Scribes and Pharisees

There are dozens if not hundreds of different denominations of Christianity based upon as many different interpretations.

It stands to reason that most of them are incorrect to some degree or another.

These denominations do have some things right

How would we know which parts are wrong?

I believe that all denominations of Christianity that I am aware of are misguided on one main issue.

I suggest that everyone disregard everything that we think that we know. Start all over in our understanding. We should read the words of Jesus Christ as if we have never read, or heard anything concerning then.

This is very difficult to do, but do the best that you can. If we are following Jesus, we should read first those things that it is written that JESUS said.

Begin with a fresh and new mindset.

There is no worth while reason to change the meanings of his words.

It doesn't matter one little bit what someone else says if that disagrees

with what Jesus said.

That my friends, is where all of the false interpretations have come from.

Believe FIRST those things that are written, that Jesus and Gabriel is said to have soken.

Return to basics ... and eliminate all interpretations.

Determine for yourself what the words are saying.

YOU WILL BE SURPRISED1

We will find ourselves reading things that we will not want to believe. We may not even know why we don’t want to believe it as written. This will indicate that we have just stumbled upon a false interpretation that someone else has planted in our head.

Christians all too often find ourselves following something that someone else teaches instead of these things that Jesus said so clearly.

Jesus didn’t come to the earth to present a puzzle that confused his followers. These are seen as puzzles for those that do not follow him.

So; if you are not following the teachings of Christ? Continue interpreting his words as if he didn’t know what he was saying.

If you want to follow Christ, Then believe what he said, exactly as he said it. When we interpret his message, we are changing the meaning of his message to suit ourselves. It really is that simple.

Jesus teaches many things concerning how to live life in the will of God. These may contain many personal interpretations that apply to the individual? He also teaches many prophetic messages. These have no private interpretation. Second Peter 1:20. Knowinf this first, that no prophesy of scripture is of any private interpretation.

Matthew 23 is one such prophetic message that Jesus delivered to the Pharisees in the temple just moments before he went to the top of the Mt. of Olivet. The disciples then ask Jesus, “When are these things going to be?”

Before we answer that question , let us review a couple of things described in the 23rd chapter.

Matt. 23:13 : “But woe unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites …”

Who are the modern day scribes and Pharisees ? We should ask ourselves, “could this be describing ME”? When we judge another and say that they can not enter the kingdom, are we not doing as the Pharisees were doing?”

Matt 23:13 “… for you shut up the kingdom against men, for you neither go in yourselves neither you suffer them that are entering to go in.”

If we are as modern day Pharisees, Jesus said woe unto you(us) eight times, and called you (us)a fool twice and said other not so nice things about you (us) in this chapter alone, though it was generally addressed to those that he was speaking, at that time and place

Jesus was speaking to those Pharisees and Scribes of that day when he said, Matt. 23:34 Wherefore I send (Do send, not did or will send, I do send) unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes, and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them ye shall scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city.

It is clear that those Pharisees did in fact fulfill this prophesy during the next forty years, until the Roman army destroyed Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD.

Immediately after Jesus said these things concerning the Pharisees; Peter, James, John and Andrew followed Jesus to the Mt of Olivet to ask him, “When are these things going to be?”

Jesus then proceeded to answer their question. Take heed that no man deceive you.

V 24:9 they shall deliver YOU up to be afflicted, and shall kill YOU, and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name sake.” I can picture Jesus pointing to one and then another of his disciples as he said these things

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, then let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains For then shall be the great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

These verses are saying that at least one of these four disciples are going to see the abomination spoken of by Daniel the prophet. And that our time on earth as they knew it is going to continue after this great tribulation but there will never be another tribulation as great as that one will be.

(24:34) Verily I say unto you (These four disciples to whom he was speaking to) This generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled. But no one knows the day or hour, but God only.

When we misinterpret these messages, given to the disciples as if they were spoken to someone else, other than who they were given to, all understand of scripture, is lost.

The great tribulation already came just as Jesus said that it would Jesus came again as he said that he would for the purposed that he said he would.

We may misunderstand the way in which he said that he was going to do it. But I believe that he did what he said he was going to do when he said he was going to do it. To do otherwise would not be believing Him.

It is better to believe that we were wrong than to believe that he didn’t do what he said he was going to do. He did it!

We just don’t want to believe it the way it was told Religion interpret that story in such a way that we can like it better We are now caught up in the necessity to do the same thing with all of the prophetic messages that we were given. We are drowning in misinterpretations. of our own making. If we can just believe the words of Jesus exactly as they were spoken, we will begin to see who he really was, and who we really are, and where we are really at.

To do otherwise, is to become like the Scribes and Pharisees that Jesus was talking about.

I do not want to be a Scribe or Pharisee!

