Church Doctrine endorses the License to Sin

Many religious people believe that they have a licence to sin. They will say that the great thing about “Christianity” is that it is the only religion that accepts you for who you are, all you have to do is simply believe in God. People love this idea.

Unfortunately, this is the deception that is in the institutional church system that teaches Christ’s blood has covered all their sins from the past, present and the future.

You believe that God is one; you do well. EVEN THE DEMONS BELIEVE—and shudder! - James 2:19

Self Contradictory Doctrine

The corrupt church system is filled with people who are pastors, worship leaders, youth leaders and many others who are fornicators, wife abusers, drunkards, adulterers, etc… who believe in a self-contradictory doctrine. They hide under a glossy façade of religion that says that everything is okay because the blood of Christ has "covered" all of their sins.

Of course, when confronted with the situation of having to acknowledge their carnal behaviours, the automatic response is that the person’s heart was never right with God because a true believer would not do these things.

This may be true, but by saying this they have self-contradicted their own doctrine because what they preach is that the blood of Christ cleanses them of all sins past, present and future. In practice it is NOT about being clean where there is no lifestyle of sin. Living in a continual lifestyle of sin in the present and future is a belief that it is okay to still be wallowing in disobedience. It means that you believe you are “clean” of your sin while still living in a lifestyle of sin.

Lifestyle of Sin / License to Sin

Often, when a religious person is confronted about their sinful lifestyle, their automatic response is that you are being divisive, judgemental, self-righteous and harsh. This means that the confronter is not showing God’s “love” and “grace” towards them. They will say,

“Only God can know my heart.” “How can you conclude that I am living in a lifestyle of sin?“ "After all, everyone is human and makes mistakes.” “God knows this, and that is why He sent His Son who has already pre-paid and covered my sins.”

In other words, what this person is saying is that the "grace" of Christ covers their continual lifestyle of sin. The person believes that they have a special pre-paid plan, and now that they have been washed “clean,” God no longer sees their present and future sins. They are “clean” while remaining in their sin turning God’s grace into a licence-to-sin. Although they will deny it, they live it in practice.

How the religious deal with people committing fornication, abuse, adultery, drunkenness, etc... is saying that person was never a true believer, but the contradiction is that they also say that they cannot judge whether the person is a believer or not because we cannot know their heart. They will also spin it another way by saying the blood of Christ has covered their past, present and future sins.

On one hand they will claim that a person is in a lifestyle of sin, but on the other hand, they say they cannot know their heart and that their sins are covered. They will deny that their teaching enables a licence-to-sin, but in practice they are complete hypocrites using “grace” as a licence to willfully continue sinning and enabling others in it too. This is reason the counterfeit church system is filled with these kinds of people; they are slaves to sin.

The Sins of Past, Present and Future

The manifestation of the licence-to-sin doctrine are people within congregations including leaders who are living in outright sin, but by their teaching conveys that all must be "loved" and "accepted" for God no longer sees them as a drunkards, abusers, adulterers, fornicators, etc… because the Father now only sees Christ in them. They are allowed to continue in their lifestyle of sin because all has been “forgiven” in advance. Their spree of sin is allowed to continue because the “grace,” or cover that they believe in is a licence-to-sin.

But I say to you that everyone who is ANGRY with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever INSULTS his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever SAYS, ‘YOU FOOL!’ will be liable to the hell of fire. – Matthew 5:22

The religious will take this above verse and say that it only applies to non-believers. They create a double standard by saying the non-believer is in danger, but the believer is not because they can do anything they want; they have a “licence to sin,” their sins are “covered.”

Where in Scripture does it say that the blood covers sins from the past, present and future?

They will attempt to use this following Scripture in their defence,

GOD has ONLY made a  provision for the forgiveness of all sins, but He has not forgiven all sins.
GOD has ONLY made a provision for the forgiveness of all sins, but He has not forgiven all sins.

And by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL. And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But when Christ had offered FOR ALL TIME a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet. – Hebrews 10:10-13

This “sacred cow” verse is used to justify a “covering” for sins from the past, present and future, but in the proper context speaks of Jesus Christ sacrificing Himself for ALL of mankind, dying for ALL men, or the world.

He is the propitiation FOR our sins, and not for ours only but also FOR the sins of the whole world. – 1 John 2:2

In the Greek in the preceding verse, “for” (peri) means “because of,” ”the object of,” ”to the benefit of,” ”or behalf of.”

