of 'not doing' anything. Rest. The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. May we find our rest by faith in the Lord of the Sabbath, our Savior, Jesus Christ.


Steve 4 years ago

My friends, Our Lord and Savor said, He who is without sin cast the first stone, Christ showed mercy to the women, for He was without sin and did not accuse but commanded her to sin no more. This is the grace of God working in us toward righteousness.

I ask some questions why did Jesus kept the Commandments of God, was it because He wanted to be righteous, or the His love the Father. I ask again did the law come before salvation for the death angel in Egypt or after. So does salvation from sin comes before we can be in the Father presents that we my live in Christ unto righteousness. I ask on more questions, the Sabbath day is it a Holy Day made by man or by God. Please one more, if you abide in Christ would Jesus the Son of Man, the King of the Jews, teach you to break the Commandments of God. In your own words and not yours but Jesus, do you by your commandments, doctrines and traditions brake the commands of God and if so do you sin that grace should abound? Why would I, because of my Love for Christ and the Mercy of God, obey the Commands of God and not man, for in me Christ strengthens me, be counted a sinner, against the grace of God, the Cross-. Did not Paul state should we continue in sin, God forbid for we died to sin in Christ, Jesus unto righteousness, not the righteousness that is from the work of the law, but by the Spirit that teaches and does not teach against the Word of God.


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Judah's Daughter 4 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Beautifully said, Steve. What an awesome question and for those who know the answer, what an awesome answer..."did the law come before salvation for the death angel in Egypt or after?" Oh, may be not miss this!!

What saved them from the death angel? The blood of the Lamb - they had to hear the voice of God, do what He said, which was to spread the blood of the lamb around the doors of their dwelling places.

May the blood of the Lamb be on the 'door' of our 'house', which is the 'tabernacle' (temple) of the Holy Spirit, when we are born again. Praise God!


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lionswhelp 4 years ago

Hello JD,

Have you read "Rome's Challenge?" - Why Do Protestants Keep Sunday? http://bibleliht.net/chalng

Most Christians assume that Sunday is the biblically approved day of worship. The Roman Catholic Church protest that it transferred Christian worship from the biblical Sabbath (Saturday) to Sunday, and that to try to argue that the change was made in the Bible is both dishonest and a denial of Catholic authority. If Protestantism wants to base its teachings only on the Bible,it should worship on Saturday.

Over one hundred years ago the Catholic Mirror ran a series of articles discussing the right of Protestant churches to worship on Sunday. The articles stressed that unless one was willing to accept the authority of the Catholic Church to designate the day of worship, the Christian should observe Saturday.

A very direct clear article for you but they forgot to point out also that Martin Luther was a Catholic Monk of the Augustine Order. This makes Lutherans along with Calvinist as true Daughters of Babylon, Revelation 17:5. God commands that you all come out of their Sunday (Nimrod's day of the Sun or Serpent,see: Mysteries of Babylon & Pagan Sabbaths - http://www.truthaboutsundayworship.com/MysteriesBa... ) worship in Revelation 18:4, so that you do not receive God's plagues on ya'all. A nice bit of heresy JD. Sleep tight.


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Judah's Daughter 4 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

lionswhelp, I am definitely not a proponent of the Catholic church’s corruption to the scriptures and its pagan practices; however, you’ve read the Word in this hub regarding the Sabbath and what it means, yet you are just as un-teachable as the Scribes and Pharisees. For one who believes the Father conceived the Son with the Mother Holy Spirit, who speaks unscriptural heresy?

Let me ask you something. Why did God not give the seventh-day Sabbath to Adam and Eve or anyone until the Law was given to Moses? And, did God save Israel from Egypt before the Law the was given to Moses or after? What saved them? The Law or the blood of the Lamb?

You can worship on Saturday; you can worship every day, but it won’t make you righteous before God, since you don’t even know the LORD of the Sabbath. You may call yourself ‘lionswhelp’, but what good is it, if you don’t know the Lion of Judah is the LORD God Almighty? Now, take your accusations and threats elsewhere; you have no credibility with me.


