Treading the Waters.

Tread the waters

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Who is your master? you serve?
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Look into the mirror.

Recently, I went into the forum to tread the waters. I seldom go there because many times it is like clanging cymbals. The writer wanted to know why he be considered less of a Christian because he did not believe in a hell. Although later in the forum, he did mention that God is indeed judge. He states we need to look in the mirror, do our part in this world, and quit looking at others beliefs. I could not help myself and felt led to reply which turned into a hub. This was a difficult one to tackle. I praise God it is finally written and I am putting it out believing the Holy Spirit will do the touching.

First sir what is less of a Christian? Either we believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior of our life or we do not. Christianity is a relationship with Jesus Christ. When we confess our sin and ask Jesus into our heart as Lord and Savior than we are born again into the family of God. If you believe in Jesus, you believe. Many Christians are not aware of His thousands and thousands of promises to us but that does not make them less than a Christian. His grace changes our hearts and leads us into righteousness. It is nothing we can do or earn. We are not capable. Jesus works on our hearts to change them. Some are more mature in the Lord than others are in the Lord but that does not make anyone less of a Christian. We start somewhere. We grow in faith and understanding. The Holy Spirit of God reveals Jesus to us when we are born again into the family of God. God is no respecter of people. He loves His children. We need to fan the fire for Christ by staying diligent in His word. He wants to pour His blessing on us. It is for our benefit to hear His instruction. The Bible has given us all the answers. We need to be diligent in hearing the word. It is how our faith grows. Jesus is the way, truth and life. (John 6:14)

Sir as far as being less of a Christian because one does not believe in hell is false teaching. To emphasize, if this is what you want to believe and say you are a Christian than bring the scripture verse to my attention please. There is no place in scripture that says there is no hell. Our Spirits go to eternity when we die. (Mark 12:8) A true Christians is assured of where we go when we pass, it is to heaven, eternity with God. Why do you think a true Christian is desperate to share the message of salvation? We are talking about eternity. You are correct Christians do not go to hell the blood of Jesus has cleansed us from sin and made us righteous before God.

You know if you love Jesus and have a relationship with him. If you are misled to believe there is not a hell then you are deceived. ( Daniel 12:2) The devil wants to take any and all he can to hell with him and his fallen angels. The devil is the father of lies. Many do believe we go poof if we want too when we die, not so. Wishing does not make it happen. Scripture is very clear on where we go when we pass from this planet. Back to the father, one side of the gulf or the other. (Luke16:21-24) No one really wants to be on the other side of the fence, do they? There is no compromise in the word of God. It is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.


We serve a master.

Bob Dylan wrote a song in the early sixties, ‘ Gotta Serve Somebody.’ It reached number 3 on the US billboards. His fellow musicians of that day gave him allot of flak in relation to the song, including from John Lennon. He wrote the song ‘Serve Yourself’ shortly after mocking Dylan for injecting religion into his hit song. The theme of Lennon's song,'You gotta serve yourself/Aint no one gonna do it for you.’ It seems for humans in all of time it is such a hard concept to grasp. Whom do we serve? You can not serve two masters. Is your master the love or money, fame, food, woman, men, alcohol, drugs,work or God? 'No one can serve two masters for either he will hate the one and love the other or he will be devoted to one and despise the other.' (Matthew 6:24)

Bob Dylan writes this about being born again. “Being born again is a hard thing … We don’t like to lose those old attitudes and hang-ups. Conversion takes time because you have to learn to crawl before you can walk. You have to learn to drink milk before you can eat meat. You’re reborn, but like a baby. A baby doesn’t know anything about this world, and that’s what it’s like when you’re reborn. You’re a stranger. You have to learn all over again.” -Bob Dylan, 1980

God does know whom He will choose; you are so right about that, sir. God is the judge. He chose us first, before the foundations of the world. (Ephesians 1:4) God wants not one to perish, no not one! (2 Peter 3:1) God does write in His word about judgment. He keeps it no secret either. We will face God. If we deny Jesus Christ His Son, who atoned and died for our sins than we are denied eternal life with Jesus the Savior. We do not go poof if we fail the test. Our Spirit’s are eternal and will go to heaven or hell.

