What Was The Forbidden Fruit? The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil And Its Fruit

An apple tree (Clarence River)
An apple tree (Clarence River) | Source

I have heard many theories on the fruit of The Tree of Knowledge. It seems that people are just dying to know just which fruit was forbidden by God. The forbidden fruit is mostly referred to as an apple but was it an apple? Where do people get their arguments about what they believe was the fruit of The Tree of Knowledge? And why are many so determined to learn just what this fruit was?

The Apple - The Forbidden Fruit?

By far, the apple is the fruit that is most commonly referred to as 'The Forbidden Fruit'. This probably came about, when, during the Renaissance, artists painted apples to represent the forbidden fruit. In Greek Mythology, the golden apple was the fruit of The Tree of Life which was in the garden of Hesperides. It is said that Renaissance painters adopted the apple to represent the fruit of The Tree of Knowledge because of this. But The fruit of The Tree of Life is totally different to the fruit of The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

It is very clear that in the Bible they were two very different trees. One gave knowledge of good and evil, while the other gave eternal life.

"And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil." Genesis 2:9 K.J.V.

So The Tree of Life and The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil were clearly two different trees. Also the fruit of The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was the only fruit Adam and Eve were forbidden from eating.

"And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Genesis 2:16-17 K.J.V.

Also, during that time of discovery, many different types of fruits were referred to as apples. It was a general name that people used for fruit. Do pineapples look like apples? Yet apple is in its name. Do star apples taste like apples? Yet apple is in its name as well.




The Pomegranate

I have also heard the theory that the pomegranate was the fruit of The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Since the word pomegranate means seeded apple, it makes sense that this fruit would also be thought to be the forbidden fruit.

I think that it is also believed to be the fruit in the Garden of Eden because of the significance of pomegranates in the Bible. Many times pomegranates were mentioned in the Bible. They were used in the decorations of the Temple of the Lord. Pomegranates were mentioned in The books of Exodus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, 1 Samuel, 1 Kings, 2 Kings, Chronicles, The Song of Solomon, Jeremiah, Joel and Haggai. Some people think because it is mentioned so often that it is an important fruit. They conclude that for it to be an important fruit it just may be the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

A fig on a fig tree.
A fig on a fig tree. | Source

The Fig

Because Adam and Eve sewed fig leaves together to cover themselves, the fig is sometimes believed to be the forbidden fruit.(See Genesis 3:7) The fig, being the only fruit tree that was mentioned by name that existed in the Garden of Eden also contributes to the belief that it was the fruit of The Tree.

Many also conclude that the fig is the forbidden fruit because Jesus cursed the fig tree and told it to die.

"And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away." Matthew 21:19 K.J.V.

They believe that since the fig is the only fruit that Jesus is recorded as cursing, perhaps this was the fruit that caused the curse to fall upon mankind.


Fruit Basket With Apples And Grapes by Claude Monet
Fruit Basket With Apples And Grapes by Claude Monet

The Grape

The idea that it was a grape that Eve ate and then gave to Adam, I must admit surprised me. I was told about this idea by someone who was thoroughly convinced it was true.

The grape is used to make wine and wine is indeed alcohol which causes men to sin,it was explained to me. The grape is also of the vine and since Nazarites take a vow not to eat anything of the vine surely this signifies something. It is also believed that the grape took another form after The Fall, just as the serpent did. But that could be argued about any of the other fruit mentioned before and indeed, the ones to come. The fact that Noah planted a vineyard and got drunk because of it is also one of the reasons why the grape is considered to be the forbidden fruit. It is pointed out that because Noah was, in effect, the first man again (since the flood destroyed all except Noah and his family), the sin was repeated. He ate the fruit and then his son looked upon him which was a sin. The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is also mentioned in The Book of Enoch. In it, it is described as looking like a Tamarind tree but that the fruit looked like a grape.

Other Fruits That Are Believed To Be The Forbidden Fruit:

  • Tomato
  • Pear
  • Quince
  • Citron
  • Carob

Wheat is believed by some to be the forbidden fruit even though it is a grain.

So why are people so determined to learn just what was the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge? Maybe they think that if they know they can somehow learn something from it. Perhaps they believe that in knowing, they will better understand themselves. Or maybe they just want to be all knowing like God is all knowing.

What Does The Bible Say About The Fruit Of The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil?