Ibeabuchi 4 years ago

That was a well researched work JD!

Only those who are biased in reasoning point acusing finger on you.

However, I ask for permission to publish this work and distribute to friends here in Nigeria.

I commend you for such a thorough work!


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Judah's Daughter 4 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

Ibeabuchi, Thank you so very much. And you are blessed with eyes to see and ears to hear, praise God! My calling, as yours, is to share what God gives us with others ~ that IS our JOY. It blesses me that you will share this with your friends there in Nigeria. Halleluyah to the LORD, Jesus Christ! May God continue to bless you and all there in Nigeria.


BENZ MAWLONG 3 years ago

AMEN !!!


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Judah's Daughter 3 years ago from Roseville, CA Author

It's a BLESSING to see you, brother BENZ MAWLONG! Thank you and God bless you on this first day of the week!


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Leland Johnson 21 months ago from Midland MI

The Jews didn't nail Jesus to the cross, the Romans did. There were many Jews who were his followers, in fact the whole early church was comprised of Jews only.

One other thought, the phrase "first day of the week" as found in Acts 20:7 is not referring to Sunday, but rather Saturday. Look it up the Strong's or Vines Greek dictionary. The word in Greek is "Sabbaton" which literally means "one of the Sabbaths." Given the context of Acts 20 the reason the text would read "one of the Sabbaths" is that they were counting the Sabbaths, as commanded in the Torah, Lev 23:4-16. God commanded the Israelites to count off 50 days or 7 Sabbaths after the last day of Unleavened Bread. This would take them into the next feast, Pentecost, which means "50". In Acts 20 we are told that Paul and the Luke were coming from Philippi "after the Days of Unleavened Bread" vs6. This means they were observing the holy feast of Passover and Unleavened Bread. The text goes on to tell us that they hoped to be in Jerusalem for "the Day of Pentecost" vs 16. We often get distracted by the miraculous resurrection of Eutychus and miss the fact that the text records Paul observing the high holy days and counting the Sabbaths in between. that's why the text actually reads that they met on "ONE of the Sabbaths." The word "one" was incorrectly translated to "first." The church has used this as an argument for the institution of Sunday as the SAbbath, but it is based on an erroneous argument founded on a mistranslation.


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Judah's Daughter 21 months ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hello Leland Johnson, It was the Jews who wanted Jesus crucified for blasphemy - yes, crucifixion was a Roman execution, not a Jewish execution. Not all Jews were of Israel (Jacob) - Judas, for instance was of Edom (Esau). It's amazing that Jacob and Esau were TWINS, equally the sons of Isaac - yet, Jacob received the inheritance, not Esau - he disregarded his inheritance to satisfy his flesh, his belly.

Yes, the Jewish "first day of the week" began Saturday at sundown through Sunday at sundown. I have a hub proving that Jesus was not crucified on Friday, rising on Sunday at sunrise. He was crucified on Wednesday at sundown (the beginning of the high Sabbath before the Feast of First Fruits) and was in that tomb three nights and three days (the sign of Jonah), meaning He rose again at the first minute of the first day of week, Saturday evening.

Likewise, in Acts 12:4, Peter was not held in prison to be executed until "after Easter", for the word in the Greek is pascha "Passover", which is also inclusive of "The Feast of Unleavened Bread" (8 days).

"Good Friday or Good Wednesday?" http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Good-Frida...

This hub does show that it's not about the day of the week any longer (7th or 1st), but our Sabbath rest is found in Christ. HE is the LORD of the Sabbath and those who continue to keep the seventh day (Jews or others) did NOT enter HIS rest. It's no longer about OUR REST, but HIS. All of the Feasts are shadows of the fulfillment found in Christ Jesus alone. Amen.


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Leland Johnson 21 months ago from Midland MI

Again, the Sabbath is not "Jewish". It is a gift of God to man according to Jesus words in Matthew chapter 12. God did not say "This is a holy day for the Jews" but that it was one of HIS holy days. I agree that Jesus was not crucified on Friday. That is not the issue. I sense what is probably an unintentional smattering of anti semitism in your posts. You refer repeatedly to "the Jews." Peter was a Jew, was he in favor of killing JEsus? So were all his disciples and all his followers. Surely they were not in favor of killing him? You say "the Jews" implying all Jews, and that the holy days belonged to the Jews. They were not from the Jews, they were from God and I have to offer you that correction to consider.


