What is the difference between Born again christian and roman catholic?

Is there any big differences between a roman catholic and born again christian? My families were baptized in a Catholic church and so do I. I had confirmation when I was 14, I think. What makes me confused is I don't know who I really am as a roman catholic. I am religious. Praying the rosary is not enough for me. I feel like I'm not talking to Jesus because we keep on saying "Hail Mary full of Grace...." and "Our Father in Heaven, Holy be thy name...." That is why I can say that there is something missing. I'm not trying to be mean right now. We confess our sins by talking to our priests (Confession). I want to confess directly to Jesus and I don't even say those prayers (Hail Mary and Our Father). And I don't feel like I am a Roman Catholic. I don't really even understand why we have confirmation and why we have to pray the rosary at 6 pm.

I have few friends who are born again christian. One of them told me last night that to be born again is to receive Salvation, and be saved through receiving The Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour, that we have to believe in Him, repent and follow Him. I want to begin a new life. The way I pray is different from them. I talk to Jesus, cry and confess my sins with all my heart. I'm scared that my parents will be mad at me because I am not fully roman catholic. I don't know any churches in Oslo, Norway. What must man do to be a born again christian and how can we baptized?

THE NEW BIRTH MUST TAKE IN PLACE IN US OR WE CANNOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD

Jesus said these words in Mt 18:3-EXCEPT YE BE CONVERTED, AND BECOME AS LITTLE CHILDREN, YE SHALL NOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. Thus we have another condition on entering heaven. You (1) must be converted, and (2) you must become as little children. When you are born the second time, born of the Spirit, a conversion takes place in your attitude. By faith you begin to overcome all things. Your attitude changes. You begin to love the Word of God. You begin to hate sin and every evil way. You become converted from doing your will, to doing the will of God, and you must become as little children. In other words, your attitude must become childlike. You begin receiving correction as a little child from the Word of God. You quit striving about the Word of God. You quit being contentious regarding the Word of God, and receive God’s Word in a humble, meek, childlike attitude. You begin to let Jesus reign over you. Whatever you do should be compared with the Word of God. Few people will allow God’s Word to reign over them. They want their own way. They perish. You must be born-again. You must be converted. You must become as a little child, who receives correction from his parents gladly and willingly. You must do God’s will, or perish.

Some incorrectly think "to be converted" means to convert from (not believing in Jesus) to (believing in Jesus). Many believe in Jesus in their thoughts or mind, but they do not trust in Him or believe and trust in all the Bible. He is in their head but not in their heart. They know "of Him" but they do not personally "know Him." They are at best only lukewarm. They have little or no true commitment to Jesus.

Some may think it is being converted from something like Hinduism to Christianity. Wrong. Being converted is putting off the old man and putting on the new man. Many people profess that they are Christians, but they have never been converted to the new man. Many will perish at the judgment, perhaps claiming these words, "I am a Christian."

Just saying you are a Christian does not save you or convert you or cause you to be born-again.

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Duane 7 years ago

that bullshit listen the girl up their u are a roman catholic by confessing to jesus and speaking to him is enough that is being a roman catholic don't become the bulshit money making racket born again it a whole load of crap. People who have turned away believe this and choose to impose thier befliefs apon other people who are confused about what they are... stick with being a roman catholic say the roasry and go to church thats all u doin need to do more than that and aslo believe and love god... also fk those people that started that other religion or cest cuas eit don't make sense aspecially born again they don't believe in mary yet for ovr\er 2000 years we have adored prayed to and whorshiped mary. fk those dik heads that made that religion god bless. my e mail is curryangel@hotmail.com


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godfactauthor 7 years ago from Auckland

Hi Hazel & Duane

First of all I have to correct Duane and emphatically point out that the Catholic Church does not teach, encourage or allow Catholics to worship Mary. It may just be language. We do not adore or worship Mary. Adoration and worship is reserved for the three persons of the Trinity. While instead we honour Mary. We also love her as we love God and are called to love everytone.

Hazel Our Lord and Saviour taught his disciples and us (through Sacred Scripture) to pray the Our Father. Like Pope Benedict says we are called to an encounter with Christ. One can have such an encounter with Christ within the Catholic Church. One can do so my learning why the Church teaches certain things. The Eucharist is the "life, source, and summit of our faith." I have much that I would like to discuss with you. I even know a Catholic organisation that could even help you develop a personal relationship with Christ in Norway. Please email me through my website www.godfact.com

God bless

Brendan


Jiju Joseph 7 years ago

Hazel, I hope by now you would have found a good church where you can receive the word of God. To tell you, I was Roman Catholic by birth by at th age of 28 i became a Born Again believer. I am fully convinced by the help of the Holy Spirit on the path of salvation which is clearly told in the Bible. So I suggest you to meditate on the word and may my God give you the Spiritual Wisdom and Godly Knowledge. You can reach me at kjijujoseph@gmail.com


Hazel 7 years ago

Thank you so much for your replies. All your answers help me alot. God bless you all. :)


Yvette 7 years ago

I am appalled at the lack of knowledge from the so-called born again christians. They are a sect just like Mormans. However, if we have the knowledge and choose to believe in God anyway we want, then that is it. I am a Catholic by birth and choose this now as an adult. When I went to a B-A-Christian church, the preacher was saying how all muslims were evil. WOW. How ignorant. I have heard my own sister say how Obama is the Anti-Christ and how only a few hundred are going to be chosen from the born again church to be saved when Jesus comes. That is so dumb. So all the people in the world that believe in other religions are going to hell. I can't believe that people buy this crap. All the other christians in other churches are wrong and aren't going to be with the Holy Father. Please, get over yourselves. Your self-righteous hypocrital talk is not going to score you a place in Heaven. No one is perfect and one church is not above another. I personally have a personal relationship with God and choose to call myself a Roman-Catholic, but I do not believe that because I am a Catholic Christian I am any better than you are. We are alll human living together in a diverse society. Whatever we all believe in, we should not condemn others... although I do not believe in the Morman or born again christian ways I would not directly go to them and tell them they are wrong or going to hell because they didn't believe what I believed in. that, on the contrary, is all I have ever heard preached at a born again church. How everyone else is wrong and they are superior. Funny, how all of them seem to come out of gangs or drugs etc, and need something else to belong to. Whatever works I guess. I also think, how come a born again church is not at St. Peters grave/square. The vatican is there for a reason......maybe because catholic means universal and we have the universal church, with the Pope calling upon peace between the religions not hate for them.


Yvette 7 years ago

I am appalled at the lack of knowledge from the so-called born again christians. They are a sect just like Mormans. However, if we have the knowledge and choose to believe in God anyway we want, then that is it. I am a Catholic by birth and choose this now as an adult. When I went to a B-A-Christian church, the preacher was saying how all muslims were evil. WOW. How ignorant. I have heard my own sister say how Obama is the Anti-Christ and how only a few hundred are going to be chosen from the born again church to be saved when Jesus comes. That is so dumb. So all the people in the world that believe in other religions are going to hell. I can't believe that people buy this crap. All the other christians in other churches are wrong and aren't going to be with the Holy Father. Please, get over yourselves. Your self-righteous hypocrital talk is not going to score you a place in Heaven. No one is perfect and one church is not above another. I personally have a personal relationship with God and choose to call myself a Roman-Catholic, but I do not believe that because I am a Catholic Christian I am any better than you are. We are alll human living together in a diverse society. Whatever we all believe in, we should not condemn others... although I do not believe in the Morman or born again christian ways I would not directly go to them and tell them they are wrong or going to hell because they didn't believe what I believed in. that, on the contrary, is all I have ever heard preached at a born again church. How everyone else is wrong and they are superior. Funny, how all of them seem to come out of gangs or drugs etc, and need something else to belong to. Whatever works I guess. I also think, how come a born again church is not at St. Peters grave/square. The vatican is there for a reason......maybe because catholic means universal and we have the universal church, with the Pope calling upon peace between the religions not hate for them.


Jeff Wahlberg 7 years ago

I would love to discuss this confusion further for those who are upset with the born again Christians. It is not a religion that gets you to heaven, but it is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.


Zach 7 years ago

that is 100% true. I hate the word religion! Im not religious at all, i have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. if you have any further questions feel free to email me at zsoccerguy@yahoo.com.


Sair 7 years ago

John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:5-7 (in Context) **(Not Even Mary)

Matthew 18:2-4 (New International Version)

2He called a little child and had him stand among them. 3And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

Acts 2:37-39 (New International Version)

37When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?"

38Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call." ** (Repentance comes before Baptism- so why would a baby be baptised w/ out repentance)


Sair 7 years ago

John 3:6-8 (New International Version)

6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit[a] gives birth to spirit. 7You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You[b] must be born again.' 8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."

Footnotes:John 3:6 Or but spiritJohn 3:7 The Greek is plural.


Corinne 7 years ago

I was a Catholic for 24 years old until I began reading the New Testament. I found that many of the things the Catholic church did was totally against scripture.

#1) Jesus said not to say the same prayer over and oevr again...the rosary...repetitious prayers...Hail Mary and Our Father over and over again!!! Jesus wants us to talk to him like we would a friend. Say the Our Father just once and then tell him you love him, praise him, tell him what you need, pray for others, pray for yourself, ask him to renew your mind and heart, invite him into your heart, ask him to mold you into the child he has always desired you to become, be willing to do whatever he wants for your life, talk to him like a friend! He created you to fellowship with him! Ask Jesus to be on the throne of your life guiding your every step. Be willing to turn from all your sin...Live for him and he will give you everlasting life!

#2) Jesus NEVER instructed us to pray rto Mary!!!!!!! In fact he said not to! He sais to pray to God ALONE and Jesus ALONE can interceed to the throne of God. We pray to the Father through Jesus. We end our prayers "In Jesus name" Mary cannot hear our prayers. She does not have the ability too. She is in heaven and can only hear one person at a time. And there are no tears in heaven. She NEVER is upset and NEVER crys. We can pray WITH people in earth but all our prayers can go only to God the TRINITY! We can pray for people to GOD alone.

#3) Jesus says in his word Mary is NOT the eternal virgin. God says in his word Mary was ONLY a virgin until Jesus was born. After Jesus was born Mary began having sex with Joseph and had other children.

#4) Infant baptism is unbiblical. Jesus said REPENT and be baptized. We have to be baptized when we are at the age to make the decision too. Babies that die go to heaven. They are innocent.

#5) Purgatory is made up. It is unbiblical and it is NOT wirtten in the Bible. Jesus said to the thief on the cross "Today you will be with me in paradise" The word also says " To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord." It is the Holy Spirit that cleanses us daily. When we enter heaven we will immedietly be transformed and be perfect. We do not need to burned before. Jesus saved us from this. That is the purpose of the cross.

#6) To bow in front of a statue to pray is breaking one of the ten commanmdents. Jesus said to even MAKE a graven image is condemned!!

#7) Jesus said not to abstain from marriage or from certain foods.

#8) Jesus said not to call anyone fatehr on earth yet priests call themselves "Fathers."

#9) The Bible says anyone who is saved and has the Holy Spirit living in them is a Saint. The Catholic church only declares certain people a saint. This is totally against what Jesus says in his word.

#10) We can not get to heaven by being a good person and doing good works. Even if a Buddhist spends his whole life helping the poor if someone witnessed Jesus to him and he rejected the message he has no salvation. LOVE false religions enough to tell them the truth! People say they don't want to hurt their feelings. I would rather tell them the truth if the truth will get them a ticket to heaven for all eternity!

#11) The Catholic church no longer swears by the Bible. But Jesus says,"Heaven and earth will pass away but my word will NEVER!" THAT is how important it is!

After reading the New Testament, I got on my hands and knees and cried out to Jesus "I have been deceived for 24 years. I have been lied to. For this religion is false and does not follow your word. I want to follow you Jesus and your word. Jesus come into my heart. I give you all my heart mind and soul. Please SAVE ME! And fill me with the Holy Spirit that you so much talk about in your word. I will follow you and your word over manmade tradition that contradicts your word! I surrender to you Lord! I love you!"

I then broke my baptizmal candle in half and joined a Bible believing bible following church and got baptized the right way!!! Jesus is so close to me now and I read his word every day. He has changed my life completely and I am a new person and I have his spirit living in me. I was empty for 24 years. Now Jesus's spirit lives in me and I will go to heaven when I die.

Jesus called me in to evangelism...especially reaching out to Catholics. I tell them the truth and they get saved and their eyes open to the truth. Once the veil is lifted from your eyes you will always know the truth.

READ the New Testament. In it, you will find Christ!

I will help you find a church. Just email me at forjesuscd@hotmail.com. I love you and will help you in any way I can. Love, Corinne


Manola Flora 7 years ago

Corinne, you are so right, I've been born again since 8 years ago, unfortunately it was because my sister died, but thanks be to God, she received Jesus as her Lord and Saviour and so did most of my immediate family and one day I will be with her in heaven. That's God's promise. We were brought up roman catholics and even though my sister and mum were so called 'religious' but not having a personal relationship with Jesus, and myself always searching for answers which I never got from the church, until finally God's grace took me out of the pit and we are now totally free from religious bondage. I thank Him for having mercy on me and my family, sometimes it takes something bad to happen for Him to turn it to good, because HE IS GOOD and now our lives have been transformed, we follow His mighty guidance each day as He leads the way, we pray like never before through the Blessed Holy Spirit in us and the truth has set us free indeed. He is also my healer as we 've seen Him work in our lives. HE IS OUR JOY FOR ETERNITY. My heart goes out for the ones that don't know Him yet and are living in bondage because they were brought up like me not knowing Jesus personally, not reading the bible, and following church laws which aren't right, and are made to believe wrong things. Jesus message was very simple, LOVE AND PEACE, and to love God with all your heart and soul, an easy rule to follow, but have been disobedient and we need to go back to OUR FATHER. I pray that their eyes will be open just like mine were opened. That they will move out from where they are not feeling guilty in finding the real Jesus and salvation that comes only from Him and will have a surety of heaven in the future and not believing that any belief in any other god will bring them to heaven. HE SAID IN HIS WORD, I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.


Anonymous 7 years ago

I urge everyone to read the Bible to see what God wants us to follow. We can't rely on tradition nor our own opinions. People can argue about it should be like this or that, but, in the end if it's not biblical it doesn't really matter. God knows our heart and you can't justify yourself with your own arguments if it conflicts His word.

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from youselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do " (Eph. 2:8,9).

Hence salvation is a free gift to those who accepts Christ as His savior. Good works follow (or else it's but dead faith) because you are a new creation (2 Corintians 5:17). Hope this helps a little bit.


Anonymouse 7 years ago

I don't see any reason to convert to Born-again. You can enter a Catholic church without being a Catholic(Except Iglesia ni Christo, i dunno the english term for this) and in the same way, you can join christian worship. I don't really like how the born-again does things because of their claims such as Catholics worships idols, members of Iglesia will not go to heaven because they believe that Jesus is only a messiah not a God. I'm born a Catholic which studied in a born-again high school; now I'm somewhere between Agnostic and Atheist.

It doesn't matter what religion you choose as long as that's your decision. As for Jesus, there more than 3 religions worshipping him. You just have to choose which suits you best. Just think of the religions of Jesus Christ as different roads to the same final destination.

As for me, I don't worship any Gods right now and its something I chose on my own.


Manola Flora 7 years ago

Anonymouse.

Religions are man made, Jesus hated religion. Whatever you are agnostic or atheist, a lot of christians think like you, all roads lead to the same final destination. No, please re-read your bible and ask for revelation, you need it badly. You don't choose which suits you best, like trying on a dress or whatever, you've chosen now not to worship any God (not Gods as there is only ONE). Do you expect Him to choose you? The good thing about God, He is so GOOD that He'll give you many chances. I hope you find the right way soon.


Philip 7 years ago

2 years ago I was dying in the ICUfrom a ruptured brain aneurysm.I was and will always be a professed Roman Catholic.less than one percent survive this form of stroke. I was one of those.all of those who prayed for me are Catholic. they offered their masses for my recovery.I had an Angel come to my side and tell me that I would live and that God had more for me to do. I believe his commandments are what we should live by.bless you sisters and brothers.


Manola Flora 7 years ago

Dear Philip I'm glad that you are alive and God does have a plan for your life and I pray you will bless many others. Whether catholics prayed for you or others, God does hear prayers from faithfull believers who pray. He says in His word in John 14:14 "You may ask me for anything in My Name and I will do it". In the bible (God's own Word) there are no religions by name, just christians followers of Jesus of believers of Jesus. Religions were man made, Jesus hated religions, He was the High Priest and He also says in His Word, to call no one father because there is only One and That's God Himself.

You are right when you say you believe in His commandments and yes if we all obeyed there wouldn't be a problem in the world. God is Love and in the New Testament He says 'A new command I give you, Love one another as I have loved you.(John 13:34) With His love in your heart you wouldn't break any of His commandments.

