Atheism, Peggy Lee and that Old Feeling

If that's all there is, then let's keep Dancing

Peggy Lee ended this conversation before it started. How could a lonely strange bluesy song from the 50's say so much in a short space? The atheist says: "That's all there is". Indeed. The religious or spiritually active answers: "No, that's not all there is to a fire, or a circus, or love". There's so much more in our minds.

"I remember when I was a very little girl, our house caught on fire.
I'll never forget the look on my father's face as he gathered me up
in his arms and raced through the burning building out to the pavement.
I stood there shivering in my pajamas and watched the whole world go up in flames.
And when it was all over I said to myself, "Is that all there is to a fire?"

Is that all there is, is that all there is
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
Let's break out the booze and have a ball
If that's all there is

And when I was 12 years old, my father took me to the circus, the greatest show on earth.
There were clowns and elephants and dancing bears
And a beautiful lady in pink tights flew high above our heads.
And as I sat there watching the marvelous spectacle
I had the feeling that something was missing.
I don't know what, but when it was over,
I said to myself, "Is that all there is to a circus?"

Is that all there is, is that all there is
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
Let's break out the booze and have a ball
If that's all there is

Then I fell in love, with the most wonderful boy in the world.
We would take long walks by the river or just sit for hours gazing into each other's eyes.
We were so very much in love.
Then one day, he went away. And I thought I'd die -- but I didn't.
And when I didn't I said to myself, "Is that all there is to love?"

Is that all there is, is that all there is
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing

I know what you must be saying to yourselves.
If that's the way she feels about it why doesn't she just end it all?
Oh, no. Not me. I'm in no hurry for that final disappointment.
For I know just as well as I'm standing here talking to you,
when that final moment comes and I'm breathing my lst breath, I'll be saying to myself,

Is that all there is, is that all there is
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
Let's break out the booze and have a ball
If that's all there is

Atheists are born with wonderful abnormal qualities. Every resource they seem to require resides in a stable world of self love, faith in their own limitless potential and a sense that the one life they have to live is just fine with them, since they are supremely content. These qualities, and many others that I can not answer at this time, make them unable to aspire for the unseen, desire the indescribable, or quest for all those things for which there is not an apparent answer. Since they are born with this marvelous self containment, it is their blessed state that they embrace the self love of atheism. This is a wonderful state to be in.

Others don't know it, but they should envy the atheist. They never experience doubt or fear. This wonderful set of spiritual skills and states make them so secure that they do not need to ask myriads of questions. It is for this reason that I would like to commend atheists to the highest pinnacle of human evolution. It is just the sorry condition of the rest of the human race that we have not yet gathered unto ourselves the supremacy of the atheistic condition. I can not say any of the religious words I would use to be thankful, so I will just say the atheists are, they just are. They are going to be just fine, and if they are going to be just fine, they should learn how to share their supremacy with the rest of us "little ones".

I realize all of the previous paragraphs seem to be dripping with sarcasm, but read them and they are descriptions of my human state. The provoking question from the Atheist was "what are we lacking". My Lord, I feel that I am lacking in so many ways it would take a book to describe them. I do not feel lacking in skills or intelligence to live life at the physical level. My natural goals have to do with the myriads of issues above making a living, eating, and the whole array of human activities that we participate in.

The "religious" or "spiritual" issues however, they involve more than me. Maybe my standards are too high. Maybe I am a silly person and hope for unseen things that I have no right to be thinking about. And so, I immediately give the day to the Atheist. They are content, and are not befuddled by questions and issues that work on me daily. I surrender. They are as successful as they want to be. They need nothing beyond themselves. I would say that that is the most successful physical way to be on this planet. When I really meet an atheist, I want to just be with them, and see what makes them so content. Alas, too many questions would be rolling around in my head while I was evaluating him/her.

If it happens that atheists have much more complicated lives, then I would say that they have opted for simplicity. Simplicity of thought, and abandoning other modes of thought is not bad, its just less confusing. I think Atheists are just efficient; and if that makes them happy, then more power to them.

To be Provocative

A belief in Reincarnation, which I am not going to dive into now, declares that all of us probably have been an atheist, Episcopalian, Hindu, Shamanistic or whatever in all of our lives. It is in the human spirit to feel self-contained, and then there are other experiences that people live that put them in other "life states".

To be an atheist in a reincarnative context is to force yourself into certain experiences and realizations. The atheist does not wipe himself out of existence, as many religious people would believe. They are just head strong and independent and don't feel a need for a religious life. That doesn't make them strong as much as it probably reveals a historic life which has not yet been tried in many ways. But it doesn't matter.

They will be back. Probably in some other culture, probably in a place of war, or privation or conflict; they will look up into the sky and wonder why the hell things turned out like they did. If they are still atheists, then they will simply go through another experience and return again into the Nameless only to prepare themselves for a new existence. No trouble, we are all "Precious Treasures". If in the end of scores of life times, they still think "This is all there is", then probably they will be granted their "nonwished for" state -- oblivion. Maybe, though, they might ask for one last dance with Peggy Lee.

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georgethegent 4 years ago from Hillswick, Shetland, UK

The atheist doesn't need to ask the same questions as the believer because the atheist lives in the real world.


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Christofers Flow 4 years ago from Denver Author

Exactly. They don't have any other questions. I admire them for their simplicity.


gillsyno1 4 years ago

Yeah cause life is so simple isn't??

What is life simplicity compared to Gods?

We are in awe of everything and just look at the heavens.

For they declare the glory of God.