It should be common sense that Yahshua did not die for the “benefit of” our sins, but many read the above verse and believe that is what it means. That is why many religious people will say, “Jesus Christ died for my sins,” which deceptively means that they can keep on sinning because they have their licence-to-sin with no desire of giving up their carnal behaviours.

Hebrews 10:10 says that Yahshua Messiah died for “all OF US,” it was NOT for all of our present and future sins. The author of this Scripture is speaking about Yahshua literally removing our sin so that we may go and sin no more; therefore, a manifestation of true believer is the practice of NOT sinning by no longer being a slave to it.

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The sacrifice of Yahshua our Messiah literally takes your sins away, but if you remain in your lifestyle of sin, you do not have the Holy Spirit. Yahshua died for the sins of the world, but that does not mean the whole world’s sins are forever forgiven and everyone is saved. If that were the case, there would be no call to repentance and Yahweh would look at the world seeing no sinners. It is delusional to believe that all our present and future lifestyle sins are forgiven and already paid for. If you believe this then your religion is in vain.

The contradictory double standard hypocritical religion says that it is a grave sin not to receive Christ, but at the same time says that our habitual sins are already paid for ahead of time by through him because there are no sins that are not covered by the his sacrifice from the past, present and in the future.

When Hebrews 10:10-13 is used out of context, the false doctrine must conclude that the world’s future sins have been paid for by Christ, but if the doctrine were true, then there would be no judgement day.

God’s grace has come to the world, but He only gives it to the humble.

For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us TO RENOUNCE UNGODLINESS AND WORLDLY PASSIONS, AND TO LIVE SELF-CONTROLLED, UPRIGHT, AND GODLY LIVES in the present age – Titus 2:11-12

But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but GIVES GRACE TO THE HUMBLE.” – James 4:6

For if we GO ON SINNING DELIBERATELY after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins – Hebrews 10:26

Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has PROFANED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT by which he was sanctified, and HAS OUTRAGED THE SPIRIT OF GRACE? – Hebrews 10:28-29

It should be made clear that after a person has “received” the sacrifice and goes on sinning willfully, they are not born again. No amount of glossy religious ritual will change that.

I wouldn’t bet your future on the licence-to-sin doctrine.

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lifegate 2 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

Hi PandN,

". . . their automatic response is that you are being divisive, judgemental, self-righteous and harsh, which means that the confronter is not showing God’s “love” and “grace” towards them." If I heard it once I've heard it a thousand times. We are told to judge righteously. If the Bible says it - that's it! Thanks again for another hub!


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flpalermo 2 years ago

The sacrifice of Jesus Christ literary “Justifies” you from your Sins AFTER you repent, are baptized, and receive the Holy Spirit by the laying on of hands of a minister of God. You are justified from your PAST Sins, in order to become a new creation in obedience to Christ, for the Holy Spirit is given to them that OBEY Him.

Acts 5:32 “And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.”

Sin is the transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4) which defines the Love of God. “For this is the love of God, that we keep His Commandments… (1 John 5:3).

The wages of Sin is mortality, the opposite of immortality. Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life” (the opposite of mortal life) through Jesus Christ our Lord.

To brainwash yourself into believing that because Christ died for your Sins you are saved, is a grave error.

Hebrews 10:26 “…for if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins, (Jesus died once). Romans 6:10 “For in that He died, He died unto Sin ONCE…”).

Romans 3:25 “…whom God hath set forth (Jesus) to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, (not future) through the forbearance of God.”

2 Peter 1:9 But he that lacks these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins (not future Sins).

Every Sin not repented of is an “unpardonable” Sin. When Sin is repented of, it is pardonable, WHEN you repent of continuing in it! That’s why the Sin that so easily “besets” us is hard to let go, because we are compelled to continue in it.

Do not continue in Sin, “…for in that He died, He died unto Sin ONCE.”


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Lifegate,

Thanks for taking the time to read and comment. God Bless.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Flpalermo,

Thank-you for adding relevant Scripture verses. What is most unfortunate is that mainstream "Christianity" believes the the blood of Jesus blinds the Father from seeing their lifestyle of sin and "covers" them. They have no desire to repent and have no conviction.

Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false - 2 Thessalonians 2:11

2 Peter 2:9 - For whoever lacks these qualities is so nearsighted that he is blind, having forgotten that he was cleansed from his FORMER sins.

