What If I Were Not I or You Were Not You?

"Almond Branches In Bloom- San Remy" - 1890 - Vincent Van Gogh
"Almond Branches In Bloom- San Remy" - 1890 - Vincent Van Gogh

This is just a thought. It's not poetry nor is it prose. It's just thinking out loud.

It came over me this morning.

Thinking what would have happened to my soul if it hadn't been born into this body? What if Mother had foregone marriage in order to pursue her art?

What if Dad had tried to fall in love with the one his mother picked for him instead of Mother?

What if they hadn't - er - slipped up ten years after they thought they'd finished having children with the three they already had when I surprised them ?

Where WOULD this soul and personality called Nellieanna have gone? Would it have been reassigned? OR would it have missed its only chance? Was I a menopause "accident" because the powers that be discovered that there were more serious kinks in me needing more work than they first thought?

It's puzzling. Yes, very puzzling when I stop to wonder about it.

Tell me, have you ever considered it in your own case? Would you ever consider it or am I just weird?

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breakfastpop 6 years ago

I have considered it and no, you aren't weird you're just very thoughtful and talented.

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Jai Warren 6 years ago from Dallas, Deep Ellum, Texas

What about the concept of a "perpetual soul" that travels from one existence to the next? I believe the Universe or the Powers that be, don't create accidents. We're where we're at for a reason. Nellieanna, nothing weird about it... No matter the circumstance, we just have to make the best of "this" opportunity. Ciao!!!

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Aw - Thank you, breakfastpop. That is a really nice reassurance! It was an interesting thought!

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Jai - yes - a "perpetual soul" makes some sense, especially if life on this plane may be for "upgrading" and it may take more than one life.

I don't believe there are Universal accidents but in a human connotation there may seem to be. A concept of "free will" necessitates that there would be more than one possible outcome, at least on this plane. To me, though, "consistency" is not required and more than one truth is possible, though to human conceptualization, things may seem to be or to have to be "either/or". We know so little, though.

My thought here was not about the long-term soul though. It really had to do with its being associated with this consciousness in this life, which by nature "feels" like the true identity of every part of oneself - including one's soul. It doesn't FEEL like a "traveling" part. But perhaps that just points up the myopia of this life. It's the extent of what we know, anyway . So it prompted me to wonder "what if. . . ." - since in this life there ARE so many uncertainties.

My actual faith can be said in 4 words, though: There is no problem. That's because I feel sure that what is to be, will be. So - what's to fear?

Thanks for the very good thoughtful comments!!

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neeleshkulkarni 6 years ago from new delhi

life exists at two levels- one is the level of the soul- the level where nothing is born and nothing is destroyed, this existence is cyclical, our physical existence is linear.since the soul cannot be born or destroyed and since the karma accumulated by you decides when and where u would be born and this was preordained .The errrrrr slip in this scheme of things was TO BE anyway.Maybe somewher along the line the good LORD had deputed someone to make sure they errrrrr slipped.

at another level what was to be was to be and did become and so and it could not have been anything else.

however if you had been someone else you would have still ahd the same question--- ohh what if i was Nellieanna??????

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Minnetonka Twin 6 years ago from Minnesota

Nellieanna-No you are not wierd and I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks about such things. I remember lying in bed as a kid, crying to God and telling him that if we do come back, I want the same family. I would be bawling my head off. Now that is Wierd!

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christopheranton 6 years ago from Gillingham Kent. United Kingdom

Nellieanna. It is part of our enquiring nature, which we were given by God, that we should speculate about these things, so you are not weird. But the important thing is how we conduct ourselves "in the now", and then we can find out the ultimate answers in the future.

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Mentalist acer 6 years ago from A Voice in your Mind!

I was born in the year before the introduction of the pill,haha;)

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Hello, hello, 6 years ago from London, UK

I think we all consider what if and it is human nature that we wonder about what if. It is normal.

