The Business of "Church"

Bible, or Briefcase?
Bible, or Briefcase?

The modern denominational corporate entity called “church” is a business. It would be a futile endeavor to prove to the contrary once you follow the paper trail. You can even find this same entity in the pages of Scripture, but the builder of the ekklesia does NOT have good things to say about anyone who belong to this corporate religious system.

The Business Plan

Today, many are blinded to the fact that the Gospel has NEVER been a business plan, yet their members promote their particular brand names through various advertising channels and marketing techniques. The strategies are endless as strategic business concepts are implemented to bait people to buy into their religious wares.

Unlike so many, we do not PEDDLE THE WORD OF GOD FOR PROFIT. On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, as those sent from God. – 2 Corinthians 2:17

To be a successful businessman aka “pastor,” certain protocols and principles must be implemented to get people to buy into what they are selling. Before the products can be sold and distributed on large scale, the person(s) behind the product must build a certain amount of credentials (clout) before the “big launch.” Usually, going to a seminary and receiving some credentials and certifications is helpful to the cause.

For we did not follow CLEVERLY DEVISED STORIES when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. – 2 Peter 1:16

The Road to CEO

The aspiring “pastor” will hold meetings with family and friends to do some “vision” casting. Upon a consensus of approval, the implementation of the essentials (start-up-kit) is set into motion.

Starting with the best foot forward is to continue working at a regular job while running the business (“church”) on the side until the spiritual vocation matches the salary/wage of the normal job. This is a start to getting things rolling and a stable launching pad to reaping the benefits of a attaining the elite title of CEO (“lead pastor”) of a new religious organization.

And through COVETOUSNESS shall they with feigned words MAKE MERCHANDISE OF YOU: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. – 2 Peter 2:3

Diversification

One of the keys to a good upstart is “diversification.” You can go to school and work a regular job at the same time to support yourself and your family. Upon graduation, networking with business partners (other lead “pastors”) that merchandise the same spiritual vocations is key. This is a way to understanding how doors into the system work by receiving support and mentoring from fellow entrepreneurs who have a vested interest in helping create your own mission field (business venture). The “I scratch your back, you scratch my back” is set into play and can be leveraged in the future.

DID I TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU through any of those whom I sent to you? I urged Titus to go, and sent the brother with him. DID TITUS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU? Did we not act in the same spirit? Did we not take the same steps? – 2 Corinthians 12:17-18

Financial Backing

The key to every successful business is to have financial backing (tithers). Once this hurdle is out of the way, you are well on your way to growth as people are baited with propaganda that is hard for them to resist. One of the most important principles of success is to cater to the carnal needs of the people until “sainthood” (CEO) status is achieved.

For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By SMOOTH TALK AND FLATTERY they deceive the minds of NAIVE PEOPLE. – Romans 16:18

Growth

Growth brings many different dynamics; therefore, it is good to have people around that share in the same “vision” of success. Confidentiality agreements are integral to the operation running smoothly. Additionally, success is following the one who is achieving success!

Those who are “divisive” to “success” can be easily “taken care of.”

With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they SEDUCE THE UNSTABLE; they are EXPERTS IN GREED--an accursed brood! – 2 Peter 2:14

The numbers don’t lie as time (indoctrination) and investment (tithes) into the “pastor’s vision" starts to pay off. Internal employees as well as outside financial strategists help to launder the tithes of the pew-warmers through various channels so that everything comes out squeaky clean. This called “bearing fruit” (assets).

And constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and WHO THINK THAT GODLINESS IS A MEANS TO FINANCIAL GAIN. – 1 Timothy 6:5

Safeguards

The clergy must submit to board driven agenda and stand by the “name” (business) at all costs. After all, their livelihood and status is dependent upon the system.

Having professionals in your corner is a must. Secretaries, managers, "ministers," strategists, assistants, etc, are responsible for looking after the economics (sheeple) of the “ministry.” When the bottom line is in jeopardy, the CEO decides who is to be “let go.” It is the owner of the business who is sole dictate of those who are not committed enough to the enterprise, and is easily replaced with someone else if need be. The confidentiality agreements coupled with tithing covenants are the safeguards against any "dissenter."