This verse pretty much nails it. Thank-you


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celafoe 2 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

Fpsalermo----- please give me scripture that a "minister" imparts the Holy Spirit.

ALL disciples are priests and ministers, there is NO clergy in the ecclasia.

That is a common false teaching among the false ministries in the "churches of men", it troubles me to see it mentioned here. The Holy Spirit is a gift from GOD, NOT from or thru a man. Yes man (any born again man , woman or child) may be involved teaching etc but no man is involved in the transaction,


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flpalermo 2 years ago

Celafoe:

How can you know for sure you have the Holy Spirit of God?

It is important to know how to receive the Holy Spirit of God because it gives a person power to understanding the deep things of God, and not be led by the traditions of men.

God does not give a Spirit of fear, but of power and of love and a sound mind ((2 Timothy 1:6-7).

The basic requirements are: Repent. Be baptized. Receive the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38).

Other scriptures show that the Spirit is usually given to a repentant believer after baptism when a minister of God lays his hands on the person, and asks God to give that person the Holy Spirit.

Paul wrote to Timothy: “stir up the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hands” and Acts 8:14 "When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that the people of Samaria had accepted God’s message, they sent Peter and John there. As soon as they arrived, they prayed for these new believers to receive the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit had not yet come upon any of them, for they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Then Peter and John laid their hands upon these believers, and they received the Holy Spirit. When Simon saw that the Spirit was given when the apostles laid their hands on people, he offered them money to buy this power. “Let me have this power, too,” he exclaimed, “so that when I lay my hands on people, they will receive the Holy Spirit!” Tyndale House Publishers: Holy Bible : New Living Translation. 2nd ed. Wheaton, Ill. : Tyndale House Publishers, 2004, S. Ac 8:14-19.

Repenting, believing, and baptism are the steps God requires before He gives His Holy Spirit by the laying on of hands.

If a person has not followed these steps, he or she does not have the Spirit in him or her yet.

But first, we must repent of what? Of our Sins. What is Sin? Sin is the transgression of the law (1 John 3:4). What is the penalty for our Sins? Eternal death (Romans 6:23). [not the first death- that is appointed for every man once to die, natural death].

The law which defines love, the Ten Commandments is God’s law. For this is the love of God – that we keep His commandments, and His commandments are not burdensome.

Second, we must forsake our old man, by the renewing of our minds to the obedience to God’s law of love.Hebrews 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and "the sin which doth so easily beset us", and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

Third, we acknowledge the death and burial of the old man, and resurrection of the new man in Christ, through water baptism.

We then receive the Holy Spirit of God by the laying on of hands of a minister of God, as he claims the promise of the Holy Spirit to be imparted unto you.

You then become a “begotten” son or daughter of God at that moment.

The Spirit of God will lead you unto all truth though prayer, bible study, meditation and fellowship with other begotten children of God in His Church.

Once you receive the Holy Spirit of God, the Bible warns: “Do not quench the Spirit” (1 Thessalonians 5:19). David prayed to God: “Do not cast me away from your presence and do not take your Holy Spirit from me” (Psalms 51:11).

David knew that he needed to keep on repenting and seeking God or was in danger of an unpardonable Sin, for God will not forgive us if we do not repent. (An unpardonable Sin is one you do not repent of).

The Holy Spirit enables us to do many things. Paul wrote that God’s Spirit opens up our Spiritual understanding of the things that are foolishness to those without spiritual discernment. He wrote:

"But it was to us that God revealed these things by his Spirit. For his Spirit searches out everything and shows us God’s deep secrets. No one can know a person’s thoughts except that person’s own spirit, and no one can know God’s thoughts except God’s own Spirit. And we have received God’s Spirit (not the world’s spirit), so we can know the wonderful things God has freely given us. When we tell you these things, we do not use words that come from human wisdom. Instead, we speak words given to us by the Spirit, using the Spirit’s words to explain spiritual truths.But people who aren’t spiritual can’t receive these truths from God’s Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them and they can’t understand it, for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means."

Tyndale House Publishers: Holy Bible : New Living Translation. 2nd ed. Wheaton, Ill. : Tyndale House Publishers, 2004, S. 1 Co 2:10-14

But as it is written, “Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searches all things, yea, the deep things of God. (1Corinthians 2:10-11).

