Is Satan a man or ex-angel in hell or simply in us?

In the USA many adults are of the view that Satan is an embodiment, symbol and originators of evil rather than an actual personality, entity or a being. Within the Judeo-Christian religion, Satan's function is to seduce the man away from God and Godliness. In Christianity, Satan is the precise reverse of who Christ is and what he stands for. In the New Testament, it is stated that "Satan is the "devil," and the "diabolist". Accordingly, Satan is incredibly sly, cunning, insinuating, and the deceiver; crafty and ingenious in twisting people's minds. According to Jah (Yah), Satan has been Granted the Right to "Deceive the whole earth", and he has taken full benefits of that go-ahead.

He is called by various names in the Bible starting out as in angel, created by God but later casted out of heaven. Satan is the foe of the virtuous and works to bring down God's will. Satan is the ruler of Hell. In Islamic religion, Satan is known as the "Shaitan or Iblis". One that is evil like the "jinn" who refused to bow to Adam and disobeyed God and became one of the non-believers.

Satan driven out of Heaven
Satan driven out of Heaven

In the Hindu and Buddhist religion, they are called the "Rakshasas" in the form of demons or non virtuous spirits, who despises the words of God, hates men of virtuousness and morality, kills sages, seers and yogis.

The Bahai religion rejects the existence of the being of Satan, the devil or the Evil. It is rather regarded as the "non-existence of good" similar to the lack of light is the cause of darkness.

The Hindu "Rakshasas" creating havoc
The Hindu "Rakshasas" creating havoc

Many Satan worshippers believe that Jehovah is evil and Satan is good. They call him the prince of this world. Satirically speaking: Satan is Santa Claus and the Devil is driving down the chimney.

Most agree that Satan was cast out of heaven but where he was sent to and where his abode has been since has different opinions. Many are of the view that he was cast down to hell and has been there in chains of darkness ever since. Many say that his dwelling is in the space where we live. The most universal view is that he walks about in our world like a thunderous lion in the hunt for whom ever he may consume and will continue and continues to do so. Many believe that he resides in the heart of every wicked man and is the cause evil.

The embodiment of evil, Adolf Hitler
The embodiment of evil, Adolf Hitler

Satan is evil. Satan is bad. Satan is the arch-fraudster. Satan is the devil. Satan is out to claim as many souls as he can. Satan is the cause that there is sin and sufferings in the world. Satan is a representation of Mans dwelling as his prideful, carnal evil nature. Satan is going to lure us just when we are trying to pray and be good.

However, Satan can be powerless and will have no hold on you if you do not allow him space. Hereby declare Satan as powerless, one that no loner rules over you or influences you. If you don't, Satan will always be in the offing to claim your soul. If you don't Satan will be active and breathing and will live inside you.

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MrMarmalade 8 years ago from Sydney

My belief there is no such thing, person or creature as satan. He, it, that or what ever you like to think is only in our mind

We create it all for ourselves

Thank you for the question


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omdelhi 8 years ago from New Delhi

Nice writeup Rudra, my belief about Santan "Rakshasas" is present and very well live in everybody. We can see the diffrence between Sant and Santan (try to recall one of the worst crime "Nithari Hatya Kand in NOIDA, UP". try to name the person who ate the human flesh. .....

be in touch.

OM


debasis 8 years ago

Right Rudra philosophically speaking SATAN for us is MAYA or illusion .We do all the bad things due to it


debasis 8 years ago

Right Rudra philosophically speaking SATAN for us is MAYA or illusion .We do all the bad things due to it


the "Hillbilly Gardener" 8 years ago

Rubra,

I think that overall you are very insightful and correct. I'm glad to see your hub. An in-depth discussion of minor issues within the larger context is not in order here, but I see at least one post from someone who is going to be greatly surprised by the incorrectness of their opinion. There is no basis (from any standpoint) for the disbelief of a supreme evil being. Even the most ardent athiast afirms the presence of a supreme evil force. It is a misguided frame of reference to deny the presence of such supernatural beings any more in the face of so much undeniable evidence and one that is currently embraced by all credible scientific and socialogical experts. The encouraging aspect is that this belief is becoming more and more evident in all of their works, both public and private. No longer does the scientific or sociological community deny their existance. It is from the acceptance of these basic principles of supernatural beings and forces that mankind is able to find the means to become something other than what he has become and the hope of the future. Yes I believe in the God of the Bible and in the reality of the existance of Satan who was, is and will be defeated and ultimately will be removed from the presence of man at the last coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.