Woe to them! For they walked in the way of Cain and abandoned themselves FOR THE SAKE OF GAIN… - Jude 1:11

“Church” and worldly business models are identical twins. The only difference is the type of mask they put on.

You know we never used flattery, nor did we put on A MASK TO COVER UP GREED--God is our witness. – 1 Thessalonians 2:5

To try to derive any principles from the Kingdom of God attested by Yahshua Messiah and the Apostles in the “church” system is a preposterous notion, but they do.


Thus making VOID the word of God by YOUR TRADITION that you have handed down. And many such things you do.” – Mark 7:13

Brand Name Loyalty

Indoctrination and loyalty to a certain brand name is hard to break free from. Paid staff, the steeple and sheeple are the result of the sophistry of slick and savvy entrepreneurs. The pulpit is a good platform to able to woo the masses. The end result are sheeple who willingly pay the expenses and dues of a man-driven top down structure where the ones at top have a life of ease by burdening their consumers to buy more and more of their wares.

For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having ITCHING EARS they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions – 2 Timothy 4:3

The Bottom Line

The buyers (members) are told that they are part of “God’s plan.” The CEO’s (“pastor’s”) vision (business plan) has been given to him by “God;” it is a “divine” recipe. Anyone who opposes is deemed “divisive” to “God’s plan” (the bottom line); therefore, opposing Yahweh Himself. “Just look at the numbers, they don’t lie” they say, “souls are being won!” Who could not deny the one who has been learned and trained in the religious seminaries of men to be “chosen by God” to implement “God’s vision” (business concept) to the masses? “Do not touch God’s anointed!” they say.

Many Scriptural parallels are used to back the business (“church”) plan, but they are mere distortions to fit their template of commerce.

Satan uses the techniques of this world to veer the masses upon the wide road to glorify religious name brands.

Yahshua Messiah uses Kingdom principles to build his ekklesia as they walk along the narrow path glorifying his name.

“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is WIDE AND THE WAY IS EASY THAT LEADS TO DESTRUCTION, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is NARROW AND THE WAY IS HARD THAT LEADS TO LIFE, and THOSE WHO FIND IT ARE FEW. – Matthew 7:13-14

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Neil Braithwaite 9 months ago

This is a great read.

"Soul Rape" By Shean Smith (Read for free online)

http://www.dividingword.net/Institutional%20Church...


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Ericdierker 9 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

Very interesting condemnation of all churches.


KingdomCome 9 months ago from those of the Ecclesia

PandN- Another outstanding article. The only thing I might add is the fact that most churches have 501 c3 tax staus which mean the government has some control as to what pastors can and can not say. This applies to Catholic church, JW, Mormons many types of Baptist churches and inclueding most TV ministries that take in money. Money is the ONLY reason churches and ministries exist.

It make me sick knowing the churches and ministries are selling the word of God for a profit.

Many blessings.


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PlanksandNails 9 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Neil,

Thanks for the link. I'll take a look at it.


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PlanksandNails 9 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Eric,

There are many people despite looking at airtight evidence cannot see the truth. This is called cognitive dissonance that creates a conscious incompetence. Years of indoctrination create patterns of recognition within the mind. Once the repetition has been etched, any deviation from the pattern will be deemed as a “judgment” and “condemnation” on one’s core beliefs, which in turn is deemed as an “attack” on their identity.

As indoctrination conditioning starts to manifest, the repetitive belief starts to play out in the life of the individual. The unfortunate side effect is rational atrophy where “reasoning” is simply parroting what they have been conditioned to say, “condemnation!”

A lifetime in a particular mindset will be at odds with accepting that they are deceived. Accepting a lifetime of a lie is a hard pill to swallow. To believe that your sacrifice was all in vain for the bank accounts of the spiritual elite is a horrible reality to consider. Many do not want to complicate their lives, but instead continue to consume their branded comfort foods (propaganda) to pacify any discomfort from any “dissenter.”

The business plan of the corporate “church” system has been going on for a long time. Time has molded the minds of the masses to the primitive simplicity of not only accepting the small lies, but the big lies as well. This is called the great delusion.