Do you have the Holy Spirit of God?


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celafoe 2 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

Fp - Your answer is different than you 1st post. 1st you said (without qualification) that the Holy Spirit is received by the laying on of hands by a minister. What is you definition of a minister of God?

2nd you say "usually",

Which is it.

If it is your 1st then you are doing away with Act 2"4, 2:38, 4:31, 19:44-45, 11:15.

In fact even if it is usually, I don't see scriptural back up for more than sometimes?

Scriptual accuracy is important as there are lost and also new believers reading these hubs.


Liberty 2 years ago

"Many religious people believe that they have a licence to sin."

Really? I have never heard one professing believer say this.

"They hide under a glossy façade of religion that says that everything is okay because the blood of Jesus Christ has "covered" all of their sins."

John 5:24 says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that hears my word, and believes on Him who sent me, has everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life."

- P&N (Aaron), is there anything about the above which is not clear?

John 6:47 Jesus says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believes on me has everlasting life."

Pretty clear, no?

How long is everlasting?

Believing is not difficult and does not require lifelong validation from works.

The Scriptures are abundantly clear that our works do not save us.

Romans 4:5 says, "But to him that WORKS NOT, but BELIEVES on Him that justifies the ungodly, his FAITH is counted for righteousness.

Romans 6 is very clear that GRACE is no license to sin.

It is very possible for a born again child of God to sin, and to be disobedient. If it weren't possible, then 95% of the New Testament would not have needed to be written to encourage the children of God to pursue holiness and right living.

"Living in a continual lifestyle of sin in the present and future is a belief that it is okay to still be wallowing in disobedience, which means that you are “clean” of your sin while still living in a lifestyle of sin."

I sin every single day.

Do you?

Please can you explain a "lifestyle of sin".

Did King David live a "lifestyle of sin" when he committed adultery?

"It is delusional to believe that all our present and future lifestyle sins are forgiven and already paid for. If you believe this then your religion is in vain."

You're joking right?

Can you just explain to me how you:

1. Get saved?

2. Deal with future sins?

I'd appreciate you using to Scripture to justify your position because at the moment you're looking like a Works Salvationist.

FPPalermo: Repentance means a "Change of Mind". Your comments indicate that you have a common false view of Repentance.

Repentance does not mean to "turn from sin". Metanoia literally means CHANGE OF MIND.

You wrote: "How can you know for sure you have the Holy Spirit of God?"

How is it even relevant?

The Gospel of John is abundantly clear:

"But these are written, that you might BELIEVE that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that BELIEVING you might have LIFE thought his name. - John 20:31

Do not pervert the grace of God.

Go read Galatians.

Write it out even.

You guys come across like the biggest Judaizers in the world.

How on earth do you live like this?

Do you think you are without sin?


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Liberty,

Here is an article concerning grace that may give more clarity.

http://hub.me/a8ZqT


Liberty 2 years ago

Read the article but it still doesn't answer the questions I asked you.

Please tell me Aaron, what must I do to be saved.

Can I be saved and passed from death to life, or not?

Can I be certain and KNOW that I'm saved, like Scripture says?


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Liberty,

(("Can I be certain and KNOW that I'm saved, like Scripture says?"))

This is what Scripture says,

And he said to all, “If anyone would come after me, LET HIM DENY HIMSELF AND TAKE UP HIS CROSS DAILY AND FOLLOW ME. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. For what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses or forfeits himself? For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words, of him will the Son of Man be ashamed when he comes in his glory and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. – Luke 9:23-26

Denying ourselves requires that we wear a spiritual yoke.

TAKE MY YOKE UPON YOU, AND LEARN FROM ME, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” – Matthew 11:29-30

Jesus Christ taught that we must turn from sin having a change of mind on how we are conducting our lives.

No, I tell you; but UNLESS YOU REPENT, you will all likewise perish. – Luke 13:3

You cannot receive salvation unless we understand Christ’s conditions. If there is no desire to turn from sin and cleave to a lifestyle of sin, there will be no salvation. We must choose to obey the words of Jesus Christ.

CHOOSING RATHER TO BE MISTREATED WITH THE PEOPLE OF GOD than to enjoy the fleeting pleasures of sin. – Hebrews 11:25

All those who have repented by obeying the words of Jesus Christ and the Apostles have turned from their lifestyle of wicked behaviors.

