The Grave Error of Christianity: the Trinity Doctrine Part 2

"Imputed," or cloaking device for sin
"Imputed," or cloaking device for sin

Please read Part 1 first as Part 2 is a continuation of this theme.

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Part 2

The purpose of this article will continue off of Part 1 of this series that explores the deception of believing in the Trinity doctrine and the consequences of adhering to it. When the Trinity is added to the Gospel, the ultimate conclusion is to believe that it is impossible to be without sin in this lifetime; ONLY Christ could have achieved this because he is “God the Son,” meaning he is God. This means that pressing on towards perfection and being an overcomer by following Christ’s walk in righteousness by faith is not possible. Rather, the righteousness of Christ is “imputed,” and his “blood” is a cloak for sin; therefore, the Father no longer sees them. The “Christian” is deemed “perfect,” or in other words “without sin” because their one time confession of sin at an altar call within a denominational “church” means that "it is finished," including all of their future sins. All they have to do now is simply “believe” by simply calling their “Jesus” Lord!

Sin Not

John wrote to the ekklesia so that they would “sin not.”

Why would he state it if it were impossible “to walk as Christ walked?”

You cannot have it both ways. You either believe in the Trinity “Gospel,” or the Gospel of Yahshua (Jesus Christ) that brings VICTORY. The Trinity nullifies the Gospel of Yahshua and the ministry of the apostles who were sent by the power of the Holy Spirit to lead us into “perfection.”

And He gave some indeed to be apostles, and some prophets, and some evangelists, and some shepherds and teachers, TOWARD THE PERFECTING OF THE SAINTS for the work of ministry, for the building up of the body of Christ, until WE ALL MAY ATTAIN TO THE UNITY OF THE FAITH and of the knowledge of the Son of God, UNTO A COMPLETE MAN, to the measure of the stature of the FULLNESS OF CHRIST,

so that no longer we might be infants, being tossed by waves and BEING CARRIED ABOUT by every wind of teaching in the cunning, in the craftiness of men with a view to the scheming of deceit. But speaking the truth in love, we should grow up in all things into Him who is the head, Christ – Ephesians 4:11-15

If “imputed" righteousness were true, then Christ’s rebuke of the Scribes and Pharisees would be completely unfair, unreasonable, unrealistic and unattainable.

If I had not come and spoken to them, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE HAD SIN; but now they have NO EXCUSE for their sin. – John 15:22

If I had not done among them the works that no other has done, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE HAD SIN; but now they have both seen and hated both Me and My Father. – John 15:24

Popular denominational Trinitarian cloaks for sin. Contact your nearest "church" to purchase.
Popular denominational Trinitarian cloaks for sin. Contact your nearest "church" to purchase.

The Cloak

Yahshua’s works of righteousness took the Pharisee's “cloak” for sin away leaving them without an excuse because his works put theirs to shame demonstrating that a MAN could be truly righteous.

If the works of Yahshua were done because he was the second person of the Trinity, then his works would not reflect badly on the Scribes and Pharisees.

Why?

They could never live up to his example of righteousness if he was God.

Trinity doctrine must present that ONLY God as "God the Son" can live without sin in the flesh.

If that is the case, then “Jesus” cannot take away Pharisee's “cloak,” which proves that they cannot have control over their flesh confirming their "cloak." Their "cloak" would not take away their excuse, but rather would be a built in excuse for it.

Do you see the irony here?

The righteousness of Yahshua takes away the cloak for sin, yet “Christian” Trinity doctrine teaches that it provides a "cloak" (covering) for sin.

Here we have a clear distinction between the Trinity “Gospel” and the Gospel of Yahshua (Jesus Christ).

One provides a “cloak” for sin taking away the consequences, even when still in sin. The other takes away sins by having victory over them by destroying the works of the devil.

Which one do you believe in?

Works of Righteousness by Faith, or Self-Righteousness?

If Yahsuah (Jesus) was doing works of righteousness by his OWN power, then his words to the Pharisees were self-righteous. This would make Christ was hypocrite like them, especially if he is comparing his OWN self-righteousness with theirs with the advantage of having “Godly powers” that kept him from sinning.

