Begotten of The Father Before All Worlds?
Test the spirits (messengers)
The Trinity doctrine teaches that the Son of God, as a member of the Godhead (theotētos – Deity), existed eternally as a separate person from the Father and the Holy Spirit, and each is not the other. The Nicaean Creed states of the Son, "And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds". Is this fourth-century AD traditional teaching something that can be proven by scripture? Are you willing to “test the spirits to see whether they are from God” (1 John 4:1)? If you are, continue with me.
How do we know whether a ‘spirit’ that delivers the message is ‘from God’? “Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:”
We can establish that Jesus Christ existed before He came in the flesh, when we observe passages such as John 1:1 and 1:14. For the sake of accurate interpretation, I am going to translate the Greek because this “opens our minds to understand the scriptures” (Luke 24:25):
John 1:1: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with [pros – to] God [Theon - object], and God [Theos - subject] was the Word.” You may not yet understand ‘The Word was to God (object)’ and I will expound on that. This does not mean The Word (Son) was facing or speaking to The Father; The Word was facing or speaking to ‘Elohim/Theon’(object), which includes angels, magistrates, and even prophetically, us (Ps 82:6; John 10:34). You can look up the definitions of ‘Elohim/Theon’ in the Interlinear by clicking here. “God” (Theon) as an object is rightfully capitalized, because of the divine state of angels, magistrates and ‘sons of the Most High’, just as “The God”, aka “The Deity”, aka "The LORD" is Divine (Col 2:9). You may find this a bit too challenging to comprehend; however, let’s move on to simpler territory:
John 1:14: “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
If we accept that God was the Word and that The Word was made flesh, that would then indicate that the eternal “God was manifest in the flesh”. This is true and confirmed in 1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV) “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” Some argue the Greek does not contain the word “God”, but "He", so we must go to the prior verse to confirm the context: vs. 15 “But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.”
The Only Begotten Son
Let’s go back to John 1:14. Did you notice that because the Word was made flesh, we beheld the glory of the “only begotten of the Father”? What is the foundational verse of the Christian faith?
John 3:16 (KJV):
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
I guess this would then pose the questions, “What does ‘begotten’ mean?” and “WHEN was God’s only Son ‘begotten’”?
If we go back to Genesis 5:1 ~ “This is the book of the generations of Adam”, we can see the word “begat” used over and over again: Adam begat Seth; Seth begat Enoch; Enoch begat Cainan, etc. No doubt, the word “begat” means to give birth to a child. Nowhere in the Bible do we see a child begotten without a father and mother, even in the case of Jesus …unless, of course, you believe the Son of God existed as the eternal Son before His incarnation. If that be true, by what Mother was He begotten? Oh yeah! Egalitarians believe the Holy Spirit is the Mother! Twisted!
This then brings us to the Biblical substantiation that the Son of God, His only begotten, became the Son when the Spirit of God conceived Him in the womb of His mother, Mary.
I do ask you to “test the spirits”, yet again when it comes to Who ‘Fathered’ the Son. If the Holy Spirit is a separate person from the Father and is not the Father, He (not She) is the Father of the Son. However, the Old Testament calls God the Father, LORD (Yehovah or YHVH) and 2 Cor 3:17 clearly tells us that “the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” It’s too bad that the Greek doesn’t use all CAPS when referring to the LORD. Eph 4:5 tells us there is only ONE LORD (Kurios, Greek equivalent of Yehovah). YHWH is the LORD.
Getting back to the subject of “begotten”, we could go to Luke 3:38 and observe the reverse genealogy of Adam: “[Cainan] which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God". If Adam was the "son of God", do we decide that Adam was not begotten of a woman, so the 'eternal Son' need not be either? In this case, Adam was created from the ground. He certainly had a beginning. Indeed, he was not begotten, but created. If we were to use this verse to show God could create His only Son without begetting Him, then the Jehovah’s Witnesses are right ~ Jesus was created. Of course, they believe He was created before He was begotten, meaning He cannot be God who created all things (as declared in the Holy Bible in John 1:3 and Col 1:16), where they insert the word “other” in their NWT; He (Jesus) created all “other things”.
Now, that’s twisted scriptural interpretation! This certainly contradicts the “Eternal Son” concept and why they, as well as the "Eternal Son" believers cannot accept the truth, that Jesus is the Creator, God Himself. Surely, if God created ALL things, He did not create Himself. Something cannot be ‘eternal’, if it was created. The truth is, the Son of God, Jesus Christ, when it comes to being called “the firstborn [begotten] of every creature” refers to His birth of water (the womb of Mary) and the Spirit (the Father). Likewise, we are ‘born of water and the Spirit’ when we are ‘born again’ (John 3:5), then called a new creation! (2 Cor 5:17) As the Son of Man, Jesus became the ‘last Adam’, the firstborn of the new creation! (1 Cor 15:45)
Is 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, and He that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by Myself."
