Christ was a Man just like You and I

  • Was Yahshua our Messiah simply a human?
  • Was He God?
  • Was He a demigod?

Many have preconceived notions, ideas and opinions when they read Scripture because the words that have been translated into English from the language of earliest manuscripts may not convey with clarity the message that is meant to be understood. When there is a lack of unity concerning the interpretation of Scripture, appealing to the original autographs for clarity may be helpful.

The purpose of this article is to encourage truth seekers to weigh and test the English words of their Bibles with the original languages that Yahweh inspired in His Word and find patterns with Scripture interpreting Scripture to bring forth evidences of consistency. In this case, God's truth will reveal who Yahshua is by appealing to the Hebrew and Greek for further clarity on the meaning of "God" (Elohim) as a precursor to who he is in relation to us.


Moses (Elohim)


But now, O LORD (Yah·weh), you are our Father – Isaiah 64:8


And the LORD (Yah·weh) said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God (’ĕ·lō·hîm) to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet. - Exodus 7:1


Here Yahweh says to Moses that he is like “God.”

Moses was like “God” because He served, honored, approached and spoke to the Father in His presence. Moses believed that the Father was the One true God and became the mediator between God and His people.


With him I speak mouth to mouth, clearly, and not in riddles, and he beholds the form of the LORD. – Numbers 12:8


Hmmm...something to think about.
Hmmm...something to think about.

Yahshua Messiah (Elohim)


Yet you have made him a little lower than the heavenly beings (’ĕ·lō·hîm) and crowned him with glory and honor. – Psalm 8:5


You made him for a little while lower than the angels; you have crowned him with glory and honor – Hebrews 2:7


The Psalmist is prophesying that the Father would make Yahshua lower than the angels confirmed later in Hebrews.

Leaders of Israel (Elohim)


I said, “You are gods (’ĕ·lō·hîm), sons of the Most High, all of you – Psalm 82:6


Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? - John 10:34


Yahshua was saying to the leadership of Israel that they are gods (’ĕ·lō·hîm) by quoting Psalm 82:6.


Elohim, Absolute and Appointed


It it is shown that by reading through various Scripture verses and cross referencing with the Hebrew (’ĕ·lō·hîm) and the Greek (theos) words, allowing Scripture to interpret Scripture, reveals that the term God is used in an absolute sense, but also refers to "God" as an appointed person(s) that He uses to fulfill His purposes. Even Satan is referred to as a “God” (theos).


In their case the god (theos) of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. – 2 Corinthians 4:4


It is clear that God designates men as “God,” but in an absolute sense the Father, Yahweh is the one and only God.


Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of uprightness; you have loved righteousness and hated wickedness. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions – Psalm 45:6-7


In this verse Yahweh calls someone “God” because He has appointed that person as "God" (Elohim). In this case, Yahshua receives the appointment of His throne from the Father, his Elohim. Yahweh is the absolute Elohim because He is the eternal Father and the one true God and Yahshua is the appointed one (elohim).


Yahshua Messiah, the Human Son of God


And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God (Theos), and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. – John 17:3


The representation of who Yahshua is, as a human, comes from His Father (Yahweh). He was given the authority to represent the Father in His relation to human beings. Those who do not honor the Son of God, do not honor the Father. Recognizing the Son of God as the Mediator between yahweh and man, as a man, reveals the Father’s plan and purpose to objectively reveal the personification of Himself through His Son.


The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. – John 5:22


For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus – 1 Timothy 2:5


Yahshua, the Son of God is a human who operates under the authority of the Father as an objective representation, or “image” of the Father.


But these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name. – John 20:31


The amazing thing about Yahshua is that he is a man who accomplished the will of the Father by being submissive and humble servant, which was the only way he could accomplish His mission. He is the example for us to follow by what He did on earth so we can too can follow in His footsteps and inherit the throne with Him.


But now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. – John 8:40


“To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in His throne– Revelation 3:21


Yahshua's Unique Purpose


Yahshua had to be a man to purchase our salvation. He was one of us so that he could fulfill God’s plan for the rest of us. He was unique because he was begotten of a virgin, just like Adam was created from the dust of the earth. He said that God was His Father, even Adam was also a son of God.