The Trinity doctrine misses the entire message of the true Gospel. Christ said that if he testified of himself, then his testimony was false. Yahshua said that his Father testified on his behalf through the works that he did. He also said to his followers that they too would “testify” of the same works once they received the power of the Holy Spirit.

If I bear witness concerning Myself, MY TESTIMONY IS NOT TRUE. – John 5:31

But I have testimony greater than that of John. For the works that the Father has given Me that I should complete them, the same works which I do, BEAR WITNESS CONCERNING ME THAT THE FATHER HAS SENT ME. – John 5:36

Yahshua (Jesus) could do no miracles, or works of righteousness unless it was Father working through him. That is why he testified of his faith in his Father, and the works he did were the Father’s testimony on his behalf.

When the HELPER comes, whom I will send to you FROM THE FATHER, the SPIRIT OF TRUTH who goes forth FROM THE FATHER, He will bear witness concerning Me. And you also bear witness, because you are with Me from the beginning. – John 15:26-27

The Purpose of the Cross

The apostles spoke that all the work that they did was through the Holy Spirit to bring maturity into the body of Yahshua (Jesus Christ) moving towards perfection of being in the fullness of him.

Why would they say this if it was impossible in this lifetime?

The GOOD NEWS is that it IS attainable!

This IS the purpose of the cross.

To believe in Trinitarian doctrine means to turn away from truth and believe in a lie. It is to believe that you are already “perfect” and you do not have to attain, or have nothing to attain to because you already have “imputed" righteousness.

To whom God has willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory, whom we preach, admonishing every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, SO THAT WE MAY PRESENT EVERY MAN PERFECT IN CHRIST. – Colossians 1:27-28

My children, of whom I travail again until that CHRIST SHALL HAVE BEEN FORMED IN YOU – Galatians 4:19

The "Unattainable"

Peter called those who say that they cannot stop sinning “cursed children.”

Then the Lord knows to deliver the devout out of temptation and to keep the unrighteous being punished unto the day of judgment, and especially those WALKING AFTER THE FLESH in the passion of defilement and despising authority. Bold, self-willed, they do not tremble blaspheming glorious ones, whereas angels, being greater in strength and power, do not bring against them a reviling judgment before the Lord. But these, like irrational animals,

having been born as creatures of instinct for capture and destruction, BLASPHEMING IN WHAT THEY ARE IGNORANT OF, in their destruction also will be destroyed, suffering wrong as the wage of unrighteousness; esteeming carousal in daytime as pleasure; blots and blemishes, reveling in their deceptions, feasting with you; having eyes full of adultery, and UNCEASING FROM SIN; enticing unestablished souls; having a heart having been exercised in craving—CHILDREN OF A CURSE! – 2 Peter 9-14

Paul never stated that he was already saved, nor being perfect, but followed after it by seeking to attain it in his lifetime. He ran the race to win and seek the prize that was within his reach.

If it were unattainable, not being able to be won in his lifetime, then why would he even try running the race?

And be found in Him, not having my own righteousness which is of the Law, but that which is THROUGH FAITH from Christ, the righteousness of God on the basis of faith, to know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, if, by any means, I may attain to the resurrection from out of dead. NOT THAT ALREADY I HAVE OBTAINED IT OR ALREADY HAVE BEEN PERFECTED, but I AM PURSUING,

if also I may lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus. Brothers, I do not consider myself to have taken hold of it. But one thing indeed: Forgetting the things behind and REACHING FORWARD to the things ahead, I PRESS ON TOWARD THE GOAL for the prize of the upward calling of God in Christ Jesus. – Philippians 3:9-14

The Trinitarian cannot speak of the righteousness that comes by faith, nor actually do it either because they believe that they are “righteous” by proxy (imputed).

When we read the words of Paul, he sated that he had not attained it yet, but was pressing on in the faith of Yahshua (Jesus Christ).

