The Exact Representation of the Sons of God

I and the Father are One.

When we see Him, we will be like Him.
When we see Him, we will be like Him.

If you see Me, you see the Father.

Hebrews 1, God after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days, has spoken to us in His Son whom He appointed heir of all things through whom also he made the world (Age). He is the radieance of His glory and the EXACT REPRESENTATION OF HIS NATURE...

What does in mean to be the exact representation of the sons of God? Literally what it means is, we are going to do what He would have done if He himself were going to do it. But look, John 20:19, On the evening of the first day of the week,” (this first day of the week, by the way, is the day on which Jesus is raised from the dead) "when the disciples were together with the doors locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, 'Peace be with you.' After He had said this He showed them His and His hands and His side and the disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord. Again Jesus said, 'Peace be with you. As the Father has sent Me, I am sending you'." That sounds like a commission, doesn't it? "As the Father has sent Me, I am sending you." That means He came to represent the Father, that He claimed that He was here to do the will of the Father, and restricted Himself, utterly, to the will of the Father. Saying, in effect, "I only do what I see My Father doing; the Son can do nothing of Himself." In this case, what the Son is saying is, "I am the Agent, the Father, My Father, is the Principal. In the principal and agent relationship, the Father has come in the form that you're now seeing.” Because the Father is a Spirit, it is not necessary for Him to show up as a human body, but He may show up IN a human body. And Jesus was saying, “I am the human body in which God's fullness is present. So whatever I am doing, it's not the body that's doing it, it's the One who is in this body who is doing it; My Father is in Me, I am in the Father.” In other words, “The Father is actually present with Me, in Me, by His Spirit.” And “I am in the Father,” meaning, “Everything I do I claim is being done by the Father. So whatever the Father is doing is evident in Me and it's not My works, but it's the Fathers works."

So thats what He meant by, “I am in the Father.” “I am under the authority so completely, so fully as to make it that My presence here is inconsequential except that I am a vessel that’s been given to His use. Everything I’m doing is what He is doing, so I am trusting that whatever He is doing will be how I live.” What if what He's doing requires you to die, as in the case of Jesus, what then? Then, you obey the Father. So the scriptures say, "For the joy that was set before Him, He endured the cross, despising the shame." In other words, He knew what God would do, He knew that God would resurrect Him from the dead. But it was a shameful thing to hang on the cross, so He despised being put to such shame. Yet the joy of following the Father and seeing what the Father was doing, that joy that was set before Him was the strength that caused Him to endure the cross. “So the joy of the Lord,” the scriptures would say, “is my strength.” Joy in adversity, joy is not necessarily laughter; joy is the anticipation of seeing what God will do through this thing.


So the kingdom of heaven has been described as righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. Because while you are waiting for the thing to unfold, your confidence is yet in the Lord. So the one who is God's agent understands that he or she is put to the difficult task of embracing what God is doing in the moment. And they embrace it with the joy that is set before them. Namely, as you come through it, the mind of the Lord in the matter will be revealed to you more and more. And the light and momentary trials that you go through are nothing to be compared with the joy on the other side of it. And the joy also includes your reward.

So God is not putting to mindless or meaningless service, those who put their trust in Him but He will put you through whatever it takes, including death, and you must be willing. In fact, in the process, whether you physically die or not, the reality is that you do die everyday. Everyday you die to some aspect of your being that opposes the nature of God and opposes the purposes of God in you. Your service to God indeed often takes the path of you dying to some aspect of what opposes God.


So it’s not a benign relationship between the Father and His subjects or between Christ and His ambassadors; it's very active, very involved process in which He puts to death everything in the person that opposes Him so that the use to which He may put that person may be fully Himself. You see, you must understand that it's God's intention, and the specific intention of Christ, to live fully in you. Now He will not override your will to the contrary, He will not override your will and force you to do anything. But if you submit to Him, He will consume everything that is independent of Him, in you.

What then is your trust? Your trust is that He is the supreme expression of the thing that you were put in the earth to do. So if, for example, He's put you in the earth to conduct business, then your trust is by you being put to death in the areas such as manipulation, such as attempting to control; now you being put to death in those areas He has the opportunity to be the supreme business man. Well what business can He not successfully transact and conclude if He is the King of kings?

