The Emergent Church Apostasy

Emergent Church = False Christianity
Emergent Church = False Christianity
Truth is relative.
Truth is relative.

There is a false Christianity propagating within the Biblical sphere of the Church body. It is leading many astray and is highly deceptive because it subtly cloaks itself in the Christian faith, but "worships" Jesus Christ with ancient pagan (Babylonian) ideologies. This form of doctrine is one of the main contributors to the apostasy that is going on within the church today. In a nutshell, this movement believes that we are in a "post-modern" era of Christianity, and in order to stay relevant with the times, we must change our views and perspectives (“a paradigm shift”) to be more effective as "Christians" in society. This form of "Christianity" is synthesized with post-modern ideas, which encompasses the Emergent Church movement. It is the literal watering down and removal of God’s truth as a goal to bring “unity” and “co-existence” within the world.

I would coin the Emergent Church as spiritual adultery. It is the same as committing adultery on your wife and justifying the action because you are thinking about Jesus Christ while you are doing it.

Biblical truth is being replaced with the good sounding buzz words such as, "social justice" and “unity” coupled with pagan forms of worship. Doctrinal truth is seen as divisive and cannot be fully known; therefore, it is better to be part of an enlightened conversation of endless questions that leads to no real solutions, answers, or conclusions. Any claim on doctrinal truth is seen as being arrogant, or offensive to someone else’s ideas. The Emergent Church movement is the attempt to synthesize forms of pagan worship practices with Christianity.

Prayer labyrinth
Prayer labyrinth
The wares and "feel-goods."
The wares and "feel-goods."
But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. - Matthew 6:7
But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. - Matthew 6:7

There are many churches that are promoting the wares and doctrine of this false movement. Many youth and young adults are being deceptively indoctrinated and groomed into changing their theology and view of the Gospel message. Biblical truth that changes culture is exchanged for culture that changes Biblical truth.

The Bible can be interpreted any way a one chooses because doctrinal truth cannot be known. No interpretation can be fully correct; therefore, the Bible adapts to each person’s individual concept of what truth is.

Personal emotions, globalism, the arts, and mysticism take precedence over true Biblical worship which abandon Biblical truths. This deceptively draws the followers of Jesus Christ, or new Christians into a "new type of Christianity” that worships a mystical Jesus. The Emergent Church literally promotes an earth-centered, one-world-religion; the goal is a man-made utopia that embraces all religions. Each religion has its own truths that lead to God.

This spiritual "paradigm shift" is the transition to a "new" spirituality where the “old” ways of the Biblical Gospel message are no longer effective. What this means is that New Age principles are utilised and the “wisdom” is drawn from these ancient mystical practices and traditions. A "peaceful co-existence" of all religions under one banner is advocated; everyone has, in one way or another, the consciousness of Christ within them. Experiences (feelings) take precedence over doctrinal truth (theology); therefore, if it makes you feel good and excites your senses, then it must be God. The practices of the mystery religions and idolatry are masked in a Christian façade in order to be "seeker friendly" and attract people to fill the pews. Spiritual experiences are not questioned of its source.


Left: Helena Blavatsky, Right: Alice A Bailey of Lucifer Trust, aka Lucis Trust
Left: Helena Blavatsky, Right: Alice A Bailey of Lucifer Trust, aka Lucis Trust
Asherah also worshipped as Ishtar or Astarte.
Asherah also worshipped as Ishtar or Astarte.
Mary or the goddess, Asherah.
Mary or the goddess, Asherah.

The Emergent Church services are designed as smoke and mirrors to excite the senses and create a spiritual mood or ambience. A "unity" of Christianity with ancient pagan ideas ("ancient future worship") are introduced as a way of getting closer to God. Catholic contemplative practices coalesced with medieval monastic disciplines are incorporated as part of the Emergent Church philosophy.

The goddess Asherah, which is Mary in the Catholic religion, promotes a false peace and security of a one-world-religion that will rule the world. This new age of spirituality has been popularized by famous occultists such as Alice A. Bailey (theosophist), Albert Pike (33rd degree Freemason), and Helena Blavatsky (Satanist). "Unity" is the key word in the convergence of all religions into one supreme church.