The Trinitarian will say we cannot have our own righteousness.

Paul had something different to say by saying that his own righteousness did not come by the Law, but righteousness that came by faith. He didn’t say we can’t have our own righteousness, but said it came by faith, rather than by the Law. Paul never said he was saved, nor did he say he attained the resurrection, but SOUGHT after righteousness by FAITH to ATTAIN to a resurrection.

Can you make the distinctions between the true and false doctrine?

Lip Service and Deceptive "Reasoning"

The Trinitarian loves the lip service game by saying that they believe in pressing on through faith and seek to be like Jesus and live without sin. Yet, by their doctrine they MUST believe that ONLY Christ could attain this in the flesh because he is “God the Son.” The are deceivers as they say that are “reaching forward” and “pressing on,” yet openly say they cannot reach the finish line in this lifetime because it is ONLY something Christ could do because he is God.

Trinitarians rob themselves of true victory because they believe they will continue in sin and consider themselves nothing but sinners. They say, “Don’t we all sin?” They do not have faith, but speak of antichrist “faith.” They will say, “If it were possible, then there would be no need for grace.”

Those who preach contrary to their delusions are called “heretics” and “liars.”

The Trinitarian loves to point the finger at the opposer and says, “Are you not sinless?”

They do not comprehend the words of Paul who said that he had not yet “already attained.”

They will the retort,

“Do you know anyone who attained sinless perfection in their lifetime?”

I say, "Yes, I do!!!"

It is Yahshua Messiah, he was a man in the flesh who overcame sin and lived perfect. To truly follow him in VICTORY means one MUST abandon the deceptive teachings of the Trinity doctrine and believe that we too CAN live righteous by FAITH as he DID.

This is the crux of the faulty deceptive Trinity doctrine because their "Christ" does not count because he is God. Their “Jesus,” “God the Son” the "God/man" cannot be their example to follow because his “righteousness” was self-righteousness and cannot be deemed as a “demonstration of faith.”

The sorry fact is that they have no one to follow because their “Jesus” being God is unfollowable.

Here is the deception in a nutshell,

When the Trinitarian says that they are a “follower” of Christ, it does not mean that they really follow him; it means that they just “believe” in what Christ did for them. They don’t believe that they have to truly follow because they are already deemed as “followers" of Christ by “imputation.”

A true believer in Yahshua (Jesus Christ) knows that they are being MADE righteous by the power of the Holy Spirit into a perfect people who are pleasing to their Father.

The Trinitarian believes that they will not be made literally righteous until Yahshua (Jesus) returns and they are resurrected in their new bodies. They miss that Paul said that we shall not all sleep, but attain to a resurrection.

Behold, I tell to you a mystery: WE WILL NOT ALL SLEEP, BUT WE WILL ALL BE CHANGED – 1 Corinthians 15:51

Content to Sit and Wait

Most within the “church” system believe that they cannot attain perfection in their lifetime until Christ returns “giving” it to them. They are content to sit in their pews without pressing forward wallowing in their sinful man-driven religious existence believing that they have “imputed” righteousness in their religious anti-faith antichrist "church" system. Putting on incorruption is not a daily walk of faith, but a day they wait for in the future.

They ignore the words of Paul who said that putting off of corruption is something we must do on a daily basis.

Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, KNOWING THAT YOUR TOIL IN THE LORD IS NOT IN VAIN. – 1 Corinthians 15:58

Trinitarian doctrine must nullify the work of faith, which in turn nullifies the result of Yahshua’s death and resurrection, which in turn denies the power of the cross that was meant to bring the Holy Spirit. Their labour is in vain, and their “Jesus” died in vain because their version of a walk of “faith” is “imputed” being already “counted” as “righteous.” You don’t have to DO righteousness; you JUST have to “believe.”

The Cherry Picking & Twisting of Romans 4

Of course, as professional cherry pickers of Scripture verses, the Trinitarian will reference Romans 4 and butcher it to match their delusional presuppositions.