In order to not be one, we must believe as little children. In order to not be a Pharisee we must believe what Jesus said (Matt 24:4) and take heed that no man deceive YOU!

And that includes me. Don't let me decieve you either. Read scripture for yourself, and don't change the meaning to suit yourself.

Read the words of Jesus, believe them first, then continue reading those things that are but the understanding of others. But never let them when they contrdict those things that Jesus taught.

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Paraglider 5 years ago from Kyle, Scotland

Hi Jerami - the problem is that no-one can be sure that what is written (and rewritten) is a true account of what was said.


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Jerami 5 years ago from Houston tx Author

Good day Paraglider ... That is all too true.

I like to think that some of it can be said to be accurate.

If a Christian is going to believe any of it you would think that they would begin with the "Jesus said it" parts first. And not what the disciples precieved him to mean.

If they can't believe that part, they are just kidding themselves. If they do not keep that part they may as well worship the moon or the grass under their feet. Cause they are no different than any other.

If Christians do not belive that part that Jesus said..Then what is a Christian?


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Paraglider 5 years ago from Kyle, Scotland

That's a sound position to adopt. And a good question too.


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PlanksandNails 5 years ago from among the Ekklesia

A "Christian" is a label of identification; therefore, confined to the pinners of their religion.

Rather a more accurate definition to consider may be a follower of Jesus Christ.


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Jerami 5 years ago from Houston tx Author

follower of Jesus Christ seems to be the agreed upon answer; but how many of us really do that?

From what I have seen in life in this day and time a Christian is someone who says that they believe in Jesus Christ. But to say that we do and to realy do it is two different things.

Kinda like ... to say I would like to quit a bad habbit and to realy want to, are two different things.


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macrobin 5 years ago from Amarillo, Texas

Wow I'm so glad you wrote this! I used to be a horrible Pharisee as a Christian until God knocked me on the head and humbled me and showed me the truth! Thank you for posting this! I think if you read my hubs, we have a kindred spirit and God is teaching both of us right now! Be blessed! Robin


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Jerami 5 years ago from Houston tx Author

Thank you for your comment and I did check out a few of your hubs and will get to the rest. Good stuff.

and blessisgs wished back atcha


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Disappearinghead 5 years ago from Wales, UK

Good hub Jerami.

The truth is:

John 6:44-45 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.

and

John 14:26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

The Church doesn't want people to be taught by God, hence historically it oppressed those who wanted the bible in their vernacular. The people too decided they would rather pay for a man to lead their local church, to read the scriptures on their behalf, and tell them what they mean. The Church formalised these principles in its very foundations, and produced creeds and doctrines based on its interpretations in order to satisfy the masses with the 'truth'. Those who opposed the doctrines were excommunicated, shunned, cast out, or oppressed. The Israelites weren't much different; they told Moses to seek God on their behalf.

From the two scriptures above, it's clear that we need to ask God Himself to teach us from scratch, casting off everything we know or think we know. Then as you say, we will see the false interpretations someone implanted in our heads.


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Jerami 5 years ago from Houston tx Author

All so very true..

The problem today seems to be that everyone thinks that they hear from the Holy Spirit, when in fact there are lieing spirits out there as well.

I believe in my heart of hearts that this is why the prophesies were given to us.

A clear understanding of prophesy gives us something to test the spirits with. Had everyone used them 2000 years ago, we would not have so many Demonizations, but only one word of God.

It just seems too simple for it to be so difficult.

Thanks for stopping by and shareing with us.


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Disappearinghead 5 years ago from Wales, UK

Interesting these lying spirits. There's an account of one being commissioned by God in 1 kings 22, God asks the angels who would go to be a lying spirit in the mouths of Ahab's prophets. There's a principle here. God will send lying spirits to those that claim to prophesy in His name but don't. As you say some think the Holy spirit is talking to them when it is not. Lying spirit sent from God or just their own self belief in their own beliefs? Who knows.


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Jerami 5 years ago from Houston tx Author

Yes I was thinking about that instance when making the earlier statement. I remember most every verse I've read yet can't remember hardly any chapter and verse #s.

We can not over look the fact that we are told to test the spirit that comes to us. This seems to be saying that there are many lieing spirits ? Maybe ?

I guess that if it (the spirit) tells us what we want to hear; we think that we have tested it ptoperly?

As I have been saying for quite some time, People have been misinterpreting scripture for Ssoooo long that they no longer know how to read what is written without injecting their own beliefs upon what they are reading.

It is like a tangled up rope! And we can not see where we should begin to untangle it.

I do not remember where it is written ... but... It Is Written that the prophesy is given to us for proof of scripture. This verse was talking about the great prophets such as Ezeliel, Daniel, etc.

To misunderstand these prophets is to misunderstand most everything else written in scripture.

