The Two Greatest Objections to Christianity Refuted

Fellow hubber Allen Vaega has published a hub called "The Two Greatest Objections to Christianity Answered" which I found interesting, even if I disagree with his concepts and opinions.

As a Christian apologist, I decided to answer his main points concerning those supposed two greatest objections.

As I write, I see that the hub has been unpublished, but I hope it will return to the hub, however the assumptions he made can still be examined, and thankfully I had saved a copy before I started writing this hub.

I am not attacking his hub, indeed I suggest that you take a read, if it becomes available, and decide for yourself whether he has made his position sufficiently to shape your future thinking.

In my opinion all presentation of the Gospel is welcomed, even when it's objective is to sway believers from their faith and turn their beliefs towards alien religions from Christianity.

I have found that any believer who has encountered the Holy Spirit; at work in their lives and the lives of others, are secure in their faith....whereas those who have been inducted into false or errant doctrines, will waiver like the double minded man at the first challenge to what they have been taught.

My objective in all my writing is to assist people to discover either true faith and trust in God through Christ, or persuade them that they are living a lie, and choosing to continue to do so.

Living in the whole light, of the truth of Christ, is a wonderful gift to receive, but living in the deception Satan inveigles folk to believe is a horrific destination to choose.

Objection one...

"The first greatest objection to Christianity isJesus’ claim to be the sole access to God stated in John 14:6.

When Jesus said he is the way the truth and the life, he was actually expressing a metaphysical truth.

He was not talking from his human point of view as the Son of Man, but from his Spiritual one as the Son of God. "

Allen states that when Christ made one of the most categoric statements of His identity, a statement that challenges every living soul to decide whether Christ was THE Son of God, a liar or a madman, he was only speaking a metaphysical truth!

He was (supposedly) speaking subjectively, not objectively, and we should therefore treat this as a statement which may or may not hold relevance for our eternal destiny..... rather than one which has extreme and serious consequence if we ignore what is spoken.

Wherever I look I always find that I am answering the same old questions, raised by the same old adversary, I wrote a complete hub about 'The Satan Whisperers' and thought that was it, but no, everywhere you look one finds people, well meaning people, mouthing Satans deception and lies, from a sincere heart.

Sincerely deceived.

The preposition that Christ was speaking 'metaphysically' creates a large hole in Gods existence, for it presents an argument that tells us that God and Christ in the deliverance of their instructions to humanity, were inept in their expression, and incapable of delivering a clear message which could be understood by any human who had access to a dictionary, and an honest sincere heart.

Two thousand years after being spoken, we suddenly find out that rather than being literal, Christ was speaking metaphorically, and that casts severe doubts about every other section of scripture we possess.

Can we rely upon;

John 3:16-21

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."

Now billions of people have found comfort and indeed, Christ from these verses, and for most believers they are the first verse they can remember, but maybe in the light of the bibles infallibility, we need to reconsider, after all, if the bible is not literal in it's message, then in reality anything goes and all roads are equal.

How categoric are those verses?

Does telling the world that Christ was only speaking metaphysically when He stated that He was the ONLY way, and believing it, classify as being saved under verse sixteen, or lost under verse nineteen.?

Our fellow hubber tells me that all roads lead to heaven and eternity with God, if only we can live and live again and again until we reach 'perfection' and..... do what?

He maintains that reincarnation was held as truth in the early church, until churchianity realised that there was power and control and wealth in limiting life to one shot only. I will not disagree that Churchianity did indeed see a golden goose in keeping folk ignorant of the power of the gospel....

But scripture states;

Hebrews 6: 4-6

It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit,who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

....and also....

Hebrews 9:27-28

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Which rather speaks against the notion of reincarnation.

A further claim is that Jesus was a Nazarene, indeed the head of the Nazarenes, and that this is why the Sadducee's sent Him to His crucifixion, but the bible clearly states that the crucifixion was demanded due to Christ declaring that He was God, not some 'Advanced Master', or leader of a sect.

Mark 14: 61- 64

Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?

And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses?

Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death.

