Scriptures Inspired for the L. Ray Smith Followers
I Beseech Born-Again, Spirit-Filled Brethren
God has burdened me with the L. Ray Smith followers, and if I be called to somehow share the truth with them, if it be possible to penetrate the spirit at work, I praise God with all my heart. This hub is to provide scripture inspired as the Spirit leads to shew these that THEY WILL NOT BE SAVED THROUGH FIRE AFTER DEATH.
First of all, we must expose the root of L. Ray Smith. There was/is a hubber on HubPages called "yes2truth" who was an avid follower of this man's teaching, yet I recently stumbled upon a web-posting written by him back in March 2006 called "L. Ray Smith - The Legalist Blasphemer!" in which he states, and I quote, "Myself, like old Ray, having once been a member of Herbert W. Armstrongs's Judaising cult, and upon stumbling across ('stumbling' being a very relevant word here) L. Ray Smith's website and forum, I instantly related to his no nonsense style of preaching/teaching, which in itself is fine, and therein found much Truth being taught, but then, Hello!? I've been here before haven't I? Yes of course I had and there it was, all the time, that old stumbling block of legalism."
Now, I've already exposed Armstrongism in my hub A False Prophet of the Last Days? Another name for this cult is the Worldwide Church of God.
See, the Lord doesn't concern Himself with whether or not these people BELIEVE in HELL. Those who do not accept the Lord Jesus Christ as his/her personal Lord and SAVIOR will indeed have their eyes opened on that Day. The LORD, our Lord is only concerned with the salvation of these who will receive it, and the TRUTH shall set them FREE, AMEN.
To first get a background on their belief system, please preface by reading my hub REFUTE of SALVATION for ALL Doctrine before you pray and ask the Spirit for guidance. This is going to be a HUB OF WARFARE, and those called to post I ask to keep with us, so I don't feel like David with Goliath!! I need my brothers and sisters in the Lord that are called to this purpose to love this group together (LOVE IS THE POWER OF GOD). AMEN. I will continue to update this hub with scriptures should the Lord continue to give them to me for them.
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, should you be led to add inspired scripture to the comments here to prove to these followers that there truly is no salvation through fire after death, please do so. The Lord's children, the saints stand united in Jesus' Name. Where two or more agree as touching any one thing, the Lord will do it. AMEN.
Inspired by the Holy Spirit for YOU
Let's look at what happens to the spirit of man when he dies:
Ecclesiastes 3:20-21 state "All go to the same place. All came from the dust and all return to the dust. Who knows that the breath of man ascends upward and the breath of the beast descends downward to the earth?"
Now, since you don't believe in ETERNAL, let's read just three passages that show us we live after physical death for eternity (forever, not just an age or ages):
Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.… Jesus instructed them, "Don't tell anyone what you have seen, until the Son of Man has been raised from the dead." (Matthew 17:1-9) I thought Moses and Elijah were DEAD?
1 Corinthians 15:52 "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed." Imperishable means we will never decompose (die) ~ even in the Lake of Fire.
John 11:25-26 "Jesus said to her, 'I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?'"
Jesus didn't come to judge the world, right?
John 12:47 "And if anyone hears My sayings, and does NOT keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world" [Now, you might think there is no judgment and that ALL will be saved? Don't let the Devil stop you with just this verse....you must read on:]
John 12:48-49 "He who rejects Me, and does NOT receive my sayings, has ONE WHO JUDGES HIM; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day. For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me commandment, what to say, and what to speak."
Acts 17:30-31 “Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man [Jesus] whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead."
Matthew 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather FEAR HIM which is able to DESTROY BOTH SOUL and BODY in HELL (geenna-Lake of Fire)." Now, since God is love, we are not to fear Him? Look up how many scriptures say to "fear God" as that of having respect. This scripture doesn't say our soul will be saved through geenna, but DESTROYED. He is an awesome God!
Romans 2:5-6 "But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who will render to every man according to his deeds."
Matthew 25:41 ""Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;
Let's witness the judgments of the Father:
Isaiah 47:14-15 "Behold, they have become like stubble, Fire burns them; They cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame; There will be no coal to warm by, Nor a fire to sit before! So have those become to you with whom you have labored, Who have trafficked with you from your youth; Each has wandered in his own way. There is none to save you.
Jer 6:29-30 "The bellows blow fiercely, the lead is consumed by the fire; In vain the refining goes on, But the wicked are not separated. They call them rejected silver, Because the LORD has rejected them.
Ezekiel 18:23-28 "'Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked,' declares the Lord GOD, 'Rather than that he should turn from his ways and live? But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that a wicked man does, will he live? All his righteous deeds which he has done will not be remembered for his treachery which he has committed; for them he will die.
"Yet you say, 'The way of the Lord is not right.' Hear now, O house of Israel! Is My way not right? Is it not your ways that are not right?
"When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and dies because of it, for his iniquity which he has committed he will die. Again, when a wicked man turns away from his wickedness which he has committed and practices justice and righteousness, he will save his life. Because he considered and turned away from all his transgressions which he had committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die.
"But the house of Israel says, 'The way of the Lord is not right.' Are My ways not right, O house of Israel? Is it not your ways that are not right?
"'Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, each according to his conduct,' declares the Lord GOD. 'Repent and turn away from all your transgressions, so that iniquity may not become a stumbling block to you. Cast away from you all your transgressions which you have committed, and make yourselves a new heart and a new spirit! For why will you die, O house of Israel?
"'For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone who dies,' declares the Lord GOD. 'Therefore, repent and live.'"
Let's now go back to the New Testament
John 17:9 "I ask on their behalf; I do NOT ask on behalf of the WORLD, but of those whom Thou hast given Me; for they are Thine."
2 Thessalonians 1:6-10 “For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed-- for our testimony to you was believed.”
2 Peter 2:6 and 9 "And if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly thereafter; then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment.
2 Peter 3:7 "But the present heavens and earth by His word are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men."
1 John 5:5 "And who is the one who overcomes the world, but he (YOU) who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?"
Acts 13:46 "Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles."
Every Tongue Confess is NOT Salvation
Philippians 2:10-11 first states "that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE SHOULD BOW, of those who are in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
James 2:19 states "You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder."
Matthew 8:29 the demons named Legion confess, "And they cried out, saying, 'What business do we have with each other, Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?'" The word "torment" is "torture".
1 Corinthians 13:5 states that Love does not seek its own way. While it's God's desire that all should be saved, He will not force anyone to be saved through judgment or any other means. God is love and love does not force its own way.
Unless the Father Draws (Drags) Him?
John 6:44 states, "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day." Do you think the Father will NOT draw some? You are wrong, according to John 12:32: "But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL men to myself."
Does this mean ALL will be saved? Some will reject His calling based on John 12:48 "He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day."
Obviously, those who hear the Word will be drawn unto Christ by the Spirit of God, for Ephesians 2:8 states "For by grace are you saved through faith". Since we know that faith comes by hearing the Word of God (Rom 10:17), and yet man can reject the Word of God (His sayings), that is a choice. Jesus said He draws ALL MEN to Himself. There is no excuse.
For those who have NEVER heard the Word of God, they are without sin, the Word says in John 15:22 "If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin. Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin." Why do you think the Apostles and all believers are to go all throughout the world to spread the gospel? That is the Great Commission!
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