As usual, I like to go to the Bible to see just what it has to say about something. There are so many differing opinions on what the fruit could or could not be.

In studying I found out something that no one ever seems to mention when discussing the forbidden fruit.

In The Book of Genesis, the Bible speaks of The Tree of Knowledge and The Tree of Life. Both existed in the Garden that God created for Adam. There was only one Tree of Life and there was only one Tree of Knowledge so how could there be any descendants from that fruit that exists today? Behold, God put a guard so that The Tree of Life would not be eaten from. This guard protects the Garden from intruders. The same garden that holds the Tree of Knowledge.

"Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life." Genesis 3: 23-24 K.J.V.

I am convinced that none of the fruits mentioned above are of The Tree of Knowledge. All it took was one taste by Adam and Eve and then the way was shut so that the Tree of Life would not be eaten by man.The Garden has been guarded since then and those trees are inaccessible to mankind.

So what of The Tree of Life, then? Will mankind never get to taste its fruit?

Jesus has said:

"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God." Revelation 2: 7 K. J. V.

He speaks of it again and says:

"In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations." Revelation 22:2 K.J.V.

And finally He says:

"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city." Revelation 22:14 K.J.V.


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teaches12345 4 years ago

Wonderful hub topic and so very interesting. I have often wondered about the fruit as well. I do believe, as you say, that some people would love to know so that they could derive some "magic" from the fruit. You have written this with great style and wisdom. Thanks for sharing.


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Hyphenbird 4 years ago from America-Broken But Still Beautiful

This really is an interesting subject and has initiated many a conversation. I personally do not think the the actual fruit is important to the issue and may not actually be physical. After all, we have the fruit of the spirit. The main point is that Adam and Eve found it more tempting than obedience.

I agree with you that none of the mentioned fruits are the one. But we will (have) taste of the Tree of Life and its juice is the blood of Jesus.

You have written well of a confusing subject and one that Satan uses to distract mankind from the Way, the Truth and the Life. John 14:6 Even if one found the garden, without Jesus He could not access the fruit.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

This another wonderful hub. You have a lot of information in it. Since God place Cherubims and the Flaming Sword to guard the entrance to the Garden of Eden, of course there will never be a way to identify the Tree of Knowledge. I also don't think it was ever grown outside the Garden of Eden. Well, at least that is my opinion. I think the reason the Garden of closed, is because both of the trees are in there. Neither one of them is outside.


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Dave Mathews 4 years ago from NORTH YORK,ONTARIO,CANADA

North Wind: The question in itself is also the answer to the question.

Adam and Eve were void of the knowledge of Good and Evil. They knew only that which Almighty God imparted to them.

The Fruit is not a fruit as one would think it, not a pear or an apple or a cherry, but knowledge, knowledge God did not desire mankind to be aware of because of its dangers.


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Thanks for reading, teaches12345. Your comments always add value and I appreciate them very much!


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Yes, Hyphenbird, I really do think that disobedience was a key part in it. I also agree with you that trying to find out just what kind of fruit it was is a distraction from Christ. He is the only Way and with Him all answers lie.

Thanks so much for reading.


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Michele, I agree with you. I don't think The Tree of Knowledge grew outside of the Garden either. They were two original trees that did not have copies.

I am glad you liked the hub!


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Dave Mathews, I get what you are saying and I agree that the fruit imparted knowledge that brought danger into the lives of Adam and Eve. I also know some people don't think it was a physical fruit, they think the fruit represented something. That is a whole different article and, honestly, I can't say who would be right about that.

Thanks so much for reading and taking time to comment.


Scott Kelley 4 years ago

interesting article. Maybe someday we will know and understand the meanings. But what was it that gave Adam and Eve death. Were they immortal at one time? What did the tree's do and what was their purpose and what forbidden knowledge do they hold? Your article brings many questions to the table. Is it worth dwelling on and seeking? Or do we accept that we should not or want not to know?


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hi Scott Kelley,

You are right - there are many questions that can be brought up. I think the decision to pursue the answers or to leave them alone and trust in God's judgment is entirely up to the individual. The only thing I know that is worth dwelling on and seeking is the Kingdom of God and His righteousness.

Thanks so much for reading and asking these questions. They, admittedly, have set my mind buzzing.