And THOSE WHO BELONG TO CHRIST JESUS HAVE CRUCIFIED THE FLESH WITH ITS PASSIONS AND DESIRES. – Galatians 5:24

The power of God sets us free from the bondage of sin that bring about a new creation.

But now that YOU HAVE BEEN SET FREE FROM SIN and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. – Romans 6:22

Therefore, IF ANYONE IS IN CHRIST, HE IS A NEW CREATION. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. – 2 Corinthians 5:17

When we put our trust in faith in the teaching of Jesus Christ and the Apostles means that we believe in what they say.

Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” And they said, “BELIEVE IN THE LORD JESUS, AND YOU WILL BE SAVED – Acts 16:30

Many stop here and believe that following Jesus Christ requires no personal effort at all. They believe that by simply professing Jesus Christ equates to salvation.

And someone said to him, “Lord, will those who are saved be few?” And he said to them, “STRIVE TO ENTER THROUGH THE NARROW DOOR. For many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able. – Luke 13:23-24

Repentance is a change of mind that leads to trusting in Jesus Christ for salvation, but also requires a continual effort on our part to remain spiritually alive by not being led astray in sin. The Holy Spirit is our Helper to be an overcomer and endure to the end.

And you will be hated by all for my name’s sake. But THE ONE WHO ENDURES TO THE END WILL BE SAVED. – Matthew 10:22

We should not weary in doing good in sowing to please the Spirit of God, and that is why eternal life is hope.

Whoever loves his life loses it, and whoever hates his life in this world WILL KEEP IT FOR ETERNAL LIFE. – John 12:25

So that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to THE HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE. Titus 3:7

There is no such thing as security in sin. It is a false teaching within the Church system that everyone loves to hear. A true believer must endure to the end.

For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence FIRM TO THE END. – Hebrews 3:14

To THE ONE WHO CONQUERS I will grant to eat of the tree of life – Revelation 2:7

There is only one plan of salvation.

And by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—UNLESS YOU BELIEVED IN VAIN. – 1 Corinthians 15:2

FOR IF YOU LIVE ACCORDING TO THE FLESH YOU WILL DIE, but if by the spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. – Romans 8:13

I warn you, as I warned you before, that THOSE WHO DO SUCH THINGS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD. – Galatians 5:21

After this many of his disciples turned back and NO LONGER WALKED WITH HIM. – Galatians 6:66

We must not only be hearers of the word, but we must be doers also by remaining faithful by holding firmly till the end by putting it into practice.

But he answered them, “My mother and my brothers are THOSE WHO HEAR THE WORD OF GOD AND DO IT.” – Luke 8:21


Liberty 2 years ago

Luke 9:23-26 is talking about discipleship. You cannot use Luke 9 to insinuate that if we don't DO things that we won't qualify for eternal life.

John's Gospel is abundantly clear that salvation is through FAITH alone.

You are misusing the text for your own purpose.

You've quoted verses that used the word SAVED. Saved in the Scriptures is not always talking about eternal life and salvation from sin.

You wrote, "Many stop here and believe that following Jesus Christ requires no personal effort at all. They believe that by simply professing Jesus Christ equates to salvation."

Salvation does not come through DISCIPLESHIP. Discipleship is something which occurs AFTER one has come to faith in Christ.

Not all disciples are going to look the same. Some people grow in faith differently than others.

I imagine that you think yourself quite spiritual Aaron. Like you have one gospel for yourself and then one for everyone else, no?

You quote a lot of verses to fit in with your works salvation false gospel, but they are not in context.

I'll leave it there.

God's word is so clear. WORKS play no part in salvation.

We are justified by FAITH.

Nowhere in the Bible are Christians told to judge their brother's eternal destiny.

Not one verse.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Liberty you are self-refuting yourself.

("Salvation does not come through DISCIPLESHIP. Discipleship is something which occurs AFTER one has come to faith in Christ.")

If you say that discipleship occurs AFTER one has come to the faith, then you are making a judgement whether they are in the faith or not. Judas was a disciple, but he was not saved.

You say that I am judging a brother’s eternal salvation, but it is Scripture that tells us who is in the faith or not, and it becomes clear with the endless amount of verses that attest to those who will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

Basically what you believe is that it would be nice if we lived holy lives, but it’s no big deal if we don't because our salvation is assured by Christ and has nothing to do with how we live at all. We don't have to get hung up about any sins, in fact “I sin every single day,” meaning the sin you know you will commit going forward God has already "forgiven" and the Father doesn't even see them. Basically, there is no need to repent because it means a change of mind, but not turning from sin.