No, the Sadducee's demanded the death of Christ because He declared He was God, not for being the leader of any sect.

" It is a spiritual error to believe that only one man is the Son of God and uniquely created..."

Or so says Allen...

Let's have alook at John 3:16 again...

" For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

ONLY begotten Son...

Seems fairly concise to me, leaves very little room for misunderstanding, however New Age belief needs to tell us we are ALL gods, or can become gods.

It's just Satan whispering again...


The second objection

The second most challenging objection to Christianity is whether the God of love taught by Jesus in the New Testament and the God of the Old Testament who ordered the deaths of millions of people (men, women, and children) are one and the same.  

The answer is simple.... YES

I see no conflict with this fact, because the old covenant and the new covenant are different chapters in our worlds history.

In the old covenant God is showing the world that He can control the world by force if needed, though He desires to have humanity control themselves by following and obeying His guidelines.

In many ways the old covenant was rigged against it's adherents. 

They demanded a king, rather than governance by Gods anointed prophets and holy men, and got King Saul.... they were given simple commandments to observe....and decided to extend the scope of those commandments from ten simple requirements into over 600 rules of law, further amplified to 455 books of commands which tried to shoehorn folk into a holy existence, yet only proved that it was impossible for humanity to please God with works based religion.

God did indeed bring about the elimination of many rebellious peoples in His old covenant, but if you take time to study the circumstances, He demonstrated extreme tolerance and patience before commanding their extermination.

God is and was always a loving God, one who tried desperately to bring people out of the evil darkness that controlled them, into His blessings, but eventually, when all attempts to salvage (or secure their salvation) had failed, He removed them from His 'body' like modern surgeons try to exorcise cancer from our sinful bodies.

One either eliminates the cancer, or the whole body dies.

When all else had failed, when mankind was hopelessly lost in their man made laws and traditions, when there was no hope that their own endeavors would possibly save them, and the only option was death and seperation eternally from God for most of humanity....

God stepped in, and sent His son to bring us a new covenant, one which highlighted that by Gods grace alone, we could find eternal security.

Humanity killed Him, or thought they had.

Satan rejoiced when humanity crucified Christ, for he mistakenly thought that from there on in he was able to treat humanity with contempt, deceive them further, and destroy their eternal souls.

Then Christ rose again, sinless in death and victorious in His resurrection.

So Satan resumed his plans to deceive and mislead those who sought self enhancement over service to God, and set about trying to hijack the new covenant redemption that Christ alone offers.

From that time onward, humanity has been pressing forward into Gods Kingdom, and Satan has been undermining mankind by introducing blind alleys and false trails in his attempt to waylay those he can persuade to follow his rebellious nature.

We are entering a crossroads of belief at this time, a point where those alive will in all probability witness the closing days of this earths history, and live to either rise up with Christ or sink to the depths with Satan and his minions.

That's why I answered this mans hub, for it is dangerous for those who waiver, those who doubt, those who have listend to Satans whispers and question their beliefs.

In the end result, nothing I can do will determine your eternal future, your choice is guaranteed to you by your loving God, whether you want it or not.

Choose wisely, it's your one shot at eternity.

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dfager 6 years ago from Federal Way, Washington

That's the best argument against reincarnation that I've heard. If you believe in reincarnation you cannot believe in Christ. His death on the cross, His blood spilt, cleanses all who believe He is the Savior of this world. Therefore, there is no need for reincarnation because those in Christ are perfected in believing in Christ's death on the cross. If this perfection is not good enough, then I would think that people would prefer something else, to be god themselves. I know from experience of one lifetime that even if I had a million lifetimes, I would never make a good enough god. Therefore, I'll stick with Jesus!


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Ken R. Abell 6 years ago from ON THE ROAD

Good work here. Thanks for a cohesive presentation. Blessings.


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RevLady 6 years ago from Lantana, Florida

An excellent rebuttal. Thank you for your defense of the (true) Faith.

Forever His,


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Dave Mathews 6 years ago from NORTH YORK,ONTARIO,CANADA

Aguasilver my brother that was the best defense of Christianity I've read in a long long time. It is to bad that you could not address the world stage with this.Simply marvellous Hub my brother.