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sonfollowers 4 years ago from Alpharetta, GA

North Wind,

Great hub. I tend to go with the story of Adam and Eve being actual events and that the fruit is an actual, literal fruit (mostly because Jesus seemed to believe that it was a true story when he referenced it in Matthew 19:4). I don't think it's allegorical as some might suggest. I had never considered that the two trees were of a type that does not exist today. This makes a lot of sense for the reasons you described. When I first started reading, my general thought was "Who cares what the fruit was? It doesn't really make any difference." Now that I see where you went with it, I think you have an interesting premise there. It's funny to me that all of the speculation about which fruit it was could actually be a complete waste of time for exactly the reasons you mentioned.

"The only thing I know that is worth dwelling on and seeking is the Kingdom of God and His righteousness."

I couldn't agree more. Good stuff, and nice work.

See you around!


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hi sonfollowers,

Thanks for reading :) I am glad that you wrote why you believe that it was a literal fruit. I do think that when Jesus referred to the Old Testament, He never spoke about it as though it was written as a metaphor.

I am glad you stuck it out to see where I went with it. All glory and praise goes to Him and He is indeed the priceless pearl.

Thank you so much for adding to my hub!


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Elijah7 4 years ago from Israel - England - Hong Kong - Hawaii - Paradise

Awesome subject bro' and great replies from all - Amen

Since 1974, have had multiple visions of past and future events, with a large volume coming to pass AFTER the night, day or written visions transpired.

This solely and DIRECTLY (supernaturally) led me to Hawaii from England in 1983 (because of Love AND Dreams) where, from December 1984 - January 1986, the Water and Holy Fire Baptism for Salvation and the Great Call to Preach The Gospel was Given By The Lord - Amen.

On the day the Gift of Speaking in Tongues came to pass, a Revelation on the Tree of Life was Confirmed by a Mighty Sign, and will copy and paste the Testimony on this later, God Willing.

HOWEVER, within this entire Theme and Time Frame, another Revelation Transpired centred in your Hub Topic.

Consequently, i KNOW what the Fruit of The Tree of The Knowledge of Good and Evil WAS.

For me personally, NO DOUBT exists. Others may care to disagree and that's just fine and cool - no problem.

So HERE IT IS in numbered Points for ease of reading :

1). The Flood WIPED OUT EVERYTHING. Man WAS Forbidden from eating The Fruit Of The Tree Of Life because God DID NOT want sin soaked souls LIVING FOREVER on earth; Obviously so !!

JESUS never Actually Discusses the Garden "Fruit Of Evil", He simply Refers to "Knowing The Tree By The Fruit" and other Fruit Parables. JESUS Reveals DEEP Things In Parables. JESUS IS The Son Of JEHOVAH, The LORD God In The Garden. Hence "Parables" ARE Very Important.

2). The Book Of Revelation Reveals The Eternal Life Fruit to be an ACTUAL Tree, with monthly Produce that Man WILL eat - Amen.

Therefore, this FRUIT has SEEDS. Therefore, even though The Flood tenfold decimated EVERYTHING, Seeds survive floods - Amen.

Whatsoever Tree grew FROM THOSE Seeds AFTER The Flood hath been "Spiritually Protected" By God - Amen. This is another Testimony.

3). What therefore IS The Knowledge Of Good and Evil? At the material time, Adam and Eve WOULD have lived forever, IF they had "passed The Test". They knew NOTHING about The Old Serpent, The Devil, The Dragon, Lucifer; nor did they know HOW IT got down to this earth. Again, ONLY The Book Of Revelation EXPLAINS this without doubt. Revelation 12 : 7-9. "There WAS War In Heaven" - Past Tense.

4). It is The Glory of God to Conceal a Matter, and The Glory of Kings to Search it out. Born Again Christians ARE Kings and Priests in Christ - Amen. God Mostly Does nothing without Revealing something akin to His Plan, TO His prophets, ahead of Time - Alleluia.

5). DEATH was an IMPOSSIBLE concept for Adam, save only he was told HE WILL DIE, if he eats that FOUL "FRUIT". Eve clarifies that they WILL die if they even TOUCH it !!! After they (and The Serpent) FAILED THE BIG TEST, The LORD God had to "make them clothes of ANIMAL SKINS" Here's the big clue. Something DIED to clothe them. This was A LAMB, for obvious reasons - Abel to JESUS. What killed the lamb? Answer : The Serpent.

