They"re Back!...WMD's

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Confused!

Good Morning, Breakfastpopers. Today is Monday, June 23, 2014. Our noisy, but delightful friend, Chiquita Cicada, is here with me at the breakfast table. Chiquita is more than a little bit confused about the WMD's that were discovered and seized by the terror group ISIS in Iraq. I have to admit that I am confused as well. Please join us for breakfast this morning, so that we can sort things out. We are serving scrambled eggs in recognition of the state of our minds at the moment.


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Brainwashed!

Welcome my, dear human, friends. It has occurred to me this morning that I have fallen prey to the mainstream media. My recollection of events concerning Iraq's "weapons of mass destruction" have been distorted by years of Bush bashing. I try so hard to keep myself informed of world events. I try so hard not to be sucked in by news organizations that have an agenda. Nevertheless, I have to admit that I have forgotten some very important events concerning the notorious and I thought missing WMD'S. When I heard the news this week-end that the terror group ISIS overran a Saddam Hussein chemical weapons complex, I felt my head spinning out of control. Did they just find the supposed non-existant WMD's that President Bush, Prime Minister Tony Blair and the intelligence community were talking about before the Iraq war? The facility they invaded was located 60 miles north of Baghdad. It was the heart of Saddam Hussein's attempt to develop a chemical weapons program in the 80's and 90's. Although efforts have been made to play down the danger involved with this cache of chemicals, the truth is that they are dangerous, not only to Iraqi's but to the rest of the world as well. The site is a sarin poison gas production facility. The terror group is reported to be in contact with an expert in sarin production. Sarin is a manmade toxin developed in Germany. It produces loss of consciousness, convulsions, paralysis and death to those victims that are exposed.

This discovery poses one question above all others. Why was this facility not destroyed long ago? The State Department has tried to downplay the value of the complex, stating that ISIS wouldn't be able to make use of the materials found there because they were too old and contaminated. This bug is not satisfied with their lame answer.

I was shocked to hear of the discovery and capture of this facility. Although I never truly believed reports that there were no WMD's , I thought the discovery should have made headlines. That didn't happen and now I think I know why.


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News Not Fit to Print

Somehow I missed the announcement by former Secretary of State Colin Powell in 2010 that United Nations weapons inspectors have confirmed the existence of WMD's in Iraq. The weapons consisted of more than five thousand sarin gas artillery shells, six thousand gallons of anthrax and two crude nuclear weapons. They were discovered in a bunker by the Syrian border by two Iraqis.

I don't remember any of this, but as news of the discovery spread, crowds formed outside the White House. They were waving signs that said things like. "Bush Didn't Lie, Even if Some People Did Die."

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Clearing My Head

I have to break through the confusion, before I lose my mind. Somehow I missed the news. I wonder how many other people out there missed it as well. In any case, I will attempt to bring myself and perhaps others up to speed by introducing international columnist and college professor Amir George. Professor George was in Iraq before and after we went into Iraq. He has written a book , "Liberating Iraq." George's account of the situation in Iraq contradicts the pervasive theory that George Bush lied or that American intelligence was flawed. He says that part of the WMD's were flown into Iran, others to Syria and still others were buried in the desert. When asked why these events seemed not to come to the attention of the Bush administration, the response was startling. Many of the WMD's were ours!. They had been supplied to Saddam Hussein by the United States during Iraq's war with Iran. Now that is what I call an embarrassing inconvenient truth.

Despite the origin of some of the weapons, the fact remains. The WMD's always existed. They posed a threat to Iraqi's and world security then and they do now. What are we going to do about it, Mr. President?

Chiquita's Song


I'm Chiquita Cicada and I'm here to say

The WMD's are here

To this day!

WMD's

Were you aware of the existence of WMD's in Iraq?

  • Yes, I remember hearing that they were found and that President Bush was vindicated.
  • No, I don't recall hearing about this.
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43 comments

Old Poolman profile image

Old Poolman 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

Chiquita - For the sake of your own sanity, you must stop trying to make sense of anything reported or disclosed by this administration.

If you question the reported discovery of these WMD you will only get yet another lie that will further confuse you.

I'll give you a list of possible lies so you may be prepared when they are announced.

1. ISIS planted the WMD's to make Obama look bad and prove the GWB was correct.

2. These are not WMD's, they are merely burn barrels used to dispose of IRS emails that were no longer needed.

3. This report was on FOX News and everyone knows they distort the truth. You need to start watching MSNBC if you want truth.

So do yourself a favor Chiquita, just kick back and wait as the truth will change many times before it can be confirmed and written in the history books.