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Neelesh - Thtat's an amazingly clear and satisfying explanation. I tend to think it is probably so, though at the bottom of my thinking is a principle similar to Socrates' "All I know is that I know nothing" - which leads me to simply believe that what it IS, is what it is and this IS-ness is not dependent on whether I know it or ever will, but possibly - vice versa.

But your cyclical and linear model makes sense; and whatever "soul" IS would almost have to be indestructible. But, then, yes, "BEING" -or consciousness does seem an anomaly in a big picture. Yet it's probably what makes humans, human; our "biggie" is our consciousness, so handy to apply to wondering about things and to try to figure out what is beyond our KNOWING for a fact, and we do LOVE to claim KNOWING. So often we just declare what we THINK as being what it IS, and we have almost as many explanations as there are people - even within the large variety of formal beliefs.

Only thing about the inevitability that I'd have thought it no matter who I'd been born as is that if I had slept late yesterday when I had the question, even being the Nellieanna I am this time around, I might not have had it in this life, or at least not in that specific a way! Or I might not have thought about it long enough to mention. Or I might not have had anyone I could have mentioned it to! Every moment of one's life has so many choices and possibilities, and many of those lead to the different thoughts one has. So no exact thought is inevitable, I suspect.

Now if you were Nellieanna - - hehe - well, perhaps you'd do a better job of it!! haha. What an intriguing thought~~!

Thank you for a most enlightening and excellent reply.

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Oh Twin! You're se cute. You had a lovely family, that's obvious. How nice it must have been to be a twin and have a partner in everything. It must have been like having validation for who you were. Being so much the youngest among several older siblings, as I was, gave me a lot of ambivalence.

Kids have many strange moments before getting settled in their beings, don't they? And yet - personality is so THERE and REAL. I remember always being sort of uncertain about my own BEING, even though at the same time, I was really a very definite little person, though I didn't realize it. I overheard Daddy telling Mother "She's a very determined little girl." I was barely 4. And those words have seen me through some trying times.. But my ambivalence about who I was and whether I had a right to BE and to be different from my older siblings (including being a lot less mature at any given time) continued for many years and seemed to be earned out of great trial. They tended to view my natural state as being stuck in time, of course - always younger than they, so in their minds I was a sweet, limited child, even in my maturity. They never learned to SEE or know me. I'm sorry about that. One thing about having to struggle for one's own sense of BEING,though, is that it is finally quite stable and not easily flapped since it's had had to learn it without a lot of validation. hehe

This was a most valuable aspect of the question! Thank you.

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

YES! christopheranton. I think that is IT. We will wonder all our lives, most likely - but we will know only if and when we go on to another level in the future. "For now we see darkly; then, face to face." I suppose that what we find then may be very surprising to everyone!!

You always contribute really good comments! And I appreciate that you take my measly ideas seriously! Thank you.

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Mentalist - well - There was no birth control other than abstinence when I was born. Of course the "natural rhythm" existed but it hadn't been recognized and put to "use".

I strongly suspect, though, that my birth was not an accident. There is a story about that which will probably be in my memoirs. hehe Thanks for a good reply, as I've come to expect from you!

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Hello, hello. Whew. Thank you for reassuring that it's normal, not weird. ;-)

I seem frequently to think about a some odd possibilities, though. Probably it's because I have a somewhat open mind and allow it to probe. Fortunately, I am also anchored and know that I don't "know" - so I can handle being in limbo about those things I don't know and which may not be knowable.

I can always use reassurance, though - so thank you for some very good reassurance!

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Ingenira 6 years ago

No, you are not weird. You are a thinker, and you just like to let your imagination go wild sometimes. I do that often too, I get scolded for thinking silly or thinking too deep or too much. But I enjoyed it and nobody can stop me from doing that. :)

Teri  6 years ago

I understand your thoughts but more so regarding the birth of my second daughter...she is a blessed suprise that snuck into this reality just in the nick of time. I had given birth only two months prior to my lovely first daughter and after having an adventurous delivery...my husband more so decided to get "snipped"...four days after his procedure I found out I was pregnant with Bellamy...and the rest is history in the making...she is a joyful lil' soul that has much to teach us all...believe me everyday is a wonderful learning experience with both of my great children...so glad you "snuck" in here too!