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sunkentreasure 8 years ago

Rudra, You have not answered my question: WHO IS YOUR FAVORITE BIBLE PERSONALITY? (BESIDES JESUS)

Your discussion has really got nothing to do with the subject of telling us 'Who Is Your Favorite in the Bible'.


Iðunn 8 years ago

excellent hub.


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Wehzo 8 years ago from Detroit, MI

Good hub. I like the open discussion, although I agree with 'Hillbilly Gardener'.


Steve 8 years ago

The Ego is the Anti Christ. The Ego denies oneness and is all for self. We were all born to crucify our egos and spread as much love as possible.


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privateye2500 8 years ago from Canada, USA, London

"Is Satan a man or ex-angel in hell or simply in us?

IMO, Not a man (or woman) - likely could be ex-angel or still angel, just a *badass* angel :}

Definitely IN us.

My view is basicly evil - or the devil, or anything like that is this - it is a LACK of good.

It isn't a sepertae entity - it is but a lack - a hole if you will. Evil is a lack of good. Or a lack of God.

Like that...


issues veritas 7 years ago

There is light and dark and shades of gray in between

There is good and bad and shades in between.

Anti light could be called dark

Anti good could be called evil

evil can be named anything.

good can be named anything.

good and bad are relative terms when used in human nature.

They are defined by the culture or mores of the society.

Human beings are never at either extreme, they fluctuate between the extremes.

Good and Bad could be asymptotes

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An asymptote of a real-valued function y = f(x) is a curve which describes the behavior of f as either x or y tends to infinity.

In other words, as one moves along the graph of f(x) in some direction, the distance between it and the asymptote eventually becomes smaller than any distance that one may specify.

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Basically, what it means is that you can get closer and closer to good or evil but you can never totally reach it.

Now if religion is the context of these terms then it puts God as good and Satan as evil (the extreme of bad). These terms are setup by definition.

Now in Religion there is also the attribute of power. God and Satan both have power and the religion tells the story of good overpowering evil. Which is God is more powerful than Satan. Now Religion is being philosophical.

The power battle is like a professional boxing match, where neither fighter has been knocked out, round after round. With the exception in the boxing match the referee can issue points on the fighters performance. In religion, we just don't know how to keep score, so we wait for the knock out.

 


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Kevala Yoga 7 years ago

interesting!

personally, i think we create satan. we create, pain, we create fear, we create disillusionment. satan is in our thoughts. i do not believe in satan. i think fear creates this path which so many walk on. there are stories, and there are philosophies, but fear is what creates them. without fear, we are all powerful to conquer the 'evil' that society creates.

love it pure and good and real. love is what connects and what will bring peace. fear sets us apart from ourselves and lets us all believe that we are lower and less powerful.

we all need to expel fear and then love will grow.

thank you for the discussion you have initiated. it brings awareness to life.

blessings to you and all you love


Jun 6 years ago

Satan is just the radical Christian's excuse for killing people.


wendy 6 years ago

You're definition of Satan according to Christianity is flawed. Satan is not the "precise reverse" of Jesus. Jesus is a non-created thing. He is God. Satan is a created thing. He is a fallen angel. There is a huge difference between the two. God is all powerful, all knowing, and ever present. Angels are of limited power, limited knowledge, and can only be in one place at a time. Because of this, Jesus will win the battle between good and evil. When He returns, he will cast Satan and all unbelievers into Hell. And no, WE are not Satan OR God. They are separate and distinct from us. One may chose to believe or not. But one word of advice: If you chose not to believe in gravity, don't jump off of any tall buildings :) God Bless all of you, I will be praying.