If you change your mind and know it is sin and continue in it, it is willful rebellion is it not?

You allude that Jesus’ warnings in the Gospels don’t apply, and now we live in “effortless success” and “unmerited favor.” We have nothing to do except believe in faith that we are saved by grace.

This means that Ephesians 2:8-9, "For it is by grace that you have been saved, through faith; and that not of yourself it is the gift of God" means that God requires nothing of us and no effort on our part is required from us to enter, or to remain in God's favor being ignorant of all the other verses to the contrary.

Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING – Philippians 2:12

Therefore, brothers, BE ALL THE MORE DILIGENT to confirm your calling and election, for if you PRACTICE THESE QUALITIES you will never fall. – 1 Peter 2:10

Without God working in us, we wouldn't be able to change and become like Christ and do the works God wants us to do.

The problem comes when the whole gospel message allows for certain rebellious sinners to willfully rebel professing God's full favor and acceptance just because they simply “believe” without any regard to what God says on the issue in Scripture.

But THE ONE WHO ENDURES TO THE END will be saved. – Matthew 24:13

A dead faith is one with no action and God does say that certain kinds of sinful lifestyle behaviors will keep a person out of the Kingdom of God.

OR DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT THE UNRIGHTEOUS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. – 1 Corinthians 6:9

But I say, WALK BY THE SPIRIT, AND YOU WILL NOT GRATIFY THE DESIRES OF THE FLESH. FOR THE DESIRES OF THE FLESH ARE AGAINST THE SPIRIT, AND THE DESIRES OF THE SPIRIT ARE AGAINST THE FLESH, FOR THESE ARE OPPOSED TO EACH OTHER, TO KEEP YOU FROM DOING THE THINGS YOU WANT TO DO. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. – Galatians 5:17-21

I gave her time to repent, but SHE REFUSES TO REPENT OF HER SEXUAL IMMORALITY. – Revelation 2:21

Sanctification is growing and maturing in what pleases and does not please God by conforming to His will by the work of the Holy Spirit. True faith and belief is seeking God out and learning His Word with a willingness to take certain actions of obedience. This is the faith and belief that we need to stick with. To reduce salvation to embracing that there is nothing more for us to do is redefine faith into something different than what the Bible says.

You have "hyper grace" ideas, but they are contradictory.

Jesus Christ opened a way for us to receive the gift of righteousness, but there is also a warning of the consequences of a deliberate lifestyle of sin.

LET US DRAW NEAR with a true heart in full assurance of faith, with our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. – Hebrews 10:22

To say that Jesus unconditionally covers all of our sins and our wrong doing once we simply “believe” is refuted in Revelation.

But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first. Remember therefore from where you have fallen; REPENT, AND DO THE WORKS YOU DID AT FIRST. – Revelation 2:4-5

How could Jesus Christ see that they had left their first love if he only sees them as “perfect” in Him?

The fact is, He doesn't because they are not in Him. Revelation 2 and 3 makes it clear that their sins are not blind to the Father, but a call to purity and turn back to Him.

There would be no point in calling them to repentance if their past, present and future sins are already “covered” by the blood of Christ.

True faith will lead us into obedience, not disobedience. It leads to victory over sin and demonic bondage. Jesus Christ has broken the power of sin at the cross, but being complacent believer by saying, “I sin every single day” is foolish.

They promise them freedom, but THEY THEMSELVES ARE SLAVES OF CORRUPTION. – 2 Peter 2:19

“Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and NOT DO WHAT I TELL YOU? - Luke 6:46

Jesus Christ will not save anyone in a way that contradicts His teaching.

In flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and ON THOSE WHO DO NOT OBEY THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS. – 2 Thessalonians 1:8

DO WE THEN OVERTHROW THE LAW BY THIS FAITH? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law. – Romans 3:31

The true Gospel is about the moral law of God written on our hearts living out the work of the Spirit within us. The Gospel destroys the work of Satan in practice, which is victory of having a new heart that desires to go after God pursuing holiness. It is important to remain in the faith and endure to the end.