The son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God. – Luke 38:3


Yahshua had a unique calling to lay down His life for fellow man and in His victory will be King of kings and Lord of lords as the representation of the Father in His Kingdom.


So Jesus said to them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me. – John 8:28


And Jesus increased in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and man. – Luke 2:52


The leader that the Father has placed over us is one of us. Yahweh gave Him glory and honor because he humbled himself unto death and then he was raised victoriously to sit at the right hand (authority) of God until the time the Father sends him to come again for His ekklesia to be raised from corruptible to incorruptible to rule and reign in the Kingdom of God.


But we see him who for a little while was made lower than the angels, namely Jesus, crowned with glory and honor because of the suffering of death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. – Hebrews 10:9


He was given glory and honor because He tasted death for everyone.


What is man that you are mindful of him, and the son of man that you care for him? Yet you have made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor. You have given him dominion over the works of your hands; you have put all things under his feet. – Psalm 8:4-6


These verses speak to humanity, but moving all the way to Hebrews in the New Testament scripture expands and testifies to the founder of our salvation.


For it was not to angels that God subjected the world to come, of which we are speaking. It has been testified somewhere,

“What is man, that you are mindful of him,
or the son of man, that you care for him?
You made him for a little while lower than the angels;
you have crowned him with glory and honor,
putting everything in subjection under his feet.”

Now in putting everything in subjection to him, he left nothing outside his control. At present, we do not yet see everything in subjection to him. But we see him who for a little while was made lower than the angels, namely Jesus, crowned with glory and honor because of the suffering of death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. – Hebrews 2:5-9


Yahshua was made just like the rest of us were made. He is not Hercules, or a mythological demigod, but made just like we are, “lower than the angels.” Yahshua calls us brothers and sisters (brethren) because he is one of us. He suffered just like any other human would.


For it was fitting that he, for whom and by whom all things exist, in bringing many sons to glory, should make the founder of their salvation perfect through suffering. For he who sanctifies and those who are sanctified all have one source. That is why he is not ashamed to call them brothers – Hebrews 2:10-11


Yahshua was the first man to be raised (first fruits) as a man and all those who believe in Him will do the same.


For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. – 1 Corinthians 15:22-23


The first Adam (man) was a living being just as the last Adam (Yahshua Messiah) is also a living being becoming a life giving spirit.


Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. – 1 Corinthians 15:45


For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. – Romans 5:15


Just as one man was disobedient, there is another man Yahshua Messiah who was obedient to the Father bringing justification to humanity so that anyone in faith who believes in him can become righteous before Yahweh through Him.


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Che Rogers 2 years ago from Los Angeles, CA

This is just some information I have come across but when studying the history of the bible one must go to the origins of the scriptures. Judaism, Christianity and Islam have all found its roots in ancient Egypt (africa). The stories of the flood, creation and messiah or savior is found thousands of years before the bible was ever compiled together by Constantine and the council of nicea. With this being said the story of this messiah that has been told in many different version depicted the savior as a demi god or hybrid. Most of this theory can be found in Genesis 6:1-9 and also the dead sea scrolls in the book of jasher and the book of enoch. Angels (sons of god) came down and procreated with the mankind (daughters of men) creating "giants" in the earth. This was a common theme in most modern and ancient religions. So the concept of a supernatural being only being all man is contrary to pretty much most of the known religions out there. Just a thought.


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lifegate 2 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

Thanks for my morning Bible study.


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flpalermo 2 years ago

Che Rogers: Wisdom is justified by her children.


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

Aaron -

You said:

"The purpose of this article is to encourage truth seekers to weigh and test the English words of their Bibles with the original languages that God inspired in His Word and find patterns with Scripture interpreting Scripture to bring forth evidences of consistency."

It should also encourage truth seekers to "weigh and test" the translation they use to make sure that the "words" themselves are original.


graceinus 2 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

PandN- Another great article.

God Bless


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flpalermo 2 years ago

Good.