And with all WICKED DECEPTION for those who are perishing, because they REFUSED to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a STRONG DELUSION, so that they may BELIEVE WHAT IS FALSE – 2 Thessalonians 2:10-11

Facts that prove can be right in front of them, but schotoma creates mental blindness that limits what they want to see and hear, and what they don’t want to see and hear.

Indoctrination is an instilled programming brought on through rituals and repetitions. This creates a comfortable submissive state where manipulation can take place without the knowledge of it even happening. The undisciplined mind will accept anything as “truth.”

The end of all things is at hand; therefore be self-controlled and SOBER-MINDED for the sake of your prayers. – 1 Peter 4:7

Many people are fed their spiritual “food” on trust. They are too busy with other things. How could there possibly be enough time in the day to think about everything? Put simply, a group conclusion with a passing of the tithing basket will suffice for the status quo.

Indoctrinated people are easy to diagnose. Their subconscious minds have been carefully and dutifully packaged. They are products of man-made organized religion. Anything that is contrary to their mind etching is deemed “condemnation” because they are emotional invested into the enterprise.

Critical thinking, discernment and wisdom are met with cognitive dissonance. Their schotoma is the result of believing an illusion so large that they cannot see the truth is hidden right in front of their faces.

This following video link will make a good point on how easy it is for blind the pew-warmer to see what their masters want them to see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo

When you constantly and repetitively focus on something with all your senses, it is very easy to be controlled, manipulated and programmed to see and not see what the spiritual “elite” desire.

Therefore DO NOT BECOME PARTNERS WITH THEM; for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), and try to DISCERN what is pleasing to the Lord. Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead EXPOSE THEM. For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret. But when anything is EXPOSED BY THE LIGHT, IT BECOMES VISIBLE, for anything that becomes visible is light. – Ephesians 5:7-14


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PlanksandNails 9 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

KingdomCome,

Thanks for your additional thoughts. I agree.

I believe this is what Jesus would have to say about the 501(c)3 "churches" of today

But, KNOWING THEIR HYPOCRISY, he said to them, “Why put me to the test? Bring me a denarius and let me look at it.” And they brought one. And he said to them, “WHOSE LIKENESS AND INSCRIPTION IS THIS?” They said to him, “Caesar’s.” Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”


KingdomCome 9 months ago from those of the Ecclesia

PandN- Just want you to know that you have done a great job on all of your articles. I would hope that many who are trying to leave the church system will take the time to read all of them and leave comments if they choose too.

Blessings


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Ericdierker 9 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

PandN, I see your point. It makes sense. It is clearly an occurrence. I would even grant you a common occurrence. The same can be said for our educational system and our politics.

I take issue here. The bold brush all encompassing as though going to church is bad in and of itself. I know many a discerning heart that attends and is not of the pablum fed variety you coat all church attendees with. I am smart and meditate and study the word and have a degree in the field and was a preacher and pray unceasingly by myself. My family is content with following the Bible and not a preacher. But we love to attend church. It is uplifting, song filled and full of ritual that gets you into a revival mood. Even my young son and I (he attends church not Sunday school) talk in honesty about sermons and what it could mean to us. On hot or cold days we do not mind to help and pay for a comfortable place and the sound equipment for a band.

Are we bad sheeples?


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Rich kelley 9 months ago from The Ekklesia

PlanksandNails

When the scales start to fall from the eyes all sorts of things begin to come into focus. Nice that you lay things out to confirm what many see clearly now. I read the book Neil linked a while ago and if one thinks your articles are to inclusive that book will really upset their tea cart. Thank you for showing what is behind much of what most don't want to know anything about. Hay comfort is over rated anyway.

Eric

"Are we bad sheeples?"

I would say, no we are not bad sheeples.

We are sheeple is the problem.

I think the problem is that we can't be the best that Christ has for us by following the system that is a controlling one. The freedom in Christ is stifled in the system. It is not until leaving the system that the journey can begin.

There are nice, good people that "go to church" they are not the problem it is the institutional church system that is the problem.


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Michael-Milec 9 months ago

You know them and much of church business, some of us needed to be reminded of the man-made organization ruled by the by-laws of a corporation. Life is much more beautiful on the narrow road learning from the One who is gentle and humble in heart... There is more to "learn" and resting of my soul.