We cain't watch the ball game if we are in the wrong ball park.

Concerning archery ... Ya don't have to miss the target by much to miss the whole thing. And a miss is a miss. No one measures how much we missed the target by.

As you finished your comment with ... who knows?

Been good seeing ya back on forums.


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lone77star 5 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

Jerami, your first few sentences have me hooked. Approaching the kingdom of heaven as if a beggar never looked so good, and humility in reading scripture never seemed so wonderful. Now... pardon me while I finish reading. ;)


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lone77star 5 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

Again, Jerami, outstanding! The Hub and even the comments are worth savoring more than once.

Discussing these things helps to strip away the false interpretation and find the true meaning.

I have read that some Bible passages were mistranslated and some of the so-called corrections in the Lamsa Bible sound like improvements on the translation. One day, perhaps sometime in the next 60 years of my life, I'll learn Hebrew and learn to read the original words -- as close to original as we can get, perhaps.

It's also easy to misunderstand something and not realize that you are "interpreting." Some of my biggest breakthroughs came from this kind of awareness of myself mis-understanding something.

In the Old Testament, particularly in Genesis, interpretation might be called for, but there we really need humility and spiritual guidance. I've only scratched the surface there, but have discovered so far many new things I had not known were there. Things my Southern Baptist minister grandfather would have been stunned, if not shocked, to hear.

The seemingly outrageous longevity of the early patriarchs are explained by Genesis 5:2 and a little imagination. The unbelievable support that God gives a murderer and liar (Cain) may be clues to a deeper wisdom. It seems the Kabbalists existed at least 2000 years before many scholars think they originated in the Middle Ages, for the Kabbalah's "Tree of Life" is embedded in two chapters of Genesis.

Genesis even includes a timeline compatible with those of science, but so many Fundamentalists will never see it, because they lack the humility to look. They think their interpretation is equivalent to that of God.

Thirty-four years ago (1977), I experienced a most profound miracle (Anatomy of a Miracle). I had discovered the mechanics of creation and used them on numerous occasions. Only recently, while re-reading Genesis 1 and 2, did I realize that those same mechanics are represented in Genesis.

There are some things that cannot be understood immediately by using our mortal languages. The concepts are too counter-intuitive. The realm of creation does not contain the same continuity which governs physical reality. Thus the Garden of Heaven (Genesis 2-3) is given descriptions which appear physical, but may not have been.

It talks of forbidden fruit and trees of the knowledge of good and evil and of life. But these may be merely conceptual matrices. Like the forbidden fruit may be merely all of the dichotomies which lock us into physical reality -- good-evil (mentioned in Genesis), generous-selfish, right-wrong, wisdom-stupidity, compassion-indifference, victim-perpetrator, etc. And these are the blood and bones of ego.

Couldn't ego be the "self" that Jesus said we must let die so that we can gain everlasting life? The Pharisees were full of ego. They suffered openly when fasting. They gave their tithes publicly. They wanted the admiration of their peers for their following of the law. It was an empty gesture meant for the master of this world -- ego.

Perhaps interpretation can be helpful if, and only if, it illuminates what Jesus was already saying. For this, I can only rely on the quiet, still voice within. But I also discuss these things with others, sometimes correcting my path based on their input and their discoveries. My own ability to listen is yet imperfect.

Always, humility is the key. And I have to keep reminding myself of this.


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Jerami 5 years ago from Houston tx Author

lone77star .. Thank you so much for your comment.

There are so many things that come to mind ??

I apologize for taking so long to reply.

I think you are correct about ego. Yep! this could be our first hurdle to consider.

I forget where it is written, "Nothing is as it apears to be" might be the second most important thing to consider. "?" beore our ego gets the better o us.

It is written that Prophesy of scripture has NO personal interpretations.

It is just my opinion, but, I believe that is the most ignored verse in the New testament.

Everybody is doing it.

Imagine one of the earlier prophets making a simple to the point statement that can be understood but one way. Simple statemnt of fact. Then Jesus says something, and because we do not WANT to understand his simple statement to mean what it would obviously mean ..

except we do not agree ... we interpret his words in such a way that the words of the earliest prophet also must be interpreted.

Now that that has been done ? everything must be interpreted and still nothing seems to come together.

I think that all the prophesy DOES fit together like a jig saw puzzle.

I think that God sent his prophets with a message that he wants for us to understand.

It is when our ego rises up so high as to think that Gods message needs to be interpreted that confusion.


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lone77star 5 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

Jerami, wow! Good points. Some jigsaw puzzle!

I think God wants us to interpret. Certainly, nearly everyone gets it wrong (including me). But if we use humility, then the Bible has accomplished one very beautiful thing -- gotten us to offload a bit of ego. Interpretation only becomes a hindrance if we become too attached to any one interpretation, and that's ego, again.