I was brought up a catholic and I didn't know Jesus personally until I made Him my Lord and Saviour but not in the catholic church. I know that the charismatic catholics do know but cannot practice in church especially speaking in tongues. I did belong to such a group and it was great for a while, but I couldn't hide and play church on a Sunday and break free in the group meeting. It was like lying. Now the church I go to is so true to the Word of God, I could never go back and live a lie.

You say you are and always will be a professed catholic but when one day you will meet God face to face He won't ask you what your religion is, but He will ask if you know His precious Son Jesus. I want to hear Him say, 'Well done, good and faithful servant, come and share your Master's happiness'.(Matthew 25:21)

Bless you.


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stevemasslock 7 years ago from Oklahoma

Hazel,

There are alot of people saying alot of things. Please, do just 3 things. Read the Bible. Accept Jesus as your personal Saviour, and pray to Him. Salvation is yours for the asking. It is given freely and without conditions. Jesus died on the cross once, for our past,present, and future sins.


Anita 7 years ago

I do not want to comment on this I just pray that this son of God who has just heard the conviction from the Holy Spirit to keep going. This is not going to be easy, people will talk, your parents might feel disappointed but that is why we receive Him as our personal saviour. I believe God is great and He will never let down His bride.

Pray, Read your Bible and look for a healthy fellowship. If you go in a church and you see some images remember exodus 20:4-5, If for some reasons someone tells you that you can pray through anyone else just remember 1 Tim 2:5, what about reciting the rosary (Mat.6:7), should I talk about calling a priest "father" (Mat. 23:9), and many many more facts.Pray for guidance and wait upon the Lord.He knew that the time of confusion will come and He gave us His Bible. Stick to it cause there "You will know the truth and the truth will set you free". May God bless you all. Anita


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Valerie F 7 years ago from Idaho Falls, ID

Since the Catholic Church also teaches that one must be born again by water and the Spirit, that conversion is an ongoing process involving repentance, there should be no difference between a Catholic and a born again Christian.

That being said, since various non-specific Protestant movements coopted the term for themselves to the exclusion of Catholics, there are some major doctrinal differences.

Pray. Read the Bible. Read the Catechism of the Catholic Church and see just how Biblical Catholic teachings and liturgy really are.

Oh, and when saying the Rosary, you're not supposed to just be saying a bunch of Hail Marys and Our Fathers, but meditating on the mysteries of the Rosary, which are all Biblically rooted.


Owen 7 years ago

As a former catholic, I can honestly vouch that there is a world of difference in the catholic concept of salvation and the "born again" experience of God's gracious gift of eternal life. The way I understand it, is salvation is received by faith and by grace alone. Afterall, it is a free gift and none of us can add anything to it or else it is no longer a free gift. Therefore, if one believes that one must earn it via good works or by the sacraments then the contract (covenant) is broken and I believe those will be the ones on judgment day that Jesus tells "depart from me, I never knew you." Jesus told us that a man will not see the Kingdom of God unless he is born again (John 3:3,5). Christians may be confused on many issues such as endtime events, but it is absolutely vital to be clear about the conditions for salvation.


Lover of God 7 years ago

There are lots of born again churches here in the Philippines with different church names. Now, here's the question:

1. If they worship the only one God, why would they need to be divided instead of becoming one and united? See 1 Corinthians 1: 10-13

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Manola Flora 7 years ago

Lover of God.

all born again christians are bible believing. You are right though that all who call themselves christians should be all united. I'm a born again christian once a catholic, I'm now totally devoted to God, and my catholic friends and relations don't even go to church or read the bible and still call themselves christians, but only call upon His name when they're in trouble and when things go wrong they blame God. Born again christians worship the same God, it doesn't matter which church they go to depending where they live but what matters is that once you make Jesus your Lord and Saviour, He Himself starts to change you from the inside and you will become a beautiful new creation.You don't stay the same, your spiritual eyes are opened and His peace that passes all understanding will be yours.


A good human being 7 years ago

I completely agree with Yvette, the Born Agains have digressed from the church for their own selfish reasons, it is because or these people who trying to convert people in India that innocent Roman Catholics are burnt alived (like the Stein case in Orissa). Just reading the bible or just preaching the word of God does not make you a Christian, where the gates of heaven will open up for you. It is important that you be a good human being first, after death, do you go to see (6ft below), whether you are going up or down. bottom line is you will just rot.....

so you Born Again fanatics, stop this crap about believing and this, just peep in your conscience and see how many plus and minus points you have gathered as a human being...

then talk....


Manola Flora 7 years ago

Lover of God, obviously you don't read the bible do you? We have all fallen short of the Glory of God. None of us a 'good', and good ain't gonna get you or anyone to heaven. Jesus's blood only can, He washed our sins away, He paid the debt for us, and all you have to do is believe in Him and of course once you do, you can't help but become good cause He is GOOD. Jesus also said that He was going to prepare a place for us so that we can be with Him. Now think of this, ' If God and the Word which of course was Jesus, created this incredible world and the universe in just 7 days, can you imagine it's over 2,000 years that He's gone o prepare a place for us......WOW.....can you just imagine what it's gonna be like!!!! Another thing, yes, the body rots and becomes dust again, but the living spirit of God that lives in us once you make Him your Lord and Saviour will see HIM FACE TO FACE...........WE ARE INDESTRUCTABLE....WE WERE MEANT TO LIVE FOREVER, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO DEATH.....BY THE WAY, DO YOU KNOW JESUS IS COMING AGAIN VERY SOON...........READ THE BIBLE AND TAKE NOTE OR GET SOME PROPER TEACHING, GO TO A 'BORN AGAIN' CHURCH, JESUS LIVES IN THE PRAISES OF HIS PEOPLE. I can't understand why you have this hate for us born again christians, we do all believe in the Trinity don't we, we just don't worship idols, statues that are made by men and can't even speak, God hates that, (that's also in the bible). You call yourself Lover of God, well I'm sure if you are and I don't doubt it, please ask Him to show you the right way, you know He does talk and I do hope you will hear His sweet voice and that He will guide you in the right path. He is my BEST FRIEND. ps...we're not fanatics, we are just crazy for HIM!!!


Cliff 7 years ago

I don't understand why some people here boast about their catholic religion but their language is contradictorily awful. . . One sign of becoming a true believer is in the change of your speech. . . As apostle James has said . . "Understand this, my dear brothers and sisters! Let every person be quick to listen, slow to speak, slow to anger. For human anger does not accomplish God’s righteousness. . . If someone thinks he is religious yet does not bridle his tongue, and so deceives his heart, his religion is futile" James 1:19-20, 26-27 . . . I am unashamed to be a follower of Christ! I believe Hazel that God is calling you for a greater purpose in your life! Keep the faith! keep pressing on the goal in Knowing Christ! God bless!



gina 7 years ago

i am a born catholic, but i don't beleive in confession to a priest. i confess to god .i think if you believe in god and your intentions are good than your ok with god because god knows your heart. i don't believe in giving a percentage of your pay to a church that is wrong. lets face it god said go and preach my word he did't say to charge people to hear it . god bless everyone happy holidays


Mike 7 years ago

For those who feel that being born again is some type of religious sect, then you are sadly mistaken. It is not a man made term to be born again, it was taken straight from scriptures and is the very words Jesus. He stated that for a person to enter into the Kingdom of God, that you must be born again, born again does not mean a physical rebirth but a spiritual rebirth. You first have to realize that you are a sinner and by no means are you even close to perfect and that by your own good deeds you can not get into heaven. You have to realize that the only way to get to heaven is by the blood of Jesus Christ and the fact that he died on the cross for YOUR sins and mine. You ask him to forgive your sins and change you from the inside out, and you give your life to him, you put your faith in Christ and you will be saved. Jesus said that I (Christ) am the Way, the Truth and the Life, and that no man can enter the Kingdom of God except through me. We (the born again believers) did not make this up, but it is the very words of Jesus. I pray to God that someday you will experience, for yourself what it meant to be Born Again then you would know that you have salvation through Jesus Christ and would know what a life changing experience it is. We read the Word of God so that we may know more about him (Jesus), and God the Father and his many prophets from the past. By doing so this makes us stronger in our faith and draws us closer to Jesus, we do not feel that we are better then you are or your particular religion, all we are telling you is the very words of Jesus Christ and what he has said in the scriptures, it is your choice as to what you believe as we are just messengers for Christ. If you would like to reach me send your comments to sendtomike@inbox.com


Manola Flora 6 years ago

Mike all you say is exactly what I would like to say, GOD BLESS YOU.


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christinecook 6 years ago

Hi Hazel

I think you did exactly what you wanted to do here.It does not take much to start a war,does it? Even among the faithful.


confused 6 years ago

Hazel

I'm a catholic by paper. You don't have to worry about religion. Even Jesus hated religion. What you should worry about is your relationship with God. Religion is just traditions and ritual. You don't have to be converted into another religion just to be "born again". Remember, you have to be born again spiritually. But if you really want to have a religious group, choose the one where you are comfortable with. Note, however, that you cannot find a PERFECT religion since it is all man made. They want to believe what they want to believe. Sometimes, they talk things against other religions which is not right. The most important thing here is your relationship with the Lord.


Alex 6 years ago

I have a question. I am a roman catholic and planning to marry a born again Christian. Do I need to be converted before marriage if I choose to be married by a pastor and not by a priest? I honestly respect all good teachings of all religion because if you were born in china, most likely you will worship budhha. If you're from Egypt, maybe the pharoahs. So I think we better respect each others religion because we never existed in the time of God to judge over religions but certainly there is only one God.


whoever 6 years ago

why do born again christians hate Mama Mary?????? what did She ever do to you???


IloveJesus 6 years ago

Born again christians are quite inconsistent. Some believe the old teachings of martin luther that faith alone will save as in the whole faith with no good works at all trusting in Jesus nothing else. Recently however, some born agains believe/interpret James' teaching on faith. The believe that having faith entails following Jesus' commandment of loving one another and doing good, these aspects are manifestations of your faith, if you lack one of these then you do not have faith. It creates confusion on what they should really believe.

About "Marian worship" the catholic church agrees with the born agains that it is wrong and unjustified to worship mary for she is merely a mortal who gave birth to Jesus. The reason why the catholic church however gives much emphasis to her is because she is the mother of Jesus, if Jesus is our brother and Mary is his mother and he gave Mary to John to be his mother then wouldn't that make Mary our mother?

Regarding the statement Mary mother of God, don't get us confused. We don't mean Mary the mother of the Trinity nope. Saying that is idolatrous, we mean Mary mother of God (the son). What we are trying to say is that Mary is the mother Jesus and if Jesus is God then Jesus can be called God. Therefor calling Mary mother of God is calling Mary mother of Jesus but not the whole trinity itself.

Another thing, if it is bad to make carved images of people then everyone should burn all the statues they see, they should also burn all pictures of people and everything because its idolatrous.

Another thing, if we don't need Mary or the saints to intercede for us, neither do we need one another to intercede for us. We don't need to tell eachother to pray for one another to God. We also don't need one another's help in finding things or stuff like that.. Why ask your brother to help you find your keys when you can ask God himself to help you yourself right? its "idolatrous" to ask people's help isn't it?

Going back to mother mary, if you are king and you have a mother and people jeer at your mother, wouldn't you feel bad?

Mary may be a mere mortal but you can never erase the fact that she became the mother of Jesus and because of that Jesus loves her.

Why isn't Mary mentioned in the bible much? its because she wants to point out to her son first. She doesn't want glory to herself, she wants people to go to her son directly. She just wants people to know that she loves them and that she is their mother but not a divine godess.

One of the last things i want to point out to you though is that the catholic church is christianity. Look at it, the word catholic means universal and Christianity is indeed a universal religion as it has alot of followers, it is the biggest religion at that. If a=b and b=c then wouldn't that make a=c? Furthermore, the catholic church traced its roots from the early Christian community that Jesus built. Peter became the first rock, he was succeeded by the next rock and the next rock. The rock is now called pope. Imagine how weird it is to say Rock John XIII ??? that sounds quite weird. Since born again Christians branched out of catholicsm then they are a sect of christianity, it doesn't mean that the catholic church is a sect because it is the longest or oldest among the sects, it is therefore Christianity itself by virtue of history. Look if you used to have a house and some people moved out, their house a sect of a house but it doesn't mean that that house becomes a sect of itself at that.

Just understand that the catholic church is a very strong church for its stood for thousands of years. Why get away from it? Don't say that it is because it has mistakes, because it fixed all its mistakes already.

I hope you understand the catholic churches' view. I am not forcing you to stay catholic i am just explaining the views of the catholic church that are normally misunderstood


Anonymous 6 years ago

You "born agains" are just a bunch of pussies. At least we Catholics have to confess our sins, out loud, to another person in order to receive absolution. You get to do anything you want, say you're sorry in your head, then do it all over again anytime you want. In my experience the "born agains" that I know have the following things in common:

They were brainwashed by their born again parents-then they go nuts when they finally get out of the house.

They did something in their life that so freaked them out that they turn to becoming "born again" instead of manning up and making amends and facing the concequences of their actions.

They are metally ill. They hear voices..they are schizophrenic.

If you claim to love Jesus and want to follow His example, then you must love the poor, the sick, the elderly, and everybody else-AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF. So, all of you so called "born again" "Christians" that vote Republican, vote for execution by the state, and look down on your less fortunate neighbors...you're all going to hell.


Trixz 6 years ago

To Gina:

We are not paying when we give our tithes and offerings. We are doing this because of love of Jesus. In fact if you don’t have money, you can offer anything you have like for example your talent. You can share anything that God gave you, to show your love for him. Offering of money is a very common way of a sacrifice as it may be a way to reach other people to teach and spread the word of Jesus Christ.

To Others:

We didn't say we hate Mary, but it's just that some of the Catholics worship Mary and all the burdens they have are being asked to Mary. Some of the Catholics even give importance to Mary almost equal to Jesus which shouldn't be. Regarding carving of images, you may do it if you want to. However some of the Catholics even worship, cry, and kiss those statues. Yes don't deny it, you know that some of the Catholics even kiss the feet of your statues... right? Why do you need to do that? For us Christians, we don't say that it's a religion... instead Christians means believers of Christ. And we don't raise any religion, instead we promote everyone to have a real relationship with Jesus Christ. Whatever religion or group that you are into, it doesn’t matter. What matters is your relationship to God. These groups or religions in the first place, should actually be used as an instrument only to guide and help you to have a better understanding of the His word. If you are into those groups that teach the wrong words, and doesn’t follow what is written in the bible, then for sure you will be mislead. So to sum it up, read the bible and pray. Pray like you are talking to your daddy. Be His son, and cast all unto Him.


Jmart 6 years ago

To others: Whether your a Roman Catholic or a Born Again Christian, what matters most is your "personal Relationship with God." make a devotion of Reading the Bible...because the Word will set you Free.


rootsman 6 years ago

Hazel,

I grew up as an atheist, but "received Christ" in a charismatic church 20 years ago. This was a good thing to do, and I never regret doing that.

However, after several years, I learned that a lot of the theology and spirituality within these "born-again" churches are very different from each other and sometimes plainly wrong.

Therefore, I decided to dig into history to find the roots of christianity, to understand the origin as well as the interpretation of the Bible, and check the consistency of church dogma throughout history.

The result of this journey is that I have decided to become Catholic, and I will anter the Church Jesus founded in the near future.

If you are born and baptized as a Catholic, you are really blessed, and I urge you to really study your faith.

By the way, when Jesus said that nicodemus needed to be "born again", he was talking about the christian baptism, according to the early church, and according to scripture.


Jules 6 years ago

I can't help but feel that all you people are brainwashed. Spewing this rehearsed Jesus is my friend nonsense. You think the new testament is enlightening? Try a science book. I'd rather worship Galileo any day.


simplelang 6 years ago

Born-again Christians tend to take the easy route by coverting Catholics because they're afraid of converting Muslims. Those former Catholics are the most gullible people you'll ever meet. Good riddance.


concerned 6 years ago

I say this to all "born agains" who believe its the only way. What makes YOU think you are right, after all born again Christianity is a fairly new thing. What makes you think that the disciples of Jesus were wrong in starting the Catholic Church? The teachings of God were fresh in their mind, they walked with him! So now, all of a sudden Born again Christianity comes up, thousands of years later, and you believe that you're the only way. You can not alter a religion to make it fit what YOU believe. Christianity is in black and white, Catholicism was the first Church, and in my eyes, one of the only relevant ones.

I know many born agains, and they try to convert other Christians (Mainly Catholics) into born agains. Why? Why waste your time on people who already see the truth and accept Jesus Christ as their savior? Why not go for someone who is Jewish, or Muslim? I've asked many times, what is a born again Christian? And I get answers like "People who accept Jesus Christ as their only savior" And I say, well I do, what makes you different from me?