If doctrinal truth cannot be fully known, then the Emergent Church cannot be the light in the world; therefore, all religions are essentially on equal terms as part of their "conversation" to reach enlightenment.

The quotes below from various Emergent Church leaders adhere to the same principles of well known occultists.


“I would point out that when I use the phrase ‘followers of the Christ’ I refer to all those who love their fellowmen, irrespective of creed or religion.” – Alice A. Bailey – Founder of the Lucifer Trust (web-link)


“I must add though, that I don’t believe making disciples must equal making adherents to the Christian religion….” – Brian McClaren


“People come to Jesus in all sorts of ways. Sometimes people use his name; other times they don’t.” – Rob Bell


“I happen to know people who are followers of Christ in other religions.” – Rick Warren


When we take on the pagan customs and traditions and throw Jesus Christ into the mix, it is trying to mix light with darkness. There is a distinction between the pagan Christ of Babylon and Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is not an add-on of compromise by allowing the world into His Body.


How can you have a genuine relationship with the Jesus Christ of the Bible while taking on the doctrines of demons and the idolatry of the ancient false religions of Babylon?


Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, “I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE. “Therefore, COME OUT FROM THEIR MIDST AND BE SEPARATE,” says the Lord. “AND DO NOT TOUCH WHAT IS UNCLEAN; And I will welcome you. “And I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to Me,” Says the Lord Almighty. – 2 Corinthians 6:14-18


“And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.” - Acts 4:12

The Merging of the Emergent Church with New Age Spirituality

Samir Selmanovic, a rising star in the Emergent Church Movement, thinks it is just fine for someone who is a professing Christian to attend a worship service "with a wonderful Wiccan community."
Samir Selmanovic, a rising star in the Emergent Church Movement, thinks it is just fine for someone who is a professing Christian to attend a worship service "with a wonderful Wiccan community."
The lineage of the Emergent Church
The lineage of the Emergent Church
False Christ
False Christ

Our culture is polluted with all forms of evil. How can a person “engage” it without becoming polluted themselves? We are to live in the world, but not of it.

“Social-action” and “social-justice” is about making the world a better place, which is the same ideology held by occultists of moving towards a man-made utopia. “Social-activism” sounds good because it is noble to feed the hungry and help the poor, but the deception is in the philosophy that we can build God’s kingdom ourselves, or bring heaven to earth.

True faith in Jesus Christ is not about holding hands with false religions. The man-made kingdom that has been prophesied clearly in Scripture is the pagan kingdom of the Antichrist that will come and try to fully eradicate Christianity. When the Israelites abandoned God and worshipped the golden calf, they too turned back to the ancient mystery religions of Babylon, and did not enter into the Promised Land.


For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. – Matthew 24:5



“Behold, I have told you in advance. – Matthew 24:25



“But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.” – Luke 21:28



Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. – John 14:6




Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen – Jeremiah 10:2
Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen – Jeremiah 10:2
Labyrinth
Labyrinth

The Emergent Church has endorsed many forms of worship that have their origins and foundation in paganism and mysticism. When applying the Word of God to these practices, it is clear that God gives no allowance for evangelical monasticism, lectio devina, labyrinth prayer, centering prayer, yoga, stations of the cross, incense, icons, rituals, candles, chanting prayers, breath prayers, and mysticism.

For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator – Romans 1:25

The Vatican Council II
The Vatican Council II

Biblical precedence reveals that the Emergent Church is not the genuine faith of the Bible, but an ideology that promotes a corrupt, pagan forms of worship that exalts the spirit of the Antichrist, rather than Jesus Christ. It will be made clear what the many authors, leaders, and teachers within this movement stand for, and the evidence will explore whether their methods have their foundations in Scripture, or originate from another source.

The Roman Catholic Church originally brought in theses mystical practices and deemed them acceptable. A systematic study of Scripture will reveal that they are a completely foreign concept to biblical principles. Mysticism is a man-made attempt to gain knowledge from God from experiences that bypass the mind, which essentially works its way around Jesus Christ as the sole mediator for our sins.

In 1965, the Vatican Council II joined itself with the aesthetic and meditational practices of paganism by trying to reach a state of illumination by man-made efforts, or from “divine” help.