The thing we have to keep in mind you see, is He is the perfect expression of everything that we are called to be. And He is vitally interested in expressing that through you; if you will permit it then, you in Him will become the greatest expression of anything your life could possibly have produced. In my own life, I’m fully aware of this. I had a well defined path that I wanted to engage, I knew very well what my strengths were and where I could succeed. But as I proceeded along my journey and He began to make His demands on me, my choice was to decide whether or not I was going to die to the way I wanted to run my life and to give Him the same life and let Him be what He had put me on the earth to be, through me. And that wasn't easy, because I had very well defined ideas of what I wanted to be and how I was going to get there.


Really, there's nothing you can give to the Lord, but He will give to you everything. There's nothing you have that's worth anything to the Lord, except you. People think that if they give what they are to the Lord, that somehow they would become. That's like the boy with the five loaves and two fish who would have thought if he gave what he had to the Lord then he wouldn't have what he had. The fact is, this is what he got: He got to eat all he wanted because of the miracle of the multiplication of the loaves and the fish. He got to eat all he wanted and he got to be remembered forever as the boy who supplied the means by which the Lord then fed the multitudes. He got everything and then more.

My point is, when the Lord elects to send you, He wants to be the one who goes in you and who does in you and who accomplishes through you, that's what He wants. He's able to do that by being in you. How is He in you? He’s in you by His Spirit. And then you're allowed to be in Him. How are you in Him? By submitting all of what you do to His oversight and care. Your hope then is He will give you creativity greater than you could come up with; He would give you insights greater than you could possibly generate yourself. After all, who is the Holy Spirit? There are seven characteristics associated with the Holy Spirit, probably for our purposes right now I want to mention four of them: Wisdom, knowledge, understanding, and counsel. These are four of the seven spirits of God. The other three are lordship, power, and the fear of the Lord, which is of course is the beginning of wisdom. And the fear of the Lord there is a reference to the standard of accountability that restrains your conduct. The fear of the Lord then, is the beginning of wisdom because the fear of the Lord is the indication of what restrains you.

When you see people doing what they want to and using the name of the Lord and accomplishing for their own ends, using the facade of Christianity; you must recognize instantly that they have no fear of the Lord. For the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Now when the Lord sends you out, He wants you to go but He wants to be in you as you go. When you speak, He wants to be the content of your speech; when you act, He wants to be the means by which you act AND what you actually do.

So you, in a sense, provide the shell that entertains His presence as He goes forth in the earth to do through you. But you may say, "But I don't understand that, why would He want to do that?" Here is the generosity of God: He could do it Himself, but in arranging to go in you and arranging to go through you, and arranging to do all that He intends to do through you; His intention is that He would be revealed through you. And the glory that is His, when He does what He does because you've taken His presence with you, the glory that is revealed, you get to carry. Now the alternative to that is the glory of what you can do being offered to Him for His glory.

Now let me get this right: The Lord of the universe, who can do anything, create anything, have anything, be anything; He wants to go where you are going and to do through you and then let you stand there and be clothed in His glory. But you don't want that, you want instead, with your limitation of knowledge, your limitation of resource, your limitation of counsel, your limitation of wisdom, your limitation of understanding; you want to do something out of that model and then say, "Here God. I wish You would take honor and glory in this." Well that’s like offering filthy rags to one who is used to wearing the richest of clothing. Why would He be impressed with the threadbare things you could cobble together and offer to Him? Why would He be impressed with that, when that stuff He would routinely throw into the garbage because of the shear weight and value of what else He has and because of what He is? Why would He ever want to take what you offer Him in lieu of what He already has? And what could you offer Him that He doesn't have?


My point, redundantly stated is, when He sends you, He sends you in the same manner in which the Father sent Him. “As the Father sent Me, so now I am sending you.” That means you are His replacement; He is going away, He is going home, He is returning to the presence of God, He is going to send the Holy Spirit to empower you but now you are being sent to be and to represent Him in the earth.