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Ericdierker 9 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

If we engage the system and take what is positive from it and do not let it control us, what then?

Certainly no one here has visited every church. That goes without saying. So shouldn't your concept be limited to some or most churches. And that same logic holds true to the people that attend. Certainly no one knows what is in the heart of every attendee.

I don't think that people who read my sermons and attend church are probably your sheeples.

But I do not know what is in every man's heart either so I could be wrong.


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dianetrotter 9 months ago from Fontana

As Christians, we are to use spiritual discernment in our affiliations. For example, there are pastors who have engaged in sexual sin. They refuse to leave the pulpit. The members stay and continue to give money. This is not good stewardship of funds God has provided. There has to be some accountability. This is what drives the business plan. As members age and leave the church, the local church dies unless other members come in. There is a huge difference, at times a fine line, between what the Lord wants us to do and what "we" want to do. I voted on 1. but 2. and 3. did not apply to me. It is great that you are a defender of the faith. Thanks Plank!


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PlanksandNails 9 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Eric,

Just like the video in the link in my previous comment to you, some people will not be able, or will choose not see who is the gorilla in the room, even when shown to them.


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PlanksandNails 9 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Rich,

The realty of those who decide to keep wearing their indoctrinated lenses is the same a going to a 3D movie. They sit down in rows and consume pop, candy and popcorn. As the film starts to roll, they are given the impression that what is coming off the screen is real. They laugh, cry, get startled, etc.. It is sensory overload.

The problem is that if they never take off their glasses and can't stop eating the empty calorie foods. Their illusion carries out in the real world. They don't care that a continuous diet of salt, sugar and entertainment is not good. They believe if something makes them feel good, then it must be good for them.

The problem with having an indoctrination addiction is that you don't care about the overpriced concession "goodies." The theatre owner knows that once you get people in through the doors, they will empty their wallets no matter what price it costs for a bag of Skittles.

A - The foundation of the "church" system is a business.

B - The foundation of the Gospel is not a a business.

A does not equal B, nor is AB compatible.

There is a distinction between selling and ministering. The mountains of evidence can be found in Scripture, but I guess Skittles taste better to many.

And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, FREELY give. - Matthew 10:7-8

Being justified FREELY by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus - Romans 3:24

He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also FREELY give us all things? - Romans 8:32

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are FREELY given to us of God. - 1 Corinthians 2:12

Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God FREELY? - 2 Corinthians 11:7

And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life FREELY. - Revelation 21:6 KJV

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life FREELY. - Revelation 22:17


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Rich kelley 9 months ago from The Ekklesia

Aaron

The gorilla in the room links was good, but what was even better is the video that comes on after that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGQmdoK_ZfY


Neil Braithwaite 9 months ago

@ Eric Dierker -

The assembly of followers of Yashua is something we should all try and participate in as often as possible.

However, man has taken the assembly of believers and transformed it into an organized institutional hierarchy.

Almost without exception, all these institutions (and 100% of formal denominations) are examples of what Yahshua taught to his disciples to be wary of in the following episode in Matthew 20.

When the mother of the two "sons of Zebedee" approached Yahshua and asked that he grant them to be "elevated" to his right and left hands (A place of prominence and authority) in the coming Kingdom of Yahweh, Yahshua asked her (And both of them), “You do not know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink?”

Their honest human inspired reply was, “We are able.”

With that, Yahshua stated the obvious to the "power and prestige" seeking mother and her sons, “My cup you shall drink; but to sit on My right and on My left, this is not Mine to give, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by My Father.”

While the majority of people are content to be "led," it's natural human nature for some people to want to be recognized in a position of authority and prominence within a group. This dynamic has been the Achilles heel of humanity since the fall of man - beginning with the power struggle between Cain and Able.

The history of the Israelite people (and all peoples for that matter) demonstrates this time and again. As surly as there are some people who strongly want to lead, there are many more people who want just as strongly to be led.

This is a proven recipe for disaster throughout the ages of mankind.

When we understand this truth about our "fallen" selves, Yahshua's response to his disciples during this particular event becomes more clear:

25 But Jesus called them to Himself and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great men exercise authority over them. 26 It is not this way among you, but whoever wishes to become great among you shall be your servant, 27 and whoever wishes to be first among you shall be your slave; 28 just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.”