On March 20th - 22nd 2009 in Albuquerque, New Mexico, an Emergent Church conference took place; the website stated,

“Come to the first large gathering of Roman Catholic, Mainline Protestant, Evangelical, and other Christians seeking to explore this emergence and convergence together. You’ll be inspired by provocative speakers and spiritual leaders and engage in in-depth conversation about our shared quests for: A fresh understanding of Jesus, Spirituality that links contemplation and action, Social justice and holistic mission, Authentic community.


The Emergent Church: Convergence, Conversations and Actions March 20-22, 2009

Self - Realization
Self - Realization
Transcendental meditation (contemplative)
Transcendental meditation (contemplative)
The Koran coexists with the Bible.
The Koran coexists with the Bible.
Savasana
Savasana
Yoga
Yoga

The Vatican Council II: The Conciliar and Post Conciliar Documents, No. 56 states,

“…In Hinduism men explore the divine mystery and express it both in the limitless riches of myth and the accurately defined insights of philosophy. They seek release from the trials of the present life by ascetical practices, profound meditation and recourse to God in confidence and love. Buddhism in its various forms testifies to the essential inadequacy of this changing world. It proposes a way of life by which man can, with confidence and trust, attain a state of perfect liberation and reach supreme illumination either through their own efforts or by the aid of divine help…The Catholic Church rejects nothing of what is true and holy in these religions.”

It is evident that Catholicism stands hand-in-hand with Buddhismand Hinduism.


In, The Mirror Mind (New York: Fordham University Press, 1990) p. 7, William Johnston teaches the deceitful ways to directly experience God. He writes,

“Self-realization lies at the very heart of Buddhism …In self-realization I become one with God just as the object is one with the mirror and just as Jesus is one with his Father.”

When comparing and contrasting the Emergent Church with Catholic mystical practises, it is irrefutably apparent that this movement uses the same techniques and forms of worship.

In the book, The Great Emergence, Baker: Grand Rapids, MI., 2008, Phyliss Tickle denies the Bible for being the sole standard for truth. She says,

“The Reformation… was to answer the question… Sola Scriptura, scriptura sola… While we may laugh and say the divisiveness was Protestantism’s greatest gift to Christianity, ours is a somber joke. Denominationalism is a disunity in the Body of Christ and, ironically, one that has a bloody history… Now, some five hundred years later, even many of the most die-hard Protestants among us have grown suspicious of “Scripture and Scripture only.” We question what the words mean - literally? Metaphorically? Actually? We even question which words do and do not belong in Scripture and the purity of the editorial line of decent of those that do. We begin to refer to Luther’s principle of “sola scriptura, scriptura sola” as having been little more than the creation of a paper pope in place of a flesh and blood one. And even as we speak, the authority that has been in place for five hundred years withers away in our hands.”


In the book, The Purpose Driven Life, by Rick Warren (pg. 88), there is a quote which endorses contemplative prayer techniques which directly parallel those in Hinduism and the New Age Movement. Transcendental meditation (contemplative prayer) is a practice by which a person empties their mind and use vain babblings to get closer to God.

Tony Campolo in his book, Speaking My Mind (pg. 149-150) declared,

A theology of Mysticism provides some hope for common ground between Christianity and Islam. Both religions have within their histories examples of ecstatic union with God … I do not know what to make of the Muslim mystics, especially those who have come to be known as the Sufis. What do they experience in their mystical experiences? Could they have encountered the same God we do in our Christian mysticism?”

In the book, True Self/False Self Unmasking the Spirit Within teaches the concept of centering prayer called lectio divina. The author, Basil Pennington says that through this type of prayer we will learn our real self when we accept the Divine energy within, which is “an expression of the Divine Creative Energies”.


The author, Doug Paget in the book, Church Re-imagined (pg.87,89), endorses the practice called savasana (corpse pose) where someone lies on their back and let their legs fall open, arms hang limp, and eyes are closed breathing in a rhythmic fashion in order to reach a state of “holiness”. As people get up they commit to their daily practice of yoga.