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Che Rogers 2 years ago from Los Angeles, CA

Flpalermo: in order to begin to understand wisdom one must go to the source of it. All of the world's knowledge and wisdom stem from kemet/kush. This is where most of the modern day bible was taken from. One cannot understand the bible without understanding the customs and culture of those who wrote it (africans). Not the ones who stole it and then put their version of it together (greeks) and called it gods word. Before the Greeks ever existed or had a civilization the metu neter was being taught in kemet (egypt). The stories of the flood and creation were being taught long before Moses was born. This would mean Moses who was a high priest/prince was learning this wisdom in egypt for 80 years. In fact the 42 negative confessions of Maat existed 2000 years before Moses was born and it was identical to the 10 commandments except it had 32 extra commandments. If Moses didn't know about the law of murder why would he run after killing an egyptian? These are all things many don't question because they are told not to by their religious leaders. They deem anything african pagan worship yet the world's religions stem from kemet the same culture they deem pagan.


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flpalermo 2 years ago

Che Rogers: I don't know what to say.


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Che Rogers 2 years ago from Los Angeles, CA

I wasn't trying to provoke a response more so provoke thought. If you don't agree with my take on it, study the roots of the bible for yourself. It's very interesting and thought provoking. If there is ever a meeting between you and God at the end of your life and god asks you what did you do for me and you say I just blindly followed what everyone else told me was real this won't be an acceptable answer. One must seek the four corners of the world in knowledge and wisdom to get a holistic view of who God is and what their purpose was in creating us and the world. Only seeking it from one source that came aions after the source is like the game of telephone. After the 12th person the entire message is different from the original.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Che Rogers,

If I were to accept traditional Egyptian chronology, then I would have to reject Biblical truth. The evidence from a biblical framework makes the histories of Egypt and the Old Testament fit together. Traditional Egyptian chronology disputes the Hebrews as recorded in the Bible as well as secular data from neighboring nations and other non-biblical sources. On the assumption that traditional Egyptology chronology is "true," it is used to attack the Bible as unreliable.

The reason for the Flood was God was stopping the Nephilim (B’nai Ha Elohim) from tainting the genetic bloodline of the whole human race. Satan knew that Jesus Christ had to be born as a human from an untainted bloodline, not from a mixed hybrid race that could not be redeemed. The Nephilim were all over the ancient Middle East attacking God’s people and creating wicked spiritual practices to lure humanity in worshiping Satan and his angels.

“But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD. These [are] the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man [and] perfect in his generations, [and] Noah walked with God.” Gen 6:8-9

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; he shall break thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. - Genesis 3:15

The Lord told Satan in this verse that the seed of a woman will eventually crush him; therefore, his purpose was to destroy the lineage of that seed (Jesus Christ) that would be born of a woman.

Satan was seeking to stop God's plan by having fallen angels take women for themselves and have children with them. This was a deviant plan to ruin the lineage of the coming Messiah.

The Flood did not get rid of sin, but purged the wicked agenda of Satan to stop the purpose of the coming Messiah, the man Jesus Christ.

Thank-you for your thoughts.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Lifegate,

You are welcome.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Neil,

I agree, there have been corrupt words that have been put in the English translations of the Bible. The word "church" is a good example. Thanks for the additional advice.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Graceinus,

I appreciate the kind words.


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Che Rogers 2 years ago from Los Angeles, CA

Don't get me wrong i think there are some good teachings in the new testament and all shouldn't be decredited but you also have to rightly divide the word with the right mindset knowing it's history and authors. Most of the new testament wasn't even written by those whose names are on the books. They were written 70 to 300 years after they died by supposed followers. Which explains why each gospel has different accounts of jesus (yeshuas) life. If God is the author why do they get simple things confused as to how many men were at the tomb. One book says it was two men, one books says one angel. There are so many in inconsistencies in the gospels even faith can't hide that someone was inaccurate. The idea of hell or gehenna was introduced in the new testament which is contrary to the old testament. The old testament never spoke of a place of eternal damnation yet the greeks added it in the canon. Old testament only spoke of sheol which was a grave where the good and bad went. A waiting place.

I'm not trying to win you over to my point of view but just want you to stretch your mind and think outside of the religious box. I grew up in church so I'm well aware of Christian teachings. The reason why many younger generations are leaving churches is because they can't really be tricked into believing things anymore with truth at our fingertips. The Internet is a powerful way to pass information true and false info. I've actively taken the last 6 years to research a lot of what I'm telling you. I went back to the source of all religions and wisdom and that is ancient kush/kemet.