So what would He do if He were here? Here is what He says, let's go on with the reading from John 20:21, "Again He said, 'Peace be with you. As the Father has sent Me, I am sending you.' And with that He breathed on them and said, 'Receive the Holy Spirit.'" Then He says in verse 23, "If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven." This is the point at which, especially the evangelical person, would just throw up his hands and run, that's why we have never thought that this was the Great Commission. But here He is sending us as the Father sent Him, He is sending us to do what the Father would do and what He Himself did while He was on the earth. He sent us to do what He was sent to do, "Whose ever sins you forgive," yes, you heard me right, "Whosoever sins YOU forgive."

Wait a minute, you see we are far more comfortable with the church forgiving sins because they claim this is what God gave Peter and so Peter built the church and now Peter handed over to the church the responsibility to do what Peter used to do. No, Jesus didn't just give Peter that right. Here is the clear and concrete evidence that Peter was not given the exclusive right to forgive sins. Jesus breathed on how many of them? All of them,and said, "Whosoever sins YOU forgive."

So the Roman claim that the church, which was founded by Peter, has the right to forgive sins is erroneous. It's Jesus who forgives sins and you provide Him with the location in time out of which He can do what He does. This isn't something for the church institution to do through it's agents. We are the agents of Jesus, He said, "As the Father sent Me, so now I am sending you." He isn't saying this to Peter, He's saying this to all of them. And this truth would deny the claim, of the Romans, that this truth ended up as the property of the church because Peter is not the only one who is given this, even if their claim is because Peter was given this and Peter started the church and now all of this ended up with the church. The church, as an institution, is not capable of responding to Christ, but you can. The Lord never sent an institution to do His will; such a thing did not exist in the first century. This came about by Constantine rearranging the order of the church to create an institution that could interface with the government from which it was now empowered. You see, Constantine is the one who changed the ambassadorship of Christ to make, between the church and the state, a nexus.

Actually the church that came out of and became the church of the Roman Empire, cannot also claim to be the church empowered by the Spirit of God, because the Romans gave it the right and support of the Roman government. That changed from this being the work of the Holy Spirit. The power that empowered the church was at one time the power of the Holy Spirit who was sent as the agent of Christ to deploy the power of Jesus to accomplish the purposes of God. The Romans changed that configuration and gave the support of the Empire to the church. At that point the church was no longer the church of Jesus Christ; at the point the church was the church of the Roman Empire because the power that supports it is what determines who it represents.

But even if the claim can be granted that says, "No, no, no. It really was the real church; the Roman empire just recognized it." Then the answer to that particular dodge is this: That Peter was not the only one given the commission to go and represent Jesus, in the specific matter of forgiving sins. Because here He says, "As the Father sent Me, I am sending you," all 11 of them. And by extension, the commission continues through to us, not because the church gives us permission but because we are the ambassadors of Jesus the Christ sent to forgive sins.

Now that raises a whole host of questions which we'll have to answer the next time. Who sins should you forgive? Whose sins should you not forgive? What if you are wrong, what if you make a mistake, what are the consequences? This be another discussion in my future hubs.

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Comments 7 comments

mike 5 years ago

form the article above: 'Jesus knew that God would resurrect him from the dead?

really?

nonsense

why would Jesus ask the cup too be taken from him if that were the case?

why would Jesus sweat fall like drops of blood fall to the floor in the garden of gethsemane - if he knew he would indeed be resurrected?

there was no way jesus could have known

or the whole the thing was a sham

this teaching is seriously flawed

i mean seriously flawed

i would suggest removing it asap


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Leon Elijah 5 years ago from The Household of Sam Soleyn - Durban - South Africa Author

Hi Mike

Psalm 16:10-11 For thou wilt not abandon my soul to Sheol; neither will Thou allow the Holy One to undergo decay. Thou wilt make known to me the path of life.

John 2;19 - 22 Jesus answered and said to them, Destroy this temple and in 3 days I will raise it up" The Jews therefore sai, It took 46 years to build this Temple and will you build it up in 3 days. But He was speaking of the Temple of His body. When therefore He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He said this; and they believed the Scripture, and the Word which Jesus had spoken.