6). Being "HUNG ON A TREE" is The Greatest Curse in Hebrew Doctrine. Fruit hangs from trees. Adam and Eve were Vegan - Fruitarian, in That Day, As Commanded. Man was NOT designed to eat MEAT. This Commandment was later annulled by Grace. Eating meat involves DEATH. Death is Evil. The Knowledge Of Evil spanned BACK in Time to the War in Heaven that put the devils down on this earth in the first place. Hence, The Tree of The Knowledge of Good and Evil, in this instance, is BOTH Allegorical AND Physical - Actual. The Knowledge of Good involves Mich-a-el WINNING The War in Heaven, and the "imprisonment" of the devils down here, including Punishment for them AND Salvation by The Blood Of The Lamb - Amen

7). Hence, the kosher laws for the Hebrews in Sinai, and The Passover Lamb's Blood Pointing to JESUS being "Hung on The Tree" for The Salvation of ALL who WILL Believe, and Follow The Commandments and Example Of Christ (Including Baptism). This is BECAUSE of The Curse from The Garden, caused by DISOBEDIENCE.

THEREFORE, The Fruit Of The Tree Of The Knowledge Of Good and Evil WAS a DEAD lamb, hung there by The Serpent, that killed it, and Lucifer ALSO told Eve a whole lot of "stuff" she was NOT supposed to know. (linked with "desire" spawned by red meat eating - sexual sin; hence covering the loins with fig leaves) including how to COOK the meat, and the sweet smell (savour) of the cooking. One should NOT eat meat unless it is cooked - "We must not even TOUCH it because we will die then also" Death is accompanied by decay, rotting and disease, unless the corpse is quickly buried. "STAY AWAY FROM THE DEAD LAMB young Eve".

So, mankind became CARNIVOROUS on that very day, POISONED, by Death FOR Death, AND they were "informed of all the gory details" such Knowledge as they were NOT supposed to have THEN.

The rest is some 6012 years of VERY sad, violent, blood drenched, foul satanic HISTORY...Selah

† Revelation 22:2 †

"In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."

Here's a Nice Worship Song to INSPIRE you brother :-

http://www.TheSevenThunders.org/C7-Music/Theres-A-...

RIGHT CLINK THE ABOVE LINK AND THEN OPEN IN A NEW TAB TO AVOID NAVIGATING AWAY FROM YOUR HUB PAGE - Amen and MIZPAH.

Maranatha...

Love, Hope and Truth...

Elijah †


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hi Elijah7,

Wow, your comment certainly is food for thought. Thank you for sharing with me your revelation. I am pleased and humbled that you would decide to let me know about it.

There is much to think about and my head is spinning.

No doubt that every answer is with the Lord, Elijah7, and though I seek wisdom and through wisdom, revelation, I really just hope to be a fool for God. To be able to praise Him as I should and give Him the worship He deserves.

There are so many truths that are in the Bible and some will be revealed to us now and some will not. Please bear with me as Paul bore with the Bereans.I must weigh all with the Scripture.

Your words reveal a great passion and zeal for the Lord and I am awed by your strong stance for Him. Thank you for your blessing and encouragement.

God bless you and keep you.


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Elijah7 4 years ago from Israel - England - Hong Kong - Hawaii - Paradise

Thanks brother...

Love your humility - Alleluia..

The REAL Key IS Revealed Here :

† Revelation 12 : 7 - 9 †

"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

The "WAS" Reveals HOW the devils got down here in the first place, ESPECIALLY The Old Serpent into The Garden of Eden.

Please forgive me for the unusual writing style. Better at "Speaking these sort of (sought-after) things." The caps and suchlike are to try to EMPHASISE key points that are better spoken.

As you "Berean", please DO consider DEEPLY : "Why WERE Burnt Offerings to the LORD First Instigated? Why IS Blood spilt an Antonement for Sin?" Note also, that Man was ONLY Given Fruit with the Seed INSIDE IT as The Dietary Commandment In The Beginning.

In any and ALL Events, the Observation on The Lamb (above) STILL Points to JESUS Crucified, Resurrected and Ascended for ALL who WILL Truly Believe - Amen & Amen.

These Holy Scriptures below sum this ALL up for me personally, In Love and Hope - even The Meekness of The Lamb at Golgotha.

† 1 Peter 3 : 15 †

"But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:"

† Matthew 13 : 35 †

"That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world."

† Hebrews 9 : 24 - 27 †

"For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself."