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Leland Johnson 21 months ago from Midland MI

It's troubling for you to say "the Jews wanted Jesus crucified." It implies that all Jews were hostile to him and that is not the case. The whole early church was Jewish, you may recall, and besides, the "Jews" didn't even have the power to put people to death- Rome had to do it, Rome did it, and so you shouldn't portray the Jewish people that way. Also, I don't think you actually addressed my points:


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Leland Johnson 21 months ago from Midland MI

I just read this hub more closely and I see that you responded to all-purposeguru by saying that Jesus spoke of the commandments but "never once spoke of the Sabbath." Please explain how you can say that in light of the fact that Matthew 12 features Jesus calling himself "Lord of the Sabbath." Isn't calling himself Lord of the Sabbath mentioning the Sabbath? How much more does he have to mention it, and how can he validate it more than by calling himself "Lord" of it? He never called himself "Lord" of the other commandments, only the commandment regarding the Sabbath, yet you seem to think this commandment is not as binding as the other 9. That is strange to me and I'd appreciate you clearing this up for me. Thank you.


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Leland Johnson 21 months ago from Midland MI

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Leland Johnson 21 months ago from Midland MI

I never said it was about the day of the week either under the first covenant or the renewed. It wasn't about murder, coveting, adultery, or any of the other commandments- it's always about God. God revealed His will to mankind at Sinai, there were a mixed multitude there as well (read Ex ch 12) that consisted of non Jews. You make the Law of God Jewish when you find a part you do not wish to observe. The law pertaining to Sabbath is no more Jewish than the law pertaining to murder. Jesus didn't say God made the Sabbath for Jews, but for MAN! Man in this context means mankind. You are teaching an error. In this, your teaching on the subject is no different than that of Rome's or Luther's. It's still wrong. Jesus didn't call himself "the Sabbath", but "Lord of the Sabbath" …. the word "of" indicates separation of the subject and the object. The object is the Sabbath, the subject is Jesus, "the Lord." If you say the Sabbath is nothing, or has passed away, you are in effect saying that Jesus is Lord of nothing. Jesus said he did not come to destroy the Law, he also said not one jot or tittle would pass from the Law until heaven and earth pass away. I look around and still see heaven and earth so according to Jesus' word- the Law could not have passed away. He said he came to fulfill the Law, that is, to properly explain it. That is the whole point of the Sermon on the Mount. He is not redefining the Law, he is explaining it the way his Father intended it to be understood. If the Sabbath has passed away then so have all the other commandments. Jesus also said, "He who teaches others to disobey the least of the commandments will be called least in the kingdom of heaven." that is, those who are in the kingdom of heaven will look on those who disparage God's Law as "least."


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Judah's Daughter 21 months ago from Roseville, CA Author

Hello Leland Johnson, I will answer your comments one at a time. So, for those reading, read Leland's first comment, then read this answer. Below, read Leland's second comment, then read my response below this one, etc.

Comment 1 of 5 answer:

God rested on the seventh day - this was about His rest, not ours. The Law of keeping the Sabbath was not given until after Israel was delivered from Egypt, at Mt. Sinai.

I made it clear in my first response to your initial comment on this hub that not all "Jews" were of Isaac. There was Jacob and Esau. "Jacob I loved; Esau I hated." (Mal 1:2-3; Rom 9:13. What have you to say about "Abraham's offspring" when it comes to Ishmael (Islam) and Isaac (Israel)? Wow - do you think Muslims will say they're "Jewish"? There are two camps - those of the Promise and those of the flesh. It was those of Esau that persecuted Jesus on that Roman cross, including Judas, one of the twelve. I love the Jews (Israel) and am not an anti semite!