The secret societies know the power egypt and ethiopia left behind and they use their symbology and knowledge to improperly control the world. They give us the watered down versions of religions to keep us conformed and also to segregate us in arguing over religion and politics. Which to me go hand in hand. I encourage you to truly study the history of the bible and christianity.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Che Rogers,

It seems that you have a lot on your mind that goes well beyond the scope of this article. If I were to take your statements by a case by case basis, we would be going back and forth quite a long time. I will agree with you that studying the history of the Bible and Christianity is important. That is something that I will endeavor to do.

I will get back to my first comment and say that I believe in a different chronology than you do. The book of Proverbs contains sayings originating from Solomon, while others will argue that Solomon borrowed from Egyptian sources. I believe the borrowing was not from Egyptian to Hebrew, but rather from Hebrew to Egyptian.

For example, the Instructions of Amenhotep, which you are probably aware of is a papyrus with writing in it that is similar to the book of Proverbs. Egypt and Israel had a friendly relationship during the reign of Solomon. I believe the Hebrew text and Solomon's wisdom directly influenced the Egyptian papyrus, not the other way around.


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flpalermo 2 years ago

Che Rogers: I have been tracking the above dialogue with the above Hubbers for some time and I can see that you have absolutely no faith (believe) in God Himself, since you have not quoted Him to support any of your allegations. Knowledge of men who opinion on the Bible means nothing if you don't believe God himself. Knowledge is not a sign of conversion.


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flpalermo 2 years ago

My friend Che Rogers: Fantastic story, but not a shred of evidence or Scripture to support your points.

I did a family trace of the sons of HAM, (Genesis 9, 10) to see where his descendants migrated to after the flood: “Ham, Canaan, Sidon, Heth, Jebusites, Amonites, Girgasite, Hivite, Arkite, Sinite, Arvadite, Zemarite, Hamathite, These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.”

Genesis 10:19 And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.

Not a single one of these cities is in Egypt, which Capital was Memphis.


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

I thought the same about Noah being the one doing the "cursing."

In reading your comments, I also find is problematic that the New Testament was assembled under the direction of Constantine. History indicates, by his fruits and actions, that he wasn't a true committed follower of Christ.

I agree that as a follower of Christ, I should use everything at my disposal to make sure I am not being deceived. This includes study of the translations of scripture and history.

I'm not sure of your objective or point in the matter of related "stories" through history that seem similar to some in the scriptures, (Both Old and N.T.) or in the fact that what we now call "Africa," is where mankind seemed to have its origin, or that distant generations gained "knowledge or education" from a former people or geographic location?

My family has been in America since before the Revolutionary War and I have traced them back as far as Yorkshire, England, where they lived for many generations. But I have no evidence of my family (My people) any further back than that.

My point in this i; since God created man, man has moved from place to place, gaining knowledge and transferring that knowledge from generation to generation. Because I believe in creation as depicted in Genesis of the Hebrew bible, I have a finite regression of generations - including all their acquired knowledge. That being the case, every generation and culture since Adam is a part of God's plan of redemption for mankind through His only begotten Son - Jesus.

I appreciate your input into the conversation, so I would like to ask you if you believe Jesus (Or however you feel comfortable spelling or saying His name) is the Christ, the Son of God who was sent to redeem all mankind of their sins, and that He is, as He stated He is, "the way, the truth and the life, and that no one comes to the Father except through Him?"

Blessings

Neil


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

Che Rogers -

I appreciate your response.

You "assume" many things with regard to your "beliefs."

You assume that because an ancient culture had certain beliefs and stories that another culture in the future that has similar beliefs and stories got those stories and beliefs from the "older" culture. That is highly flawed logic and reasoning. You need to think that over a bit before using that reasoning and logic to support you beliefs or claims.

The Apostle Paul stated clearly in Romans 1 that "creation" itself reveals that there is a God. So I have no problem believing that any culture can come up with beliefs and stories similar to those found in the Bible.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

Many of the ancient peoples you speak of worshiped what Paul called, "the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures." This does not discount that these cultured didn't pass-on knowledge, it just means, as Paul understood it, that with regard to any knowledge of a god, one must be careful the god you choose to trust and believe in for your salvation is in fact the one true God of all creation.