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Ingenira - ah - so glad to be in good company! I've heard "You think too much" and I'm, like - "what? What is too much anyway?" I don't TRY to think and couldn't try to not think! It comes to mind. And I am truly thankful for it, now that I'm nearing my 80s and look around and see folks much younger with minds going - away. I say "use it or lose it" applies to minds as well as bodies. Of course no one can stop us from thinking! Thank goodness for that!!

Hugs - and thanks!

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Teri - Thank you! I'm so happy for you getting Bellamy! And - if I understand the chronology - how wonderful for her that she has a slightly older sister with whom to grow up! Glad she snuck in too.

You know, my mother called me her "nest egg" and Daddy looked at me, she told me, and said "well, I may as well spend my money on her." LOL. It was during the Great Depression, so I'm sure that was a very meaningful comment. He was a conservative man but he was always generous with me (possibly a source of annoyance for the elder three siblings. heh heh)

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50 Caliber 6 years ago from Arizona

Nellieanna, this brings me to, "Along the Way I'll wonder, in the end I'll know". Not weird, just human, peace and love 50

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Great line and proverb, Dusty! Thank you for that! Hugs.

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always exploring 6 years ago from Southern Illinois

No, you are not weird. One does wonder many what if,s. Many times iv'e felt that i was here before, makes me believe in reincarnation. Wow! I love 50,s comment and i love your thought process.


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drbj 6 years ago from south Florida

Of course, you're weird, nellieanna, we're all weird. That's the special quality that makes each one of us unique. Whether you call it different, special, one of a kind or weird.

Although, in my lifetime I have met some folks who are weirder than others! :)

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Always Exploring. Thanks! Yes, we wonder and especially "what if", I suppose. Everything seems subject almost to whims at times. But, to me, that is the special characteristic and beauty of this present life. It's fluid. It's not "according to script". And there is usually another chance to get it right or better.

Yes- 50's comment is especially good. We don't have to know it all now. Not that it's a choice - we are stuck with more questions than answers - if we are honest; but it's nice to think we are OK not knowing all the answers.

Thanks for a lovely comment!

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

OH, YES - drbj. Exactly. Whatever label we give to being individual, we R all one!

I wouldn't have it any other way, frankly. Like you, I've met some who are more - ahem - extremely - er- individual than others over the years. But I sort of like that too!

Thanks for making me laugh & feel good!

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

OH, YES - drbj. Exactly. Whatever label we give to being individual, we R all one!

I wouldn't have it any other way, frankly. Like you, I've met some who are more - ahem - extremely - er- individual/weird than others over the years. But I sort of like that too!

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Merlin Fraser 6 years ago from Cotswold Hills

What a great and stimulating thought and I also enjoyed reading the response it created.

As you know I love to hear the inner thoughts as to why people think or believe there has to be a logical reason for our existence and that somehow there is something else to come. I suppose given the complexity of human nature and the power of our minds we have to create such unanswerable questions. I believe it’s what stimulates us to get up in the mornings and drives us to do the things we do.

A life is a terrible thing to waste and we owe it ourselves to be the best we can be in all things. As you know I neither believe in God or an afterlife and I require neither of these things to stimulate or drive me forward to do what I hope to be the right thing, however I can well understand why others may feel the need for such things. It is difficult to ask yourself, “Is this all there is ?” Then to understand and appreciate it when the answer dawns that perhaps it is !

We all seek answers and knowledge, or at least we should , and this should continue right up to the end, but we must not dwell upon the imponderable to the exclusion of actually living our life. Nor should we blindly accept and be content with the thoughts and words of others, although yet again I can understand why many are happy to accept the words of the various religious organisations. Doesn’t matter that it may all be an un-provable lie... it’s a nice lie and one that brings comfort to those who dare not ask questions for which they are unprepared to hear what the answer maybe.