Half the time, they can't answer that question, or they'll come up with something weird like "you guys praise Mary"

Mary is NOT God. We believe in ONE God. The Catholics that convert into born again Christianity do so because they do not know the full context of what being a Catholic is. They don't understand Catholicism, and born agains target those people. I dare them target anyone who is not weary in their religion. It won't happen. They go for the ones going through a crisis in their life. So only when a person is weak and vulnerable do they jump on the oppurtunity.

And with that, I say, to each their own. This division of Christianity is so much further from what Jesus Christ wanted us to do its ridiculous. There was one Church in the beginning, and that was the Catholic Church......just a thought.


Christian brother 6 years ago

I am a catholic and I have a personal relationship with Jesus. I have repented my sins directly to Jesus, I invited the holy ghost to live inside me and to direct my paths. I don't like statues, nor confessing to the priest. I confess directly to Jesus who is my Lord and Savior. I don't put much into this "Born Again Christian" title. When people ask me what is my religion, I only tell them that I am a follower of Jesus Christ and that I have a deep personal relationsship with him. Can someone email me and tell me if I am right or wrong as a catholic. God Bless

sablanj@hotmail.com


Trixz 6 years ago

You're right Christian brother. Though I'm a Born Again, as I've said these groups may just be used to guide us. What matters most is your personal relationship to Jesus Christ. The word "you must be born again" in the bible is for those who are walking in the dark before (living without relationship to Jesus) and want to change his/her life. You were born physically into this world, but you were born without the Spirit of God in your soul (spiritually dead). Yes,God created you,but He gave you a freewill to decide for yourself. Religion has nothing to do with this, Jesus must be raised and no other group/persona...


Rosie 6 years ago

I am not going to preach because I am not particularly religious, but I like to think I am a good person and respect others. I am sorry but what I cannot believe is that there are people on here; supposedly "religious" people and excuse my language 'bitching' about what others choose to believe... i think everyone should follow their own path, you do not need to worry about what someone elses path is. I love the baz lurman song...'Don’t be reckless with other people’s hearts, don’t put up with people who are reckless with yours...'

'...the race is long, and in the end, it’s only with yourself''


Andrea 6 years ago

I just wanted to add something. I'm a Catholic. I haven't always been a Catholic. I was born to a Catholic family, baptized and raised in the Catholic Church. When I grew up, I questioned. I flitted between different types of spiritual beliefs including (but not limited to) Protestant, Buddhist, Jewish and Pagan. It took many years of my spiritual journey to find my way back home to the Catholic Church.

Mary should be an example to us all. Whether she was a virgin is not important (although, documentation on early Christian belief clearly shows the earliest generations of Christians believe she was a perpetual virgin). Her importance to us all is she said "YES". She could have said "No" and that would have been the end of it but she said "Yes". Just as we say "Yes" to God and Jesus.

Regarding images and statues, I sit here now staring at a photograph of someone I have been praying for who is in the hospital. It is comforting to have something to focus on when I pray but I can't answer for others. Also, early Christian art and carvings are full of images. A lot of early Christians were illiterate and the imagery were the only sources they had of stories from the bible and stories of saints who were examples of what being Christian is truly about. That tradition has continued to modern times.

I'm not saying that Catholic's are right and everyone else is wrong. God gives us choice. But Catholics could not be completely wrong because why are there so many Catholic saints that are incorruptible (that means, people who have died but their bodies have not decomposed). Why have unexplained miracles happened at places that have had manifestations of Mary? But I digress.

Also, food for thought, whenever scripture is mentioned in the New Testament most of the New Testament documents did not exist so Jesus and his followers were referring to scripture that we know as the Old Testament.


manola flora 6 years ago

after reading the comments,I can't help but think there are more confused people out there that truly love God, but just don't know where they are going. Here it goes!....There are no catholics in the bible, just CHRISTIANS again I say when we face God He won't be asking what RELIGION are you, he hates religions. He will be asking, do you know my son Jesus who died to save you. Another thing, there are no saints that made miracles even mother Mary because she as well as others was human. Who you call saints were wonderful people full of the Holy Spirit but they are DEAD and the the dead cannot do miracles.Jesus is the only one who has resurrected from the dead and is ALIVE!!! They will receive their reward one blessed day and their crowns. Mary was a blessed woman who was the chosen one to be the mother of Jesus and born again's don't hate her, why should we she was obedient to God and we honour her and love her, but don't worship her, we only worship God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, which we know as the Holy Trinity, one thing we have in common with catholics.If christians could get it the only way to salvation is to make Jesus your Lord and Saviour, repent for your sins, not to tell aloud to another human being who is also a sinner, but straight to the Father in Heaven. When I was a catholic, not by choice but brought up that way, I could sin, go to confession and then do it all again, because then, I didn't have a personal relationship with Him. Now that I do, I repent but choose not to do it again because I don't want to, I feel convicted and don't want to hurt Jesus after what He's done for me. I love Him so much and want to be more like Him. As for "Christian Brother", you're ok, sound ok to me, but because of what you believe and confessed, you are a born again believer, catholic or not you are a new creation in Christ Jesus. It's good to fellowship with people that have the same attitute. I used to be told that if I was a catholic I had to believe in all church rules, well, I'm glad now it's just Jesus that rules my life and He can do anything He wants to increase His Kingdom, the road is narrow that leads to Him. Please stop this confusion and just focus on what's important, JESUS AND HIS SAVING POWER, THERE IS NO ONE ELSE THAT CAN EVER COMPARE TO HIM. HE'S MY LIGHT AND MY SALVATION, MY LIFEGIVER AND MY EVERYTHING. Boy am I glad I know Him personally.


Leah Borg 6 years ago

Flora you have read my mind. What makes all of us ignorant is not reading the entire Bible from beginning to end try it and see how the truth shall set you free.

Don't rely on man to teach you receive teaching from the Almighty himself. Ask for wisdom and he will give freely. I am lost without JESUS!!!!


Manola Flora 6 years ago

Leah you are so right, if we ask for Godly wisdom He will give freely, I ask every day in all situations and He never fails to give. How precious is our Jesus!! Where would we be without Him.


Simplelang 6 years ago

Catholics don't worship Mary period. If you born-agains keep on insisting that then you're the one who is confused and that's your problem. Yes you are right there is no Catholic in the Bible so does the word Protestants, Anglicans, Mormons, Methodists, Aglipay, Iglesia ni Cristo and so forth. The lack of respect to other people's belief and being judgmental towards a particular religion in order to recruit a new member is truly an unchristian practise. Jesus never gave any specific instructions towards His followers to judge others. Jesus said "Love one another" and yet as a Catholic all you get from Born-Agains is contempt.


pam  6 years ago

Jesus,bring relationship to God not a religion,according to the Word of God,John3:1-7 that unless one is born again you cannot see the Kingdom of God. when you read the word of God it's clearly state that when you pray don't use any repetition word. and that's the roman catholic doing, have you heard yourself reciting the Hail Mary, why are you asking for the help of mary .when you know your God you can directly pray to Him and ask God what you need. don't use bubbly word when you pray.


simplelang 6 years ago

Why use the same arguments to recruit Catholics?


Manola Flora 6 years ago

simplelang please read your bible, the true Word of God! Pam definitely does! No one is recruiting anyone only the Holy Spirit can open people's spiritual eyes and I pray yours will open too. Read your bible and you will read that Jesus said you need to be born again. There are no religion names in the word of God, just christians, believers in Christ, our Saviour.


simplelang 6 years ago

My eyes are open and Jesus Christ is my ONLY Savior and I knew that since I was a child. It's only you born agains that accuse us otherwise through your repetitive arguments. My bible says you must be born from above and I'm not going to force you to accept that. God will judge me base on the good things I did to my brothers and sisters regardless of race and beliefs not on mere technicalities of our faith. I use my bible as a guide during my temporary stay in this world and I will never ever use it as a license to judge anyone just because their belief is different from mine. I will not cast the first stone to anyone because I am a sinner. Pray for world peace and for men to respect one another until then there will be no argument. Shalom.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan

Very good article, I wrote one on why I am no longer Catholic that you might find useful. God Bless

http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Why-I-Am-N...


mangy 6 years ago

just like you, I am afraid that my parents will get mad at me. But "do not fear" is 365 times written in the bible. So don't be scared. Jesus is with us. That's part of following Him...^^


Rosemarie 6 years ago

Some critics maintain that the Catholic Church doesn't go by the Bible, and therefore, any Bible-believing Christian must leave it. But, in fact, the Catholic Church does go by the Bible, by an in-depth understanding of the Bible. The problem is that most Catholics are Biblically illiterate, although our faith is based on deep Biblical understanding. In the past, this gap was bridged by trusting in the pastor and church authorities, but this doesn't always work in our times. At this point, Catholics desperately need accelerated Bible study to bridge the gap and understand their faith. Otherwise, they will become confused and possibly lose their faith.

I believe the Catholic Church is the most Biblical of all churches. But you must know your Bible well to recognize this. The Catholic Church, unlike any other Christian group, has been able to teach and apply such Biblical teachings as the Eucharist, gospel poverty, and celibacy. It has strongly opposed divorce, abortion, and artificial birth control. All these Biblically-based teachings are extremely important because they deal with worship, life, death, sexuality, family, life-style, and ultimately the lordship of Jesus over our practical everyday lives. But the Catholic Church has its blind spots, especially in the area of Biblical finances. The Catholic Church will always be incomplete without learning from Protestants and other groups. Also, Protestants need to learn from Catholics. One part of Christ's body can't say to another part: "I do not need you" (1 Cor 12:21).

Even though the Catholic Church is very Biblical, many Catholic churches, especially in the United States and Europe, are not feeding their people spiritually. The question arises: "Should I leave the Catholic Church if I'm not being fed?" The answer is "No." The Church is not a restaurant but a relationship with brothers and sisters in Jesus. We shouldn't divorce our wives if they don't cook, so we shouldn't leave our pastors if they don't feed us. But, we don't have to starve to death. We can supplement our spiritual diet with Christian books, tapes, TV, radio, retreats, and special services. Then we can stay in our church and be a light and a leaven of renewal.

This also applies to a church that is stifling the Spirit. Why should those open to the Spirit move while others stay? "There is One greater in you than there is in the world" (1 Jn 4:4). Whether or not we are the pastor or among the official leaders of the Church is not the question. We have authority over evil spirits in Jesus' name. We can move mountains by the prayer of faith. If we can't claim Jesus' victory in the Catholic Church, we won't be able to claim it in the world, at work, or in the home. By faith let's hold our ground.

With a profound respect for Christians of all denominations, realizing the evils in the Catholic Church, and knowing personally how difficult it is to revive "dry bones," by faith I thank God that I'm a Catholic Christian. I thank Him for the rich spiritual treasures of the Catholic community, and I ask for the grace to be healed of "church hurts" and to love unconditionally the Catholic Church and all followers of Jesus Christ.

MARY—WHO IS SHE IN GOD'S PLAN? "When the designated time had come, God sent forth His Son born of a woman." —Galatians 4:4 Catholics and the Orthodox maintain Mary is the most important human being in God's plan, except for her Son, the God-Man, Jesus. Others think that by honoring Mary we take away from the worship of Jesus. However, Catholics and the Orthodox say Mary will lead a person to Jesus, just as all good Christians try to lead their friends to the Lord. After all, Mary's last recorded words in the Bible were: "Do whatever He (Jesus) tells you" (Jn 2:5). What is Mary's part in God's plan? Does she mother, minister, and intercede today?

MOTHER'S DAY

"The angel answered her: 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; hence, the holy Offspring to be born will be called Son of God.' " —Luke 1:35

the teachings about Mary depend on two Biblical revelations about her motherhood. Mary is God's mother as she is the mother of Jesus Who is God (Lk 1:32, 35). She is also our Mother by adoption because Jesus told her to take John and the disciples of all time as her children (Jn 19:26).

Mary is not just the average person; she is God's mother, having conceived Jesus by the overshadowing of the Holy Spirit. If we understand God's holiness and the intimacy of the Holy Spirit with Mary in conceiving Jesus, we see that Jesus' incarnation presupposes that Mary was immaculate from the beginning of her life. Because Mary was free from sin, she was free from the wages of sin, that is, death (Rm 6:23). Thus her immaculate conception implies her assumption into heaven. This does not take away from the glory of her Son or imply she did not need to be redeemed (see Lk 1:47). In fact, it is an even greater victory for Jesus. Pope Pius XII taught: "Wherefore, the infinite dignity of Jesus Christ and His office of universal redemption is not diminished or lowered by this tenet of doctrine, rather it is greatly increased" (On the Immaculate Conception, p. 5). In the Bible, Mary is called "full of grace" and "blessed among women" (Lk 1:28, 42, 45). We have begun to appreciate how blessed and graced she was and why "all ages to come" shall call her blessed (Lk 1:48).

Because of Jesus' resurrection victory over death, her mothering is not stopped by her passing from this life to heaven. Mary's "unique," "preeminent," "singular," and yet very human place in God's plan of salvation is not only for two thousand years ago but for today (Vatican II, The Church, 53). While Jesus was hanging on the cross He told mother Mary to adopt John and the disciples of all time as her children. Mary obeyed her Son and she mothers us until the present day. Now we must obey Him by accepting and honoring her as our mother, thereby obeying the fourth commandment (Ex 20:12). This commandment carries with it the promise that it will go well with us and we will have a long life (Eph 6:3). This applies both to our natural parents and our adoptive mother. By honoring mother Mary we claim God's precious promises.

DON'T DESPISE PROPHECIES (1 Thes 5:20)

"Seek eagerly after love. Set your hearts on spiritual gifts—above all, the gift of prophecy." —1 Corinthians 14:1

We know Mary is still mothering us by what the Spirit has taught us concerning John 19:25-27 and also by the Spirit's gift of prophecy. For example, when Isaiah prophesied: "The virgin shall be with Child, and bear a Son, and shall name Him Immanuel" (Is 7:14), probably no one understood this to mean that a virgin would conceive without sexual relations. But the Spirit later revealed this through Matthew: "He (Joseph) had no relations with her at any time before she bore a Son, Whom he named Jesus" (Mt 1:23, 25). The Spirit has taken other Bible passages and given them a prophetic meaning concerning Mary (e.g. Gn 3:15; Rv 12:1). These prophecies have been tested by Christian communities across the world for centuries (see 1 Jn 4:1) and therefore are among the most confirmed and tested prophecies in the history of Christianity. They help us further appreciate Mary's special mothering role in God's plan of salvation. Micah prophesied, "Therefore the Lord will give them up, until the time when she who is to give birth has borne" (Mi 5:2).

MOTHER OF THE CHURCH

"Simeon blessed them and said to Mary His mother: 'This Child is destined to be the Downfall and the Rise of many in Israel, a Sign that will be opposed—and you yourself shall be pierced with a sword—so that the thoughts of many hearts may be laid bare.' " —Luke 2:34-35

As the Spirit overshadows our understanding by teaching us His word and pouring out the gift of prophecy, we become more aware of how Mary continues to mother the church. The titles of Mary are usually prophetic statements about aspects of her mothering. As Sorrowful Mother, she has the gift to lay bare the thoughts of many hearts. As Our Lady Of Perpetual Help, she exercises a powerful intercessory ministry (Jn 2:3).


Manola Flora 6 years ago

Read all of psalm 91, in verse 14 "because he loves me" says the Lord, "I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name. He will call upon me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will deliver him and honour him, With long life will I satisfy him and show him my salvation." It's got nothing to do with a mother. Mary was a blessed woman, giving birth to Jesus which God allowed through the Holy Spirit, after she had Jesus she 'laid' with Joseph and had other children, she didn't stay a virgin. You read the bible you should know right? As much as we honour Mary there is nothing in the bible to say about her being the mother of the church. We just need to keep our eyes on Jesus and focus on Him only, He's the only one that gave His life to save us. NO ONE ELSE, Mary was obedient and what a blessed woman she was and always will be. God is a BIG GOD OUR FATHER we don't need to put anyone else first, JUST GOD THE FATHER THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, and please get catholics to read the bible GOD'S TRUE WORD to a dying world.


clark 6 years ago

Guys, please stop arguing. lets just talk about this using the Word of God(Bible). To whom will you believe, the one who adds something in the Bible, or to the one who does not put or erase something in the Bible? It means that something is wrong with them that they disobeyed God's words. All of us are not perfect to knew perfectly the word of God, but I believe that God will guide us.We born again are not angry at Catholics beliefs. Don't just point this things up to Mary. There are many other things that has been taught but such as purgatory venial sins. Its okay to us that you'll stay in catholics, but be sure you're not missing something that is written in the Bible. I believe that there is no perfect church for we are not perfect. But we know that church is the Body of Christ and we need the church in fellowship. So lets be in the church we're we can build a body by the Holy Spirit. Thats all, sorry guys I'm not used in speaking english. Thats all I can

We love you all.

God bless you all.


Manola Flora 6 years ago

Well said "Clark"....You're English is ok, got your point, well said! Let's all speak the language of LOVE, Our Father God's only language. Peace to all.