If you say, “I sin every single day,” then repent with a desire to walk in obedience. It is true that we are justified by faith and no works are necessary to obtain it; otherwise, it would not be a gift.

Sanctification is being conformed to the image of Jesus Christ, but if you will look no different than the world, then He is not in you.

For it is God who is at work in you, BOTH TO WILL AND TO WORK FOR HIS GOOD PLEASURE. – Philippians 2:13

Sanctification is not instantaneous but comes with a desire to be actively involved in submitting to God's will, resisting sin and seeking holiness and to be more godly. Sanctification comes by having God within us by working in accordance with the applicable doctrines in Bible. Works do not obtain salvation, but the result of salvation is good works.

WHAT SHALL WE SAY THEN? ARE WE TO CONTINUE IN SIN THAT GRACE MAY ABOUND? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? - Romans 6:1-2

For God has not called us for the purpose of impurity, BUT IN SANCTIFICATION. – 1 Thessalonians 4:7


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flpalermo 2 years ago

Liberty:

Salvation through Faith alone - then what is the purpose of repentance?

Many feel that to repent just means to “feel” sorry for being a sinner.

Others feel that it’s just a matter of the heart. They believe that just “giving their heart to the Lord” is all that is necessary to obtain salvation.

True repentance is more than an emotional feeling of sorrow, just saying a few words and participating in an alter call or a baptismal ritual.

A person should regret violating God’s Law and ways of life. To truly repent a person will not only regret having sinned, but also will no longer make a PRACTICE of sinning.

True repentance requires a change of heart, mind, attitude, priorities, and “physical actions.”

Repentance is a change in one’s WAY of life, from that which is evil to that which is of God with an unconditional surrender to the rule and authority of God in your life.

The Apostle Paul gave us a perfect example of what is repentance:

Acts 26:19 “Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision: Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.”

Faith alone will not cut it. The demons believe “only.” Traditional Christianity believes “only.” God requires “works meet for repentance.” Not for Salvation – Repentance.


Liberty 2 years ago

Aaron, you wrote "If you say that discipleship occurs AFTER one has come to the faith, then you are making a judgement whether they are in the faith or not. Judas was a disciple, but he was not saved."

- Discipleship simply means following. A disciple is not necessarily a true believer. Matthew 7 has 'disciples' who called Jesus "Lord Lord" yet they did not make the final cut. WHY?

Because they were trusting in their WONDERFUL WORKS. They were not trusting Christ as their Saviour.

I have not contradicted myself one bit.

You wrote, "but it is Scripture that tells us who is in the faith or not, "

YES, those who BELIEVE NOT will be condemned.

Unsaved people can do good works. Those works get them NOWHERE.

You wrote, "Basically what you believe is that it would be nice if we lived holy lives, but it’s no big deal if we don't because our salvation is assured by Christ and has nothing to do with how we live at all. We don't have to get hung up about any sins, in fact “I sin every single day,” meaning the sin you know you will commit going forward God has already "forgiven" and the Father doesn't even see them. Basically, there is no need to repent because it means a change of mind, but not turning from sin."

The truth is Aaron, no matter how hard we STRIVE we will still sin.

In your mind no doubt you live a wonderful life of many works, but I struggle with ANXIETY, JUDGMENTAL THOUGHTS, NOT SUBMITTING, ANGER etc etc. I sin every.single.day.

Like the NT authors write, we ought to "add to our faith xyz".

This happens daily. We don't become perfect in this life.

Your comment assumes that I have a licentious attitude. I do not. Romans 6 is clear that we ought not use the GRACE of God as a reason or justification to continue living sinful lives.

Why do you think Paul wrote that???

Because there would be people who would say, "OH so I can live however I please if my salvation is free!"

Paul says, "Don't be like that".

I have NEVER met a licentious believer.

I have met plenty like me who believe salvation is a FREE GIFT (Eph 2:5-8) and who try to be obedient to the Lord, yet we still sin daily.

You have a habit of pulling bible verses from their contexts Aaron. You should never use verses to suit your purpose but to convey the original point. Naughty.

Flpalermo: You do not believe the Bible.

Repentance is a CHANGE of MIND and what the change of mind is about depends entirely upon the context.

Repentance is NOT sorrow for sin, it is not "turning from sins".

Repentance is simply a CHANGE OF MIND. Get that clear in your mind.

Repentance is NOT a change in one's life in the bible.

