Things That Are Different Are Not the Same Part 2

If you have not done so, please read Part 1 first as this lays the foundation for this article.The link is below.

As I mentioned in Part One of this series, "Your decisions and your choices are exactly that - yours. I will not offer my opinion, but facts that can easily be verified. The truth is that things that are different are not the same."

I am in no way trying to be argumentative or self-righteous..My purpose is to inform and challenge you on the topic of Bible versions. With that as my goal, I offer no opinions, just verifiable facts. I left you last time with the fact that the New International Version (NIV) removes 64,576 words from the Biblical text ignoring the warning of Revelation 22:18, 19 and Deuteronomy 4:2.Clearly things that are 64,000 words different are not the same.

Luke 2:2-4 tells an interesting story. Satan is very subtle in his attacks, but nevertheless he is effective in what he does. The Christian is commanded in Ephesians 6 to put on the whole armor of God. We are also told in I Peter 5:8 to be vigilant and on guard because our adversary the devil seeks to devour us.

Notice this subtle but glaring difference between the King James Bible and the NIV. The King James bible gives us what is commonly known as the Lord's Prayer - ". . .Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. Give us day by day our daily bread. And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

The (NIV) reads as follows: :Father, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread. Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation." The NIV as well as the New American Standard Version (NASV) and the New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) remove "which art in heaven. . .thy will be done as in heaven, so on earth. . .but deliver us from evil." In these (per)versions, no mention of heaven is made whatsoever. There is no deliverance from evil. Let me ask you, if this father is not in heaven and does not deliver from evil who might he be?

Satan has always been out to usurp God's authority and position (Isaiah 14:12-15). Here in the supposed Lord's Prayer, it subtly becomes the devil's prayer. The deliverance of evil is done away with. The abode of God and Jesus Christ is not the home of the "father". But wait, there is more.

In the same passage in Isaiah 14, verse 12 we read in the NIV, the NASV, and the NRSV, "How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn." Things that are different are not the same, so how does the KJB differ and what does it matter? The same verse in the KJB says this, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!" That's the difference. Now, what does it matter?

The simple truth is that in the new versions Isaiah 14:12 is nothing short of blasphemy. Revelation 22:16 tells us who is the Morning Star - "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." Jesus, and Jesus alone is the Morning Star. If you hold a high view of Jesus, this should be very disturbing to you, and you should want to distance yourself from such filth.

The truly sad thing about this mistranslation is that there is no basis for it whatsoever. The Hebrew word translated star in the English (kokab) is not to be found anywhere in the Isaiah passage. It is simply there to mislead.

Next time we will look at complete verse removals from Scripture. Stay with me with an open mind.

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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

Thank you for writing this hub. It frightens me that words have been removed from the bible. I have never studied the NIV nor do I use the NASV. As for the Lord's Prayer I still use the one, I was taught as a child. That one will never be changed, because I cannot. I also know that Jesus is the Bright and Morning Star. Yes, the devil does try to fool all of us, by blinding us, and changing what we read.

This hub is wonderful and I am looking for the next one.


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lambservant 4 years ago from Pacific Northwest

I do not use the NIV for the very reasons you mentioned. My Bible is NKJ, and I often use the NLT for a better clarification once in a while. Thanks for a great and informative hub. God Bless.


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Cherry4 4 years ago from New York

Keep spreading the truth because i am very much interested and will support the word of truth at all times....I read it all and many need to read this too. There is another guy on fb who wrote about the new Bibles and the removal of God's word and not many will like to hear the truth but the word stands. Very interesting hub to educate both the believer and non believer.


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lifegate 4 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

Michele,

It is frightening because most people are unaware of the danger and the hidden agenda, but yet it is very real. Thanks for following along in this series.


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lifegate 4 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

LS,

Glad you're staying away from the NIV. The NIV certainly is not the only culprit, but it does seem to be the most widely used. Thanks for checking in!


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lifegate 4 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

C4,

Thanks for stopping by and for the encouragement. Glad you're able to stop by and check things out. Part three will be up shortly.


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skye2day 4 years ago from Rocky Mountains

Lifegate Awesome. Wow! This is an eye opener for all. The twisted scripture is moving along at a rapid pace! The Holy Spirit is pouring out to move hearts. Jesus wants not one no not one to perish. We have the victory in Christ, amen.