The Holy Days were a shadow, just as the Law of Moses is shadow (a veil), of all things revealed in Christ. Jesus was born at the Feast of Trumpets (some say Tabernacles, but Joseph and the shepherds would have been IN Jerusalem, not Bethlehem at the Feast of Tabernacles). Jesus tabernacled among us (John 1:14). He died on Passover, rose on First Fruits, sent His Spirit on Pentecost. Some say the Fall Feasts have not yet been fulfilled, but I beg to differ. Was He not the Unleavened Bread of Life? He was in the tomb during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Did He not make atonement for our sins as our High Priest?

2 Cor 3:14 (now, remember Moses and the glory on his face, covered with a veil so Israel could look upon him!) "But their minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ."


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Judah's Daughter 21 months ago from Roseville, CA Author

Leland Johnson, Answer to comment 2 of 5:

I say again, "I made it clear in my first response to your initial comment on this hub that not all "Jews" were of Isaac. There was Jacob and Esau. "Jacob I loved; Esau I hated." (Mal 1:2-3; Rom 9:13. What have you to say about "Abraham's offspring" when it comes to Ishmael (Islam) and Isaac (Israel)? Wow - do you think Muslims will say they're "Jewish"? There are two camps - those of the Promise and those of the flesh. It was those of Esau that persecuted Jesus on that Roman cross, including Judas, one of the twelve. I love the Jews (Israel) and am not an anti semite!"


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Judah's Daughter 21 months ago from Roseville, CA Author

Leland Johnson, Answer to comment 3 of 5:

You said, "He never called himself "Lord" of the other commandments, only the commandment regarding the Sabbath."

Who do you think GAVE the Devarim? John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments." Do you know Who He is? Or are you yet under the veil, Leland? Up in vs. 7 and 9 of this same chapter (context), Jesus said, "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him." Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father '?

He is LORD of the Devarim, for the Law of God and the Law of Moses are separated in Scripture! Look at Deut 31:26 regarding the "Book of the Law (the Law of Moses)" - "Take this book of the law and place it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may remain there as a witness against you." It is a witness AGAINST YOU!

Now look at the Devarim! Exodus 40:20 "Then he took the testimony and put it into the ark, and attached the poles to the ark, and put the mercy seat on top of the ark." Now, keep in mind that "Deuteronomy" means "Second Law".

The Devarim were quoted by Jesus, but not the keeping of a Day. Read the hub again, so you understand it's not about OUR REST, but God's rest and that REST is found by faith in Christ. How do I say this again? Were the Jews (Jacob/Israel) not keeping the seventh day? So how is it they DID NOT ENTER HIS REST?? Heb 4.


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Judah's Daughter 21 months ago from Roseville, CA Author

Leland Johnson, Answer to comment 4 of 5:

I have comment screening set to avoid distractions from the topic and endless arguing. I was at work all day and have now read and posted your comments, and am now responding to them.


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Judah's Daughter 21 months ago from Roseville, CA Author

Leland Johnson, Answer to comment 5 of 5:

Regarding Mat 5:18 - Jesus had not yet died on the cross to say, "It is Finished". The Greek word for "fulfilled" is 1096 (ginomai) means "to become, and signifies a CHANGE of condition, state or place" (Vine, Unger, White, NT, 109). Did you know that Testament is as a "Last Will and Testament"? The First Testament was ratified with the blood of goats and bulls. The Last Testament was ratified in His own blood (Acts 20:28).

When the Law of God was given, it applied to all people, for all eternity. When the Law of Moses was given, it applied to Israel and anyone choosing to live among them (non-Jews). That was under the First Testament. And, when Gentile Christians (of the Way) were told to keep the Noahide Laws, it was only because they were living amongst Jews that were yet under the veil (the Law of Moses). Paul said he lived as under the Law to those who were under the Law, though he was not under the Law, that he might win them to Christ. This is the reason we see Paul ministering on "the Sabbath" so often, because he started with the Jews - then, left them (they refused the gospel of salvation by grace through faith and clung to salvation by the Law of Moses) to go to the Gentiles. Read Rom 11 to see that Jews (Israel) who reject Christ Jesus are cut off of their natural tree, so both Jew and Gentile who receive salvation by grace through faith make up that Tree of Life.