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Samantha Hera 6 years ago from AU & Belgium

We create our own reality. Either 'it' is or 'it' is not. Philosophical meanderings aside, I am enjoying your posts.

http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Dark-Magic


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brotheryochanan 6 years ago from BC, canada

according to the bible, where does it describe satan. All inferences to satans abilities are non-existant. It doesnt say satan is incredibly cunning or smart or a murderer or that he is fallen, it doesn't say he lives in heaven or was cast out. All of these suppositions are inferred. People believe them and they know not where they got them from. This satan thing is just a myth passed down through the ages, ripped from some false pagan religion and mixed into christianity but i assure you, satan as a personalized being does not exist. Adam and eve were flesh and we are flesh, thats it. Our flesh is the culprit. Tame the flesh and we win, plain and simple. Satan and hell forever and ever is just a catholic tweak like sunday sabbath.

Enjoy your new found freedom.


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HOOWANTSTONO 6 years ago

All you have said about Satan alias "Lucifer" are correct yes Satan is the Devil and also the Deceiver and liar and murderer.

We do have victory over him and Christ did reject him and defeat him and render him powerless.

If you really want to get a deeper knowledge on Satan who he is, where he came from, and why he is on earth walking amongst us, have a read at these hubs.

http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Alias-Luci

http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Satans-Dem

If you want to know about Angels and what they do go to these hubs

http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Angels-of-

Peace


Robert 6 years ago

Lucifer, the leading angel rebelled against Yahweh. He was disenfranchised from his high position in the universe.

Through deceit he injected his evil poison into Adam and Eve.

As we are descendants of Adam and Eve that evil nature and life of Satan has been inherited by us. Hence the necessity to accept Christ's antidote: Believe into the Lord Jesus Christ and be born anew, to receive God's life and nature into us. We were created in the Image and after the likeness of God. Satan enticed Adam and Eve to partake of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil rather than the tree of life.

Christ is 'the tree of life' today, He dispenses His life and nature into us as we partake of Him


Will 5 years ago

I believe that god is god and Satan was an angel becoming to powerful so god casted him to hell Satan is not chained up but lives in hell as god lives in heaven,both are religions that are different but lead to a different path,in gods view everyone can make it to heaven as long as they believe and ask f


Will 5 years ago

Or forgiveness,satan believes that if u believe and treat people the way they treat u will make it to hell Satan is a god,and "god" is a god,choose one path and follow it,but if not certain about what u believe,don't follow any of them or just don't care u will be damned to walk the earth,earth is chaos and heaven and hell is the finish line,believe in what u want to believe but if u are damned to walk the earth then the final battle will destroy u anyways,the final battle in my belief is when earth becomes total chaos from Jesus and his followers fight against Satan and his followers,both expecting to win will realize that they are both not different as they and others may think,and destroy each Other and their followers in the making,so everlasting life isn't so everlasting,the final battle may destroy all everyone,on earth the ones in hell and the ones in heaven, if Jesus and satan don't end the feud,and we (the people on earth) are actrually here to show them both that they are actrually more alike then they know


Larry Silverstein 5 years ago

Satan in the Book of Job: The Facts

The Book of Job does not tell us many facts concerning the identity of Satan, which is doubtless why it forms such a mystery. Nevertheless we do glean two things from the passages where Satan is mentioned:

1. Satan presented himself before God

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. (Job 1:6 RSV)

Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD. (Job 2:1 RSV)

2. Satan is given the authority (by God) to cause calamity to Job

The LORD said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.” (Job 1:12)

The LORD said to Satan, “Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his life.” So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the top of his head. (Job 2:6-7)

These two dialogues, in Job 1 and 2 respectively, are the only appearances of the word “Satan” in the book of Job. So the information we have to work with to understand who “Satan” is, is minimal. To help us understand these quotes it is useful to explore occurrences of the two facts: ‘presenting oneself before the Lord’ and the ‘power to cause calamity’ in other parts of the Bible.

Comparing the facts in Job with other Scriptures

1. Presenting oneself before the Lord

It is noteworthy that in the Bible those who present themselves before the Lord are invariably men: not angels, nor any other type of being. Here are some examples:

The LORD said to Moses… “Be ready in the morning, and then come up on Mount Sinai. Present yourself to me there on top of the mountain.” (Exodus 34:1-2)

The priest who pronounces him clean shall present both the one to be cleansed and his offerings before the LORD at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting.(Leviticus 14:11)

Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy… (Jude 1:24 KJV)

By contrast, the angels are described as being permanently in the presence of God.