Winilyn Atiwag 6 years ago

when i read those comment here,im thinking why our lots of brothers here don't accept corrections,im so glad that we are cncerned about what the bible says and some of us read the bible twice,its not that way that even you read the verses fr. the bible f u don't hav the knowledge,undrstanding and acceptance then it is useless,its bec,of the pride in your heart that even u know the truth,u are keepng on insisting that ur right for what u choose,its bec,of the pride in u,u are covering the mistkes of your church its bec,u use to grow and live with it.....When Jesus died at the cross,2 bandits was in His right and left side,focuse to that man hu is in His right,he told Jesus remember me when you came into your kingdom..in ader term in paradise,that man talk to Jesus directly,just like what we do when we ask something to God,Mama mary is also ther at that tym,did you ever heard Jesus tel that first you ask to my mother b4 me!never....even a single word but Jesus riplied and said,today you will be with me in paradise,its clear,when jesus prayed to His Father,did He ask it 1st to mary?not a single word,im hoping one of that proves make your mind awake fr.being asleep yet wer not the same in undrstanding but pls my brethren,if you are a true believr of Christ then you accept the corrections of our brother,those hu accept it and humble themselves are wise and they will lifted up,lots of things i wantd to share....were not doing this to make our religion up,wer not looking for it,but what we trying to express to xplain is the right biliefs,wer not looking for your weaknesses unles wer trying to make you more mold and better fr.God sight,yet we know that ther is so many things to point in your religion{catholic}u know what im talking about and i don't like to mentiond it,..go and travel,one of the most popular catholic church in Phillipines is at manila in Quipo then observ wat is happening ther,they are all lack of knowledge and i feel pitty 4 them;kissing statues,dating to ther boyfriends and even smoking is allowed,even the artist whu make movies go ther to do there parts of ther cenima,church is not just a church to do wat ever you want,church is the house of God and we must respect it..i prayd to God to 4gv them 4 ther innocent,they may not listen to us but i know someday God will touch ther hearts..when im was applyng cyprus,i was stayd at the agency 4 2 month,all of them are catholics,im alone whu is the born gain there,every day they play poker or cards by ther money,when about tym that they nid to pray,they col me to joined them,i go and sit wid them even i don't want ther way of praying,repeating the words mama mary,i don't even want to join to them cos the way i pray and the way they pray is so diff..w,but i show some respect,when they finished i go to my room and pray to my own way,sam of them follow me and make noise,laughing and dis2rbing me,im so annoyed 4 what they act,and start asking me why u born agains raise ur hand when your praying,crying and so and so on,i anser them and said bec, we are filled by the holly spirit,they are quite maybe they don't undrstand wat im trying to say..i ask them when they go to there church,u go just to sit?the reason y we nid to go to church is to be mold more,to make our faith more stronger and to hav the fellowship to our fellow brethrens,i remember i had a friend b4 and she ask me to go wid them 4 a date,i ask where and she said in the catholic church,so im thinking they go to church to hav a date to ther boyfriends and not to God,they can do anything they want in catholic.drunking,smoking,speak in bad words,anthing,.its better the man hu don't know God and doing good,than a man hu says God is my saviour but rejecting His laws is morthan a sinner..


simplelang 6 years ago

Winilyn,

It's called "to each his own". All of us are sinners in this world and nobody is exempted from it. Why would a sinner dare to call another person a sinner?


winilyn 6 years ago

as u said my sis.Jesus died 4 us to make us clean...if we really bound to God then we begin to hate sins,emoral thing,and ,we must obey his word,by the way i hate sin,.Godbless


fred 6 years ago

respect the faith of others... explore your own faith, don't just jump and jump to other "religion"... respect your parents as God respect them... understand what you are praying... those are just some ways in building personal relation with God...

John 13:34-35

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."


Manola Flora 6 years ago

Winilyn, I get your point, and yes you are right about being different, and yes you're right about if we really are bound to God then we do hate sin and we do obey Him and also hate sin. We are all sinners but the good thing is that He has forgiven us, He dealt with our sin on the cross and we can go to Him only to Him JESUS and He forgives us because He loves us so much. I have most of my family and friends who do not know Him as I know Him and they think I've flipped, but I just pray for them and hope that the Holy Spirit touches them like He touched me and made me a new person, thanks to His mighty Grace and Mercy. God bless you.

PS....By the way Fred, just letting you know that Jesus hates RELIGIONS.........there should only be one christian church maybe you should read 'Acts' again.

There is no mention of any religion titles. Just a group of people who worshipped the Lord. And building a personal relation with God is first to invite His Son into your life, your heart and soul and that's when the relationship becomes real.


Manola Flora 6 years ago

simplelang

We are forgiven sinners because the precious Blood of Jesus washed us clean and because of that we are new creations, thank God for that!


simplelang 6 years ago

Manola Flora,

Who are you pertaining in the word "We"? If you are saying that all of those who believe in Jesus then I will agree with you. If you are going to particularly exclude Catholics from what you just said and justify that exclusion by nitpicking our beliefs then what'sthe point of your comment. Sinners forgiven or unforgiven, don't have the right to judge other sinners because Jesus nor God commanded it!


Manola Flora 6 years ago

Simplelang,

By 'we' I do mean all of those who believe in Jesus. I'm not excluding catholics. If anyone truly believes in Jesus, then you must walk in His Ways. When I was a catholic no one ever told me to invite Jesus in my heart, and when I did (in a born-again church) He had my permission that's when He started to do some housework in my heart and my life changed from then on. He wants to clean us up and make us holy because He is Holy, you just don't stay the same. All my friends and relatives have seen the change in me and I know that the difference was when Jesus came to live in me. I just wish more priests in the catholic church would lead people in the 'sinner's prayer' and so making Jesus their Lord and Saviour and what a wonderful change there would be in people's heart. No more bitterness, no more anger no more lies, no more swearing and I can go on and on, the Holy Spirit convicts and that's when you know you want to live like Jesus.

There are a lot of catholics who love Jesus but there are many who put saints before Him and there's nothing in God's Word, the Bible that even mentions saints. But it does say anything you ask in my Son Name, I will give you.


Sylveir 6 years ago

Bible says: Except a man be born again, he or she can not see the kingdom of God. Or is this not written in the Roman Catholic Bible???

John 3:3

In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again. "

John 3:2-4 (New International Version)

2He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."

3In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.

God bless you.


Simplelang 6 years ago

Manola Flora,

I'm happy to what you have found & nobody can take that away from you. Different strokes for different folks as they say. At the end of the day we don't have to rely on the priests or pastors in order to know the goodness of Jesus. We were given the freewill by our Father as to how we let His Son rule our lives. It us alone that makes that decision to open that door. Manola, we maybe different on how we see things let's not dwell on it. My discussions with you made me realize how challenging Jesus'last command is "Love one another". I guess that's where you begin to know Jesus is working when you see the goodness of a person who's very much different from you. I know our common ground is only Jesus.


Erwin Rodolfo 6 years ago

Hey Guys, one thing I can is that when I'm still a roman catholic I'm powerless. When someone is get sicked we rely on the medicine. But when I become Born Again Christian and have personal relationship with Jesus Christ and accept Him as my personal Savior, Lord, God and healer of my life. God gave me powers to perform miracles and wonders. Such as powers to cast out evil spirits, powers to heal sickness, powers to change wheather conditions powers over the rain, sun and wind. Powers to drive away powerful storms. Yes, I'm powerful now I can stopped and drive away powerful storms in the name of Jesus Christ. Many times I saved my City from devastating powerful storms. That is the advantage of being Born Again Christians. I'm not again Roman Catholic because I'm Catholic before.


Erwin Rodolfo 6 years ago

Hey Guys, one thing I can say about being a Born Again Christian and Roman Catholic. Is that when I'm still a roman catholic I'm powerless, I have no powers. When someone is get sicked we rely on the medicine and doctors But when I become Born Again Christian and have personal relationship with Jesus Christ and accept Him as my personal Savior, Lord, God and healer of my life. When someone in our family get sicked I commanded the evil sickness to get out of the body of my loved ones and not to return again. The sickness immediately obeyed my command and he leaves the body of my loved ones. I practice these every time my loved get sicked, but now the my loved are not get sicked any more. Because the evil sickness knew that I have the power to cast them out so they not return again to attack my loved ones. God gave me powers to perform miracles and wonders. Such as powers to cast out evil spirits, powers to heal sickness, powers to change wheather conditions powers over the rain, sun and wind. Powers to drive away powerful storms. Yes, I'm powerful now I can stopped and drive away powerful storms in the name of Jesus Christ. Many times I saved my City from devastating powerful storms when I successfully drive away from powerful storms. That is the advantage of being Born Again Christians. But being a Born Again Christians it makes me closer to God and become more powerful than any other human being lives in this world. When I commanded and tell the strong rains to stopped, the rain immediately stopped its raining. The rain obeyed my words. Because I believe that through Jesus Christ I can perform miracles and wonders. When I still Roman Catholic I don't read the Holy Bible but when I become Born Again I always read the Holy Bible, I read the words of God everyday. I speak Words of God every day, day and night What I an say about Roman Catholic is that, I'm not again Roman Catholic because I'm Catholic before. But i choose to become Born Again Christians because it is my decisions. Kindly visit my site in www.google.com and www.yahoo.com, type Erwin the Immortal. I invited all of you also to add me in your Facebook accounts., my facebook accounts are erwin_theimmortal3000@yahoo.com, erwin_theimmortal870@yahoo.com and erwin_theimmortal781@yahoo.com., My Friendster accounts are erwin_theimmortal2000@yahoo.com and erwin_ageless@yahoo.com., My space account is erwin_theimmortal1111@yahoo.com. Thanks.


Erwin Rodolfo 6 years ago

Guys, when I still Roman Catholic, my family are terrorized by un seen forces (the evil one). I thought that God allowed terrible things to happens in my family. But when I become Born Again Christian I find out that God is not responsible in the terrible things, sickness and troubles that comes to our family. It is the devil who bring troubles and sickness to my family. The Holy Bible says, the devil came to steal, kill and destroy. - John 10:10...But now the devil no longer attack us because I defeated them in the battle thru the powers gave my by Lord Jesus Christ. I won many battles against demons and evil spirits. I successfully drive them out. And I thank my victorious against evil spirits thru our Lord Jesus Christ. Thanks be unto God that give us powers thru our Lord Jesus Christ.


Manola Flora 6 years ago

Erwin Rodolfo

I looked into one of your sites, you are a very mixed up boy. "ufo's, astra travel, and so on".......please ask God to help you see the truth. It's all about Jesus not us. Don't use Jesus to glorify yourself please.


win.. 6 years ago

rodolfo.. panoorin mo ung'left behind'movie part one-three..u know lots about bible and u consider yourself born again also but im not agree about what you've said,i don't feel that your one of us,don't be proud,jesus is the only one who deserves glory and honor,who can perform true miracles,..i look ure pict..obviously,,..GOd give you more wisdom to analize what your really doing..


S.B 6 years ago

Fistly - i'm certain that there are alot of good catholics out there that will go to heaven. But how can you say you have a personal relationship with God when the only communication you have with him is through a priest or saying a repiticious prayer?

And to the person who said "born agains are pusssies because they only have to confess in their head when catholics have to say it outloud", isn't confessing to God the only thing you have to care about? The only thing that matters is what God thinks about you, not a Priest in another room.

The bible clearly says that you must be BORN AGAIN to receive eternal life. You're arguments simply defy straight scripture!

I aplogogise on behalf of all born again Christians that said horrible things about other faiths, or thought they were better than others because they were born again. But trust me, there are plenty of Catholics that so that as well, so don't try to use that as your only point.

All in all, don't just take it from me - read through your bible and see what is says for yourself. You'll only be happy with your choice if its your own, not what some randoms off a blog told you.


S.B 6 years ago

p.s, how can you tell us not to be proud of the fact that we have a personal relationship & eternal life with the saviour Jesus Christ? We don't think we're better than any of them, or that we're better people, but we do beleive they are leaving that being born again is a gift that they are leaving unopened.


w_Rakizta.. 6 years ago

Anyway,im not going to argue about this anymore...Matthew 28;19-20.GO therefore and make disciples of all nations, babtizing them in the name of the Father and of the son and of the holy spirit,and teaching them to obey everything i have commanded you.And remember i am with you always to the very end of the age..Our mission is to preach the gospel,and its the work of the holy spirit to touch them..Praise God 4 everything,He gave us freedom to choose what is best,and the best that we can give is to offer our lives holy and acceptable to him..I love you all,Godbless..


lisa 6 years ago

I feel so many people base their thoughts of God and what His word says on statements that human beings have made. People are not perfect and a walk with God is a progressive thing. I can honestly say that when i first became born again i was very judgemental towards people who did not believe the way i did, but there was a lot of other factors that played a role in my thought process. i had to have my mind renewed and get grounded in the love of God. I have gone through so many changes in how i think but no matter how i felt or what I believed to be true the word of God did not change. It was always there always the same i just needed time to see the truth. I was brought up catholic and really did think that being a good person was good enough. The bible says we can not be good enough. The first thing that went through my mind was just plain pride. Then i would try to reason things out and try to figure out how i can be good enough but i just got more mad. Then i prayed and the truth came -just accept it-basically it's like God said just accept the fact that I said believe in my son Jesus Christ and i will see you through Him. Its haman nature to try to figure things out and to try to be "a good person" but Gods plan was bigger then that .He ,not us, provided a way not by us doing everything right or being perfect but by the sacrifice He made for us. That truth is what changes you and sets you free and propels you to love one another. Sometimes we make it harder then it has to be just read His word and believe what He says and face the fact that He knows best.


alphonce 6 years ago

what is the evidence that you are not communicating to God don't be be lured of miracles God answers people prayers in different ways..............


alphonce 6 years ago

what is the evidence that you are not communicating to God don't be be lured of miracles God answers people prayers in different ways..............


dee 6 years ago

I just read a great book called "Crying Wisdom" by Salvatore Capaccio. He speaks about growing up as a catholic, being forced to do the 'confirmation' thing but not knowing what it was all about (except that you got a party and made lots of money) and then later in life discovering what it is like to be born again. I can't say I agree with all of his points, but this book has enlightened me by depicting the differences between the teachings of the catholic church & being born again.


Fat 6 years ago

People that says or disgrace Catholics are those who are ignorant of the Catholic Faith. My advised for all of you (Protestant and Catholics and the rest) is before you make bad comment, investigate first. Protestant believe in the SOLA SCRIPTURA, that is the main reason why there are a lot of christian sects. Most of them has interpreted the bible differently hence come up with conflicting doctrines with each others.

Catholics follow certain tradition of interpreting the text in the bible. Any Catholics will not interpret the bible on their own but rely on the magisterium of the church interpretation. Protestant that come up with a different interpretation of the bible is simply creating a new tradition of interpreting a text.

Why I prefer to rely on the Catholic tradition and authority of interpreting the bible? Simply because the same tradition is being used to recognized the doctrine of TRINITY and the NATURE OF CHRIST (GODMAN) and the most important of all, the same TRADITION AND AUTHORITY used to decide what books comprised the bible. If you doubt that TRADITION and AUTHORITY then you must also doubt your bible.

If you find relationship with Christ in one of the protestant sect then good for you. But don't reasoned that your Catholic before and you did not find it there. Because it seems to the ignorant audience that Catholic don't offer personal relationship with Christ and teaches the opposite.

No religion can saved a person, only God. Don't blame specific religion because of your ignorance of their real teaching that you think hinders you of having a personal relationship with Christ. Investigate first before making judgement.


gina 6 years ago

Born again christians are brain washed. I know this for a fact. My ex boyfriend decided he wanted to convert to a born again. we were together for 7 years. we were both catholic. Well let me tell you he totally changed . All he ever did was preach to me. He wanted me to convert also, but I wouldn't. He gave a percentage of his pay to this religion. This totally put a strain on our relationship. I ended up ending our relationship. Because I just couldn't take it any more. That's the thing with these born agains,they think God loves them more, that they are holier and they try to make you feel like your not good enough for God. Listen people God loves everyone the same and he see's through the heart. And as far as Mary goes she is a very important part of my life. She is the mother of Jesus. She suffered so much,seeing her son nailed to the cross, for our sins. We can all be born again just by speaking to God and meaning it . We certainly don't have to change religion! Pastors and priests read from the Bible. Everyone can do that themselves.

God Bless..


Manola Flora 6 years ago

GINA............I'm so glad your ex-boyfriend is SAVED!!!!!!!!!! Praise be to God, sorry you got rid of him, and I'm glad he chose Jesus and I pray that he will find a suitable partner who will only be happy to see things the same. As for you I do hope you find the way too, Mary did suffer but the one who did most of the suffering for you and me and the whole world was JESUS please don't ever forget that because one day you'll be asked that question from His Father and as Jesus own words said in the bible, I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE and there is no other way through anyone else on this planet or elsewhere. Bless you hope you will find the WAY.