† Hebrews 12 : 24 †

"And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel."

† 1 Peter 1 : 18 - 21 †

"Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God."

As we prepare for Service this Sunday 22nd April (Hong Kong time)

may the Words of this Worship Song below INSPIRE your Meditation in The Living Christ JESUS In Heaven - our King of Glory - Amen †

http://www.TheSevenThunders.org/C7-Music/TheWonder...

PLEASE RIGHT CLICK ABOVE LINK AND OPEN IN NEW TAB OR WINDOW TO AVOID NAVIGATING AWAY FROM YOUR HUB PAGE - Mizpah & Maranatha †


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hi again, Elijah7,

There is no need to explain your style of writing.I understood that the capitals were for emphasis :) You are trying to type so that in a way I can hear your voice and your tones. It does not offend me at all.

I will ponder what you said. Thank you very much for the Scripture verses.

God be with you.


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Elijah7 4 years ago from Israel - England - Hong Kong - Hawaii - Paradise

Hi again brother - Just scrolled on by - big smile - Did you Discern anything EXTRA to add to this Theme?

Thanks & Blessings..

† Acts 3 : 20 - 21 †

"And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began."

Theme Music to go with the Scripture Above - Amen †

http://www.TheSevenThunders.org/C7-Music/RendThehe...


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hi Elijah7,

Nice to see you here again :) Thank you for reminding me to search the Scriptures to find out more about this theme. Have you thought about writing a hub of your own on the topic? It would be one I would be interested to read.


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Elijah7 4 years ago from Israel - England - Hong Kong - Hawaii - Paradise

Thanks brother - great suggestion. Have the data in our Evangelical Website and (hopefully) into a New Book for the secular Lost sheep of the West - waiting for the financing to ADVERTISE THE BOOK.

Very busy, but "yea" AGAIN - a new hub is a great idea.

Please add our financial victory to your Prayer List - i found the time to join hubpages five weeks ago simple BECAUSE we are WAITING to recover a SUBSTANTIAL debt owed to our Company - big old Hong Kong Legal Action for Contract breaches (nasty HK Chinese money-worshipping, incompetent scoundrels) This part IS in a hub here :

http://hubpages.com/games-hobbies/GALAXION-THE-INT...

Until then let's stay in touch...

† Galatians 6 : 6 †

"Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things."

Crank up the Volume bro' and kick back to THIS Awesome Revelation New Song - The keyboard REACHES PEAKS OF HOLY SPIRITUAL CRESCENDOS WITH A FINAL DIVINE CLIMAX - Awesome is an understatement - MIZPAH † :-

http://www.TheSevenThunders.org/C7-Music/Holy-IS-o...


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Glad to hear that there is a book in the works, Elijah7.I am sorry to hear about the financial problems. I will pray concerning this and all other things as well.

Your hub could also promote your book.


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Elijah7 4 years ago from Israel - England - Hong Kong - Hawaii - Paradise

Thank you so much - Truly Perceive that The Holy Spirit is With you.

The Prayers of the True Saints are so PRECIOUS - Maranatha brother.

Love your humility in your Profile writing.

Can only give another Great Worship Song to make the "empty room" Resound With His Love - Amen †

http://www.theseventhunders.org/C7-Music/Watchman-...

† Galatians 3 : 22 †

"But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe."


chris713 4 years ago

Ahhhhh Blanket Immunity it's always cute. Kinda has a happy happy little hollywood ending. Works on paper probably.

The Holy Spirit doesn't baptize with water - God will baptize you with fire the same way He baptized His son. And if you have the strength, humility, trust, and faith in God then you won't succumb. And if you don't die, or pick up a sword and join the gauntlet then you will come out the other side glowing.

ONLY THEN you will be worthy to be ANYWHERE near God and Heaven. You will then be able to call yourselves the Sons and Daughters of God who defeated satan. And there are NO shortcuts.

But at least you've found a religion and dropped your anchor - that's only step one.


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hello Chris713,

Thank you for reading my hub and commenting. I am not sure what you mean by blanket immunity and what does a Hollywood ending have to do with it? I was speaking of the fruit in the garden and for whatever reason you supposed that I was not aware of the persecution of the brethren? I quoted from Revelation I think I know what baptism I will get and I also have received a taste of it already. Can you say the same? I would say to you to be careful where you stand lest you fall.