The evidence of these type of practices endorsed by these authors within the Emergent Church are simply leading people into spiritual adultery against Jesus Christ. The result of these pagan philosophies have poisoned the young adult generation into believing the unbiblical concepts of relativism, tolerance, mysticism, and feelings, which supersede the fundamentals of the true genuine faith of the Bible. When there is a “re-thinking” of the simplicity of God’s salvation, it is essentially saying that man can do it better than Jesus Christ can.


Universalism
Universalism

The Emergent Church implies that Jesus Christ puts no demands on anyone because he ate with those who were prostitutes and thieves; therefore, the flag of tolerance and acceptance of sin is waved high. The truth is, Jesus told the rich young man to sell all he had and give it to the poor, Nicodemus was told that he must be born again, and the adulterous women was to go and sin no more.


Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, "One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." – Mark 10:21


Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” – John 3:3


Jesus said, “I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more.” – John 8:11

One Emergent Church youth “leader” conveyed to me, “Thank God for universalism”. In this context of his condescending words, the Word of God was not important for weighing and testing the standard for truth. Universalism is a heresy, which is a theological striptease that distorts the true Gospel. When confronted the only thing he said to me was, “You are not showing the love of Christ” and “You are being judgemental”. The paradox is that you are making a judgement when you are telling someone they are being judgemental. Also, the definition of the love of Christ must be defined first and then applied to Scripture to see whether it aligns with God's truth or not.

The Emerging Church is certain that we cannot be certain; therefore, they cannot make a real stand. What a paradox to be in. Of course the compromising sinner will love this philosophy because there is no accountability for your actions.

For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. - Hebrews 4:12


Mystical Jesus
Mystical Jesus
Jesus Christ comes in our personal preference.
Jesus Christ comes in our personal preference.
Emotions supersede Biblical truth.
Emotions supersede Biblical truth.
Almine is endorsed and described as one of the greatest mystics of our time by world leaders and scientists alike.
Almine is endorsed and described as one of the greatest mystics of our time by world leaders and scientists alike.

The practices of New Age occultism will breed confusion for the immature believer and the spiritual people who want an encounter with God because the Emergent Church is imitating abominable practices that are detestable to God and justifying it by thinking about Jesus Christ while doing it. Because these practices are an abomination to God, Satan is allowed to enter into these people by their free will to deceive them into believing a mystical Jesus instead.


However, they did not listen, but stiffened their neck like their fathers, who did not believe in the LORD their God. They rejected His statutes and His covenant which He made with their fathers and His warnings with which He warned them. And they followed vanity and became vain, and went after the nations which surrounded them, concerning which the LORD had commanded them not to do like them. – 2 Kings 17:14-15


For You have abandoned Your people, the house of Jacob, because they are filled with influences from the east, and they are soothsayers like the Philistines, and they strike bargains with the children of foreigners. – Isaiah 2:6


But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons - 1 Timothy 4:1


Tony Jones, the national coordinator of the Emergent Village and author of Soul Shaper: Exploring Spirituality and Contemplative Practices in Youth Ministry (2003), and The Sacred Way: Spiritual Practices for Everyday Life (2005) wrote,


Following some experience with the ancient practices outlined in this book, you may decide to incorporate some of them into your personal Rule of Life. An example of a rule could look something like this: Pray through two centuries of the Jesus Prayer in the morning and evening every day. Keep the Sabbath from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday every week. Walk a labyrinth once a month. Take a two-day silent retreat once a year. Fast and walk the Stations of the Cross every Friday during Lent. Take a 28-day Ignatian retreat every decade….”


You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth.“You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me – Exodus 20:4-5

To be blunt, the Emergent Church is bound within the traditions of men and demonic gods of eastern religions that will only lead to a bankrupt spirituality that is in opposition to Biblical truth.

The true Gospel of Jesus Christ is objective and can be comprehended. How do we know?

“So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.“A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.“Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. “So then, you will know them by their fruits. – Matthew 7:17-20

We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ – 2 Corinthians 10:5


This article shows the evidence of the satanic teachings that are within the Emergent Church philosophies; this is only the tip of the iceberg. It is clearly apostasy and rejects the Biblical Christ for the false Christ of Satan, which promotes self-realization and enlightenment through deceitful pagan practices. Do not be misled by these false teachers and leaders. God commands us to not surrender, compromise, or have fellowship with those who claim to be true Christians, but are in the world of pagan mysticism. If you have taken part in theses practices, I encourage you to dig deeper in the Word of God and research the true origins of this type of worship.


Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? – 2 Corinthians 6:14


"God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." - John 4:24


© 2012 Pn'N

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Johan Smulders 4 years ago from East London, South Africa

The Word of God has the answers and we need to find them. As soon as I believe I have all the answers and others don't I am acting with arrogance and need to go back to the Word that is rich and challenging and keep letting God speak to me!.


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PlanksandNails 4 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Johan Smulders,

Often, when Biblical interpretation is discussed on basic doctrinal truths, some will say, "but that's your interpretation." The fact is, there is often only one correct answer to what God has spoken in His Word. It has nothing to do with whether we have the answers, but providing the evidence of the true answer that God has revealed in Scripture.

Lack of basic Biblical foundation is not arrogance, but ignorance, or blatant disregard for the truth, especially when a person claims to be a Christian.

I agree, the answers can be found in God's Word. Unfortunately, many do not weigh and test their opinions with Biblical truth and allow their emotional state, or personal bias to take precedence.

Thank-you for your commenting and reading on this subject.

God Bless.


Nemesis 4 years ago

Ok, what do YOU believe. You are quick to judge others and declare them apostate. Your words are so full of venom and hatred for what you declare to be an alternative gospel, but you won't tell us what you believe. Declare yourself. Take a stand. You stand against so much--tell us what you are for. Let me guess, it's obviously not the love of Jesus, because you demonstrate none of that. You are a fraud, a hack, and a disgrace to Christianity. You are Matthew 17 incarnate. Please shut up.


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PlanksandNails 4 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Nemesis,

Scripture affirms that these pagan practices are ungodly, and are judged by it. If you do not agree, you need to provide evidence to the contrary other than an emotional rant. Feel free to use any of the text that I have written here, or any other of my themes, and we can walk it out.

What I believe has been expressed in the many articles that I have written. Feel free to peruse them as I have made a stand on what I believe.

("Let me guess, it's obviously not the love of Jesus, because you demonstrate none of that.")

There is a difference between guesswork and providing evidence to the contrary. All you have shown is an ad hominem fallacy based on an irrelevant personal premise on the subject here.

Here is your error in reasoning:

Person A makes claim X.

Person B makes an attack on person A.

Therefore A's claim is false.

Without any relevant evidence, your comment does not authenticate other than emotional reasoning. Our emotions are a response to our thoughts; therefore, they cannot be taken as evidence.

("You are Matthew 17 incarnate. Please shut up.")

If it is Scripture that you want to use as the standard for truth, then you need to demonstrate and clarify your reasoning, and why you have come to that conclusion to substantiate your claims. Emotions don't change the truth.

Why do you refer to yourself in a plural form? Your name gives you away. Look in any thesaurus and see what your name is synonymous with; it pretty much sums up what the Emergent Church leads to.

We find the truth in God's Word.

"And how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." - 2 Timothy 3:15-17


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tlmcgaa70 4 years ago from south dakota, usa

Planksand Nails...what you say here is truth. (you knew that =)...) and it is good to meet you. i will be following your articles here when i am done typing this. it is good to see someone writing the truth, not their interpretation but the truth in GODs Word. from my personal experience, i have found people who have darkness in them see truth to be hateful and anyone who speaks it speaks it filled with hate. they do not know what love is. GOD bless you.


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PlanksandNails 4 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

tmcgaa70,

Thanks for stopping by and reading this theme.

The three things we use in our lives are facts, faith, and feelings, but if we use them in the wrong order, it leads to deception. Without facts, there is no foundation for truth; we don't build a roof before the foundation is laid. Facts are the foundation, faith is what ersts on the foundation of the facts. Our feelings should come after; otherwise, the cart is put before the horse.

The facts are true regardless of our faith and feelings. When we put value, or put credence to something, we have faith in that object. The facts of God are eternal, but our feelings change one day to the next regardless.

What is important to understand is that many people want peace with God, but are allowing their feelings to take precidence over God's facts.