Manola Flora 6 years ago

PS We are not brain washed, you see when we gave permission for Jesus to come into our lives and heart as our Lord and Saviour, He actually did come in and has changed our lives forever for the best, who would want to go back to our old lives and be of this world. He's prepared a place in heaven where there will be no more tears no more pain, just like it was meant to be in the beginning, that day is coming soon, are you ready? You will find this information in the bible, no doubt!


Manola Flora 6 years ago

Fat......did you know that Jesus hated tradition. What in the world is SOLA SCRIPTURA! Are you following latin or something like that. You are right no religion can save people, but only God, and isn't great that God cares for us so much that He sent His only Son to die on the cross for the whole world. Yes God Himself came down, EMANUEL, GOD with us. Being a christian is a belief in the Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. In the new testament the only commandment is LOVE......There is definitely no religion here, all religions are man made and so to follow rules.......Us born again christians, just follow the bible and God Himself will guide us if we obey his Voice or Word. It's simple........NO TRADITION.............it's all about having a relationship with Jesus, He stand at the door and is knocking.......will you let Him in? It's your choice. Since I've done that my whole life has changed, for the better. He loves you very much and more.


simplelang 6 years ago

Jesus hates tradition that's correct. The Born-again's never fail to practise the "holy than thou tradition". It's not in the written in the bible and yet they practise it. How ironic? Don't judge lest you be judged.


Chasez 6 years ago

I am born catholic and poor at it.

I thought about born again Christianity, but

what if i'd make a poor born-again also?

Organized religion is not for me.

Thank you for this confusing and yet colourful

forum to remind me of this fact.

This is my choice and I respect others as well.


Sandra 6 years ago

Hi Manola Flora, I find your comments really helpful and I see your point. I need your help. :(

I am a Catholic and I now want to go to the Born Again Christians' church regularly after being invited once. It's just that, I feel like I can't go closer to God if I continue attending mass in the Catholic church. I feel far away from God. The moment I joined the Born Again Christians in their worship, I felt Him, a feeling I never had in the Catholic church.

Is it alright for me to stay being a Catholic and just continue going to the Born Again's church, or do you think it's now time for me to make a decision and have myself converted? Honestly, I'm quite scared. I belong to an all-Catholic family. I'm 18. Is it too early to decide?


Michael 6 years ago

In wrestling with my own questions of the 'one true faith/religion,' I came across this blog. I dare not comment here in my own words, lest an ounce of flesh taint the spirit that my heart desires to share. After reading everyone's comments, I prayed aloud to Jesus and opened my Bible reading 2Cor10 and 11... these verses 'jumped out'

2Cor 10:7 "Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's."

2Cor11:3-4 "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him."

As I continued to read the chapter I paused and came back here to post those verses and recall Matthew 7:1 in particular among the several instances we see Jesus in the Gospels instructing us not to judge others having 'beams in our own eyes.' the other that comes to mind is Titus 3:7-11 "That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men. But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. A man that is a heretic after the first and second admonition reject; knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself."

Matthew 12:50 "For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother." (Isn't the will of the Father to believe on the name of His Son Jesus? and to love the Lord your God with all your heart, will and strength and your neighbor as yourself?)

What is love? ... 1 Cor13:1-13... it keeps no records of wrong and does not boast but rejoices in truth...

Those of you who find dissatisfaction in 'church' ... Jesus told his disciples in Matthew 18:18-20 "Verily I say unto you, whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Again I say unto you, that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." and so I ask... If you go to a place and have not the faith that Jesus is present there in you... is he not? and when you go to a place where you have faith he will be and you are in the company of someone who agrees with you... he is there with you... And even so, if His Spirit bears witness in you having made His dwelling place there, you are gathered in His name by His own witness and Jesus is there wherever you go, free to worship, praise, give thanks, and do good works for the glory of His name...

I grow weary and am too young to feel as such, but am reminded and given hope in Paul's words (who was FAR more afflicted than I'll ever be I think) Philippians 1:23-24

Rejoice!!!

Jesus Christ is Lord, he lived among us, the Word incarnate, taught us how to love God and all of his creation with the Spirit of God the Father, suffered and died for our sins by his grace for our salvation, told us to repent and have faith in him, rose from the dead and lives at the Father's side, his Spirit with us always until he comes again in glory. Amen. (If I missed something in this last part, forgive me, I'm very tired and have been reading a lot...) God bless you all, in Jesus name.


Manola Flora 6 years ago

Dear Sandra, you are very young and it's great about you wanting to be nearer to God and He will definitely bless you in your life and your walk with Him. I come from an all catholic family and relatives who don't really go to church often but they insists that you must stay a catholic. I always loved Jesus but wasn't really walking in His ways until my sister died and that's when I turned to Jesus and became a born again christian and my sister really praised the way I changed. My prayer life changed, also my attitude and my whole life turned around for the better. Even though my dear sister died, I know how much she loved Jesus and thanked Him every day until her last breath, she never suffered and I have the surety of seeing her again one sweet day. My mum, my husband, my sister's family and my daughter are now all born again, but the rest of my relatives think we have been brainwashed because we are too close to God. You see my nephew is now an elder of our church, I'm manage the cafe', I love serving people and have so much love for my church family. I know how you feel about going to a mass and then also a christian service. I've had to go to weddings, funeral (rosaries) and also communions and etc at catholic churches, and yes, i just don't feel right, especially when I look at Jesus dead on the cross, cause I know how ALIVE He is, and also I feel down because when I am at my church service each week, the feeling is so much different, it's alive and happy and I can feel God's Glory come down, He lives in the praises of His people. It's a totally different feeling. I am so glad you do go to these meetings, but I suppose you feel torn between the two, especially if your family are all catholic. There are born again catholics too, maybe find out about the charasmatics in the catholic church, they are very similar to us born agains. I started with them too. You are young and I am very happy that your heart is definitely touched by God Himself, don't worry He will draw nearer to you as you draw nearer to Him. He knows your heart and just ask Him for direction and pray for your family, and most importantly just show them that you love them cause Jesus loves them all too, no matter what religion they are, only His Holy Spirit will open their hearts and eyes just like your eyes have been opened and mine too. You have a wonderful life in front of you, get involved with the youth group at the christian church and just read His Word because His Word is a lamp unto your feet and He will guide you. God bless you always

ps, when I first went to a born again church service, it was on a Good Friday and straight away, even though I felt a bit guilty for not going to my usual ritual at the catholic church, I was at the same time so relieved and touched by God that day, that I could never go back to anything else.


Sandra 6 years ago

Thank you Manola Flora! Your words lifted me up. It feels good to know that someone understands exactly how I feel. I just hope that my fear of what other people might say won't overcome my desire to know Him more.

Please do continue giving light to others. Again, thank you, and may God bless you and your family, always. :)


Sandra 6 years ago

Thank you Manola Flora! Your words lifted me up. It feels good to know that someone understands exactly how I feel. I just hope that my fear of what other people might say won't overcome my desire to know Him more.

Please do continue giving light to others. Again, thank you, and may God bless you and your family, always. :)


William 6 years ago

Sandra, remember that no religion is absolutely right. Religion is man-made, it is not perfect. Religion is just our own way, our medium, to "connect" ourselves with God, to have this relationship with Him.

If a person who you think can teach you a lot of things in life speaks in French, don't you want to learn French in order to understand him? But what if you are stranded in a country where only English is being taught? Will you not find a way to go out, explore, and learn?

I understand why you are scared. It's hard to leave one's nest. But remember that the day you start leaving your nest, that's the day you'll learn how to fly.

I wish you good luck in your decision. Pray always, and may God bless you in your journey.


Manola Flora 6 years ago

that's right all religions are man made and that's why they cause so much problem. Once you have a personal relationship with Jesus, he will be the mediator between you and God the Father. Just read His Word daily and go to a church where His Word, the bible is preached and by hearing and hearing by the Word of God, your faith will increase and you will be blessed. God is a God of blessing.


Hugo Cosio 5 years ago

Well I've personally been to a B.A. church with my friends several times and I have nothing bad to say about it. I respect it. I am a very open minded Catholic and I have a very strong relationship with God. I don't worship Mary at all. I respect her like a polite young man would respect the mother of his best friend. And as for Religion, it's just a word. It's just the study of faith. Beyond that word is where faith truly is. The Rosary is a prayer. A strong prayer that will only bring you closer to God. I respect all Faiths without losing my own. Don't lose your catholic faith. It's a beautiful thing.


simplelang 5 years ago

Well said Hugo.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

There is only one faith, Jesus said I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE......there is no other way.

I agree with you Hugo, but as you say 'religion' is just a word, but who made up the rosary? The only prayer in the bible (God's Word), is the Our Father, religion made up other prayers. Real prayers come from the heart personally from you to God, He actually likes us to talk to Him. Also what makes God happy is faith, believing in Him and His Word and also bearing fruits, good fruits which are given to us by the Holy Spirit. I too respect all faiths, but only one leads to HIM and one day soon, every knee will bow and every tongue cofess that Jesus Christ is Lord, and His coming for His bride, pure and clean.


confused 5 years ago

Hi Manola Flora, i want to know if you're a filipino and if you're from Philppines. I just want to share my story with you. I was raised as a Roman Catholic. My life has been blessed with loving parents and relatives, i went to exclusive school and graduated college and became a registered nurse. My mom is a very religious person who never fails to attend mass every sunday. Im always with her since im the only child. and my father is working abroad. Few years back my mom became so active in our church and she became officer of Barangay Pastoral Council wherein there is a bible service every sunday conducted by the lay ministers of our Parish Church and by priest once a month. (Bible service supposedly reading the Bible between the lines but surprisingly doing a usual ritualistic catholic mass) When I was a teenager, i admit im going to church just to pray, but i do not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I also served in Youth for Christ but not until i stepped up to college. I became busy with school's stuffs and just feed my spiritual needs by going to church every sunday. That was just my usual life has been. I tried to read the bible way back elementary days but i did not able comprehend the true meaning of God's words and end up being so literal so i stopped reading it. God seek me through Youth for Christ but i got busy with other stuffs. I know that was my calling to serve other people and to serve God. But whenever i ask my mom to go to YFC conferences outside Luzon, she's always hesitant coz she's always nervous that something bad might happen as we travel by ship or by airplane, I was like, mom you're serving in church but you have so little trust in Him. So i told myself that i cant do what i wanna do - "we will abandon them all for the sake of the call". then years had passed I became friends with one of the facebook user, we fell in love with each other though we haven't met, s/he's a born again christian and always reading the bible whenever we talk over the phone. then one night i asked him/her (i used him/her to remain anonymous coz s/he might read this) to read it loudly so as for me to hear. Then s/he was surprised and later i found out that s/he was happy the night i asked him/ her to read the bible for me. Then after months of reading the bible with him/her i became confused coz it felt like i wanna convert as a born again christian because as i read the bible and understand the teachings, i saw that there are some God's law that contradict my religion, the roman catholic. most of all the idolatry. God hates idols and other images that cannot walk, cannot talk and cannot do anything to save us. Only Jesus can save us and bring us to Our Father as the bible says. One night as we were having dinner, i told my mom about the idolatry in catholic and she get mad coz she's so active in our church and here i am talking about bible and the contradicting facts about the catholic teachings and what the bible says. last night i had a dream about Jesus saving me. and i wonder if He is calling me again. Should I convert as a born again christian and leave the catholic church or can i just stay as a catholic but not worship idols and not follow some of the teachings that i knew as incorrect according to the bible and attend in born again fellowship at the same time? pls help me. thanks. Btw please also pray for me to have wisdom. im also praying in Jesus name about my confusion. Thanks and Godbless


Shazam 5 years ago

Hi confused

After reading your story it seems to me that you know in your heart the answers to your questions. When we cry out to God, He hears our cry and knows our hearts. He is love and He loves you dearly. Take time to read the bible and pray on your knees and the Lord will speak clearly to you. If you scroll back up you will find many clear arguments , supported by scripture, that are encouraging for walking in a personal journey with Lord Jesus . Your mom will continue to be angry with you but after you commit your life to Jesus you will soon discover the truth, and when you understand the truth it will stand firm against all else which in turn will upset those that don't know the truth. Remember this that Jesus came to earth and showed us grace. This grace would allow you , I believe , under these circumstances to sit in a catholic church, in fear of upsetting your mother and worship Jesus as long as you are clear in you heart that the catholic traditions are wrong. Confused, this is your free will and God had put it before you to ask Jesus into your heart , to follow His commandments and enter the London of heaven. By doing this you will have eternal life but you must be born again. Good works will not save you. I will pray for you right now and for the days to come. I trust that you will separate yourself from catholism and discover more of the truth that are so evident in the sciptures. If you have more questions please feel free to compact me via email, zam_mohamed@hotmail.com. Peace Shazam


Shazam 5 years ago

Kingdom of heaven not London of heaven ! Lol

Oooopps i m using a tiny keyboard


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Hi 'confused', well, Shazam said it all very well. Good works does not get you to heaven, you must be born again. When you ask Jesus in your heart, God's spirit and your spirit connect and he can come in because then you are the temple of the Holy Spirit, you give Him permission to come inside and live in you. He can only come in with your permission when you ask Him. Then you belong to God and you belong to Him. Jesus came to serve and as we become like Him we can love to serve others. I know where your mother is coming from because most of my relations are the same although they call themselves catholic don't really go to church much, but yet, they don't like us being born again even though they've seen the good change in us, they still believe we are so wrong for leaving the catholic church. Your mum is a dedicated catholic and all you can do is pray for her for God to open her eyes and to trust God, then she'll have no fear, God is peace and all He wants us to do is obey Him and He will give us the desires of our heart. What pleases Him the most is faith and the only way faith can grow is by hearing the Word of God, the bible. Unfortunately there's not much teaching of the Word in a catholic church, but some of the scriptures read are always uplifting. You yourself can ask Jesus to come into your heart, believe that He died for you on the cross and that he then resurrected and He lives. Ask for forgiveness of your sins, cause we're all sinners and ask Him to be your Lord and Saviour and to guide you and show you the way.He does talk to you, He also has a sense of humour and you'll have a wonderful relationship with him and it can only get better with time, He will give you peace and joy that will never leave you. God bless you and your friend from facebook who encourages you, see God always sends someone around you so you are definitely in good hands.

To answer your first question, no I'm not a filipino, but I have an ex aunt who is, I was born in Italy, but since the age of 9 I have been living in Australia. God bless you and also ask God to give you wisdom and to give you a clear sound mind, He does listen especially when you are His child.

ps. He knows your heart so if you have a calling and you are open to it, He will find a way to get you there, just trust Him.He is a miracle working God who loves you very much and has a plan for you since the before you were born, give Him your life and He will make it into something wonderful for His kingdom and He can also use you to bring many other people to heaven.


Pam Palladino 5 years ago

My husband was raised Roman Catholic and actually started a blog on Catholicism VS the Bible. If you choose to read it I think you will find it very insightful. Many people follow the Catholicism because they were born into it. They grow up following the traditions of the church not even know where they came from. Please check out the blog and feel free to ask questions! Thank you.