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Dear friend, Mike,

Now that's the first true thing I can believe in! See you at the Inn.


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Tom Whitworth 2 years ago from Moundsville, WV

Pop and Chiquita,

Oh what a tangled web we weave.......... It does make ones head spin. I loved the explanation that the chemicals are NOW too old to be effective. Leaves out the obvious that they were 12 years younger in 2002.


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billybuc 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

Blah, blah, and more blah. If it is a political issue I believe there is a lie involved. That makes it very easy for me when I read the news. :)

Have a great day.


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Good Morning Tom,

The web is growing thicker. Pretty soon we won't be able to see or understand a thing. I suppose that's the whole point. See you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Good Morning billy,

I see your point, but this time we are talking about WMD's in the hands of some pretty nasty people. Given our "open and porous" border, this is very bad news. See you later at the Inn.


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fpherj48 2 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Of course the news is "bad".......Is anything....ANYTHING.."good" any longer? Although I clearly understood every word you wrote, pop...my immediate response might contradict my awareness.......WHAT???!!!

WMD's in the hands of savage terrorists. Nothing could be more lethal, disastrous and frightening.


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Brie Hoffman 2 years ago from Manhattan

It worked so well the first time, why not!

Seriously, I often think about escaping to another country..if I only knew of a decent one to escape to.


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Gawth 2 years ago from Millboro, Virginia

I had to deliberate your poll question. I have never heard anything announced officially but I talked to a soldier who was on the MWD search teams in Iraq and he told me "we found what we went looking for--and then said "I can't say more than that due to secrecy laws and he could not or would not comment further." Since he made that statement, I have been suspicious that a discovery did take place. If so, why would they not announce it? If you make a discovery please tell me.


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The Frog Prince 2 years ago from Arlington, TX

Some of these news sites on the net make me see just how stupid the progressive talking heads can be. Was on one the other day where these liberal freaks were claiming the rediscovery of the chemical sites in Iraqq did not vindicate GW Bush. To them chemical weapons are not WMD's which I find utterly stupid to say the least. So I mentioned the recent fact to them that inspectors in Syria were having chemical munitions of Iraqi origin turned into them for destruction along with various delivery systems.

Their arguments then went downhill and became insane as they usually do. One claimed that it was claimed that Saddam had nukes. Never happened anywhere but in their festered minds. They seem intent, even to this day, by manufacturing facts and blaming Bush rather than zeroing in on Obama and his total incompetence on the world stage and in running this nation.

TFP


Hxprof 2 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

Well, the fact that Hussein's WMD's were supplied by the US has always been a non-issue with me. After the first Gulf War Hussein was told to get rid of his WMD's - period. We didn't tell him to get rid of all his WMD's except those supplied by the US during his war with Iran. Hussein didn't comply - that's true. However, I still believe that Bush's claims that Iraq was a danger to us because he had these weapons to be, well, weak. Hussein was under wraps after the first war, and we could have kept him there.


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savvydating 2 years ago

OK, that is embarrassing. Do you think Bush was just trying to cover himself, knowing the U.S. had given Sadaam these weapons in the first place? Well, that would also explain why Syria has so many chemical weapons. Yikes. This is all so awful, confusing and distressing.

I don't know what to think, but thanks for the news!


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WillStarr 2 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

When virtually every intelligence agency in the world said that Saddam Hussein possessed stockpiles of WMD's, it's almost inconceivable that they were all dead wrong.

I suspect that they were found, but for some reason, the discoveries were kept secret, and Bush chose to bite the bullet of international scorn rather than endanger his country. Maybe someday we will learn the truth.

Bill Clinton also believed Saddam had WMD's when he was president:

http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Dear fp,

My level of frustration with this administration and this Congress is through the roof! In terms of scandals Obama wins the prize and yet he is still in office. I guess Congress is waiting for him to ruin us forever. See you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Dear Brie,

How about Costa Rica? I hear the populace is educated, cultured and fond of Americans. They also have excellent medical care at fabulously low prices. See you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Dear Gawth,

I believe your soldier friend was telling you the truth. Apparently, many of the weapons found were supplied by our country. I can only suppose that the administration thought it better to take the heat for not finding WMD'S than admit that they were found with our stamp all over them. See you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Dear Frog Prince,

Facts are facts. Iraq had WMD's which of course explains all those mass graves of Iraqi citizens. . He used these chemical weapons on his own peopleAs for liberals accessing the facts and then reaching an intelligent conclusion...well. that is never going to happen. People like those you refer to are wedded to ideology and the facts and truth be damned. See you at the Inn. Maybe you can help refresh my memory about these WMD's in terms of a timeline.