We can see a "change of Law" mentioned in Heb 7:12 "For when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of law also." Jesus was not of the line of Aaron (Levite).

I have written two hubs regarding the Law (Law of God vs. Law of Moses) and which of these are eternal...and, it yet takes the veil being lifted to understand the literal seventh day, given at Sinai is no longer about regarding one day above another.

Torah: The Law of Moses http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Torah-The-...

Stone From the Throne http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Stone-From...

If you want to "obey the Sabbath", then enter His rest, which is salvation by grace through faith. Eph 2:8-9 "For by grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves [works]; it [salvation] is the gift [doron, not charismata] of God, NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast." Rest from your works by trusting in Christ Jesus as Savior and LORD. Amen.


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Leland Johnson 20 months ago from Midland MI

If I am "under the veil" would I know it? If I am only God could remove it so I don't think the question in itself has merit. No, I don't want to "obey the Sabbath" (not sure why you put it in quotation marks),but I do want to obey the Lord and He said to "Remember the Sabbath day and KEEP it holy." Shamar in Hebrew means to guard, protect. It was as if God knew people would forget the Sabbath and sadly, teaching what you teach is perpetuating that forgetfulness. You have no way of knowing that those few Jews that did persecute Jesus were descended from Esau- what is your documentation for such statements? Whom exactly are you saying descended from Esau, Judas? Please provide your evidence for that statement as it is not found in the Bible. I do not exclude the validity of extra biblical sources but you have to provide some form of documentation. Also, how is resting on the Sabbath considered "works?" I am doing what God said to do, I am rememebering the Sabbath. Why do you suppose God told us to "remember" the Sabbath but not any other commandment? Don't you find it interesting that the one commandment God said to remember is the one you say to forget? The change of law you speak of is there in a sense. In Hebrews it says that God found fault with the people, not His Law. The "New Covenant" as spoken of in Jeremiah as well as Hebrews is that God would write His Law "on our hearts and in our minds." They are not NEW Laws, they are in a new place- namely the heart and the mind. Of course salvation is a gift, who says it isn't? I'm not keeping the Sabbath to GET saved, but because I am saved I cherish the gift of rest God has given. Jesus (Yeshua) is the Lord of the Sabbath. Note that during the interaction with the Pharisees in Mt. 12 Jesus does not do away with the Sabbath, but explains it's true meaning to them. If Jesus wanted to do away with the Sabbath here was his perfect opportunity. They accused him of breaking the Sabbath and he could've said, "What Sabbath? It no longer applies." But he didn't say that, instead he corrects them by saying he is Lord of the Sabbath, meaning he has the perfect interpretation of the Law. God never put all the restrictions concerning the Sabbath, men did. Jesus did away with the "manmade" rules attached to the Law by men. In the Sermon on the Mount Jesus said, "You have heard it said, 'love your neighbor and hate your enemy' ,but I say to you love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." Leviticus 19 says to "love your neighbor." It says nothing about "hating your enemy." Men added that part. That's why Jesus was correcting that particular error. Elswhere in the Torah and Proverbs concepts are provided for loving our enemies. "If you see the oxen of one who hates you wandering away you shall not look away, but you shall secure it for him." Deuteronomy (don't have the exact ref here but you can find it I'm sure) The Torah teaches love of enemies as well as neighbors. Jesus is the living Torah, the very Word of God made flesh. In your thinking the word "fulfill" means to abrogate or do away with, but that is not what Jesus meant when he said "fulfill." He meant he would "properly interpret and explain." You don't throw away that which is fulfilled.


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Leland Johnson 20 months ago from Midland MI

Regarding your remarks about "entering His rest"- He wasn't talking about all of Abraham's descendant, but rather those that died in the wilderness. They were a "faithless" generation. To keep it in context you have to read Hebrews chapter 3 where it specifically lists that group as those who did not enter His rest. You cannot apply that across the board.