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tlmcgaa70 4 years ago from south dakota, usa

very true.


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Dreamjar 4 years ago from Florida

I apperciate this article and would just like to add that the only way to follow the philosophies of the 'Emergent Church' is to eliminate the validity of the Bible.

Unless you choose to believe in a god that would set forth clearly defined rules and would then create a different set of rules you can not claim all religions as valid. It is the Bible in the Christian faith that says what the 'line' is for what is acceptable and what is not. It makes itself exclusive and declares other paths as wrong. Therefore in order to believe there are many ways to god the Bible can not be true.

I don't believe my creator would so devilishly set His creation at odds with each other. There can only be one truth. It is possible that the Bible, the Koran, etc. are all wrong but they can not be all right.


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PlanksandNails 4 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Dreamjar,

("It is possible that the Bible, the Koran, etc. are all wrong but they can not be all right.")

There are those that believe in their own truth. The problem with the Emergent Church is that experience supersedes truth; therefore, their truth is relative. There are no real guidelines, or doctrine because everything is interpreted to feelings and opinions. The third comment on this hub is evidence of this. That person's truth is not derived from Scripture, or historical evidence, but their own personal feelings and ad hominem attack.

The Emergent Church has redefined the Biblical God to one that loves "unconditionally" and does not judge sin, or require repentance.

True Christianity follows the doctrinal guidelines set in Scripture. To reject the Bible as infallible, redefine it, and replace it with subjective mysticism is a completely different religion all together.

If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself. - 1 Timothy 6:3-5


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Dreamjar 4 years ago from Florida

Their own truth... that is the problem.

Trust in the LORD with all your heart And do not lean on your own understanding Proverbs 3:5


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krillco 4 years ago from Hollidaysburg, PA

I fully agree that our emotions should not lead us, and that the objective truths of Scripture abide. Yet, emotions do exist and we are made in God's image, so emotions are important and have great value for informing us of things spiritual. Of course, the task is to bring my thoughts and emotions in line with the Gospel. We should never be tempted to denigrate or 'throw out' emotion; Jesus Himself demonstrated the holiness of things like compassion and love. We (all) see through the glass darkly. Those who may claim 'special knowledge' in the spiritual realm (whichever spiritual realm) are either deceivers or Gnostics.


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PlanksandNails 4 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

krillco,

Unfortunately, the church of today is lead by emotions; what is preached from the pulpit is made to gloss our eyes over and tickle our ears. What happens is that our emotions become a god and take presidence over Biblical truth. It can become a problem when we let them rule and guide us because of our fallible nature. When we are constantly being fueled by our emotions, we can be mistaken into believing it is the Holy Spirit

Emotions are really neither good or bad, but it is the behaviour that results from them. God cares about our emotions and they can be a part of our worship to Him, but when it comes to spiritual discernment, the only way to test those emotions are on Biblical precidence.

Thanks for your thoughts.


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PlanksandNails 4 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

tlmcgaa70,

I'm not sure what it is that you are referring to as an attack. There is nothing you have written here that I disagree with. I thank-you for sharing your thoughts and personal experiences.

God Bless!


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PlanksandNails 4 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

tlmcgaa70,

("The third comment on this hub is evidence of this. That person's truth is not derived from Scripture, or historical evidence, but their own personal feelings and ad hominem attack.")

I was referring to the *third comment* from the top, which refers to the comment Nemesis had made, not yours. Your comment was *fifth*; therefore, it has no bearing on you whatsoever.


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Michele Travis 3 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

This is a wonderful hub. Thank you for writing it. There is so much I need to learn.

God bless you.


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FSlovenec 3 years ago from San Francisco, CA

Well thought out and written..thank you..living in San Francisco we see all kinds of this stuff..the Bible is the truth as written and not difficult to understand as said in Luke 10:21 "I praise you Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned and revealed them to little children, Yes, Father, for this was your pleasure." also in the later days even the elect will be deceived.. thank you


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PlanksandNails 3 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

FSlovenec,

I am encouraged that you are aware of the deception of the Emergent Church movement. Thank-you for the Scripture verses and the affirmation.

God Bless.