What then shall we say Abraham our father discovered according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has ground of boasting, but not toward God. For what does the Scripture say? “And ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS.” – Romans 4:1-3

Could it be that simple; we just "believe" and it is counted to us as righteousness without DOING righteousness?

NOW TO THE ONE WORKING, the reward is not reckoned according to grace, but according to debt. – Romans 4:4

Here the Trinitarian justifies that to DO any works of righteousness would cancel out grace. The only logical conclusion in their ideology is that they must deem themselves as sinners so that grace will abound.

What the passage really means is that if we are rewarded for our works, then it is earned, not a gift. Paul is not saying to abstain from works of righteousness so we can receive “grace.”

However, TO THE ONE NOT WORKING, BUT BELIEVING on the One justifying the ungodly, his faith is reckoned for righteousness – Romans 4:5

This verse is twisted to mean that we don’t have to do works of righteousness, but can simply “believe.”

Anyone who says otherwise who DOES works of righteousness are deemed as “not having faith" being under the Law.

We can see the inversion of the Gospel taking place by Trinitarian eisegesis of Scripture to promote an antichrist doctrine. True faith is equated as being “ungodly,” and being ungodly is deemed as having “faith" by "imputation."

Can you see why Martin Luther said, “Sin boldly?"

What we have today within modern “Christianity” is a focus away from Yahshua (Jesus Christ), his Kingdom and the fruit of righteousness to the promotion and marketing of man-made doctrines. The Way has been turned into “Doctrianity” where celebrity “theologians” have usurped the teachings of Yahshua and the apostles for ones of their own making.

The inverted “gospel” of “church” today promotes sin and ungodliness as “faith.”

Those who DO walk and believe that they CAN attain righteousness and sinlessness are the ones who are deemed not having faith. The Gospel is turned upside down and backwards and it is called “following" Jesus.

Just as David also declares the blessedness of the man to whom God CREDITS RIGHTEOUSNESS APART FROM WORKS: - Romans 4:6

Here Paul comments on how God imputes righteousness outside of “works.” In the Trinitarian mind, they believe that this verse is saying that someone who does NO works is “blessed.”

Do you see how ludicrous the notion is to believe that you can receive God’s blessings even though you do no works of righteousness?

“BLESSED are those whose LAWLESS DEEDS ARE FORGIVEN, AND WHOSE SINS ARE COVERED – Romans 4:7

By the eisegesis of the Trinitarian, they believe that God will reward and bless them even though they have no works of righteousness.

BLESSED is the man against whom THE LORD WILL NOT COUNT HIS SIN.” – Romans 4:8

The delusion can go on and on believing that to simply “believe on him” is counted as righteousness.

Those who seek to DO the works of righteousness are “fallen” and not in the “faith.”

Reading the passages in Romans 4 with indoctrinated lenses negates the full counsel of Scripture, and ignores some important facts.

First, the result of Abraham’s faith was by works of righteousness.

Why?

When Abraham believed God and it was counted to him as righteousness, it was during the time before the Law was given.

Second, when Paul speaks of “works,” he was NOT talking about works of righteousness by faith, but works of the Law.

Within the “church” system there are really only two forms of “righteousness.” It either comes by works of the Law, or by “imputed" righteousness. They fail to understand that neither of these today come from the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

It is the true works of righteousness in love that comes by walking in faith by the Spirit.

Is this blessing then only for the CIRCUMCISED, or also for the UNCIRCUMCISED? For we say that faith was counted to Abraham as righteousness. – Romans 4:9

This passage states Abraham’s righteousness was “imputed” without the works of the Law (uncircumcised). This means that his "imputed" righteousness was given to him before the Law of circumcision was given.

How then was it counted to him? Was it before or after he had been circumcised? It was not after, but BEFORE he was circumcised. – Romans 4:10

Paul was not stating that Abraham had no works of righteousness; he was stating that he had "imputed" righteousness BEFORE he obeyed the Law of circumcision.