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Judah's Daughter 20 months ago from Roseville, CA Author

Leland Johnson, Answer to comment 1 of 2 above:

It is thought that Judas Iscariot was possibly a descendant of Esau, as he was of Idumean (Edomite) ancestry. What did Esau and Judas have in common? They both sold their “birth right” in different ways: Esau for food (physical birthright) and Judas for 30 pieces of silver (spiritual birthright). According to http://www.life.org/Esau.html, “… the opposing religious Jews at the time of Christ's suffering were actually summed up as being in Esau who sold his birthright. In fact, their accepted king at that time was a descendant of Esau, an Edomite named Herod, whose anointing was via the "high priest" Caesar of Rome…” While many of the Pharisees and Sadducees were Edomites, some were Israelites as well.

Now, regarding the Sabbath being "works", there are hundreds of rules to keeping it as commanded, else you are to be put to death. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_prohibited...

So, you say you 'rest' on the seventh day? Have you broken the Sabbath laws? Would you worry about breaking them? That is FEAR and we are no longer under FEAR. Rom 8:15 "For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, "Abba! Father!"

You must remember that Yeshua was born UNDER THE LAW and kept it PERFECTLY in EVERY WAY to COMPLETE it. The New Covenant nullifies the OLD, for it is ratified in His blood. Even you have stated that Jesus was the living Torah. In fact, Paul withstood Peter to the face in Gal 2:11 because he dared fall back into the Law, while under the grace of faith in Jesus Christ! And in the SAME chapter (context) in verse 21, Paul stated, "I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly."

The laws that have gone from outward to inward are ALL of the 10 Devarim, as Jesus says. To commit adultery is to lust after a married woman in your heart (which then leads to the outward sin). To commit murder is to hate your brother (which may lead to the outward sin). Coveting in the heart may lead to the outward sin, and honor of your father and mother begin in the HEART, leading to outward behavior. It is no different with the Sabbath rest.


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Judah's Daughter 20 months ago from Roseville, CA Author

Leland Johnson, Answer to comment 2 of 2 above:

"Faithless generation" -- do you see the word "Faith" here? They KEPT the seventh day, Leland, and yet because they lacked FAITH, they died in the wilderness. God's people have ALWAYS been saved by FAITH. The Law was added because of transgression (rebellion) - Gal 3:19. Read Heb 11 and see all the fathers of faith listed there (all pre-Sinai). Heb 9:26 "Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages [Old and New] He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself."

Eph 2:8-9, one more time.

God bless you as His Word goes forth and accomplishes what it was sent to do and does NOT return to Him void. I have faith you will see when the time arrives.


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Leland Johnson 20 months ago from Midland MI

So when God gave His Law, which Paul calls "holy, righteous and good" (see Romans 7) He wanted the people to be afraid? The people were NOT keeping the Sabbath. God gave warnings about people breaking the Sabbath continuosly in Jeremiah (ch 17 I believe) and plus, the people were exiled into Babylong because they wer NOT keeping the Sabbath nor letting the land rest as God commanded.

If God wanted people to be in dread fear of him why were the people of the Exodus told to "love the Lord your God with all your heart..." Jesus in fact quotes that vs, the Shema, when asked what was the most important commandment. Don't you think God knows you cant be terrified of someone and love them too?

Finally, what do you mean by saying "it is THOUGHT that Judas was POSSIBLY a descendant of Esau's."? Those are some pretty vague references for you to be portraying them as facts. I don't mean to offend you here, and you may not want to show this post, but I think you're playing a little fast and loose with God's word. One more thought- transgression and rebellion are not synonomous. Rebellion leads to transgression. Rebellion begins in the heart and when acted out becomes transgression.


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Leland Johnson 20 months ago from Midland MI

esus did not come to advance the devarim to a new conceptual level. He explained the commandments as God had always intended them to be understood. Should we really think that when God said "Thou Shalt not commit adultery" that to God it was ok to think lustfully as long as you didn't carry out the actual act? Of course not, God has always been concerned about our thought life, hence "Thou shalt not covet…" Coveting is exclusive to the heart. There is no way to externally covet- Coveting by definition is wanting that which you have no right to. "wanting" is a matter of the heart that may or may not lead to action. Regardless, God addressed that issue in the 10 commandments. I have one question for you. Is the Law spiritual or fleshly- is it directed at the spirit or the flesh?