To fear (revere) the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. (Proverbs 9:10) Wisdom comes in knowing Jesus Christ. (Relationship with Him) Are we like the Pharisee and Scribe who shun and spit out the true Messiah; believing our works will get us to God. The law points us to why we need a Savior. They will say to the Lord on that day. Surely Lord you will pick me. ‘I helped my brother. I gave to this cause and that cause. I shook hands with the neighbors and had them over for dinner. I went to church and gave my tithe. I fasted. I volunteered at the food bank. I am not an adulterer, like my neighbor.’ A fool has no delight in wisdom but that his heart may discover itself. (Proverbs 18:2)

I was in a mud pit, sinking. The hand of Jesus came to my rescue. I said, ‘yes’ to Jesus. I am humbled on my knees that I sinner am forgiven; past, present, future sin. I know where I am going after this life. It is to heaven, for all of eternity. (John 3:16) Why would I not long to tell others what Jesus did for me and will do for you. Jesus saved my life on earth and gave me a new life. Now a child of Almighty God am about my Father’s business to share the good news of salvation.

God is no respecter of people. He goes after His people. Why is the world in such a pickle that they hate Christians? Because there is a devil Satan, who wants to take everyone he can to hell with him. He deceives all he can. (John 8:44) Satan, judged to hell knows it. (Revelation 20) God does not want His people there. Jesus is our only hope and victory in this crazy, mixed up, messed up, evil, greedy, morally abased, corrupt, deceived world we live.

True wisdom starts at the cross, where Jesus died for us, rose again on the third day, ascended into Heaven and sits at the right hand of God so we can live and not die in our sin to eternal hell, but to eternal life with the Lord. Not even a bad trade off. Only believe and confess, Jesus will come into your heart. (Romans 10:9-10) The Holy Spirit of God will reveal Jesus to you. You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.

His grace and mercy shield us and give us favor. (Grace; freely given what I do not deserve and cannot earn) His mercies are new every day. He will take us dear sir. though the storms of life. He is our refuge and our strong tower. I hope you consider the choice dear sir It is in the name of Jesus who is love, I write. Not because I am all good, because our Lord Jesus is all-good and loved us first. All Glory to God.

In Christ Jesus,

With Love Skye

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skye2day 2 years ago from Rocky Mountains Author

torrilynn By the Spirit of God precious woman, I write. U are most welcome on fan mail. I am trilled God has put us in each others path. There is no mistake in Gods world. Amen. Keep Going daughter of the King. Keep em coming. Love n Hugs. Skye


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torrilynn 2 years ago

A unique and beautiful way of writing. Thank you for the fan mail. I cant wait to read more from you. Voted up and interesting. Best of wishes!


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skye2day 2 years ago from Rocky Mountains Author

Precious Nell Rose. Yes, Faith is personal indeed. It is a choice we make in this lifetime. Also whom we are going to believe in is another choice we make. I choose to call on El Shaddai. (Almighty God) I know I can depend on Him. He never changes and will never break a promise. I believe you will be led to the right Doctor for your bro. My very best to you Nell Rose bud. Please know you and yours are in my prayers. Hugs and Love, Skye.


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Nell Rose 2 years ago from England

Hi Skye, I always believe that to have faith Its a personal thing, and why people argue the point is beyond me! lol! I believe what I believe, and I am glad you do too, wonderful post Skye, and hugs to you, nell


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skye2day 2 years ago from Rocky Mountains Author

Tamarajo Dear and precious sister. I am blessed with your visit. I always love seeing you. God Bless you for stopping in to see me. I will be on your block soon. I know you have been a busy woman. Keep going darling sister. In His love, Christ Jesus.


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Tamarajo 2 years ago from Southern Minnesota

Well expressed Skye. I appreciated your genuineness and passion for the truth in your article. Truth in love.

Bless you Dear Skye!


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Knightheart 3 years ago from MIssouri, USA

As God has said in His Word, once you are saved, nothing can take that away, it is a promise of Almighty God. Even though, IF saved, we are all Christians, but like anything else, there are different degrees, not that they are any less of a Christian, but their service to God is what varies. Some, as you surely know, are mighty, doing God's work continuously day in and day out. While others, just sit back and do little. And then all the level in between. It is sad, but true.