“See that you do not look down on one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.”(Matthew 18:10)

On the basis of the evidence above, we are left to question who then was: “…Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD”? If the scriptural pattern is consistent the answer is that it must be men, appearing in a place of worship or otherwise who are presenting thoughts to God, e.g. in prayer or meditation.

Furthermore the Bible categorically states that an angel could not have brought this slanderous accusation against Job in the presence of God:

…angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against [righteous men] in the presence of the Lord.(2 Peter 2:11)

2. The Power to cause Calamity

3. The Bible makes clear that God has ultimate control over everything, including the power to allow or prevent the evil behavior of men. The power to cause calamitous diseases is beyond the capacity of humans and must come solely from God.

4. “I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” (Isaiah 45:5-7 KJV)

5. If God is the sole source of such calamity it must be God who brought the evil upon Job. This conclusion is harmonious with the text in Job, which also affirms that God was the one who afflicted him:

6. All his [Job’s] brothers and sisters and everyone who had known him before came and ate with him in his house. They comforted and consoled him over all the trouble the LORD had brought upon him, and each one gave him a piece of silver and a gold ring.(Job 42:11)

7. Nevertheless the explanation that God was the “Satan” who afflicted Job does not satisfy all the verses, because clearly God is speaking to a second party when discussing Job’s impending calamities.

8. The LORD said to Satan, “Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his life.” So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD, and afflicted Job with loathsome sores from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head. (Job 2:6-7)

9. So who is this second party to whom God is speaking? The answer is that when God acts to bring calamity (or deliverance) in scripture, it is commonly described as being performed by an angel acting under the divine directive. There is much evidence for this; here are just two examples:

10. “My God sent his angel, and he shut the mouths of the lions. They have not hurt me, because I was found innocent in his sight. Nor have I ever done any wrong before you, O king.” (Daniel 6:22)

11. He unleashed against them his hot anger, his wrath, indignation and hostility-- a band of destroying angels. He prepared a path for his anger; he did not spare them from death but gave them over to the plague. (Psalm 78:49-50)

12. Who then is the Satan sent out of God’s presence to afflict Job? The scriptural answer must be that “Satan” is an angel, obediently performing God’s decisions to allow Job to suffer affliction.

13. But now we seem to have two Satans: the jealous men and the destroying angel! How are we to determine who is Satan – or are they both Satan? We account for this apparent discrepancy by realizing that the term “Satan” in Hebrew is a title given to something or someone, which is in opposition, rather than to a particular person himself. Thus the title “Satan” belongs to whoever is in opposition at that time (much like the title of “King” or “governor” therefore, it can pass from person to person through time). Consequently “Satan” is used to describe the men whilst they generate their jealous hatred of Job, and “Satan” is used to describe the angel whilst he is directed by God to act upon this jealous hatred.

14. “Satan” is not the only Hebrew word that is used in this generic titular fashion. It will enhance our understanding of the use of the word “Satan” in Job to consider at least one other Hebrew word, which is used in this way.

Generic Titles in Scripture

Certain words in scripture are generic titles, rather than personal names. That is to say their application is not restricted to a particular personality, but is applied to a variety of different people at such times as they satisfy the criteria for the title, much like the title of an office. Two specific examples of this are the words: “Elohim” and “Satan.”

Example 1 ELOHIM – A Title for Mighty One(s)

“Elohim” is a Hebrew title for one who stands in great power, to rule and judge. This title is applied across the entire range of scriptural characters, from a) God, to b) angels, to c) human men.

a) God as “Elohim”

In the beginning God [Hebrew: ELOHIM] created the heavens and the earth. (Genesis 1:1)

b) Angels as “Elohim”

“What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels [Hebrew: ELOHIM], and hast crowned him with glory and honour.” (Psalm 8:4-5 KJV)

c) Human men as “Elohim”

But if the servant declares, “I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,” then his master must take him before the judges [Hebrew: ELOHIM]. He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life. (Exodus 21:5-6)

Example 2 SATAN – A Title for an Opponent

The title “Satan” is equally generic in scripture. It is not a personal name, and thus again its use is not limited to a single character. The title “Satan” is applied for one who stands in opposition; and it is applied, in the same way as “Elohim,” across the full spectrum of scriptural characters from a) God, to b) angels, to c) human men.

a) God as “Satan” (Compare these two parallel accounts)

Again t


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