I am still left with one nagging question, that plagues me day and night, and will continue to do so, until I can ask it of Jesus and God in person.

Why oh Why, did our Heavenly Father permit mankind

"FREE WILL"? Why give man the right to choose, obey not obey, love God and Jesus, not love them? Life would have been so perfect and simple without "FREE WILL".

Brother Dave.


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Ken and RevLady, thanks for the endorsement, it helps me to keep going onward!

Dave, we have free will because God actually wants us to CHOOSE to be with Him, and if He had made it that we were totally powerless to resist Him (more powerless than we are anyway, once we KNOW Him) then what would be the point?

Take a read about Smith Wigglesworth, he managed to be totally 'sold out' to God and worked with amazing power, because he took Gods words literally and 'simply believed'.... raising people from the dead (between 14 -22 documented cases, dependent upon who you source) and healing folk on the spot... 'Only Believe' was his constantly repeated phrase.


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Sanctus Vesania 6 years ago

Hi Dave, (and John)

We don't have free will. A lot of people say that free will is the ability to make choices, learn from our mistakes, but the truth is, is that it's not. Free will is the ability to make decisions without external influence, or divine fate.

God is in control of everything. Some Christians ask "Well what's the point if we can't choose whether or not we can love God?" The point is that God loves everyone, and wants to reconcile all to Himself.

I look at this way. What's the point of free will when not making the right choice will land you in an eternal torture chamber? What's the point of free will when making the right choice actually allows you to boast about your salvation, because you chose correctly?


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Whoooaaaa SV, that's a whole new hub right there! and you are entering the grey area of universal salvation -v- eternal damnation, which is not my brief in this hub, nor comments box!

You are declared over the issue, I'm still not ready to support something because it feels right, and fits my belief, until I can understand the mechanics of the issue.

God could have easily defined this in scripture for us all to see WITHOUT CONFUSION.... for God is God of order, not chaos.

Yet we have confusion in the matter once we leave orthodoxy, and acceptance opens more doors than it closes.

I feel there is a hub in this that I will do, one which explores the concept, rather than presents it.

John


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dfager 6 years ago from Federal Way, Washington

I'm also confused about free will, so please do write on it. It confuses me because in my experience, I have no idea how I ever became a Christian because I don't think I would have ever chosen it on my own. It was divine intervention from me, so was I free to choose or not? I just wrote a hub on that intervention, it came in the form of an spontaneous out-of-the-body-experience.


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi Deborah,

I will do so, but right now I have a mother of all colds, so I'm not functioning right!

John


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Davidsonofjesie 6 years ago

agua thats exactly how I believe,you are a gift to our faith


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50 Caliber 6 years ago from Arizona

Hello John, not having read the other hub I feel a tad bit of a disadvantage. Well not really, I just want to read it, 'cuz it's always fun to see what spurred such a reply from you as I see a lot of hard work here with an exceptional lay out!

The "Free will" twists up another ass that has to be ridden down before you can trust it to walk the cliff trails into the Grand Canyon with you on it's back satan is the ass of lies, he'll let you ride and ride as long as you want and when the moment of truth comes after he has let you ride with him, never a stumble he'll get you on the hang 'em high narrow trail where a man nor ass can walk side by side and he'll drop to his knees and throw you into the pit the last thing you hear will be his crazy laugh in your mind, the laugh of a insane thief as he succeeds in the finish of taking your life X2. When you choose Christ and one of the stock of asses in his corral they come with a roll bar for safety and a parachute, if you slip up and grab the reigns and cause the ass to stumble on the narrow cliff his stock will be protected and the parachute will open letting you both float down into safety of forgiveness.