As far as your philosophy that as long as one leads a "good" life they will be OK in the after-life, that poses another tricky circumstance with your logic and reasoning. Just how good is good enough? That's really not a very comforting way to live your life. And it makes YOU the ultimate judge, if you want a clear conscience, of whether you are worthy in the afterlife. Personally, I don't need that kind of stress and pressure in my life.

I appreciate your obvious intellect in the history of man and even the Bible, however, your choice to believe in a god and savior of your own intellectual design will always leave you wanting, and making conversation and having debate over something you really can't wrap your intellect around because you do not have the spiritual discernment that comes only through trust and faith in the one true God through accepting his Son Jesus as your personal Lord and savior.

Blessings


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

You did not answer my question if you believe Jesus is the messiah as prophesied in the Old Testament?

He fulfilled dozens of prophesies to the letter, he was born of a virgin, he performed many miracles, he healed the lame and brought a man back to life, he was crucified, buried, and rose to life after three days and presented Himself to hundreds of people before He ascended to heaven.

His life, death and resurrection is corroborated by more evidence than any historic event in the history of man.

And you are concerned that I am not aware that there are similarities in the Hebrew culture with Egypt? You seem bitter that somehow the Hebrews and Greeks stole knowledge from the Egypt culture and must own-up to that crime and maybe pay restitution or something. Regardless of where the "knowledge" originated, both the Old and NT have great historical evidence to support their validity.

In case you weren't aware, almost every culture in the world has laws similar to the 10 commandments. Those laws are written on the conscience of every living soul since God made Adam. Do not kill, do not steal, do not covet, honor your parents... all of these obvious moral laws were also held by the American Indians of every tribe. Go figure? I'm sure you can explain how they were passed down from Egypt as well.

Seriously, do YOU believe that Jesus is the Son of the one true God and is the only way to salvation and eternal life and do YOU accept Him as YOUR personal Lord and savior?

That's the question you need to answer my friend.

C. S. Lewis put it this way:

“I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic — on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.”


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

Your logic, reasoning and much of your historic and philosophical assertions are wrong. I don't desire to argue them further as you are obviously sealed in your beliefs.

I am sad that you deny Christ as God's only begotten Son - the way, the truth and the life, and that there is no other way of redemption and salvation but through Him.

If you left Christianity after many years and our father is, as you say, a Christian pastor, I'm sure if he couldn't help lead you home through the deceptions of the prince of this world that have you deceived, there is probably nothing anyone commenting on this hub can do to convince you otherwise.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Here is an interesting link to a book for reader perusal that challenges the Afrocentric beliefs.

https://ia600505.us.archive.org/1/items/Not-Out-Of...


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

Aaron - Reading the book now. It answers many questions about Mr. Che Rogers. It seems if he would take his own advice and research the truth of history he would be singing a much different tune. Unfortunately, people like Mr. Rogers are to invested in their beliefs to make an objective effort to validate those beliefs with facts. Afrocentrism followers are on par with Mormons - it's more a cult than anything else.


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

Che Rogers -

Sorry, no racism here! It's about "real" history, not politically correct revisionist history.

As for Dr. Jochannan; he is an extreme Afrocentrist author that claims Greeks stole their civilization from Africa, when the facts show it was probably the other way around, that Aristotle robbed the library of Alexandria, when Aristotle was dead before the library was ever built, that Jews are Africans like himself, when there is no basis to that argument, and the his "Zeus" argument about the name of Jesus (The "S" was added to Jesus' name in Greek to make it masculine - if you are truly interested) has been debunked as have most all of your other "Afrocentric history" arguments.

Sorry my friend, history happens to be history regardless of how it makes you feel about yourself, your nationality, or your race.

You can sell the myth of Afrocentrism somewhere else, no one's buying it here.

And PLEASE stop "race-baiting" this HUB's readers with your baseless arguments.

I suggest you read the book this HUB author provided a link to. There are also many more studies on Afrocentrism that show the same conclusions.


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

WARNING -

After doing some research on the commenter Che Rogers, it is evident that he is what the blog community referrers to as a "Troll."

He commonly injects race into his comments in an attempt to impugn others (non-black) who disagree with any of his beliefs as racists. He does this on many different blogs and posts that have a "Christian" theme.