I have not found religion and dropped my anchor. Firstly, I am not an anchor, Jesus is, and secondly a dead person cannot get up by himself far less go out and search can they? Christ I am nobody.


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celafoe 3 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

TRUTH

I can assure that none of the fruits mentioned were either of these two trees. in the garden was THE tree of knowledge of good and evil and THE tree of life/ There was only one of each. And we know that Jesus IS The Tree of Life.

Question?

??? maybe the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was the devil and eating the fruit set him loose


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North Wind 3 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hello celafoe,

Yes, I do agree that unlike other plants there was only one Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and one Tree of Life. Jesus is the Tree of Life, you are right.

As for your question - very interesting. I cannot say if you are right or wrong ( and even if I do choose a side, I could be wrong ). I will have to think about it some more.


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Felipe717 3 years ago from Philadelphia, PA

Great insight! Such a simple subject with a simple answer. Thanks.


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Caleb DRC 3 years ago

Very interesting, North Wind.

I did not actually count them but I estimate you have 90 to 100 of your hubs on your profile. If you do not have all your hubs listed on your profile, then this is the way to get them all there.

1. Go to your profile, and click "edit profile." 2. Scroll all the way down to "Show only featured hubs on my profile," and click "NO". 3. Go down to "Save changes", and click that. After you do that all your hubs will be on your profile.


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North Wind 3 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hi Caleb,

Thanks for the tip! I think I will do that.


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Joen Eriksen 2 years ago from Tórshavn

Eve was the tree of knowledge. She bare evil and good fruit when she was known by the evil father, the serpent and the good father, Adam.

Children are referred to as the fruit of the womb. Hoseas 9:16 and Psalm 127:3. Outside of the garden the tree of knowledge, Eve, was no more a forbidden KNOWLEDGE. Adam KNEW his wife. The only tree forbidden after the fall was the tree of Life. Gen 3:22 ...and take ALSO of the tree of Life... In other words: They WERE in fellowship with God, but not anymore. They lost the eternal Life. They were cut of.

Eve was now expected to give birth to the tree of Life, Jesus Christ. The seed of the woman. The woman was saved in childbearing. Jesus Christ our savior, born of a woman.


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celafoe 2 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

of course what the fruit was is absolutely immaterial, and spending time trying to figure it out is a waste of time. The whole lesson with the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is simply obedience and disobedience. Obedience brings closeness to God and disobedience brings separation.

Rom 5:19 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous.

Just as obedience to Christ brings eternal life (salvation) and disobedience brings the lake of fire (damnation)


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North Wind 2 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Agreed, Celafoe. Obedience is better than sacrifice.

@ Joen Eriksen - I have heard that explanation before but I can't stand by it and say it was so. Does that mean that you believe that Cain was the literal son of the serpent and that Abel was the son of Adam? Thanks for the comment.


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Joen Eriksen 2 years ago from Tórshavn

celfoe. It is not possible to just spend time in order to understand the book and God. He have to open the seal of the book and give us the understanding needed to see...Colossians 1:9

North Wind. Yes.

But I do not believe the serpent to be the devil in spiritual understanding, but only the most subtil beast of the field, as it is written. This means that the OT is "only" giving us a "flesh image/picture" to understand what is going to happen in the spiritual future. Jesus Christ the last Adam is the real thing happening all over again.

OT is all about the sons of God, Israel, after the FLESH. But the spiritual Israel is born, not of flesh, not of women, but of God.


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celafoe 2 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

JE i have seen this stuff you espouse before and it is defintely not of God. Eve was NOT the tree , What foolishness from the minds of men. If she were the tree she was in the garden and unable to leave , but she was not in the garden and was with Adam and continued to bear him children. Since Adam and Eve were "in the image of God" what you say is not possible. You are deceived. and trying to deceive others


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celafoe 2 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

sorry t sent before I was done

Gen 3:2-7 And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.'"

4 Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings.

NKJV


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Joen Eriksen 2 years ago from Tórshavn

celafoe. When we read "all trees clap your hands" is he talking about trees in the forest or is he talking about people of all nations? Even gentiles!

When saying "the trees went to chose themselves a king" is he talking about trees or people of different nations? Even the thorns / gentiles.

When saying "the axe is laid unto the root of the tree" does John talk about the forest or about human beings? Even the sons of Abraham, the Jews.