So keep thinking and asking such questions it’s not weird it’s healthy and shows and truly active mind.

Be it by divine design or happy biological accident I for one am happy that you are you and that you do what you do.

As for me I am extremely content in who I am but there again I think you already knew that.

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK

What a happy menopause accident you are :-)

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Thank you for the wise and thoughtful response, Merlin. Yes, I'm aware of your position and I respect it. I don't love labels, but if I have one it has to be agnostic, because I don't KNOW that there is or is not something more. Like you, I know that here and now is the opportunity to do the best I can and contribute and build, rather than to "use" and tear down. And like believers, I sense there is more, that it's not all just a big accident. But that is faith, and I claim mine by not attempting to take it to the "this is IT and no other is it" level.

There are good things about formal beliefs, so long as they don't war amongst themselves and try to shift responsibility from the individual and make that an article of faith, though if that turns out to be the unknown I know I don''t know - then so be it. If anything, though, it would appear to be a twisting of what those messages intended so people could exercise their weaknesses without expecting consequences. Unfortunately the consequences may play out on others.

Anyway - I have no quarrel with anyone's belief and am glad when it produces better people and lives.

I'm glad you are who you are too! Thanks again for the read and comments!

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Dimitris, you sweetie!! Thank you! :-)

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katiem2 6 years ago from I'm outta here

Really exciting thought, and this is what I think; I think your such an amazing and gifted talent that there has been a plan in the works for you to be for a long while and when plan A did not happen the great design for you came up with a plan B and on and on until here you are as there is no giving up on a perfect and amazing plan! Love and Peace :)

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tonymac04 6 years ago from South Africa

You are no weirder than the rest of us weirdos! I think we humans are born to question, to search for the reasons behind things and the depths below the surface.

I only learnt after my mother's death in 1987 that she had had two miscarriages between the birth of my brother and my birth seven years (almost to the day!) later. Now there's a source of questioning - what if one of those babies had survived, would my parents have gone on to have another baby (me)? Unanswerable question, but interesting speculation. And that is all it can be, I think - speculation. I have no expectation of ever finding an answer to this question. But it still is there for me.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts here.

Love and peace


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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

That's so comforting, Tony! Being in good company, call us weirdos or enlightened, is, after all, mere semantics! ;-)

How interesting that you've also thought about realistic possibilities that your birth might not have occurred. Of course it's total conjecture, since both of us WERE born, which far outweighs the other possibilities - but, still, that's the nature of "what if?", isn't it? But in reality, no other answer is really needed except that "what if" simply wasn't and what IS, was.

Perhaps it's the value of being able to ask the unanswerable and to ponder the imponderable, making us so human! In a way, it IS answered by the facts as they are. There is considerable comfort in that, too! We crave security when perhaps what we have IS a kind of security in that things turn out as they are.


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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Katie - lovely! And spoken like a really good planner! I have to agree, too. Whatever plans the Universe makes would surely be covered for eventualities with alternate plans. And you put it in such a complimentary way! The same can be said for you! Thank you, sweet person!

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Mairdre 6 years ago

Smile... sometimes I think if my mother had not had me I would not have had my daughter and that while I was pregnant and carrying her I was also carrying her eggs and if she has a child I will have also carried that child and so on and so on and so on...and sometimes although I rarely admit this, I even wonder if I had married another would she have still come to me. Is our destiny and purpose together that strong? Where would she be and how would she have come? Exactly like you say, Nellieanna - where indeed. I love this post., :)

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

How amazing, Mairdre - that I've thought about the egg longevity thing so often. My mother was born in 1892, & I was born when she was 40, so technically I carried gametes from her that would now be 118 years old if still viable. Maybe this is one reason why women's life of fertility is limited while men's is not, and yet while ours is viable, it has this amazing continuous-life to it. Ingenious set-up.