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lionswhelp 20 months ago

Remember to keep the Sabbath Day Holy, Exodus 20:8.

He (or her)that saith, I know him and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him (or her), 1 John 2:4.

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates to the city, Revelation 22:12-14.

If you love me keep my commandments, John 14:15.

Have a nice Sabbath Day


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Judah's Daughter 20 months ago from Roseville, CA Author

Leland Johnson, Answer to comment 1 of 2:

In Jeremiah, the Law of the literal seventh-day Sabbath had been given in Exodus at Sinai. Tell me now, do we see any of the fathers of faith listed in Heb 11 keeping the seventh-day Sabbath? And, if you TRY to say they DID, please tell me why Israel was NOT doing so when the Sabbath Day Sabbath Law was given? Why don't we see the seventh-day rest command given to Adam in the creation account? Adam was created on Day 6 - we don't see God telling Adam to rest on the seventh day. Rather the Scripture reads that God rested from all His works.

If keeping the seventh-day literal Sabbath was a matter of life and death (as breaking the Sabbath was a matter of death), why not make it a command from the very beginning? Do you think Pharaoh made sure the Hebrews rested every seventh day while they were in slavery? I think not. This very well may be the reason God gave them a day of rest.

The Law of Moses does incite fear, even sin (Rom 7:5) - the Law of God is the Devarim and is Spiritual (inward). The Law of Moses was a matter of physical life and death. Ask those who still think tithing is compulsory (even Jesus didn't tithe because He was a Carpenter, rather than one who farmed or raised livestock - and tithing was never about $$) - they are terrified of being cursed by God if they don't tithe! Salvation by deeds! Eph 2:8-9, once again.

Jesus said the most important commandment was that the LORD thy God is ONE (not two or three). We can look up the word "ONE" in Mark 12:29 to see it is singular and masculine, so the adjective of Deut 6:4 is clarified. Are you a Trinitarian, Leland? Or, do you not confess Jesus (the Life-Giving Spirit) is The LORD?

Regarding Judas, I followed the statement of why it was thought Judas was a descendant of Esau (which you conveniently left out) with "as he was of Idumean (Edomite) ancestry." No need to argue the matter - the fact is, not all natural-born Jews are Jews. Period. I mean, Jesus called those Jews who eventually had Him crucified, "You are of your father the devil", "vipers" and "snakes", etc. Who were they, do you say?

As far as "transgression" meaning "rebellion", look up the Hebrew and see how it's translated in Scripture: http://biblehub.com/hebrew/6588.htm


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Judah's Daughter 20 months ago from Roseville, CA Author

Leland Johnson, Answer to comment 2 of 2 above:

Why did Jesus say, "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." Why the contrast from outward to inward, if it was ALWAYS understood to be a matter of the heart?

The point is, those who kept the literal seventh day, kept the Law in the flesh -- obviously -- for Jesus had to explain that the Law is Spiritual (Rom 7 explains it well).

Rom 2:28-29 “For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.”


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Judah's Daughter 20 months ago from Roseville, CA Author

Now, Lionswhelp is a good example of someone who is staunch about keeping a literal seventh-day Sabbath, while believing God the Father copulated with the Holy Spirit (Mother) to cause Mary to conceive the Son of God -- or something to that effect. Egalitarian.

So, break the first and foremost Commandment - that God is ONE (heis/echad) - Adj., singlular, masculine -- while being staunch about the keeping of the physical seventh-day Sabbath?

Lionswhelp - do you make sure to follow all of the Laws of the Sabbath given, lest you be put to death, too?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_prohibited...


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Rosualdo Ponce 18 months ago from Gawad Kalinga Village Ticad, Bantayan, Cebu, Philippines

A very useful and informative hub. Thank you for this great insights. Whatever disagreement regarding the Sabbath issue, one thing sure to be right. God give us freedom to choose for our Rest. Jesus is our Rest not any day of the week (Matthew 11:28). If a man rest in Jesus no laws or rules will have the power over him.

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