Mr. Che Rogers is a race bating troll, who attempts to perpetuate the myth of Afrocentrism among the community of Christians bloggers and their readers.

By Mr. Rogers' admission, he is NOT a follower of Christ, in fact, he admits that he once was a believer, but has chosen to reject Christ. I believe his comments do nothing to further any insight or discourse on the topics presented on this HUB.

Therefore, my advise to all, who respectfully choose to comment on this HUB and its posts, is to ignore any further comments by Mr. Rogers from this point forward.

In the words of Jesus:

“Do NOT give what is holy to dogs, and do NOT throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."

Mr. Rogers is an admitted unbeliever who openly rejects Jesus as his savior, so I have not problem posting these words of Jesus because they apply both to Mr. Rogers himself, and this specific circumstance.

FYI - I watched the "debate" - if you could call it that - that Mr. Rogers' gave a link to. His Afrocentric heroes are nothing more than race-baiters like himself. You need only to listen to the opening remarks of Dr. John Clark to verify that fact. You can tell by this mans words and demeanor that he exudes hate for white people - especially ones that call him out on his mythical doctrine of Afrocentrism. This was NOT a debate, it was a political event set up to demean Dr. Mary Lefkowitx and her book "Not out of Africa," which was newly published and exposed the prominent claims of Afrocentrics like Clark. From the moderator to the format and the entire audience, it was a pro-Afrocentrism rally.


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lifegate 2 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

Sorry PandN,

I really don't like the way hubs get highjacked on HP. In the past 20 minutes I wasted looking over these comments approximately 3,400 have died and gone to hell. The devil will use whatever he can to get us off track (he got me for 20 minutes).

While we so proudly claim our superior knowledge and "wisdom", Jesus simply said, ""For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost." Then He added, ". . . as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you."

The reason I said the hub was highjacked is because almost the whole conversation has nothing to do with what you have written. Your topic really has become a side issue, if it exists at all any more. It seems that everyone has missed your point, or perhaps forgotten it.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Lifegate,

I agree the comments of this article have been sidetracked to the theme. Che Rogers with his endless Afrocentric proselytizing has now been moderated. I will keep some of the commentary discussion for the purpose for those who are not aware of this delusional belief system. I hope you didn't feel that it was a complete waste, but perhaps more a learning experience to the depths some people go to force an ideology on others. I am usually more graceful in allowing most comments with the purpose, along with others, to contend for the faith.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Neil,

Thanks for addressing Che Rogers, and I agree with your assessment of this man. Unfortunately, the followers of this ideology have gone down the rabbit hole of pseudo-history. Any attack to his belief was always deflected by saying,"you still didn't understand." That is the whole problem, nobody can really understand something that has no authoritative standard. It is a twisted reality to serve the Afrocentric agenda. That is why when there is any disagreement the race card is played.


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lifegate 2 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

PandN,

Please don't misunderstand. Your article wasn't a waste. Nor was the discussion in general. I just don't think it's appropriate for others to take over a hub especially when it has nothing to do with the original topic. I think it would have been better for this hubber to write their own hub on the topic they choose. I certainly appreciate the opportunity to learn form others in whatever that capacity might be, but I felt the "seeking for knowledge" was lost in his pride and arrogance. Anyway - great hub!


graceinus 2 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

PandN- I am glad to see you deleted all the rubbish (including mine). I like to echo the words of Lifegate by saying ; great hub.


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

Aaron - Back to the subject.

I read an argument that if Jesus was, in fact, any part "God," it would negate his life without sin. Specifically because it wouldn't be much of a task for "God" to go without sin - even in human form. Temptations would carry no weight, as scripture says God can't be tempted. So their conclusion was that Jesus was no more "God" than any human ever born. They argued that the only difference was that Jesus' not having a human father, broke the chain of original sin. Thoughts?


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Neil,

Adam and Eve didn't have a human father either. They were both created without "original sin." It would seem that temptation does not necessitate being part of the "chain of original sin."


Neil Braithwaite 2 years ago

Aaron -

The "original sin" isn't an issue for me, I was just giving it as context of their argument.

In any case, having it pounded in my head for over 50 years that Jesus was fully man AND fully God naturally has a lingering effect on conscience.

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