S. Grace 5 years ago

I grew up attending the Baptist Church and Catholic Church (talk about confused). Then my Stepmother was Jehovahs Witness. As an adult I live in Salt Lake City among the Mormans. Let me tell you I have studied and learned much about all these religions. I realized after reading and studying the Bible, that it is not about religion, its about keeping things simple and having a pure, personal relationship with Christ. I have been baptized a "Born Again Christian" and I now feel like the veil has been lifted. I see things simply, and I am not driven by religious rules, or traditions taught by the family. I am "free", and full of the spirit. Its amazing how blind I was before, and now I can see things so clearly. Its all about knowledge and learning the history of the religion you are currently in. You will find things that totally shake you to the core. The Bible gives you what you need in a very simple and direct way. Knowledge is power. You will know and feel the truth when you find it.


confused 5 years ago

I guess I already knew what are you guys talking about. Its just that im too scared of my mom if she will learn that I wanna be a Born Again Christian. Or might as well pray for it coz nothing is impossible if we pray to God Almighty through Jesus Christ.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

That's right nothing is impossible for God. My daughter was anti anything to do with God. But I've been keeping on praying to God asking in Jesus' name to save her and my daughter now loves how I've become, strong in faith and trusting God with everything and sometimes she also asks me to pray for certain things, cause she has seen the power of God work in our lives. Never give up just trust God and He will never let you down. I still pray that one day my daughter will know God the way I do and I know she will be set free like I have been set free. Also as S. Grace said, it's not about religion, but by reading and studying the bible and having a personal relationship with Jesus you will find the truth and you will be set free too. "Confused", my mum being Italian was very much into the catholic religion, and it was hard for me to show her a different way when I became a born again christian. I took her to a meeting at a christian church, it was a healing service, she instantly got healed from chronic asthma and the very next day threw away all her medications, she suffered for 17 years and was then and now totally free from this disease, that's when she believed cause she also heard God's voice to get up from her seat and get prayed specifically for the asthma. My mum never forgets this miracle but when she tells her friends, they don't believe her, but she knows better and she enjoys going to worship God at our church now, my nephew is now an elder of the church and I run the cafe', everyone there calls my mother , 'mama' and she's very happy, she's turning 80 yrs in April, and she only looks about 65 still looking after herself and doing a lot of work, she also helps me in the cafe. It's all about serving people getting together and celebrate the love of God and Jesus.I pray that your mother will have a miracle in her life and she'll never be the same again, that her spiritual eyes be opened and she will see clearly. It's so sad that we are brought up to follow a man made religion instead of just focusing on God's word the bible and it's all so pure and simple. Jesus came to save us and all He did was heal people and made them whole, He didn't like traditions either. If you have a bible or let your friend on facebook read to you Mark chapter 16, verses 15 to 20. Some bibles don't have these verses, it's the great commission to preach the good news to all. May you be blessed! Don't be scared to step out you're not alone Jesus is your best friend and He's always with you He will never leave you and He holds the future, so you're in good hands!


margaret 5 years ago

i am a devout catholic and i thank god every day for being born into a catholic family i am so fulfilled full of peace joy and happinness the lord has no favourites regardless of religin can anyone tell me why bornagain christiens talk so bad about jesus mother mary our holy blessed mother


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Margaret, get your facts right, born again christians totally LOVE JESUS, and we honour His blessed mother. Where do you get your information from. For your information born again christians are devoted to Jesus,God the Father and the Holy Spirit and we only follow the bible, God's true Word. Again I must say this again and again, Jesus said I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE...........no mention of religion, because it's man made. He is the WAY! Please read the bible and ask GOD to open your spiritual eyes and please don't say things like 'born again christians talk so bad about Jesus', where in the world is that coming from? JESUS IS OUR LIFE THERE IS NO OTHER. Also in His Word there is no mention of praying to anyone else except the Father, just like Jesus did when He walked on the earth. At least we do agree and believe in the Holy Trinity, it's a pity that there are so many different christians, if we were all united, the world would change for the better! I'm praying for that.


confused 5 years ago

Hi again Manola, one night im eating dinner with mom and dad and we talked about Bible and other religions. I told them that religion cannot save us but only Jesus. I even quoted some of the Bible verses that i've read with my Facebook friend. But too bad our conversation ended up in argument :( My mom even told me that maybe someone asking me to change my religion, I wanna told her that being born again is not a religion, it is a way of living, being born again and being a Christian who follow only the word of God and not honoring any idols and any rituals and tradition, but i kept silent because if i say so, it might add up to my mom's anger. I even told her about the idols and the bible verses that talks about idols but she refused and told me to stop talking to my friend who encourage me to change my religion well in fact s/he's not encouraging me but I am the one who started to ask him/her about the Bible whenever S/he reads. Last Sunday we went to church and after the mass, my mom went to the images and prayed. I just prayed silently that in Jesus name, may God do something to open my mom's spiritual eyes and accept and embrace the truth.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Dear 'confused', don't worry too much, I know you'd like to share your new found faith in Jesus with your mom and dad, but because they think that you may or will change religion they are pretty much scared because according to them you must be like them 'a catholic'. They only know what they have been taught and it's hard for them to believe anything else and you will end up arguing with them and that's not nice. My nephew's sister in law came to our church for nearly a year and was doing really well, but her mom even warned her that if she kept coming to our church she would take her car away and also blamed her when her dad became ill, blaming her for everything and she had no peace. Eventually, unfortunately she left our church and now doesn't even go to any church at all but she's become addicted to the gym and has become so skinny she needs to put on weight, and she's never happy, looks empty. Her mother still blames her for things even though it's been over 2 years now and she really hates my nephew for introducing her to our church. The mother would rather her daughter goes to nightclubs and sleeps around than go back to our church. There is still no peace in that household and the mother has become very evil and mean. God knows your heart so just give your mom and dad over to Him and ask the Holy Spirit to minister to them. Just love them they do not understand where you are coming from and are scared because of this belief about changing religion. The other day my atheist friend who says of course he doesn't believe Jesus or anything to do with God, called me religious and I got pretty upset cause I'm not religious, I don't follow man made religions, actually our pastor last Sunday said there are over 35,000 different christian de-nominations....all call themselves christians and have different constitutions....(read Acts in the bible, they were the first real christians)....anyway, I said to my friend, Jesus hated religions, all He did was heal people and love people, religion was made up by man and it's no good. I only follow God's Word, the bible and the more I walk in His ways the more He blesses me. I'm glad my mom is also born again, but being Italian and not being catholic anymore we are not very well looked at by other family members and friends,they know we're different, but that's not important, because our lives have been changed for the better and we definitely know where our destination is and we are filled with His glory and I always make sure I have an opportunity to talk about Jesus and I find that most people do listen and know that we have the words of Life and his Word never comes back void! IT'S ALIVE AND IT PENETRATES THE HEART. Don't give up dear confused, keep in touch with your friend on facebook he's/she's a good treasured friend! God bless xx


Jody Hudgeons 5 years ago

I have been on an ongoing quest to find out what God wants us to believe. Currently I am going to both churches (Cathholic & Christian. and have prayed for several years to have the truth revealed.

this is what I have learned. The Catholic church live the faith from birth to death and honor what God has given us here to glorify him, being Communion & the Sacraments. It is a lifelong journey created around the word of Jesus and glorifying him "through" the sacraments. Christians are the very same, but it doesn't necessarily start from birth. They assume the profession of Born Again to be "saved", where Catholics assume it from Birth. Cathilics having been baptized at birth, and later personally accepting & acknowledging it again as an adult in Confirmation. Christians accept the life in Christ by being Born again, where Catholics have lived it since birth. They are both saved and loved by God, the difference that keeps me going to the Catholic church is the sacraments, and Holy Communion, but Christians seem more able to share the faith of Jesus Christ through getting people to confess and accept Jesus as their savior. Catholics seem to not be able to do it so easily because of the fact it has been a life long journey and they don't fully understand the need of an outward admission of accepting Jesus as your Savior, because for Catholics it has been a lifelong journey & learning experience. What God did reveal to me in this is what is important in all of this is "THAT WE LOVE EACH OTHER AND RESPECT EACH OTHER IN OUR FAITH AS WE ARE ALL FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST, Maybe he just wanted us to learn to do as Jesus would do and "LOVE" our fellow Christian, and DON'T make it about religion. Make it about becoming "MORE Christ Like.


ok 5 years ago

GOD is the CREATOR!!

NOT CHRIST.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON AND GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT.

THREE IN ONE............John chapter 10 verse 30 "I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE' Ok?


simplelang 5 years ago

Hi Jody

Nice post and more sensible.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

simplelang have you heard of the great commission? It's in the gospel of Mark, last chapter, verses 15 to 20. So because I'm a follower of Jesus, I obey Him. You have a problem with born again christians, and by the way we do love all of God's people and we do not judge. Not all people are the same and obviously there are some born again christians who think they are 'holier than thou' like you've mentioned in your last comments. The real christian that follows Jesus will make it his or her duty to spread the good news of the gospel. That is our great commission given to us by Jesus Himself. And by no means, we still love each other by doing so.

Jody, where does it say in the bible about sacraments? We have communion at our church too. We remember the last supper we do this in memory of Jesus until He comes again. You know some people make a mockery of Holy Communion, instead of taking it very serious.You said that God has given us the sacraments to glorify Him, where did you read that from? Also where in the bible does it say babies were baptised? Does it seem to you that you are following man made rules? I did all of that as a baby, then confirmation, but nothing happened until I opened my heart and let Jesus in and He changed me. I do agree with you that we must become more Christlike. Most of the catholics I know still don't know Jesus, some do and thank God for that. They still pray to saints, and the saints were humans who have died and can't do anything now because they are dead, Jesus is the only one who has resurrected and is ALIVE. God doesn't get glorified by the sacraments, He alone is to be worshipped and deserves all the GLORY!!


simplelang 5 years ago

Manola,

The feeling is mutual. I see born agains the way you perceive Catholics. Simple as that.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see!

I once was a catholic but now I'm born again. By the way did you know that there are many born again catholics, the charasmatics, don't tell me you are also against them too. They have meetings but aren't allowed to have church, they have to go separatly to meet. Is that telling you something. And why are many catholics converting to born again christians. Anyway we are all christians if we believe in Jesus, so that's the main thing I guess. If the priests in the catholic church would get the congregation to say a simple prayer, Jesus would then have permission to enter their hearts (we do have a free will and He doesn't force Himself)then there would be a big difference once He starts cleaning up the inside of a person and His Holy Spirit comes to live in us. Simplelang it's that simple!!! I think that's a great idea don't you agree. How wonderful the catholic church would be all over the world, all christians in one accord following God's Word, the Bible, the TRUTH!!! Did you know that christian means "anointed ones' because we belong to Jesus and are anointed to tell the good news. I have a friend who prays fervently for unity in the church of Jesus Christ, how wonderful it would be to see that happen, but again unfortunately all religions have different laws, views and beliefs, that's why it's hightly important to follow the bible and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal it to us as we read it.


simplelang 5 years ago

Manola,

I'm glad somebody who practise the "lifestyle" acknowledged that Catholics are born again too because it's different when you deal with the "holy than thou" practitioners who are quick to dismiss us when we assert it. Just to clarify your deduction that I'm against the charismatics too, I would never do that to someone who still adheres to our beliefs in fact I'm happy that my brethren are active in this other Catholic lifestyle. I will not dwell on the popular reason why Catholics choose your lifestyle because we all have free will and I respect that. Here are the other uncomfortable facts first, we are your primary target(eg. Jews, Buddhist, Sikhs, Hindu or Muslims? nah too difficult to convert), and second we are exploitable due to minimal mastery of the bible, third, the Catholic religion per se is not proactive enough in teaching its followers how to counteract the constant demonization of its beliefs by other religions or lifestyles. For what differences we have it's a product of our own nature. God gave us His Word and He also gave us the free will to discern it. We choose our own version of the truth that's why no one can say one is saved and the other one is not. It would be a nice idea Manola that one day the Bible is used promote cohesion rather than dwell on division.


sam 5 years ago

Hi i'm a catholic and will stay a catholic through and through, i've been reading all the posts and the problem here is this annoying woman who is trying to indoctrinate people and trying to justify being born again she keeps repeating herself over and over again as if shes reading it off a peace of paper and keeps starting her replies with i was once a catholic already sowing her seeds of doubt on some innocent soul that has fallen off his path, we all go through it, the key is to study your faith as a catholic in order to fully understand it. How can you profess your faith if you don't know it, which seems to be the case with this lady Manola, i think you need to understand what your church teaches you. How can you say you love jesus when you keep condemning other christian faiths. I have friends who became born again and were forced into things they weren't used to only for them to come back to the Catholic faith, you don't enforce your religion or faith on people. What does your pastor tell you, don't drink, don't wear pants where does it tell you that in the bible? Nowhere yes other faiths refer to you people as an occult because you are. you are following your pastor who woke up the morning before and decided to start his own church, and then your daughter has a demon inside here so i have to sleep with her and you idiots fall for the joke, wake up man you didn't turn away from the catholic faith because you couldn't find god, god was always there you didn't take the time out to know him. So when you want to start quoting things find out from someone who is learned don't quote what you think it should be, as born agains are the biggest hypocrits today your born again around and tomorrow your sleeping with the pastor or your sisters husband. But lady i seriously think you should give up you job of spreading the word of God because you don't even know him yourself and it makes me sick in my stomach to think that you use gods name.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Firstly Sam, the God I love and serve has a capital G.

Secondly I don't condemn other faiths but quoting what Jesus said, that He is the Way the Truth and The Life there is no other Name on Earth or Heaven that anyone can be saved.

Thirdly my pastor only teaches or preaches what is in the bible, we can drink, but don't get drunk, and we do wear pants. You have really got it wrong.

Fourthly, ??study the catholic faith??????? sorry the only faith I read is in the bible, God's Word, not something written by a man who makes up his own rules and is a sinner like anyone else.

And don't start about who's sleeping around here and there, we won't get into stuff like that, boy abuse and so on by you know who.

Please stay a catholic through and through, I'm certainly not bothered, I'm ready to meet my Saviour anytime He wants me, I am free I am saved by His grace and am willing to speak His truth until my last breath. May God bless you and please don't be sick in your stomach, I believe you may need healing!


Anne 5 years ago

LORD, thank you for your unfailing and unconditional love. Even if we are not worthy, you still chooses to endure the pains, sufferings and sacrificed your life just to save us "sinners". Thank you for the gift of salvation Lord. Forgive us Lord, from all of our sins. We have decided to honor you and walk in your path. Mold us, use us and send us Lord to fulfill your purpose in our lives. Lord, I pray for salvation and enlightenment for those who are prideful, selfish and blinded. Open their heart Father, may they become thirsty from your word, feel incomplete and search for You. I also pray for all the witnesses who are trying to share and reach for others but they are often misinterpreted. Give us all the wisdom through the power of the Holy Spirit. For the witnesses, may they stay humble and enthusiastic in sharing the word. Lord, we cannot stand alone in this world. Guide us Lord. Reign in our lives, oh Lord.

Thank you Father God. In Jesus holy name. Amen.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

AMEN AND AMEN!!! GOD BLESS YOU ANNE.


simplelang 5 years ago

Good prayer.


The Elder 5 years ago

I've just read a lot of the posts and arguments above. And I am not going to disclose my denomination in this post as that is not important here. But what I will say is that as Christians we should not be arguing over trivial matters. These things enter God's church to bring division. We should not be like that people.

But this is what I will say. Jesus said the truth shall set you free, and He also said that God's Word is truth. So people, please read or listen to the Word of God. God's Word is what will set you free, free from denominations and regulations. Do you know you can be saved as a Baptist, Born Again Christian, Catholic, Anglican etc etc. It's how your heart is before God that matters, and whether or not you have accepted his awesome gift - the gift of His Son Jesus who died on the cross for us all, despite denomination. He will not ask you on that Day whether you were this type of Christian or that type, He will simply search your heart to see if you really knew Him, to see what fruit you bore for Him and whether or not the shed blood of Jesus Christ has washed your sins away.

So the truth is, if you believe in your heart that Jesus died and rose from the dead, and confess this, you will be saved.

Denominations are man made. Man has brought division among the church, not God. Man has also burdened some denominations more than others, I believe to take ones focus off God and onto idols, rituals, customs etc etc. This sort of distraction is from you know who.

Like I said at the start people - the truth shall set you free, and I will also say whom the Son sets free, is free indeed.

Peace and love to all who call upon the name of the Lord.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

The Elder, I totally agree with you and thanks for your words. Just one thing about believing in your heart that Jesus died and rose from the dead, but also to confess that we are sinners and need His forgiveness, we will be saved. Thanks again for sharing, it's great and nothing more can be added! Praise God!


clarence po! 5 years ago

RELATIONSHIP TO OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THAN RELIGION.....I'M A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN WHO LIVE IN SPIRIT (no object) AND IN TRUTH (no hypocrisy, but biblical in doctrine)...WE ARE MADE TO SAVE THE LOST AND NOT TO CONDEMN OTHERS... LETS LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS GOD COMMANDED US TO DO.FOR LOVE IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW... GOD BLESS US ALL


[stealth] 5 years ago

Hi,everyone. I'm a baptized Catholic and raised as a Catholic person, BUT when I was already 17 years old, I was wondering why is it that in the commandments of God, most of those were NOT observed by Catholic believers.So, I decided to visit a born again group just to observe how born again Christians were "practicing' or shall I say praising and worshiping God.Since, I hear that they are good people.So, during my visit there just for a day listening to the preaching, everything then was clear to me. I just love the way they praise and worship God. I even felt goosebumps hearing the preaching from the beginning of the service until the end. I felt God speaks to me just at my very first visit in the church's service. I felt a wind going through my ears and then my body felt an unexplainable 'heat' even there is enough ventilation inside. Wow, I can't forget that experience. After that first Sunday that I visited their church, it was followed by another Sunday visit, and then another and another and so on and so forth. I was baptized as an infant and we know that infants does not know what is right and wrong. All they know is just grasp a feeding bottle, sleep, peeing in their diapers and cry when they are hungry. I'm just saying that when we develop knowledge and understanding at the right age, that's the time that we can repent for our sins if we confess that we are sinners and accept Jesus as our only Savior who died for your sins and mine at the cross and which in fact, can't be done by babies or even toddlers. Right now, I am still a Catholic by paper but I don't like to go back to my old belief again. I want to follow the footsteps of Jesus 'cause I believe that He will lead my straight to God. God Bless us all!