He received the sign of circumcision as a seal of the righteousness that he HAD BY FAITH WHILE HE WAS STILL UNCIRCUMCISED. The purpose was to make him the father of all who believe without being circumcised, so that righteousness would be COUNTED to them as well – Romans 4:11

Paul is speaking here that his righteousness is "imputed" by FAITH, rather than by works of the Law.

And to make him the father of the circumcised who are not merely circumcised but who also walk in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had BEFORE HE WAS CIRCUMCISED. For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world DID NOT COME THROUGH THE LAW BUT THROUGH THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF FAITH. – Romans 4:12-13

Are we to believe that Abraham had no righteousness, but was only “counted” as “righteous” because he "believed." The fact is that Abraham’s faith (belief) brought great works of righteousness, not works of keeping the Law.

For if it is the ADHERENTS OF THE LAW who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void. – Romans 4:14

This is the clincher for the Trinitarian “Christian” who twist the Scriptures to say that to DO works of righteousness means that you are cancelling “grace,” or the “promise” because the passage is NOT talking about true works of righteousness by faith through love, but the dead works of the Law.

Abraham’s great deeds of faith did not come by being obedient to the written Law, but were born as a result of his faith. The effort of the Trinitarian Scripture twister is exposed as being in vain because Abraham was someone who DID works of righteousness. To say he just “believed” and did no works is unfounded in the passage of Romans 4.

For the law brings wrath, but where there is no law there is no transgression. That is why it depends on FAITH, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his offspring—not only to the adherent of the law but also TO THE ONE WHO SHARES THE FAITH OF ABRAHAM, who is the father of us all, as it is written, “I have made you the father of many nations”....

...”—in the presence of the God in whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist. In hope he believed against hope, that he should become the father of many nations, as he had been told, “So shall your offspring be.” He did not weaken IN FAITH when he considered his own body, which was as good as dead (since he was about a hundred years old), or when he considered the barrenness of Sarah’s womb...

...No unbelief made him waver concerning the promise of God, but he GREW STRONG IN HIS FAITH as he gave glory to God, fully convinced that God was able to do what he had promised. – Romans 4:15-21

From reading through this lengthy passage, we find the end result of Abraham’s “faith.” It had nothing to do with obeying by the works of the Law, but obedience in his works of FAITH before God.

By FAITH Abraham OBEYED when he was called to go out to a place that he was to receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. By FAITH he went to live in the land of promise, as in a foreign land, living in tents with Isaac and Jacob, heirs with him of the same promise. For he was looking forward to the city that has foundations, whose designer and builder is God. – Hebrews 11:8-10

The Righteousness that comes by Faith

Righteousness that comes by faith comes from being obedient to God. When we repent and choose to follow Yahshua (Jesus Christ), his righteousness is “imputed" to us with the genuine intention to walk in obedience to his ways. Right here is where Trinitarian doctrine stops. In their lip service doctrine, they remain in “imputation” through the “blood,” but never press onwards and forwards into righteousness claiming victory that comes by walking in FAITH, just as Yahshua (Jesus) did.

The faith of Abraham was made perfect by works of obedience by FAITH. That is why it is stated in James that faith alone without works is dead.

So also FAITH BY ITSELF, IF IT DOES NOT HAVE WORKS, IS DEAD. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? Was not Abraham our father JUSTIFIED BY WORKS when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar?

You see that FAITH WAS ACTIVE ALONG WITH HIS WORKS, and FAITH WAS COMPLETED BY HIS WORKS; and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham BELIEVED God, and IT WAS COUNTED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS”—and he was called a friend of God. You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. – James 2:17-24

When somebody says that they cannot stop sinning, or do not have to stop sinning, they are saying that ONLY Christ could live sinless.

If that is the case, Yahshua is NOT Lord over their flesh.

The ekklesia of Christ have been bought with a price, and their flesh no longer belongs to them, but to the Lord. To believe that you are free to do whatever you want because of “imputed" righteousness means that your body does not belong to the Lord voiding any victory over sin.

The cross is not only about being offered “imputed” righteousness, but having the power to be free from sin. The true Gospel is about having the ability in this life to overcome sin. True faith brings true righteousness, not just “imputed" righteousness.