Digging deeper to find the Bible's hidden wisdom requires humility and the aim of the Bible is spiritual awakening which requires humility. Nice how that works out.


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Jerami 5 years ago from Houston tx Author

lone77star , as always your comment encourages deeper thought, and think you.

ego, vanity , and pride are indeed our stumbling blocks which we hold so dear.

I recall a verse where God is talking about pride. It seems to me that God thought Pride was a big issue!

He said that we have nothing to be self prideful for; our intelligence, good looks, good health, etc are gifts from him. That we should not even be prideful of our faith in him, for this too is a gift from him because he gives faith to those that he chooses, and he doesn't to whom he chooses not to. So we should not think ill of those that do not have it. That is very confusing,

Why are we supposed to attempt to give faith to those that God chose to not give it too? Maybe ? simply as an exercise to build our own understanding ?

I also recall him saying prophesy is given in order to prove the rest of scripture. So it seems to me that it is most important to understand prophesy correctly.

Sooo it seem to me that one of Satan’s first goals would be to discredit, and confound our understanding of prophesy! The most efficient way to do this is to convince us through our pride/ego that we have the ability to interpret these prophesy.

Now, we have as many "Interpretations" as we have believers. Is it possible for us to read prophesy without injecting it with predisposition of that which we are about to read. I think it is necessary we wipe the slate clean and begin again carefully reading that which is written. AND we have to begin in the right place in scripture. Again, just my opinion.

Q Where is the true meaning of these prophesy?

A Hidden in plain sight in scripture, under a mountain of false interpretations and predispositions, which have been planted in our minds which prevents us from correctly understanding the written word, regardless of how many times we read them.

When an error is implanted within the foundation of our belief system, our whole belief system continues to grow in error.

Knowing that nothing is as it appears to be, helps me to be humble to whatever degree that I be.


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lone77star 5 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

Jerami, my mind is buzzing with your thoughts. Something is getting all stirred up and I love it!

When one's own ideas are held lightly, and someone else says something new and different, discovery is possible. Listening to the quiet, still voice within, it is possible to guide discovery to something closer to God.

Yes, pride (ego) is an issue. But ego is much more than pride. Pride is only one aspect of this monster. When someone commits suicide, that's ego, too. Everything that feeds the "self which is separate from God."

When a person has humility, the true self can awaken. Could that be "God giving faith?" When someone else is not humble, their true self is forced to remain in slumber. We can show compassion for those who are arrogant and ask them questions which provoke realizations that might lead to humility. This is us helping them toward the faith that God is anxious to give us all.

The Nazarene teacher also says not to cast our pearls before swine. So, we need to be judicious in how we handle the lost sheep.

One can always do a job with OR without ego. Interpreting prophecy is no different. With humility, we can interpret prophecy to gain greater insight into God's plan. That's a good thing. Bragging about it may not be. I sometimes brag, and others point it out rather quickly. I'm thankful for that.

The true meaning of prophecy and other scripture is with God. Ask and you will receive. Perhaps not all at once, but patience, persistence and humility are helpful. Again, the quiet, still voice within can be a guide. Being able to tell the difference between this voice and ego, is sometimes not as easy as I would like. But it is getting easier.

I agree with your answer to your question.

I keep asking myself and others, "is your interpretation equal to that of God?" I cannot answer "yes" to that, even though ego would like to.


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Jerami 5 years ago from Houston tx Author

lone77star as always your comments are apreciated and intresting in themselves.

I often find it difficult to answer coments such as this because my mind is flooded with responces, and I just can't choose where to begin.

"IF" the church Constantine built is the beast which John spoke of 230 years prior, And "IF" a week = approx. 9.13 of our years? Then 42 months would = approx.1643 years here.

Lets just subtract 1643 years from the year 2012 and see what was going on at that time.

2012 minus 1643 brings us to about 369 AD.

There were 10 popes, one of these Popes/bishops had been removed from his seat and sent into exile three years earlier. Due to public outcry Liberous was recalled by the emperor to regain his position of authority.

I believe this is what Rev. 13:3 is describing.

One of the heads recovering from a deadly wound.

And if we look; it is at that time that 42 Months is given unto the beast.

As I have said before, when using this mathmatical equation every time a time period is given in prophesy, will find something amazing.

All the pieces of the puzzle fit. And a new fact is revealed.

There are 100s of little details such as the one mentioned above which all fit together with intersecting lines like a spider web which are too difficult to verbally describe.

About three years ago I self published a little book which wasn't put together very well; It appeared more like just a very long list of facts. As I have said before, I am not gifted as a writer.

I think that this list of facts could be taken by someone with the gift of writing and become a much more interesting book. My hubs describe about half of the facts given in the book.

OH! did I mention that I am no good at promotion either?

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