Despite the clear words of Yahshua regarding this issue, today's institutional churches continuing to 'organize" their assemblies with a highly flawed and blatantly selfish model - taking advantage of almost every person who calls themselves "Christian."

We must all humble ourselves to the Supreme Leader of the universe - Yahweh - by submitting ALL authority to His son Yahshua!

10 Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, the Messiah. 11 But the greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 Whoever exalts himself shall be humbled; and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted.

Blessings in your search for the truth in all things.

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Ericdierker 9 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

Now I just have a practical question. So I like to sing with others for worship. You know the old psalm concept. In my home we sing and I try not to sing in the shower as it is hard on others.

Now it really helps to have a "band" leader to keep things in step. It is time honored and a good thing for music to be pleasing to the ear.

I kind of like Ephesians 5:19 speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord,"

So just how are we to do this without a worship leader in song? Does it mean we are blasphemous if we like a choir with a leader on the organ?


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PlanksandNails 9 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Michael,

It is good that you understand the difference between the laws of a corporation and the principles of the Kingdom of God. Unfortunately, many believe that they are one and the same.

God Bless.


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PlanksandNails 9 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

dianetrotter,

Thanks for the encouragement. You are right, we need to use spiritual discernment. When we apply the words of Jesus Christ and the Apostles without a distorted indoctrinated lens, the manifestation of body of Christ does not become a business, and spiritual gifts do not become a vocation. When we conform to the things of this world, it will be man-driven. When we conform to the things that are not of this world, the manifestation looks quite different.

Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. - 1 John 2:15

They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. - John 17:16-17


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PlanksandNails 9 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Rich,

That video link was good too. I noticed the gorilla and the curtain change, but what I didn't do was try counting the number of passes. Maybe this principle could be applied to the "church" system. If you don't focus on the main distraction, you will never miss the gorilla, curtain changes, etc, being able to see the deception for what it is.


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dianetrotter 9 months ago from Fontana

Plank, I think Satan is messing with your Hub. Are you looking at the advertisements. "How to shave your bu**"


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PlanksandNails 9 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Diane,

I don't see those advertisements on my computer, but thanks for the heads up. I will keep a look out.


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PlanksandNails 9 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Eric,

You said,

(("I am smart and meditate and study the word and have a degree in the field and was a preacher and pray unceasingly by myself."))

Yes, many like publicly announcing their "righteousness."

“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. - Matthew 6:1

Yes, putting a cape on and tooting a horn can be fun. My son loves super heroes. He makes all sorts of expressions and sounds as he runs around in his special costume. It's cute isn't it? You can even take them out on the town and everyone just ogles over them. My older sons have outgrown this stage as they know that a man with a cape, tights and a horn just isn't right in most circles.

You stated,

(("The bold brush all encompassing as though going to church is bad in and of itself."))

The whole premise of this article is stated in the first sentence, "the modern denominational corporate entity called “church” is a business."

Can you can find in the standard of Scripture that this is false?

I would be interested in the evidence to the contrary.

I'm glad you asked these questions,

(("So just how are we to do this without a worship leader in song?"))

(("Does it mean we are blasphemous if we like a choir with a leader on the organ?"))

These questions are good examples of certain individuals who like to create distractions such as the people in the video links on the selective attention tests.

If you had paid attention to the video evidence, the gorilla and curtain change have been exposed.

As you stated,

(("Now it really helps to have a "band" leader to keep things in step."))

That's true, but I think noisy gongs and clanging cymbals are not for everyone.


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Ericdierker 9 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

Wow this is really intimidating until you get down to the brass tacks. Using the bible as your sword to promote a personal agenda against all churches is remarkable. I really wonder what happened that makes you hater churches so. I bet you were brought up in one and that is where you learned most about your Christianity and then something happened. Hey you just called me out and it was very personal. I gather that is how you like it.

Why is choir music a noisy gong. Did they kick you out of the choir also? Your video is cheap tricks. Guess what. Someone lead the production of that thing. They must be satan if they lead a group into producing something.