The word repent means CHANGE of MIND. It has absolutely nothing to do with changing anything else except your MIND.

Acts 26:20 in the KJV:

"But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance."

they should CHANGE their MIND and TURN TO GO and DO WORKS meet for that CHANGE of MIND.

Repent means CHANGE of MIND.

Do not change the meaning of the word to suit your heretical view of the Gospel.

FAITH ALONE is how a man is saved.

James 2 has nothing to do with justification for eternal life. The whole context of the book of James is practical Christianity. The verses in James 2 are talking about not having a DEAD (useless) Faith. It is not suggesting that the faith is non-existent.

If you're suggesting James 2 is about eternal life then are you saying that if Demons did good works they would be saved???

The point about the demons is simply pointing out that they believe yet do not do good works. James is saying, "SO you believe, GOOD... so do demons. Put your faith to WORK".

He's not suggesting that the Christians (whom James is writing to) are not truly saved.

God does not REQUIRE works meet for repentance for salvation.

He DESIRES it. We should do good works.

We fail miserably a lot of the time..

Answer me this:

How many good works must I do for assurance of Salvation?

and this:

Have you turned from all your sins?

If so, you better hope you don't sin anymore... because under your dirty shameless gospel you are probably not really saved then.


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flpalermo 2 years ago

Liberty:

Let me quote your favorite verse: Acts 26:20 in the KJV:

"But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance."

Perhaps you didn’t notice “AND TURN TO GOD.”

Repent means TURN TO GOD and DO good works that will proof your repentance, NOT YOUR SALVATION – your repentance!

I know that you are living comfortable in Sin, and you have chosen NOT to turn to God (repent).

Sin is the transgression of the Law of God which defines what the love of God is (1 John 3:4) “for this is the Love of God – that we KEEP His Commandments…” ( 1 John 5:3).

You say that repentance is NOT turning from breaking God’s Law, which define what love is.

You say that repentance is NOT a change in one’s life.

You say that God does NOT require works meet for repentance.

If you are happy with that mentality, you might as well bear with it, because the demons do also.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Liberty,

((""You have a habit of pulling bible verses from their contexts Aaron. You should never use verses to suit your purpose but to convey the original point. Naughty."))

The purpose of this article was to convey the license to sin doctrine, which equates to a lifestyle of sin. The verses I used are relevant to this theme and in the commentary.

I stand by the verses I quoted, and I disagree with your doctrine. Those who live in a lifestyle of sin have no victory and a dead faith. Repentance for you is a mere a definition with no action. Instead of being a slave to your sins ask God to deliver you of them and give you victory!

Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God. You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also FAITH APART FROM WORKS IS DEAD. - James 2:20-24

You have been deceived . The problem is you don't understand the difference between "works of the law" and "works of faith." Paul mostly addresses "deeds of the law" or attempting to obey the law by fleshly observance, and James speaks of works BY THE SPIRIT as a result of faith.

The fact you don't understand this distinction is the ROOT of your deception and delusion. You accuse me of preaching "self righteousness" when I am preaching that which can ONLY come by faith in Jesus Christ, namely, works of righteousness by FAITH , which comes by the HOLY SPIRIT.

You fail to accept that he who has FAITH also has works of righteousness for if not, your faith is NOT REAL. You seem to SAY this at one point but then completely contradict yourself the next.

You say that you MUST have repentance in order to have true faith but you don't understand that repentance means TURNING YOUR BACK ON YOUR SIN and having NO INTENTION of repeating that sin!

Your preaching says you have every INTENTION of repeating your sin, but that you are saved anyway!

You are confused and LOST.

When he returns he will reward you ACCORDING TO YOUR WORKS!

You have been warned.


Liberty 2 years ago

The fact that you think I am LOST (your emphasis) shows me you have no idea of the Gospel.

I am trusting in Christ as my Saviour. He is THE Lord. Any good works I do is a result of His working in me.

I sin daily. I hate my sin but the flesh and spirit war with each other.

I won't be visiting this site again.


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PlanksandNails 21 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Liberty,

At the end of this article I asked the question,

Do you believe that God's grace covers a self-professing Christian who lives habitually in a lifestyle of sin?

The answer of Yes or No will determine what Gospel you believe in.


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PlanksandNails 11 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Liberty,

John the Baptist did not go around saying, "Change your mind the Kingdom is at hand."

Repent and stop sinning!

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