It's indeed food for thought, but a strong case for, not what might have been, but for what IS.

So pleased that you visited the post!

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saddlerider1 6 years ago

Of course your weird and your most definitely not alone. All talented people are weird, I am proud to be signaled out as weird from some of my peers. It makes my life very interesting at times:0)as it does yours I'm certain of that. Your so cute, can I pinch your cheek:0)) he he

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

hahahaha, Ken. Thank you. Yeah, it makes for some interesting situations and conversations. And lots of raised eyebrows. hehe. Just pinch easy - sometimes the wrinkles stay in. hehe. You're cute yourself. Maybe goes with weirdness. :-)

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MartieCoetser 6 years ago from South Africa

I am sure there is no one on earth who does not ponder over this issue. An I am also sure we will never on this earth find the correct answer. Perhaps... maybe... we will still be here after our bodies finally dropped us. Maybe we keep on living in another dimension. Only God knows the answer. And He is full of surprises. Or perhaps we are indeed only breath and nothing without a body.

For a long time now I try not to ponder over this. It depresses me and bereaves me of the opportunity to enjoy the moment. So what if we just disappear? We have this life and the time to enjoy living and appreciating all the beauty and awesomeness on and above our planet, is very short. Much too short to seek non-existing answers for questions.

So Carpe Diem, my dearest friend. Go make yourself a nice cup of tea and TASTE those delicious herbs. Look at the sky and the clouds, the trees, whatever you see, and just enjoy it. Capture the moment.

I’ve read a wonderful book titled The Power of Now, written by Eckhart Tolle. I actually have it on a PDF file if you want me to send it to you.

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

HI, MARTIE! "The Power of Now" sounds like the kind of book I enjoy. I have read quite a few with that general train of thought. I'd be most appreciative if you sent it to me.

One of my favorites is "The Wisdom of Insecurity" by Alan Watts. It emphasizes that this life, by its nature, is full of uncertainties, but when we accept that, we are able to live in the now and enjoy what our life gives - or to improve things we may be doing to keep it from being all it can be.

My personal Philosophy is "There is no problem". It means that what IS, is, and can be trusted, whether or not "I" KNOW what it is. I think of it as the ultimate faith, wheres "beliefs" have chosen someTHING to believe IS, and then they must defend it against any other evidence and struggle to preserve it and win others to make it seem more certain & comforting. I feel comfort in trusting the truth, whatever it may be which I probably do not fully know now.

Anyway - yes, we will never KNOW the answers which are not part of our earthy experience. If we cease to exist once it is over, well - so what? Will we be around to pine for it or regret? I guess not. If we do graduate to another dimension and form, then it will provide its own "ability to respond" to that existence just as we have our ability to respond to this one (response-ability) if we use it at capacity.

My question was stirred and seemed fun to share. It IS part of our nature to wonder and to seek for whatever extent of understanding and enlightenment which we may have preceptors to know and for which we possibly may uncover answers. We shouldn't be frustrated if we find no further information. After all - what IS now IS the only necessary answer. We WERE born as we are and that's probably enough. Pondering what-if's is no more than appreciating the ACTUALITY all the more. if we fail to respond to NOW, why would we hope to be any better at responding to some "other" dimension which may or may not exist? But it is good to THINK and to arrive at that conclusion with conviction, I think. It feels good to be unafraid to think even knowing one's thinking scope has its limitations.

Thanks for your always thoughtful response, Martie. Hugs!

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MPG Narratives 6 years ago from Sydney, Australia

It's interesting that I read this hub when my kids and I were only discussing this topic recently. You know the question "Mum, why are we here?". We discussed the pros and cons of why we were born into the families we are in, why we have an Italian background but live in Australia, where would we be if our parents had not moved to Australia?

The discussion went on for hours in many different directions but in the end we were happy to be who we are.

Who knows the real reason why we are here but I do know that life is precious and we should make the best of what we are given. You certainly have with your talents Nellieanna, I'm pleased to 'know' you.