How many times have you heard from the pulpit that righteousness is not about the Law, or works, but by grace?

This is “Churchianity” 101, but something is missing in their false doctrine.

Can you guess what it is?

What they totally miss is that true grace comes through FAITH that BRINGS good WORKS of righteousness.

The ONLY “righteousness” they hold onto is “imputed.” It is meant to “atone” for their sins, but they fail to understand that this kind of righteousness was only available under the Law. They remain in their flesh void of victory over sin and at the same time giving lip service to Christ. They must resort to “righteousness” that comes “by the Law,” or by “imputation.”

The consequence of believing in the Trinity is a rejection of the true Gospel of Yahshua (Jesus Christ) who came to give us life by having faith in him. The result will bear the fruit of righteousness through obedience as we press onwards being perfected in him by the Spirit.

To believe in the Trinity doctrine is to believe in another "Jesus," and another "gospel."

You can believe that you CAN have VICTORY and DO works of righteousness, or you can believe that your "righteousness" and "victory" is "imputed" to you and "it is finished." All you have to do is be a good pew warmer and fill the offering basket and simply "believe" being "secure" in your "faith."

My hope is that you continue to investigate the Trinity doctrine for yourself because what is behind the curtain of this doctrine is deceptively sinister.

Do you believe the "gospel" of the Trinity doctrine is inversion of the true Gospel?

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Neil Braithwaite 7 months ago

Aaron - This helped me understand that salvation is more than just believing by faith, it is a combination of belief and works of faith. And that it is OK to stumble, but we must keep running!

12 So then, my beloved, just as you have always OBEYED, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR SALVATION with fear and trembling; 13 for it is YAHWEH WHO IS AT WORK IN YOU, BOTH TO WILL AND TO WORK for HIS good pleasure. 14 Do all things without grumbling or disputing; 15 so that you will PROVE YOURSELVES TO BE BLAMELESS AND INNOCENT, CHILDREN OF YAHWEH above reproach in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you appear as lights in the world, 16 holding fast the word of life, so that in the day of Messiah I will have reason to glory because I DID NOT RUN IN VAIN NOR TOIL IN VAIN. (Philippians 2)

Trinitarians don't like to talk about obedience, work or proving yourself or running or toiling - even though that is what Yahweh's WILL is for everyone who calls on the name of His son. They believe that those actions count for nothing and serve to nullify Yahweh's grace, and that "believing" in a God-man is the only thing that must be done to attain salvation. Nothing could be further from the truth!

Great post!

Blessings!


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PlanksandNails 7 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Neil,

You got it. You mention righteous works to a Trinitarian, they will say that you are "under the Law."

Once we have an understanding of "works," the Scriptures come alive, and are not dead because of twisted religious doctrine.

“‘I know your WORKS, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear with those who are evil, but have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not, and found them to be false. I know you are ENDURING patiently and bearing up for my name’s sake, and you have not grown weary. - Revelation 2:2-3

“‘I know your WORKS, your love and faith and service and patient ENDURANCE, and that your latter WORKS exceed the first. - Revelation 2:19


KingdomCome 7 months ago from those of the Ecclesia

PandN- I'm still studying based on part 1 of this article. Thanks for sharing this.

God bless.


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PlanksandNails 7 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

KingdomCome,

I'm glad your are weighing and testing all the information. I believe this theme is an important angle of exposing the Trinity doctrine for what it is.

There is a lot of information to absorb and to think about.

I don't expect to have many comments on this series, as it is a pretty weighty subject.


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celafoe 7 months ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

Aaron- you certainly have the anointing to address this issue. God bless--keep up the good works


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Rich kelley 7 months ago from The Ekklesia

Proverbs 28:13 He who conceals his sins does not prosper, but whoever confesses and renounces them finds mercy.

Planks

These teachings help turn what man wants to make complicated into simply read and do statements. The scripture is full of guidance when it is not distorted and implied to mean something else.