Do you still not understand that eating apples "entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?" The knowledge was the knowledge of knowing the woman.

If you do not understand what kind of "eating" was good and evil in the beginning, then how can you claim to know what is good and evil to the body of Christ, the church?

Be filled with all SPIRITUAL understanding. Col 1:9


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Ed Jusino 2 years ago from Horsham, PA.

Simple truth. The Book of Proverbs is that Forbidden Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Israel that God prohibited Man from eating!


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North Wind 2 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hello Ed Jusino,

Could you explain to me how the Book of Proverbs is the forbidden fruit? I genuinely want to hear the full explanation.

Thanks.


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sonfollowers 2 years ago from Alpharetta, GA

Wow. There is so much that's messed up about that explanation that it's hard to know where to start, but I've decided to just run with this: The book of Proverbs was written by Solomon years after David had died and thus could not have been present in the garden. So chronologically, the thesis statement of that little dissertation is pretty much DOA. The rest of it is entertaining but sadly equally as confused. Those are my thoughts. Have a great day!


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Ed Jusino 2 years ago from Horsham, PA.

A little secret North Wind;

Why keep looking for the Garden of Eden? Humanity and the whole Planet Earth; We are his Garden and God is protecting us from any asteroid coming from that darkness that we call Space!


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Ed Jusino 2 years ago from Horsham, PA.

Hello sonfollowers, i understand is too much truth to handle especially when is been hidden for more than 2000 years. Is impacting for unbelievers so you could imagine how a beleiver will react to such a Bible Discovery.But the truth is the truth and there is no way around it. Let me simplify it a little better. There is a reason why God in Genesis tells the same story twice and is the format of it and Bible Scholars have not figure it out until now since i made it public in the internet (2012) in hubpages my copyrighted (2008) manuscript of forty chapters tittle The Sacred Sword.

There is a creation made in the "evening era" by the words of God and there was a creation in the "morning era" by the hands of God. Simple! That evening era is mostly the Old Testament and that morning era basically starts with King David until now.

Revelation 22:16 “I Jesus have sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star.”

This Morning Era begins with King David who tipyfies the Tree of Life and the Celestial Israel is a picture of the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil and King Solomon takes charge of Israel but his heart turns away from the Word of God and this includes his Proverbs that takes or adds from the Holy Scriptures of God and this is why that forbidden fruit God does not want you to eat and digest it because you will trully die.

And peace (river) went out of Eden to water the garden; and this place of Eden in the Bible is actually a Levite Priest;

2 Chronicles 29:1...and of the Gershonites; Joah the son of Zimmah, and Eden the son of Joah:

And this Levite Priest cleansed the House of the Lord which is the whole planet Earth in the days of King David and his son Solomon who builded the Temple of God and at this point of time needed to be cleansed.

2 Chronicles 29:16 And the priests went into the inner part of the house of the Lord, to cleanse it, and brought out all the uncleanness that they found in the temple of the Lord into the court of the house of the Lord. And the Levites took it, (the uncleanness) to carry it out abroad into the brook Kidron. (place by Gethsemane where sin started)

And from thence this peace or river was parted, and became into four heads like a picture of a spiral galaxy or the form of a hurricane because for Jehovah everything has a reason for being and this is not the exception in life being created and recreated when it comes to man or earth. "Is simple to understand all of this if we have the help of the Holy Spirit"

"It is not a theory when we have the Creator showing us in Genesis and in the book of Ezequiel the creation of the Universe."

"And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die".

The meaning and interpretation is that all them planted trees in the garden were celestial beings preaching the Word of God and giving from their fruit to the man and the women that were created. They were the only man and women created at that point of time but they were not alone in the Garden of God. Don't we all have a genealogical family tree? God compares us with trees, and don't we all look for that Tree of Life that is in Jesus Christ?


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North Wind 2 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hello Ed Jusino,

Thanks so much for explaining. I did decide to delete your first comment and not because I disagree with your point of view but because it is directly from your hub. I am afraid that I will be taken to task for having your content on my page. Hope you understand.

I have to say though that I do agree with sonfollowers - the timeline does not make sense. I understand your explanation about the morning and evening era but then the genealogy would have no place there so why would they list it in the middle of a metaphor (which I am guessing you are saying Genesis is?)


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Sgt Prepper 17 months ago from Elkhorn, WI

I still think man-gravy is the Forbidden Fruit.

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