Praise God, His truth will Stand!!!!!!!!!!!!. Thanks again for another eye opening hub, brother. Hugs your sista in Christ. Skye

Keep Going!!U will Phil 4:13


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lifegate 4 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

It's amazing how subtle, small changes can destroy purity, but it does. There's so much more I want to share. I just hope I don't try to add more than that's necessary. I'm trying very hard to keep things at a minimum, but the perversion of Scripture bothers me, and there's so much. thanks for following along, Sista!


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Cherry4 4 years ago from New York

I am not seeing part three, is it up yet?


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lifegate 4 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

No Cherry4, I'm a little slow, but I'll add it soon. Thanks for following this series.


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skye2day 4 years ago from Rocky Mountains

lifegate b assured The Spirit of God will let you know!!! He will show you discernment. Keep going lifegate!!

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lifegate 4 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

Thanks Skye!


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Jackie Lynnley 4 years ago from The Beautiful South

I don't use the NIV either, I have to say though I really like to use my Zondervan along with the King James because it clarifies so well and if you know anything on it I would want to know of course. There was a time I was in bible study and very young and had seen the Zondervan but couldn't afford one and a friend told me about throwing his copy in the trash and it just about broke my heart.


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lifegate 4 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

Jackie,

I'm hoping to show over the next several posts the danger of the new versions because the manuscripts that were translated aren't the true manuscripts. I just finished part 3 and mentioned a little about it, but I'll be getting more into it as we go on. As far as the Zondervan, I'm not real familiar with it, but I'll try to do some checking for you. Thanks for staying with this!


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Cherry4 4 years ago from New York

Lifegate, i see part three but i cannot comment on it. So i decided if i cannot comment and support you on part three i will support you on part two for three because you are speaking the truth and sharing useful, interesting information that all believers and non believers should take a note of. Many are sneaking in with intent to pervert the things and ways of God in order to scatter the flock but thank God for true Ministers who are willing to expose all anti- Christ. Thanks for part three.


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lifegate 4 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

Cherry,

Not sure what the problem is with part three. it might be worth trying it again later. At any rate, thanks for stopping by and for the support. You're a blessing!


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lifegate 4 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

Jackie,

I tried to do some research on the Zondervan Bible, but there were so many. Could you be more specific as to which one you use. i. e. "reference", "study", "women's:, etc.? Also what scripture version is being used? They seem to deal mostly with the NIV.Thanks!


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Tamarajo 4 years ago from Southern Minnesota

Excellent and relevant examples of these differences.


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lifegate 4 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

TJ,

It's all there (or isn't). All one has to do is check it out. Thanks for adding to the conversation. Have a blessed Lord's Day tomorrow!


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Tamarajo 3 years ago from Southern Minnesota

Bill was just looking up Isaiah 14 referenced your article in the Hebrew. You are correct that it should read son of the morning but neither translation should read star it should read shining one. Star is a different word then the one used here. Just thought it was interesting as I am 're reading these articles checking out an online only translation called lexham that uses the correct names of God and thus far the most accurate translation of Psalm 23. Much more to check though. I want to check out more of the New Testament stuff to see if that lines up your articles are useful for this.


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lifegate 3 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

Thanks for stopping back. When you say " . . . neither translation should read star it should read shining one" which are you referring to? Isaiah 14 and Revelation 22? I'm finding out that even dictionaries, concordances, etc differ. I'm not a Hebrew or Greek scholar so I rely on Strong's Exhaustive concordance keyed to the KJB. Concerning Revelation 22:16 (if that is the verse in question), "Probably from the base of G4766, a star (as shown over the sky), literally or figuratively - star". Let me know if that's not the verse you meant.


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Tamarajo 3 years ago from Southern Minnesota

Isaiah 14 should read shining one. Star in Hebrew is chocav and the word used in this passage isn't that word. In fact it is the only time it is used in scripture. Biblos.com has an interlinear that is strongs linked and coded where you can look it up. I think it confirms your point in the article that the niv confuses the whole who is the morning star issue


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lifegate 3 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

Thanks TJ, The morning star certainly is a shining one. Either way, that's my Jesus!

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