Avsummergirl 5 years ago

Just finished reading all posts (whew!). I pray that the Lord blesses and guides everyone who has posted on or read this forum. I pray that eyes are opened and ears are unblocked. I pray that minds are enlightened and prejudice and hatred are let go. I pray that the Lord uses His own to teach and correct, and that the Holy Spirit guides the words and thoughts of men and women who are seeking, and those who are teaching. I pray for sincere hearts and that through this forum, many are brought to a saving knowledge and all-encompassing love for our Saviour, Jesus Christ. May we see beyond the differences in our religions to the Truth in His Word. May we love the Lord with all of our heart, all of our soul, all of our mind, and all of our strength...and may we love our neighbors and fellow forum men and women as ourselves. I pray that the eyes of your hearts may be enlightened so that you will know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe. These are in accordance with the working of the strength of His might which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.


ize 5 years ago

there is such a big difference between born agains and roman catholics...

first and foremost, in the holy scripture no one ever said that people should pray to mary. it is said the only way to God is His son Jesus christ, no one said that mary could be a way to Jesus.

second, we don't use images. like the face of Jesus, i wonder how they know his face. in the book of revelations, the face of the Christ changed. too much glory indeed that you can't see His face.

third, we don't pray to gods that cannot save. it is written in the bible, and God said, "do not worship gods that are made with man's hand and cannot save.'

fourth, we are not baptized in our early age (infant). but we were dedicated. remember when mary dedicate Jesus christ and not baptized.

fifth, we felt the presence of the lord by being into His presence. when i see some roman catholics praying, they are praying with some little book, i don't know what it calls.

sixth, we do not believe in purgatory, but it is heaven or hell.

there are so many differences between the two religions, but what is important is you are seeking Him everyday and wants to take deeper in Him.

you will understand it more if you will read the whole bible and pray to God for wisdom and discernment.

Godbless!


Charisse 5 years ago

NO to religion!!! YES to faith in God and a personal relationship with Jesus Christ! All you really need to know to answer your questions is to FOCUS on Jesus! Do it! =)


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Yes and that is all that counts. AMEN


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Yes and that is all that counts. AMEN


Jim 5 years ago

Please go to: catholic answers.com you'll find a lot of answers to your questions about the Catholic faith.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Sorry Jim, doesn't help at all. The bible has all the answers we really need. Let's not go back to man madelaws. Not interested in catholic faith, what we need is God faith! THE TRUTH because there is no other. Jesus is the Saviour of the World. All we need to do is to keep our eyes focused on Him and imitate Him. He has all the answers.


simplelang 5 years ago

jim,

No need to justify yourself. Grow in your faith, let no man judge you it's in the bible.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

no one is judging, just advising!


jj88 5 years ago

my daughter has asked the me the same question regarding praying to Mary since she has been going to a catholic school and we have been going to a different christian fellowship... my answer was very simple... Respect Mary as the human mother of Jesus. You read about her in the bible and that is her story as part of Jesus' life. But all the praises go to Jesus--- the yearnings going towards the holy trinity... and the only way through the Father is through Jesus... let's see Romans... Just always go back to the bible and do not imagine to interpret it... :)

At the end of the day, encouraging someone to have a personal relationship with Him is all that matters.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

jj88 that is it, a personal relationship with Jesus is all that matters.


John 5 years ago

I apologize to all those who believe that their religious education end at a certain age, i.e. 8 years old, 14 years old, it doesn't. Certainly the Catholic faith doesn't teach this - actually the Catholic faith teaches that you are continually learning (and questioning) your faith. That is part of spiritual growth.

For 18 years, I considered myself a born again Christian. Practically weekly, I heard how much better I was than all non-born agains. And, I believed it. I thought I was one of God's chosen few. Then one weekend, I went with a friend to a Catholic mass. Instantly, I was taken in by the fact that instead of talking about "me" or how great our sect was I was hearing the priest talk about Christ.

For a few months after attending that Catholic mass, I was troubled by the self-awakening that my born-again faith and Church was self-centered. It was clearly about me and my "special" relationship with Christ. But, it wasn't about Christ or God.

I chose to go to another evangelistic Christian church for a few months but nothing seemed to be different. It was continually about "me" and how great "we" were. So, on occasion, I visited a Catholic church, actually two different Catholic Churches -- both were my friend wasn't a member. What I found was that the message was the same -- it was about God and Christ.

Instead of the emphasis being on "me", it was on God and Christ. Weekly the teachings talked about Christ and the lessons we learn from Christ and how the Holy Spirit helps us. The emphasis was about God. Not "me" or how another faith was wrong but it was about God. And, it just wasn't one church it was all the churches.

I became so deeply convinced that I wasn't leading a truly Christian life. Instead of feeling empowered that I was better than someone else because I had been "saved" I became humble and respectful. It was no longer about me.

I converted to Catholicism 12 years ago and it was the best decision I have ever made. My words to my former born again brothers – Truly look inside yourself and question who are you really worshiping?


simplelang 5 years ago

John,

Your story is enlightening. I'm glad you saw the other side of the Catholic faith. May you always find peace in your choice of belief and do not succumb to the temptation of being self righteous. We are all the same in the eyes of God no matter how different we praise Him.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

I'm really sorry JOHN but I went back to the catholic church for a wedding and two funerals and my spirit was crushed because there was hardly any mention of Jesus and nothing to uplift people, nothing has changed much to when I used to go, the repetition kills, no one really means what they say, it's all dead words and the stone or wood statues around the church don't look too happy either, they are actually dead, and why keep Jesus dead on the cross, when we all know He's ALIVE!!!!! Born again churches are not about 'me' like you say, it's ALL ABOUT HIM, we're nothing but everything in HIM. You definitely went to the wrong place. It says in the bible, that we are His ambassadors so it's right to feel good about that we are His heirs, His sons and daughters and yes it's all about HIM and no other and YES we are saved by His precious blood. We worship only Him forever and ever. You are not truly born again, and there are many born again catholics by making Jesus their Lord and SAviour they start to see the LIGHT.

SIMPLELANG, yes, we are all the same in the eyes of God, but we must invite Jesus to come and live in our hearts,repent of our sins and we are forgiven and then His spirit will dwell in us and He can use us for His Glory. It's not all about how we praise Him. The main things is that we do praise Him. Got to get rid of that religious spirit we need to be free in His Truth!


Simplelang 5 years ago

Manola,

We Catholics are doing what you are saying but we just do not conform to your man-made standard. So please to each his own.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

we born again Christians only conform to the bible, inspired by God, we don't have man made laws it's all biblical. All other religions including catholic are all man made and if you're happy that's great for you, I'm happy. But being an ex catholic I know the difference the truth has made, the bible that is, not what a man has made up. Yes each to his own and thank God my Father in Heaven, He's taken me out of the pit and opened my eyes. My Lord and Saviour, my King of Glory I owe Him everything and His praise will always be on my lips!!!


confused? not anymore :) 5 years ago

[stealth] that was the exact same thing i felt the first time i went to a Christian fellowship (April 3, 2011). I already attended 3 Sundays since 3rd of April, 2011. And I never felt so happy in my entire life not until I became Christian and a follower of Jesus..It's amazing how Christians worship Jesus by singing straight from their heart, raising your arms as if you're embracing Jesus. I always cry because of joy whenever I attend a service and I really feel that the Holy Spirit is within me. God bless you my friend

John >> you said that being a born again, its seems like its always "me" and "we". Given a circumstances that you feel like its always "me" or "we", my advice would be, why don't you pray and ask God through Jesus Christ to humble yourself whenever you feel like that? If you already have the Holy Spirit within you with all your heart, you can always pray that God will humble yourself. We human always have a struggles, but always remember that Christians only weapon is prayer not to idols but to a living God through Jesus Christ, and not those repeated prayers as if you're reciting a words that you memorized since childhood. Godbless everyone.


Simplelang 5 years ago

Wow! To equate your former Catholic faith to a pit? Very judgmental indeed Manola. What you just said is not an advise, you have declared your own judgement which is against the Bible. You are no different than your fellow "holy than thou" born agains.


saved 5 years ago

John, I hope you will be enlightened by this verse: Ephesians 2:8-9 "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith -- and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast"


Christian 5 years ago

Wow at the very first comment. All that cussing! Theirs a catholic for you.

I would hope that all who read this can agree that we try to be as Christ-like as possible, perfect. Although we aren't, we do our best. With that being said, we try to be like Jesus, who while on this earth was called, a Christian. Then why would you want to be called anything other than a Christian, i.e. Catholic? Christians are not Catholics and Catholics are not Christians. Christianity is faith in God (a relationship with God), not to be mistaken for religion (a catholic term). Christians go by what the bible says and have no mediator, i.e. the pope. 1 Timothy 2:5, “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. Christians don’t refer to their pastors as father, as do Catholics. Matthew 23:9, "And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven." Being a Christian is not a denomination. Catholicism is a denomination. Being Christian is simply a matter of believing that Jesus died for our sins and was resurrected from the dead. It is simply accepting the fact that all men are sinners, including ourselves and accepting the grace that God provided through the sacrifice of his son.


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dalisay 5 years ago

Jesus offers each of us a walk with God and a fullness of life that is not possible without him. He said, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again" (John 3:3).


Manola Flora 5 years ago

I love all the comments, how wonderful everyone is, but 'simplelang' we have a problem, so let me explain. I am not ashamed to say that I was in a pit before I was born again, and thank God that He took me out and touched my heart and started to change a lot of things. I am a changed person from the inside out. Once He poured His love into me and I was an open vessel so He had access to do so, I've never been the same. He's turned my sorrow into joy and my mourning into dancing! Anyway I didn't say that about my catholic faith, I said He took me out of the pit meaning where I was at that time, so don't take it so personally. Then think of it, we are all in a pit until He lifts us out into His Light and Love. Dear me we really have a problem, relax!!!


nelsa 5 years ago

thank God for his grace!!when I receive the holy spirit I understand what Jesus is talking about," to be born again" that's why the BIBLE become alive to me, because I experience some changes in my life,I don't say bad words anymore and I know how to forgive and ask for forgiveness,and I learn how to love others, and I talk to God directly,and I felt joy. right then,I knew I was born again. like what Jesus said "You should not be surprised at my saying "You Must Be Born Again" some people think this is some kind of religion to be born again,is not!this is Gods gift that if we accept him he can help us to change our old ways he can make us new in 2 cor.5:17 -18"Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation;the old has gone, the new has come!All this is from God,who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: when I read some comment I felt sorry for those whose angry because that is not Christ.but if we don't believe what Jesus said:then our eyes still blind and we cannot find the truth,and only the truth we'll set us free."Go to this people and say,You will be ever hearing but not understanding;you will be ever seeing but never perceiving."For this people's heart has become calloused;they hardly hear with their ears,and they have closed their eyes.[Acts 28:26-27] it is sad that we CHRISTIAN argue of whose right or wrong or which church do we go. "Sir" the woman said,"I can see that you are the prophet.Our fathers worship on this mountain,but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem." Jesus declared,"Believe me woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.You Samaritans worship that you do not know; we worship what we do know,for salvation is from the Jews.Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth,for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit,and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.[John4:19-24]"I was a catholic before also,I just follow of what I see I don't really have relationship with God, when I was 42 yrs old. and I call myself "Born again"I did not join some religion, I myself become born again because that's what Jesus did for me, he gave me a new me.and nobody told me not to worship statue.I did it on my own by the Grace of God.and that's the deferent if you have a real relationship with God you don't worship other God, because when you really love someone you don't look for nobody else and that's how much I love my God.why worship other God? I trust my God I know he hears my prayers so, I don't need no other God.if you read the ten Commandments God said not to worship other God.


nelsa 5 years ago

two days ago I did not read all the post, now I continue reading and I can see some people get insulted.I hope that we take our time and understand of who we really are and whose we are. lets try to check of who we belong or whose our Daddy;This is how we know the children of God are and who the children of the devil are:Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother.[1John 3:10] we can also check if we really have the spirit come from God;"THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT"love,joy,peace,patience,kindness,goodness,faithfulness,gentleness and self control."[GALATIANS 5:22-23]"But if you are led by the spirit,you are not under law.The acts of the sinful nature are obvious;sexual immorality,impurity and debauchery;idolatry and witchcraft;hatred,discord,jealousy,fits of rage,selfish ambition,dissensions,factions and envy;drunkenness,orgies,and the like.I warn you,as i did before,that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God."{GALATIANS 5:19-21] I hope brothers and sisters,as we believe in One God the Father the son and the holy spirit,lets not argue let's all love one another. and I hope we all understand what Jesus said to the Samaritan woman,that, it doesn't matter witch place or church we worship God."God is spirit,and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.[John 4:24]" and do you know why we are having a problem here?is because we might belong to some churches but not all of us are real.in any churches there is always a goat and a sheep,there is no perfect church, the church is in our heart and when Jesus come back he will separate the sheep from the goat."He will put the sheep on his right and the goat on his left.Then the king say to those on his right,Come,you who are blessed by my Father,take your inheritance the king prepared for you since the creation of the world.[Matt.25:33-34]" brothers and sisters, forgive me for my English and writing I try my best to share with you what Jesus teach,and I hope we follow the word of God, not men teaching.I have a friend who comes with me to a born again Christian church, and a friend of hers told her, to be careful not to be convert to born again, because we don't believe on any saints,or statutes.I told my friend,I can't convert anyone, only God can. and one thing,if you read the Bible it say in [ISAIAH 44:6-20] about idols. don't make me wrong,I am glad I was a catholic before or my family are catholic because of that,I believe there is God and I know who to call when i am in trouble.there is people I knew they don't believe in God at all.I was that kind of catholic before I don't have relationship with God I had a religion I got it from my Grandma and grandpa, but I like what I have right now,I learn what is the truth witches the word of God.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Nelsa, the truth has set you free indeed!!!


Mary  5 years ago

To all the confused out there that teach not to believe in MARY OUR MOTHER....... Please read the bible! Revelation 12.... Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a women clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. she bore a male child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. and her child was caught up to god and HIS throne. ......the dragon was enraged with the women who gave birth to the male child, as he could not get to her he went to war with the rest of her offspring (meaning all of us) who keep the commandments of god and have the testimony of jesus christ! IT'S ALL THERE IN BLACK...... PULL YOURSELF TOGETHER AND BELIEVE IN WHO PUT THE BIBLE TOGETHER, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, IT IS NOT TO BE INTERPRETED IN OTHER WAYS.....IT SAYS THAT IN THE BIBLE AS WELL.....


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Most things written in Revelation are symbolic but I do know that the 'woman clothed with the sun' etc.....is actually meaning ISRAEL. The child is JESUS CHRIST and her offspring is the church. The bible was not put together by the catholic church, christians were burnt and so were the bibles, please check the history, it's very important. Also, SALVATION ONLY COMES THROUGH JESUS CHRIST AND NO OTHER.


Skeptic 5 years ago

Well here's a couple of quotes for all you "born agains".

"Judge not least ye be judged"...."let he who is without sin cast the first stone" So in other words your judgement against Catholics comes from yourselves, not by God. You people say you have this personal relationship with Jesus. Well then ask him which place in Perth Australia is selling the cheapest beef sausages this weak. Get back to me with the right answer (which shouldn't be much of a chalenge seeing as you are personally friendly with a being that knows everything) and you will have the greatest born again believer ever on your hands. Until then I'll stay Catholic.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Here we go again!!!!!! No one is judging anyone. Us 'born agains' as you call us know the difference since we've had a personal relationship with Jesus. Until you do, please stay a catholic and for the cheapest beef sausages this week.........please check out your own prices, Jesus is interested in saving people not saving money!!!