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Christofers Flow 4 years ago from Denver Author

You're right. I did not even go near life's natural contradictions, shocking ironies and winsome merryment that seems to come from somewhere other than the human realm. I could have gone on forever, but did not want to overcomplicate the atheists plight.


Charles 4 years ago

Are you a believer Christofers.


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Christofers Flow 4 years ago from Denver Author

I am a Super Believer. I am a Syncretist, technically speaking. I believe that Atheists are going through a whole life phase that imparts lessons. However, I believe that we are not going through Salvation/Damnation challenges, but rather Soul Growth Phases. In that sense, probably most would say I am not a "Believer".


Charles 4 years ago

To not believe in something greater than animals and humans is ludicrous a high level of intelligence is required to create something and create something as complex even as a living cell is astounding I've seen fascinating videos of many many things scientifically explained and one was the human sperm it's smart as anything and has so many complex parts.

Its a fact Darwins theory of evolution has fallen apart it's been proven so plenty of evidence out there check it out so those that know this where does that leave us???


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Christofers Flow 4 years ago from Denver Author

I am with you. Consciousness itself, and indeed apparent consciousness in the smallest of creatures and as you have said, "sperm" creates so many questions that it overwhelms. Atheism should just be called a separate Faith in Self, and be done with it.


Charles 4 years ago

Totally right there Christofers.

I know God is there its not a think it's a feel but he's not gonna manifest his spirit in someone who doesn't want to know him how hurtful would it be for a father if his child didn't want to believe that he was his real dad and want to have anything to do with him?

We are not just bodies we have souls bodies are just a dwelling place for them.


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Skeptical Theist 4 years ago from Wichita, Kansas

As my user name suggests, I am a believer, but a skeptical believer. On a positive note, I wanted to share with you and those who have commented to this post what stood out to me. georgethegent had said, "The atheist doesn't need to ask the same questions as the believer because the atheist lives in the real world." The key being that they live in the real world. My favorite fictitious atheist is actually more agnostic than anything. His name is Jubal Harshaw. Jubal is a character in Hienlein's Stranger in a Strange Land. The reader can't help but love this character. He does not rule out God...or gods...or even, theism. He doubts these, but does not rule them out. His construction of meaning...his "belief system" is fluid and open to changing when and if new info is introduced. I find this same amicable disposition among many of my real-world agnostic friends.

Still, when I think about the "real world," I cannot help but wonder if the aspects of reality we limited creatures are able to perceive with our five senses may simply be the tip of some proverbial tip of the "reality iceberg." Super String Theory comes to mind right away. What does this suggest about the full of reality, of which much of this may apparently reside beneath the surface of our ability to perceive it??

This post was good in that it inspires good dialogue on the subject. It would have been excellent, but for its overt employment of sarcasm; but then again, let's face it...sarcasm is one of the more powerful tools in the skeptic's arsenal.

Overall, I find myself interested in checking out more of your articles.

An article calling for the necessary separation of God and religion would go over well with this reader!

Skeptical Theist


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Christofers Flow 4 years ago from Denver Author

I think that atheists are just very comfortable observing the around. "Reality" is too big a word for atheists. They can not explain many many things that are in the observable universe. They just don't care, and they are supremely self absorbed. I think that they have a religion. It's just very comfy to say they don't. They're religion is their limitless belief in themselves - if they don't have moral questions, it's because they are going to permit what they want to permit. It's very simple for them really. They take pride in their defiance of the many institutions that surround them. But that's OK because "pride" is not a problem. It has no negative connotation. "Defiance" is fun because they see themselves tweeking the noses of the less evolved.

I would like to ask an atheist (they would have to be supremely honest) whether they ever deal with guilt. I would think they don't. And there is another source of happiness.


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Skeptical Theist 4 years ago from Wichita, Kansas

I have at least a dozen friends who are openly unbelievers, some atheist, some agnostic. Of these, I have gotten to know nearly half of them pretty intimately. Of these five individuals, 100% have demonstrated grief over situations where they felt they were to blame for something having gone wrong. I would have to logically conclude that this was a demonstration of their absolutely experiencing guilt and attempting to deal honorably with it by seeking people out to make things right. To be honest, my agnostic friends have demonstrated time and again a what appears to me to be a deeper capacity for empathy toward their fellows. They are often more compassionate in their ability to show understanding and tolerance. And worthy of mentioning: none of my agnostic friends suffer from the form of righteousness that ought to make any good creature sick to their stomach (e.g. religious self-righteous holier-than-thou-ism). To bring my point home even further, my agnostic friends are the ones who are more likely to be worried about watching my back, than saving their own precious reputation. They aren't as worried about the classic syndrome of the religious and its tell-tale symptom of, "Oh, my...but if I were to go in there, what might people think" or "Oh, but if I were to befriend HER, oh, my...what should they think down at the church?!" I suspect that "Christofers Flow" has less experiential evidence for demonstrating the logic behind the discourse written above than I do for demonstrating the logic behind this discourse I have just typed up. I am not in the least encouraging youngsters to "throw God out with the bathwater," but at least the agnostics among us have been intelligent enough to necessarily drain the damned tub-water! We who are believers need to rise to our skeptical brother's and sister's challenges. Sorry, I just get passionate when people make remarks that are slanderous about people who think differently than they are accustomed...especially when some of the one's being slandered are folks I call friend...and none of this is anything more than propaganda lies without even the decency of adding one solitary dash of logic.

ST


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Christofers Flow 4 years ago from Denver Author

Dear ST: You have said much and I respect your opinion and where you are coming from.

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