Just as all believers that have been saved will enter Heaven, as promised, we are not all equal. When we participate in the Judgement Seat of Christ, the event where our rewards for our life on Earth will be given, we will then know how we 'measured up' to God's standard. Many will receive GREAT rewards and others will not. Tears will be shed at this event, not because of sin, but because we will know of the rewards we have lost when we had the opportunity to do God's work on Earth.

As the Apostle Paul stated so many times when He began starting churches, some Christians were mature, others were 'babes' Of course, mature Christians have a duty to help the less mature to grow, getting off the 'milk' and onto solid food. God knows we are all individuals, he created us and knew us BEFORE He even created us!

We are His creations...he does not do INFERIOR work, we are not less of a Christian though our belief system may need some fine tuning. As the person in the forums stated not believing in Hell...well, that just tells me he needs to get into the Word and get the facts! There is a Hell, it is stated over and over, so wherever he heard that there wasn't was from a false teacher or other skewed source. Whatever we believe or not believe has only ONE authority...it is God's Word. ALL of our beliefs have to be compared to what God's Words says about that subject and that is the final authority. Just as some believe in Purgatory, that is another myth from who knows where. No place in the Bible does it say there is a place called Purgatory...but millions believe it, even Christians!

None of us deserve anything from God...not one! We all deserve to go to Hell for our sins and actions...and all Believers know this truth as painful as it is to accept. Only by Jesus dieing for our sins were we made Holy and are right with God. Accepting Jesus for this is the ONLY way to be a real Christian...God and Jesus said it over and over. There is no other way to get to Heaven...not good works, nothing. We only have to take God's gift and believe in the finished work at Calvary, where by Jesus's death, God now see us sinners, through His Son's blood, making us righteous and holy in God's sight.

Knightheart


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skye2day 3 years ago from Rocky Mountains Author

Faith Reaper. My sister. You are so darling. I just love you. I so understand about entering the forum. Many times I go in and back right out. It is like night and day in there. If one seed can be planted Praise God All Glory to Him. If one shred of light put out the dark yes Lord Jesus. I am so grateful for the ones that had hope for me. I did not listen at the time but I look back and go wow that is what they were saying. God does the saving and let us keep going dear sister and share the good news of the Gospel. Gods favor shines on you girl. May each day be rich in His Glory and Goodness on you and yours. In Christ, sending hugs galore. Skye.

Phil 4:13!!!


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skye2day 3 years ago from Rocky Mountains Author

lifegate. My brother I am always blessed by your presence. The Holy Spirit moves on you and jumps out onto the pages of hubs dear brother. I do dare to go in on occasion as led. Many times I do back out quickly. Most times I cannot comment it is like a bunch of clanging cymbals. It is like clanging cymbals. They do not understand my words because the Holy Spirit of God reveals Jesus to us.

Anyway God does the saving so as led I will pop in. If one word of God is planted on a heart and one seed grows Glory to God. Love you lifegate. Peace and love to you and yours in Christ Jesus. Skye.


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skye2day 3 years ago from Rocky Mountains Author

cleaner3 Awwe I needed a word like that cleaner. God is so awesome and sends those God winks of His at the perfect time. Only because of the Holy Spirit can I write His word. I am honored to do so. It is not always easy. Glory to God He blesses us and pours out His favor. His grace is sufficient enough. Thank you so much for coming over to visit. I love to see you. I will be over soon for a read. God Bless you precious cleaner. Keep going. U will Phil 4:13 Skye


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skye2day 3 years ago from Rocky Mountains Author

lastheart. I am touched to see you at my pages. You are precious indeed. May Gods favor abound on you and yours today and always. Yes and amen lastheart He sent His word to set us free. Keep going child. of God. Stand on the Rock of Jesus and let those colors of yours shine for Christ. Love n Peace to all. Skye


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skye2day 3 years ago from Rocky Mountains Author

Michael Milec. How nice to see you. I have missed you. Thank you for sharing a strong word of truth dearest bro. All Glory to God. He has redeemed us and set us free. We are blessed indeed. Jesus does the saving! Praise God we have been given the power in the blood of Jesus. The name above all names. I love you Michael and back at you bro. Be Blessed in His Holy Name. Hugs galore. Skye


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Michael-Milec 3 years ago

Hello, skye2day.