Matt 26:31-32 Then Jesus said to them, you will all fall away because of Me this night,for it is written,I will strike down the Sheperd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered. But after I have been raised,I will go before you to Galilee.

Mike, Your ability to understand this would require you to read your Bible first before you can go shooting your mouth off and you have no context for your flawed theology,because you are not searching for truth but looking for errors.

Grow up young man.


mike 5 years ago

thanks for the condescending advice leon

i am neither young - or looking for errors - the point is that we need to approach this idea with more of a rabbinical both/and mindset - not a greek 'either or' mindset: as god incarnate; the son may well be able to say: i will raise this temple up in three days: for he did only what he saw his father doing - so that would give him some blessed assurance and context with which yo make the declaration - on the other had - we find him on the garden floor in luke with sweat like drops of blood falling from him - as he asked his father to take this cup from me - this must surely speak of some trepidation of what was to come - if he really knew it was ok - why sweat?

it's both and

not either or

i do read the bible - every day - try reading it yourself regarding the making of assumptions about people you've never met

shouting my mouth of?

pot - kettle - black


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Leon Elijah 5 years ago from The Household of Sam Soleyn - Durban - South Africa Author

Hi Mike

I must apologise if I offended your soul, but true heart change comes by offense sometimes. You are are not your soul, you are Spirit.

Quoting you, "there was no way jesus could have known

or the whole the thing was a sham this teaching is seriously flawed, i mean seriously flawed, i would suggest removing it asap".

This is you, Mike, making assumptions about scripture.

So you have a change of opinion regarding the truth,"Its Both". So yes you where shooting your mouth off, by doing that you put your foot in your mouth too. From hindsight I was not making an assumption. Its the soul that does not want to reconcile truth.

Out of the hundrends of true statements that are made in the artical, your soul choose the one that you thought would make for you argument against the knowledge of God. If you are truely searching for truth you should have tried to incorporate into your spiritual identity the truths from the article that would be able to build the Christ in you.

The Bible say, "search and scriptures and hold on to that which is true". This is the posture of a true Disciple. Our greatest enemy is our soul, Mike, it must be put to death and be ressurrected by the Spirit again to blindly follow the Spirit.

Why was Jesus Christ sweating blood?

He was having the most aggressive battle with his soul, at that point in his life, and requested this disciples to watch over his soul with Him, but they fell asleep. Thanks be to the Father that He overcame the soul and put it down, to do the Will of the Father. It was all over when in the same breath that He said, "NEVER-THE-LESS".


Sylvia Joy Mobley 4 years ago

Thank You, Leon. Awesome posting

The Spirit of God reached into the Heart of God and then deposited His Truths into Your Spirit! I receive His Truths Into my Spirit also

He In Me(Us), Me(We)In Him! One Voice! Seeing as He sees from Eternal point of view. LIVE THERE! His Wisdom from Above! No soulish interpretation, analysis, synthesis, hypotheses, BUT, Pure w/o contamination and human error! Thank You, Father God !


Your son Nick 4 years ago

This is great Papa Lee. Love it and I am greatly built and encouraged.

Also very encouraged the way you tackled Mike's protest. Truly, a father's heart-firm and yet loving.Accurate knowledge of the word, minus apologetics!


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Leon Elijah 4 years ago from The Household of Sam Soleyn - Durban - South Africa Author

Nick, Sylvia & Mike. I never attempt to be harsh, but the ego of the soul of most believers block out the Spirit of Truth and sometimes it is needed. No discipline is enjoyable at the moment, but if endured, it yields the peaceable fruit of righteous. I know that all who read my hubs are searching for truth and hears the Holy Spirit, through all of that "bold talk", they heard the still small voice of the Father. Whether they will ever come back and acknowledge it, is between them and their Father.

Having said that, this medium is a written, documentated medium, so when you engage to comment on somebodies hub you go on record for your comments, and that must be addressed. A wise man hold his tongue, but and even wiser man will hold his tongue and his fingers from typing, Lol.

Love you.

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