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celafoe 7 months ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

Aaron- as I re studied the subject yesterday I realized we addressed the subject quite differently but arrived at the same conclusion. One thing you mentioned that I had not used before makes it easier to help someone to see this truth and I will use it.

if Jesus was not a man but God then, then His "sacrifice" was not really a sacrifice because He could not fail. Therefore He could not have fulfilled scripture and brought the Kingdom and salvation to us.

Rom 5:15-16

For if by the one man's offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many. see all of Ro 5

The fact that He did bring lt as evidenced by the veil of the temple being split and earthquakes etc showed that He was in fact a man and did in fact fulfill scripture as further confirmed in Acts 2 on the day of pentecost. Jesus is surely the Son of God, a man .


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PlanksandNails 7 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Rich,

The heavy yoke of indoctrination points to a stage where "experts" tell you what to believe and how to "read" the words of Scripture. This is an epidemic where Trinitarians are just parroting what their celebrities have told them.

Paul states it well,

Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God. And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. - 1 Corinthians 2:12-14

This is how the indoctrinated pew warmer will interpret the above verses to mean,

Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but from our pastor who is God, that we might understand these things when we tithe. And pastor imparts this in words taught by wisdom from an esteemed seminary, interpreting truths to those who have become denominational church members. The sinful person does not accept the things that come from pastor anymore for they have deemed them as folly because they no longer attend church. They are not able to understand them because they are no longer under pastor's hedge of protection. Discernment requires someone who is salaried, certified and ordained - 1 Churchy Doctrine 2:12-14

You are right, "the scripture is full of guidance when it is not distorted and implied to mean something else."


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PlanksandNails 7 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Charlie,

Amen, he is surely the Son of God, a man.

If we can convey why it is important to believe that Jesus was a man, hopefully others will think critically about their Trinitarian indoctrination.

“To him that OVERCOMETH will I grant to sit with me in my throne, EVEN AS I ALSO OVERCAME, and am set down with my Father in His throne”– Revelation 3:21

If Yahshua (Jesus) overcame as a man, then we CAN also can overcome too by the Spirit; otherwise, his sacrifice would be meaningless.

The leader that the Father has placed over us is one of us. God gave him glory and honor because he humbled himself unto death, and then he was raised victoriously to sit at the right hand (authority) of God until the time the Father sends him to come again for his ekklesia to be raised from corruptible to incorruptible to rule and reign in the Kingdom of God.

Yahshua was the first man to be raised (first fruits) as a man and all those who believe in him will do the same.

For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ the FIRSTFRUITS, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. – 1 Corinthians 15:22-23


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Rich kelley 7 months ago from The Ekklesia

"If Yahshua (Jesus) overcame as a man, then we CAN also can overcome too by the Spirit; otherwise, his sacrifice would be meaningless."

If He can do it there is hope for us. All the scriptures that tell us to DO things should be looked at as possible because Christ did them first.

Christ was tempted just as we are:

Hebrews 4:15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.

God cannot be tempted.

James 1:13 Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone.


Neil Braithwaite 6 months ago

Aaron - Have you seen this website? There are two online books that are very interesting.

http://www.christiandiscipleschurch.org/content/04...

http://www.christiandiscipleschurch.org/content/on...


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Rich kelley 6 months ago from The Ekklesia

Neil

Have you read the two E-books yet? Let me know what you think.

richkelleysbg@gmail.com

Rich


Neil ithwaite 6 months ago

@Rich - The website allows you to read any chapters separately and has other posts that are very well written, researched and documented.

I've read quite a bit of both books and am reading this chapter now:

http://www.christiandiscipleschurch.org/content/ch...


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PlanksandNails 6 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Neil,

Thanks for posting the links. I just started reading "The Only Perfect Man" last night. The first chapter, "Yahweh: God’s personal name" drives home the importance of God's name and the ignorance of many concerning it. I plan on reading both books. I truly believe that the man-made Trinity doctrine for many will be one of the greatest obstacles to overcome when Yahweh calls them to come out of her (harlot church system).

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