Persuasive. Interesting message for both " Christians" and none christians by the same token.

The redeemed ones will identify as being part of the family of God ( we do without difficulty), since after the repentance they were ( we are ) washed by the Blood of the Lamb. Everyone gone through the process becoming a new creation , KNOWS .

" Those infuriated by the Name of Jesu can't contain the demonic spirit controlling them." -MichaEL

Voted up and useful.

Please, accept all the blessings of the Almighty !


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Lastheart 3 years ago from Borikén the great land of the valiant and noble Lord

skye2day amen! Psalm 107:20 "He sent His word and healed them, And delivered them from their destructions."


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cleaner3 3 years ago from Pueblo, Colorado

Wow. your hub is a great write.. dear Skye.. you are very eloquent with your explanation and show your conviction in the Praise of the lord . you are a great writer .. and I love to read your work .. Bless you ..

Michael


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lifegate 3 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

Bless your heart Sista for daring to enter the forums. I can't stand the religious forum because it seems it's anything but religious. I like your line, "A true Christians is assured of where we go when we pass, it is to heaven, eternity with God." - the keyword being "true". True or false, that makes all the difference. Thanks for taking a stand for righteousness.


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Faith Reaper 3 years ago from southern USA

Oh, God bless you dearest Sister in Christ and Daughter of the King, Skye,

I posted a forum one time to simply ask for prayer for the victims of Hurricane Sandy, and I tell you what, I will never post a forum again. I have seen it done before, but this was particularly nasty and it was for prayer! Thank goodness other Christians came on in defense.

I am so sorry I just now saw this and missed the forum too. Thank you for standing up for our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. You can stand firm as you have been dipped in the blood, and that is where the power is, in the blood of Jesus, who paid that highest price for all of our sins.

One cannot be a true follower of our sweet Lord Jesus, and pick and choose want one wants to believe when a Christian. The Word of God, is the living and active Word of God, and is the infallible Word of God, as it is God-breathed.

It is the name of Jesus that infuriates those who do not truly know Him and the cross is foolishness to them, for they do not know Him. It is when we have the personal and intimate relationship with our Lord, that is when is sheep know His voice and He knows them, otherwise He does not know them in that personal relationship which is key.

It will not be too much longer when He returns, I just feel this deeply in my heart, then every eye will see and every knee will bow. Praise Him! To God be the glory!

I love you dearest sister Skye! You have caught His eye this day by taking a stand for Jesus.

Voted up ++++ and sharing

In His Love, Faith Reaper


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skye2day 3 years ago from Rocky Mountains Author

Jackie Blessings dear and precious sister. I am so glad to see you at this hub. Yes indeed Jackie scripture is loud and clear about the side of the gulf we will be on. Heaven or Hell. Remember the rich man and Lazarus. Luke 16: 19-21 He wanted just a touch of water. He could see to the other side of the gulf. The poor man was on Abrahams bosom. God tells us many times. Jesus is the only way to eternal life with Him. Many seem not to really grasp this as truth. May God help them before it is too late sister. I am so grateful I was chosen. God wants no one to perish. We do not go poof because we do not believe. Wishful thinking. Keep going sweet Jackie shine your colors. U will, I know it. Phil 4:13 Love you dear friend. Hugs galore to you and yours. Skye.


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Jackie Lynnley 3 years ago from The Beautiful South

I do believe that scriptures teach hell is as everlasting as heaven and those bodies that go there will be everlasting as ours in heaven are receiving blessings. Great stand to take. ^


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skye2day 3 years ago from Rocky Mountains Author

Ms Dora, Oh sister thank you so much for coming in for a read. The Lord knew I needed your words. I am so grateful to serve Him and it ain't always easy. How my heart hurts for the lost. Jesus must weep at this fallen world. One day Alleluia, Praise the Lord, He is going to return. In the time we keep going on to the race of Glory all for His namesake. Cheers to you dear and precious sister. I just love you. Hugs. Skye


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MsDora 3 years ago from The Caribbean

Skye, you came through loud and clear. It's all about a relationship between Jesus and His follower. You can't be less of a follower. The relationship calls for total commitment. Thank you for addressing this.

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