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Dear Hxprof,

The fear was that the WMD's would fall into the wrong hands and spell deep trouble for Iraq, its neighbors and the world. I think we still have to be concerned about that happening. I'll see you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Dear savvydating,

I haven't a clue what was going on at the time. Between the secrets, the lack of reporting and the disinformation, my head is spinning. Having said that I always thought it strange that we gave Iraq so much notice about our search for the weapons. I thought it entirely possible that they were moved out of the country and now there is strong evidence that this is what happened. See you at the Inn where truth and honesty still matter.


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Dear Will,

The suggestion is that Bush would rather "bite the bullet" than admit that the WMD's were ours. See you at the Inn where things still make sense.


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fpherj48 2 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Can't believe you mentioned, "Costa Rica!" My son and DIL went there on vacation....did not want to return home and my son is determined to move there!! Perhaps that really IS a wonderful choice! Well....not much could be worse for us at this point than Obamaland....It's enough to make me scream, spit and cry, all at once. Lotta good that does.


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Fear fp,

My husband and I will have to get down there this year. Maybe we should all take a look. See you at the Inn and we'll talk about the great escape.


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Old Poolman 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

Warning - Many who visit Costa Rica for the first time decide that is where they want to live. You really need to start telling people how terrible and unfriendly Costa Rica really is to save some space for the rest of us when we decide to move there.


Pino Krisio 2 years ago

POP: the MSM is still not reporting on this. This should be big news; instead, pres. Bush, VP cheney and PM tony Blair will go down in history for waging a war on WMDs that never existed. they need to be vindicated at any cost. Off to the bar.....


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Good Morning,Mike,

OMG! You are right. I'll begin immediately. See you later at the Inn. I want to find out what part of Costa Rica I should visit first.


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Good Morning Pino,

I now have a strong feeling that they would like to let sleeping dogs lie, since many of the WMD's were supplied by the U.S. and its allies. This whole situation is so weird....See you at the Inn. I'll save you a seat and order you a Pino Grigio.


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Brie Hoffman 2 years ago from Manhattan

In Costa Rica, the expats have to live in gated communities to be safe..is that any way to live?


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Old Poolman 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

Brie - Not sure where you got that information but nothing could be further from the truth. I guess it might depend on what area you live in but where I have been in Costa Rica that is just not true.


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Brie Hoffman 2 years ago from Manhattan

Ok, maybe I'm getting it mixed up with another country.


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Old Poolman 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

Brie, some expats do live in gated communities, but they would live in gated communities even here in the USA. I have never had any problems in Costa Rica and actually feel safer there than downtown in my own city. The largest city in Costa Rica is San Jose, and yes, there are areas of town to stay out of, but that is true of any large city in the world. I doubt the crime rate in Costa Rica is anywhere near what ours is here in the USA.

Anyhow, thanks for getting back to me.


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Dear Brie,

I don't believe that your statement is accurate. Costa Rica is a very stable democratic country with an intelligent populace. You might be thinking of another country. See you at the Inn.


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Brie Hoffman 2 years ago from Manhattan

Well, I stand corrected! Maybe I should look at Costa Rica more closely!


Pino Krisio 2 years ago

Brie: I live in a gated community in Florida.HAHAHA!!!!!

Actually Costa Rica is very safe. I have been there as well, and cannot wait to go back. Maybe we should have a reunion for Breakfast Poppers there. Wouldn't that be great!!!!


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Dear Pino,

I love the idea!


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Old Poolman 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

If anyone is interested, just Google search "Nosara, Costa Rica." That is where I spend most of my time when I visit CR and there is just no way you would not love it. That would be a great place to have our Breakfast Pop convention.


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Brie Hoffman 2 years ago from Manhattan

Will do


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Dear Mike,

I am getting excited!


Old Poolman profile image

Old Poolman 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

Wouldn't that be interesting and a fun thing to do? Meeting people in person we have communicated with for years?


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Good Morning , Mike,

I think of that all the time...


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teaches12345 2 years ago

I consider the daily news entertainment these days... never believe what you hear until you check it out for yourself. Thanks for the news on WMDs.


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Dear teaches,

If only the news was truly entertaining. I find it unbearable. See you at the Inn.


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Mel Carriere 2 years ago from San Diego California

Yeah that part must have slipped quietly under the radar because the last I heard they never existed. I guess whoever sits in the Oval Office, Dem or Rep, gets to control the spin. By the way, your Cicada is too noisy, I can't enjoy my eggs. Great hub !


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breakfastpop 2 years ago Author

Dear Mel,

Get earplugs!

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