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lambservant 3 years ago from Pacific Northwest

I left my church of 21 years about 4 or 5 months ago, one of many reasons being that the pastor had strong Emergent church leanings. After Love Wins (Rob Bell) came out our pastor was asked about hell and from the pulpit he offered a plethora of different views, prefaced with a remark that it is hard to believe 95% of people are going to hell and only a small amount are going to make it. He quoted all the verses he knew evangelicals would quote to defend the true biblical view an twisted them rather grossly. At the end he said "In the end, there is probably some truth in all of them (speaking of all the different theories he presented on hell). The only reason I know how he concluded that way was listening to a recording later because I, and several other walked out.

He quoted often from the emergent leaders and often did book reviews of their writings on his blog. Icons started showing up around the sanctuary because the gal that put them there (a dear friend) said it's nice to have a visual to help us pray. It seems very innocent to most people there because after all it was a cross. But I saw the beginnings of mystic types of worship. The last prayer meeting I went to I walked into the sanctuary and I had this cold, foreboding inside. The prayer meeting was rather lifeless and I couldn't shake this icky feeling in my gut. As I was leaving the sanctuary I noticed in the alcove a labrynth model on a table and a labrynth on the floor. It was just made out of white papers with Scriptures laid out in labrynth style, and again I got was told it was a helpful visual to pray. I am glad it was Scripture at least but it just didn't feel right.

I think it can start in very subtly and as you said, the EC are good at using persuasive rhetoric. Well written and good information.

I forgot to say your images are actually pretty good at nailing home some of your points, but I have to say respectfully, a bit of overkill in that I get distracted and lose my place where I'm reading. Maybe it's the ADD in me. That is a minor thing though.


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PlanksandNails 3 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Lambservant,

There are more and more people who are realising that the modern "church" that they are in has been compromised. I am encouraged that you were bold enough to leave and be free of its heresy. The spiritually dead "church" that you left has embraced the doctrine of demons. Opening themselves to this will lead to the consequence of facing the wrath of God. All we can do is provide evidence of truth so that they will hopefully come out of their deception. Many leaders that promote these heresies have already been given over to a reprobate mind because they have chosen to believe a lie when confronted with Truth.

Sorry about the plethora of pictures. I really wanted to drive home the point. Yes, there is a lot :o


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Michele Travis 3 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

Please forgive me for commenting twice, but this is happening so much. So many churches are combining. Jesus Christ stated

You can only know God through Me. And how could Jesus have been the Son of God without being born of a virgin? Also, how could He have filled so many prophecies that had been written so many years before He had been born? No other religion ever had that.

We are warned satan would blind us. All of the thing that the book of Revelation we can see happening, but people are denying it, even though Revelation even states they will deny it.

Yes, there are people who are realizing the modern church is compromised, but it is still growing. There is one that is Islamic and Christian.

The Koran does not believe Jesus is the Son of God, so how can Christianity and Islam be one?

These things, I have trouble understanding.


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PlanksandNails 3 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Hi Michele,

You are welcome to comment any time.

You are right there are a lot of things that Jesus Christ foresaw that are happening right in front of our eyes. The syncretism between Islam and Christianity is called Chrislam. All lot of "Christian" leaders are endorsing this doctrine because they want peace and greater cooperation with each other. Their intentions may seem good, but this will lead Christians and Muslims astray from the true and genuine Gospel with a false belief that Allah and Yahweh are the same God. There is a danger with trying to reach a common ground as there will always be compromise by mixing worship of a false God with the the true and genuine one. Chrislam is no different than the Emergent Church in that they to try mix false religions that are incompatible with each other. The terms like cooperation and unity are paving the way to a one world religion.


Hxprof 24 months ago from Clearwater, Florida

This was a good read - you defined very well the agenda of the end of the age false church, or what I call Churchianity. I left my church back in 2006 when the minister at that church insisted on a pre-trib rapture; there were many more problems, but that false doctrine is especially destructive because it keeps so many Christians from pressing in, obeying all that Christ taught


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PlanksandNails 24 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Hxprof,

“Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins - Revelation 18:4

I am blessed you have heeded the call. Thanks for your comment.

God Bless

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