Your cosmic drift that there can be no leaders in Christian society is gobbledygook. It makes no sense at all. Who reads the bible in a group? Nobody because they would be leading by your standards. Praying in a closet takes on a whole new meaning with you. "Don't dare hold hands one of you might walk faster than the others and be a damned leader."

You have taken an idea with some merit and blinded yourself with it. You go to far. Have you been to my church? But you judge it through bending the word.

Are we to look at Peter and Paul and dismiss them completely? They lead others. They were not Christ. Christ told Peter he would be the leader of the Church --- what were we all supposed to turn into pumpkins when he died? Were Paul's letters to the churches delivered to a wayside pickle stand or the leaders of those churches? Where does this term elder's come from. Hmm? Many references by Paul, but for sure by your book they could not be leaders.

And most beautifully is how you lead this campaign against churches. Yes you -- you are leading a charge of attack against churches. I think you have more than one follower. You are a leader. Don't think you can get out of it. Let me check real quick -- yes just as I thought, there are ads on your hub. Shoot you are a leader who gets paid for leading.

You have taken your good idea down a rabbit hole of absurdity.

Each church is unique. Ephesians to Romans to Corinthians they are all different. Paul wrote how many letters to churches helping the leaders to lead? Let us see, is it most of the New Testament? Yes. Letters to churches took up most of the New Testament yet to you all churches are bad. Well tell that to the Galatians. Just what is an Epistle? And to who were the written. Firebrands like you? I think not. Did Corinth have ministers to tend to the sick and needy -- probably. Did they lead others to do likewise -- probably.

Take your everything or nothing and do some reality checking. Mother Theresa belonged to a church, shall we damn her to hell for such ministry. Oh and wait she was paid and flew on jet airplanes.

Interesting crusade you are on but it fails for it is not real in the real world.

1Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:"

Boy - I sure am glad you did not convince Paul that all churches are evil, we would never have had this writing.


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Rich kelley 9 months ago from The Ekklesia

Lemmings will not only resist efforts to change their misguided beliefs with all of their mental energy; they will usually attack anyone who dares to question their myths. Lemmings are absolutely terrified at the thought of being labeled as an "extremist", "conspiracy theorist", "racist", or being ostracized for thinking independently. Ironically, the very same lemmings who instinctively ridicule outside of the box "theories", are always the first ones to blindly swallow the most ridiculous theories imaginable when their masters present them.

We can try to open the closed minds of lemmings and free them from their self-imposed blindness, but it is not easy fighting the forces of Pavlovian conditioning and human nature. The chains of ideological conformity have too strong a grip, and breaking them is a difficult task.

Dr. Pastore


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Ericdierker 9 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

Those of us who attend church are not lemmings Dr. Kelley. The mighty majority of us a good God loving people that are not sheeple. Most of us have at least a smidgen of discernment which apparently this crew against all gatherings of Christians do not. Life and love and following Christ is not a proposition and an argument. It is based in love and love can be found inside the walls of a church. A church is not a symbol of hell. Places of worship are not to be condemned because someone like PandN comes up with a better mousetrap -- of course he has not, only anti do I see here. Peter 3:3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.

Pehaps you chastise the gathering of the faithful far too much.


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dianetrotter 9 months ago from Fontana

Plank, I think they rotate. I don't see any now.


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Rich kelley 9 months ago from The Ekklesia

Eric

I admire your defensiveness, but I'm disappointed that your anger has not refuted anything presented in this Hub.


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Ericdierker 9 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

There is not a single point worth refuting. Only the gist of the argument bears merit. The particulars are like sophists in the bushes.


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Rich kelley 9 months ago from The Ekklesia

For something that is not " worth" anything Your almost 100 lines of response to this hub says differently. Your objection are full of emotions. You only use scripture to attack the messenger, try using it to prove the message wrong, now that would be some of that Love you like to speak about.


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PlanksandNails 9 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Eric,

Let me take you by the hand once again.

The whole premise of this article is stated in the first sentence, "the modern denominational corporate entity called “church” is a business."

Why is it a business?

It is because it is a corporate entity.

Therefore, ALL corporate entities called "church" are businesses.

So pick up your "degree" that just fell on your floor from your tantrum and move on somewhere else.

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