Do you see any correlation between "The Spirit of God [El] has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life" (Job 33:4), and "the last Adam became a ['ho' meaning The] life-giving Spirit"? (1 Cor 15:45)? The Spirit of God is The Spirit of Christ = The Holy Spirit (God)!!
Rom 8:9 "However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him."
How about the Mormons. Are they right? After all, if Jesus was the pre-existent, begotten Son that came in the flesh they must have been ‘begotten of the Father’ before being born in the flesh! THAT’S TWISTED, too!! God obviously copulated (since male and female are made in His image) with a ‘goddess’ in order to conceive Jesus, Lucifer and them ‘in the beginning’…oh my.
Bottom line is, there is no copulation in heaven, for there is NO MARRIAGE (Mat 22:30). The only spiritual marriage we see throughout the Bible is that of the Bridegroom (Jesus) and the Bride (the Church). The human husband and wife created in His own image (singular - Gen 1:27) is a picure of this; their children a picture of the ever-growing family of born-again believers (Elohim). Understand that there is only One Divine Husband and He is the LORD, the Husband to Israel (Jer 31:32; Rom 9 and 11).
He Knows You
Don’t you see the error in the doctrine of the ‘eternal’ Son? Jesus was NOT created, but is the Creator Himself. He is the eternal, Almighty God Himself! You think that sounds twisted? Consider the following facts:
Before the birth of Christ, the Jews only referred to ‘sons of God’ (Elohim) when it came to angels (Gen 6:4; Job 38:7) and the ‘sons of the Most High’ (Ps 82:6), those who lived by faith (Hab 2:4).
Consider also, the vision of Daniel found in 7:13,“I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought Him near before Him”. According to the interpretation given by the angel, this vision had nothing to do with Jesus, the Son of Man, standing before the Father. Verse 22: “Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.”
You might wonder about God knowing Cyrus, David and Jeremiah before they were ever born. After all, Isaiah prophesied about the birth of Cyrus before he was born in 44:28 and 45:1. David wrote in Ps 139:16, “Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in Thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.” Likewise, God told Jeremiah, “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.” (Jeremiah 1:5)
This does not mean God created these men before they were born, but ‘knew’ them. This is about the fore-knowledge of the Creator. In the same way, the Lamb of God (the flesh of God) was fore-ordained as written in Rev 13:8 “And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him [Antichrist], whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” The Lamb, Jesus, was not slain prior to that day at Calvary. Hebrews 9:26 confirms, "For then must He often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the age has He appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself."
Perhaps we can better understand Jesus’ prayer (as the Son of Man) in John 17:5: “And now, O Father, glorify Thou Me with Thine own Self with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was.” Did Jesus have glory with the Father as a separate person before the world was? No. To confirm this, let’s go up to verse 1 of this chapter: “These words spake Jesus, and lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify Thy Son, that Thy Son also may glorify Thee.”
Acts 20:28 “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which He hath purchased with His own blood.”
Do You Know Him?
Jesus Christ has indeed come in the flesh. He IS the LORD God Almighty, the First and the Last, Israel’s King and Redeemer, our God and our Savior, I AM:
Isaiah 6:3; Rev 4:8 “Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.”
Isaiah 9:6 prophesied “For unto us a child is born [begotten], unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”
Isaiah 44:6; Rev 2:8: “Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his Redeemer [NIV: Israel’s King and Redeemer] the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside Me there is no God”; “And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive...”
Isaiah 45:21; Titus 2:13; 2 Pet 1:1: “Is it not I, the LORD? And there is no other God besides Me [first person], A righteous God and a Savior [not two persons]; There is none except Me [first person]”; “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ” [not two persons]; “Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ [not two persons]”.
Exodus 3:14; John 8:58 “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and He said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.”; “Jesus said unto them [Israel], Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I Am.”
John 14:7 “If ye had known Me, ye should have known My Father also: and from henceforth ye know Him, and have seen Him.”
Exodus 20:3 “Thou shalt have no other gods before Us.” No; that’s not what He said. “Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.” May our LORD (Yehovah/YHVH) aka Yehowshua aka Yeshua aka Iesous aka Jesus Christ BE PRAISED.
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