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

BJ! Hi! and welcome back! How good to see you posting a comment!! Yeah - I know how that it, after a move. I don't suppose that it needs to even be an issue whether or not we need pity when separated from our "things". It's certainly an emotional challenge, though.

Marie - OH - that is an amazing coincidence! And it does my heart good. Yes, the close of such thoughts or discussions should be a sense that who, where and how we are is good. And like people growing old sometimes say about growing older, "It's so much preferable to the alternative!" What IS has all the advantages! I prefer to think that it IS as it is because that's how it should be. As you say - then it's up to us what we do with our opportunities.

Thanks for a great comment!

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Nikkij504gurl 6 years ago from Louisiana

its a question that defintely rests on many of our wearisome minds, why things are the way they are, and what if this was different, how would things be then? but alast we will never know, so best to just accept things the way they are, or make the changes for the better, and live our lives as best we can.

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Nikki - very wise you are. Of course, it's not only our best choice but our only choice. What IS - is. The things we CAN do to improve, to make the best choices we can, of course, are within our scope. And if we misjudge, the next best is to make the best corrections in our course we can. We all must go through those things and it gets easier as we advance along.

But perhaps part of our lot is to wonder "what if" and maybe it makes us value the "what IS" that much more1

Thank you, dear gal, for the vista and your input - always so welcome here!

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JinnyMarte 6 years ago

Nellieanna! I love your pondering and your questioning...

I believe that at some point we all have had to question our existence and have wondered what if... But you know what? We are who we are and what we are for the simple reason that God have sent us to be...simply be...We all have a purpose and we all have a journey to complete...that's what this human experience is about...love , Jinny

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Great comment, Jinny! Yes I pondered my existence as a kid quite seriously. I suppose that is typical too. Mine seemed so unlikely, though! I know that we are who and what we are, first of all because it's what IS. If one trusts God, that means it's by the plan and it's difficult to not think it is.

I'm so pleased that you dropped by and added your sense of it!

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SilverGenes 6 years ago

Isn't it interesting how many of us have pondered these things? I tend to think there are no accidents and that the answers are right in front of us all the time. It's the 'seeing' that's tricky lol.

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Oh, how astute a thought! It is the seeing, and even the seeking, which are the tricky parts. Yes, humans of almost all ages and stages ponder our beginnings, I think. Perhaps to some it is too overwhelming or discouraging a quandary. Or too easy to find easy answers. . . .

I always welcome your perceptive comments. Thank you!

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Micky Dee 6 years ago

I have pondered this often! Who would I be - if at all? Thank you Nell!

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS Author

Ah yes, Micky. And it's that "if at all" which is really gripping! Thank YOU, Mick!

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Textured Ideas 5 years ago

A very deep and intriguing thought. It's bizarre and special to think how fortunate we are to be created and alive at this moment, considering all of the percentages against us that could have made us a completely different person or not even born at all. We are all so lucky to be alive and unique. As you say, imagine how different EVERYTHING could have been if things were only slightly different!

And no you aren't weird, you're wonderful =)

This reminds me of how people describe the conception of the universe, how apparently everything was just exactly the right conditions to create it or else there would be nothing. Life is just SO bizarre =)

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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS Author

haha - Thank you, Natalie! Maybe there needs be a term "wonderfully weird" or even '"weirdly wonderful". I think it IS about being unique. And you know what? There is almost no escaping it! Just accepting one's own uniqueness and liking it is what makes our 'luck' with it GOOD. It's sad that many folks struggle with that, and spin their wheels looking for something else to be, and sure enough, often bemoan their bad luck.

Yes, that things 'lined up' just right to produce THIS universe (whatever it is and to whatever unknown extent it may be) - is both bizarre and wonderful. However it is, - it is good. That's why my faith is just 4 little words: "There is no problem". How could there be? It's how and what it IS! wow. IS!!! What a concept! What a reality! And yet folks often spin their wheels trying to make IT be something else, too.

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