I find his stock to be folks like you John, and Ken Abell, and Dave Mathews and A.M.Werner, and Mickey Dee, to list the ones that pop into mind (if I'm missing you it's old age memory not insult) I have personal contact with some of you and I have Faith that you are trusted stock, (not asses in the non-Biblical sense) It is great to be part of each of you, I was introduced to your writings by John and a few I may have sent notice to John, I don't remember, I trust you all not to mislead me or to take me to a place we should not go, on purpose and I think it would be recognized as "blameless" sin, recognized by Yahweh as such. In the end the choices are mine and as you make a hub and reference the Bible it is ultimately up to me to understand or start praying for the gift of knowledge on the subject.

Brother John, thank you for a thought provoking hub. Feel free to email me the copy of the first, that triggered this. Hint Hint. I will use it for reference only no more conversations on it.

With Much Love and Peace,Dusty


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Disappearinghead 6 years ago from Wales, UK

Hi John,

Another excellent hub. I think the 'many roads' idea and the 'pick and mix' philosphies we have are because people want the eternal life, but don't want to have to change themselves in order to get there. Christ is too much of a challenge to them because He demands a change in our lives. It is perhaps as you quote - "For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved."

If we are honest with ourselves, we have all struggled at some time with reconciling the God who destroyed the Canaanites and picture of Jesus we see in the NT. However, each man has a God given sense of right and wrong, so before Jesus came into the world, men still had no excuse.


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Davidsonofjesie thank you, Dusty, I sent it to you by email, and have read your reply, let me know what you think of the hub I sent!

Disappearinghead....amen.

John


caretakerray 6 years ago

aguasilver:

Didn't Christ say some like "he who has ears to hear...let him hear. He whe have eyes to see ... let him see"?

thanx for a great hub. caretakerray


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

He certainly did caretakerray, thanks for the visit.

John


coffeesnob 6 years ago

Aguasilver,

I greatly appreciate your work here on hp. I will be facilitating a small group on topics of defending our faith at our coffee house. I will be referring a lot to your hubs. Thanks for your hubs


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UlrikeGrace 6 years ago from Canada

Apologetics has always been somewhat of a conundrum for me. I think it is so extremely important to know the reason for our hope and to be able to answer the type of questions which you have here just answered. You laid this out so well and I appreciate the fact that I could logically follow it and therefore learn.

It amazes me so much that the issue of free will or predestination can be so all consuming within the Church. It will be interesting to see your discussion and/or exploration of the subject.

Blessings

UlrikeGrace


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi Ulrike,

The second hub is up there if you want to see it!

http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Predestina...

Stay Blessed,

John


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UlrikeGrace 6 years ago from Canada

Thanks aguasilver...going there now.


allenvaega 6 years ago

I'm so glad you all came to the party!! Now that you all got your assumptions off your chests...please know that what I originally wrote about was based on facts gathered throughout the ages by the Church and the scientists who found the known copies. I know that you all are basing your truth based on the Bible you currently know or are familiar with, unfortunately for you all its full of misrepresented information created by ignorant authors who were unaware of the truth Jesus was trying to convey.

God Bless!


allenvaega 6 years ago

Just to clarify my last comment...I didn't mean authors, I meant interpreters. While I'm here though, this comment made me laugh, "God did indeed bring about the elimination of many rebellious peoples in His old covenant, but if you take time to study the circumstances, He demonstrated extreme tolerance and patience before commanding their extermination." Most Mother's would never hurt their sons let alone kill them (even if they were terrible or evil)...so much for the God of Love.


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi Allen,

Thanks for the reply, you are welcome to post a refutation as well if you feel that I have misinterpreted your position.

I am content to stay with a bible that has served believers well over the centuries, and being aware of the New Age program, also aware that Satan is attempting to denigrate Gods word at every opportunity.

You are correct in that my dealing with your second point could well have been better dealt with, but as you had pulled the page by that time, I felt less inclination to dig deeper and refute an article that was not published any longer.

I will put a little more effort into explaining my position on point two, when I have time.

God removes cancers from society, with love for the patient, not the cancer, and if the cancer stops attacking His body (people) then He will restore that cancer to normality.

When a cell turns cancerous, you either remove it or it will destroy the whole body.

Would a loving God simply stand by and watch a cancer destroy that which He had created?

He is Risen!

John

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