Mary 5 years ago

Manola, "personal relationship with God" ohh dear! you dont have to be a born again to have this relationship!!! I feel for you and if being part of that cult makes you happy then so be it but your in for a massive shock. I have no time for bible bashers & their interpretations!! by the way "Happy Salary Sacafice"


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Mary, you need to read the whole bible, not just 'Revelation'. Then you will understand. In John 14:6 Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well". Jesus came to earth to save us from our sins and to restore our relationship with God. When we ask Jesus in our hearts we then become the temple of the Holy Spirit, it means that Jesus is living inside us. His spirit connects with ours and we belong to Him who is Spirit and comes from heaven. We are born sinners from Adam, so we must be born again from the Spirit not from the flesh. This is not bible bashing, it's God word and not my own interpretation. :)


Some Dude 5 years ago

On Manola Flora, can you please clear me on this matter

I have a coworker who is is born again pastor, I am a Roman Catholic by the way, he ask me to download some Christian song in the internet. I told him to buy the original, but he insisted that it is "OK" because it will be used for their service and he assumes that the artist the produce that music love to give away their music for free. I told him that it is stealing. Some songs are commercially sold and some are distribute freely. Is he right or I am wrong. Thanks


james 5 years ago

its amazing how many people here were unvieled by the wrong beliefs that was taught by religions...if your eyes are open into reality and god is dwelling in you,you have the tendency to speak those indescribable changes in happen your lives..that unspeakable joy that flet inside of finally being free ..born again means knowing the truth,having that holy spirit dwelling inside of you and having jesus as your lord and savior...good works follow because your a completey different person now!

to manola and the rest,thank you so much for sharing all those life changing experiences.

we are not condeming catholics or other religions here,in fact we loved everyone that took courage to speak the truth so that salvation would be for everyone..its god command to share the gospel because salvation if for everyone...chrishians share the good new because they are obeying gods command...

to simply lang...my advice to you is read the bible,because were not differenet from you..we were one a catholic but god opened our eyes..its just a matter of accepting the word of god..just read the bible because that is the foundation of everyone..forget about religion for a while and seek the truth,because gods word is as sharp as double edge sword"as he said"heaven and words will pass but my words will still remain",the bible would tell you the truth and not any other man made traditons or religions.

just open your eyes just like we did...bible will save you,thats the good news that would really set you free


james 5 years ago

sorry for the typos let me write it again hehe

ts amazing how many people here were unvieled by the wrong beliefs that were taught by religions...if your eyes are open into reality and god is dwelling in you,you have the tendency to speak those indescribable changes that happen in your lives..that unspeakable joy that you feel inside of finally being free ..born again means knowing the truth,having that holy spirit dwelling inside of you and having jesus as your lord and savior...good works follow because your a completey different person nonce you accepted christ!

to manola and the rest,thank you so much for sharing all those life changing experiences.

we are not condeming catholics or other religions here,in fact we loved everyone that took courage to speak the truth so that salvation would be for everyone..it's gods command to share the gospel because salvation is for everyone...christians share the good new because they are obeying gods command...

to simply lang...my advice to you is read the bible,because were not differenet from you..we were once catholic but god opened our eyes..its just a matter of accepting the word of god..just read the bible because that is the real foundation of your faith..forget about religion for a while and seek the truth,because gods word is as sharp as double edge sword"as he said"heaven and words will pass but my words will still remain",the bible would tell you the truth and not any other man made traditons or religions.

just open your eyes and heart just like we did and god will set you free...bible will save you,thats the good news that would really set you free


james 5 years ago

im not prefect,in fact im a big sinner that christ died for me to save me..the only difference now is i have guilt feelings and im becoming more aware of what im doing,,and everytime i make mistakes,i ask forgiveness.before,i really dont care about what im doing,now i know what is pleasing and what is not to gods sight..

when i first visited a christian church i was overwhelmed by the love of god and by the warm welcome that his people have given me,i wasnt judged instead they accepted me like a brother and a friend ..i felt safe and happy.that was something that made me realize that god was really dwelling in thier hearts..ofcourse i personally experience him.so why would i go back to my old beliefs where i didnt feel gods presence at all...all we need is relation(personal relationship to god)and not religion..im so grateful god he opened my eyes into reality.i thank god im not a narrow minded person and my constant longing for the truth really set me free..pour god is alive and powerful..

we have thank god for the cross,he died so that we will have eternal life.all the praises belong to him and no one else..i saw so many people that were changed by god and they were never the same again..lets open our eyes before we have time yet,because if we die we cant make excuses to god like,thats what my religion taught me,religion cant save you.at the end of the day we are all accountable to our own actions and we cant tell god we dont know the truth,theres no turning back so let us all open our heart and soul and accept christ alone as our savior.let me tell you all,the reaosn why christians are so busy spreading the word of god is because they love you..there is such a thing as accountability,so christians are accountable to share gods good news so many people will come to know god and experience his glory


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Some dude, you are right and he is wrong. You sure he's a born again pastor? He should know better.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Bless you James, wise words Godly wisdom, we need more of that!


james 5 years ago

in the deepest way.

you have nothing to loss but you have so much to gain!

in fact god said...what it is for a man to gain the whole world if he lossess is own soul..

christians dont fabricate words..its all written in the bible..god is bigger than those religions..the word of god is written in the bible,its a matter reading it wholeheatedly because it will set you free..god bless everyone


james 5 years ago

what happened to my post..it was cut hehe maybe i accidentally deletedsome parts of it hehe..

what i mean there is thats,when i was approached by those christians before,i never felt judge.in fact i was amazed by how gentle they were,i felti like i have friends instantly who wont put me into danger rahter guide me to the right path.i really felt safe with the. i felt the loveand care that i didnt event feel from my long time friends..there i realized that being a born again means the old you is dead and the new you is born thru christ,and because holy spirit dwells in you,you start to change,you become a new person..you start to become aware of all your actions,how many drug addicts or bad people were changed by god that even them couldnt believe how they became a much better person..

i thank god i never had a f heart of stone to accept the reality,im so grateful that instead of fighting with them and push what my religion taught me,i became obedient,because everything that they share are purely written in the bible,they never told me what they believed rather they share to me what is exactly the word of god is..thank god i open my eyes and had finally seen the light,thank god for those people whom he made as an instrument for me to know him more..and thanks to them because thru them,i felt thatjesus is truely alive as i really felt it ad no one can question that because is indescribable and so powerful !thank you lord for the grace and for dying for my sins..when i gave those christians a chance to share gods words to me..i never lost anything but i gained everything..if god dwells in you thats the only time you realize that god is really alive...he was risen from the grave to shed lights to humanity...god created his words into flesh thru the bible so that people would know the truth and wont be deceived,because deception will never be accepted by god as an excuse...again at the end of the day,our religions or those people whom we strongly rely our knowledge about wont be able to help or defend us if we face god..its between us and the lord...we cant justify what we believe because only gods words deserve to be followed and nothing else.remember were dealing here of eternity...we cant make excuses and defend what we believe if we face judgement day,theres no turning back.its not like you have to tell god to give you another chance to go back here and correct you mistakes...im just grateful i knew the truth before its too late...


james 5 years ago

jesus christ is alive..we can talk to him directly like a friend..if your friend is talking to you by using the same words repeatedly as if you dont exist,how do you think you would feel?our god is a living god,he would make us feel him in our hearts if we only welcome him like a friend a savior and our only god.he is a great god,a wonderful saviour...he loves us so much that he died for us..i mean,who do we think we are for him to die for us?!i couldnt even imagine how great christ is for humbling himself and pay the price of our inequities..i admit almost cry everytime i realize how he suffer a lot to to pay for my sins...everyime i hear christian songs that talks about how great our god is..im almost into tears..because even though i sinned a lot,,he is still willing to forgive as long as you repent wholeheartedly..


confused? not anymore :) 5 years ago

Religion is highly debatable so stop being religious accept Jesus as your savior, read the bible coz it will be our only guide. >> "What exactly does God want us to do?" the people asked. Jesus answered, "God wants you to have faith in the one he sent" John 6:28-29 God the Father sent God the Son which is Jesus Christ, and later on died on the cross and rose from the dead and now the Holy Spirit, therefore God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit is the one True God.

Do not argue coz they will never listen . You don't have to defend Jesus, no need coz He's powerful over anything and everything, instead He will defend His desciples. Christians only weapon is prayer>> "Keep away from worthless and useless talk, It only leads people farther away from God. That sort of talk is like a sore that won't heal."

2 Timothy 2:16-17

"Stay away from stupid and senseless arguments. These only lead to trouble." 2 Timothy 2:23

“A sensible person accepts correction, buy you can’t beat sense into a fool” Proverbs 17:10

“Sometimes what seems right is really a road to death.” Proverbs 16:25

Always remember that “We make our own plans but the Lord decides where we will go.” Proverbs 16:9

But if we “Share our plans with the Lord, we will succeed” Proverbs 16:3

“It is useless for you to worship me, when you teach rules made up by humans.” Mark 7:7

If you ignore this Bible verses and still follow man made religion and laws and rituals and symbols made by our ancestors---- “You disobey God’s commands in order to obey what humans have taught. You are good at rejecting God’s commands so that you can follow your own teachings.” Mark 7:8-9

This is not a battle among religions, this is simply a battle between SIN and GOD.

Major barrier to access God is the knowledge of Sin. And it’s sad that we have been deceived for so long for not obeying the commandment in Exodus 20:4-5 "Do not make idols that look like anything in the sky or on earth or in the ocean under the earth. Don't bow down and worship idols. idols made up of gold and silver, and made by hand of man – the woodcarvers. "Worshiper of idols comfort each other, saying "don't worry" Wood carvers, goldsmiths, and other workers encourage one another and say "we've done a great job!" Then they nail the idol down, so it won't fall over" Isaiah 41:6-7

Leviticus 26:30-31 “I’ll destroy your shrines and tear down your incense altars, leaving your dead bodies piled on top of your idols. And you will be disgusting to me. I’ll wipe out your towns and your places of worship and will no longer be pleased with the smell of your sacrifices”

Ezekiel 14:5 “When they hear my message, maybe they will see that they need to turn back to me and stop worshiping those idols.

1 Corinthians 10:14 “My friends, you must keep away from idols.”

Acts 17:29-30 (Youth Bible Global Edition, CEV, page 958-959)

“29Since we are God’s children, we must not think that He is like an idol made out of gold or silver or stone. He isn’t like anything that humans have thought up and made. 30In the past, God forgave all this because people did not know what they were doing. But now He says that everyone everywhere must turn to Him.”

Psalms 135:15-18 (Youth Bible Global Edition, CEV, page 526-527)

“15Idols of silver and gold are made and worshiped in other nations. 16They have a mouth and eyes, but they can’t speak or see. 17They are completely deaf, and they can’t breathe. 18Everyone who makes idols and all who trust them will end up as helpless as their idols.”

Who are those people who have idols / images made up of wood, silver and gold, those idols that cannot hear, cannot speak and cannot see? who among those religion that have images and idols inside their church? I was Roman Catholic before, and we have that images and idols inside our church. And when I read those bible verses about idols, I turned away from man made religion, from those rituals and human laws. I read the bible and now I am Born again Christian.

1 Peter 4:12-19 ( Youth Bible Global Edition, CEV)

SUFFERING FOR BEING A CHRISTIAN

Dear friends, don’t be surprised or shocked that you are going through testing that is like walking through fire. Be glad for the chance to suffer as Christ suffered. It will prepare you for even greater happiness when He makes His glorious return. Count it a blessing when you suffer for being a Christian. This shows that God’s glorious Spirit is with you. But you deserve to suffer if you are a murderer, a thief, a crook, or a busybody. Don’t be ashamed to suffer for being a Christian. Praise God that you belong to Him. God has already begun judging his own people. And if his judgment begins with us, imagine how terrible it will be for those who refuse to obey his message. The Scriptures say, “If good people barely escape, what will happen to sinners and to others who don’t respect God?” If you suffer for obeying God, you must have complete faith in your faithful Creator and keep on doing right.

It’s normal that people argue because I believe that religion divides but Jesus unites. It says in 1 Corinthians 11:19 “You are bound to argue with each other, but it is easy to see which of you have God’s approval.”

"What can we say about all this? If God is on our side, can anyone be against us?" Romans 8:31


Manola Flora 5 years ago

'Confused'......you are definitely not confused anymore. PRAISE GOD!! The TRUTH has set you FREE and you are FREE INDEED!


james 5 years ago

truly your no longer confuse and learned so many great things from opening your eyes into reality and it was indeed a blessing to hear such a wonderful story.

i personally dont want debate whatsoever,but sometimes you need to defend what is real.i just want to share the love that i personally experienced from god then from his people..there are so many christians whom you could really see how god shines on them..

and i just wanna say that i wasnt brainwashed or a a victim of cult or whatever people might think...the fact is, i was once a victim...now im a survivor,i survived deception and that is something i will never ever give up..im just grateful to know and feel how real jesus is.you could never say it unless you personally experience it.:-)


jannetteetanges 5 years ago

I am connected with a born again family by marriage. I have never in my entire life been so mistreated, maligned, or disrespected. In fact, I have not really been treated badly in my life time. I am a happy and intelligent person who loves life. From the beginning, the step daughters set out to 'get me' and treat me with utter disrespect. There are five children. Only one or possibly two are not radically religious. They are absolutely born agains and they are clannish and practice exclusivity among their family setting and especially their religious beliefs. If they ever wanted to convert me or others, it would not happen through their display of unintellectual narrow thinking. They have decided not to talk to their Father for 3 years now (me included) because of reasons that have not been revealed to us, albeit an explanation was requested via letters and email. I have finally (after two years of suffering devaluations) felt protected to some degree by not living in their immediate proximity. Now we are moving even farther away and my husband is ecstatic that we have what he calls 'our refuge and our retreat'. I realize that he means that we are farther out of harm's way and he feels more confident that he can try to live a NORMAL life without the pain of love withheld, affirmation withheld, and cruelty perpetrated by SILENCE. The suffering has never ended as it does not quit with silence. It echoes on through the days and years as his heart is empty of what should be adult childrens' affirmation and adoration. These so called adults range from ages 50 to almost 60. And yet they have not lived long enough to know that God and his Son, Jesus Christ do not want them to act this way in the name of any religion. But I have seen it repeatedly in my life, the hypocritical manner in which one human being treats another. I have seen the born agains act as through animals were here on this earth for their USE only. I had a beloved dog who just recently died. He was one of God's wonderful creatures and he is in heaven now enjoying life without pain. These born agains treated him as though he had the plague. They would move their arms up in disgust and move away from him if he tried to touch their knees. He was an extremely sweet and well behaved dog. But they acted like he was poison because they did not want to affirm anything connected with me. The born again children set out to hate me and they were successful. They made me feel as an outcast and hated and again, they were successful. I tried very hard to be kind to them, to invite them to functions and set the stage for future relationships. They did attend the functions and they snubbed me, belittled me, devalued me, criticized me, and ignored me. One of the children has never once spoken to me, although she was in my presence many times before our marriage. One of the children, now almost age 60, insulted us profoundly at our wedding by one of her actions. Another daughter demonstrated against our wedding and told her Father to have guards at the wedding as she was going to do property damage. There are 50 more stories where these came from. My husband has friends (and he calls them acquaintances only) who originated from the Baptist church he and his born again wife attended. My husband says he has no friends and never did. These people whom I think should have been his friends because he did many nice things for them, have never been kind to him since he married 'a Catholic'. They are extremely judgmental except for one person, a very kind and Christ-like lady who came to help him when his wife was ill. Otherwise, they remain born again, fanatical religious people who never did seem to understand The Golden Rule. As does a person name ROSIE, who posted here, I love the song the baz lurman song...'Don’t be reckless with other people’s hearts, don’t put up with people who are reckless with yours...'

'...the race is long, and in the end, it’s only with yourself''

If these born agains, his adult children would think about and study Christ's actions on this earth, they would realize they are not following in HIS path, in my opinion.

He does have two sons who have from time to time, spoken with him. They have not held grudges as the daughters have. One son who used to call him frequently is no longer calling him though. And so, his heart remains openly wounded by these so-called born again Christians. We have been recently visited by a daughter in law who said that therapists/psychologists are NUTS. And then proceeded to ask that we counsel with her bible study friend who 'might have a major in psyche'. My husband was so disgusted with that. She also stated that we married too fast, and it all happened too fast. She also stated that she thought her children felt he was now unavailable. HE LIVED ONE MILE FROM THIS PERSON AND HER FAMILY FOR 26 YEARS and in that 26 years he tells me HE NEVER ENTERED THE HOUSE, as he was not invited in for a visit, for a meal, etc. So, the blame was thrust upon our marriage, when it reverted back to dysfunction in their family long decades before. Now I and we are paying the price for their dysfunction and are being blamed by the born again people. This story is only a minuscule part of my life altering experience with these people and their born again ways. I hope someone can explain to me, not in biblical terms, but in terms of human explanation what possesses them. I am open to hearing an explanation of what would make a human being claiming to be walking in Christs' ways treat me and my husband, their Father, this way.


james 5 years ago

i wasnt able to read the entire story however i understand your message that those allegedly born again people hurt you so much..not all born again are real born again..some pretend to be one by words but not in actions.there are people whom despite being blessed to know what is right still continues to dwell on thier wicked ways..but dont stereotype it...there are even thousands of catholics,muslims or other religions that are addicts,rapist etc...honestly,i have my own personal struggles as well.and i kept on falling but im still fighting.they are not real born again jane.,again true born again are those who were changed by god.they are just talkers who never walk the talk so dont generalize it..their behavior has nothing to do with other christians..they chose to stay in the dark so its thier choice,so called born agains who are using the word of god in bad ways will be even more accountable in the end...


james 5 years ago

honestly,i dont even tell someone im born again while doing some wicked things and still conforming with the pattern of the world..if you cant take up your cross then better hide it so as not to discourage others..i would say im a believer but not yet a truely born again by deeds because i still kept on falling..so those who are saying that they are born again yet didnt show even a little changes will be more accountable to god..because true born again must stand as a role model to the people the surrounds them.so dont get discouraged..they are just a bunch of hypocrites who use gods glory in vain ..look around and mingle with real born agains and you will see the big difference.


jeff 5 years ago

ISIAIh 41 BRING forth your IDOLS did they PREACH to you see they can’t speak they can’t DO ANYTHING all they do is cause confusion. spalms 115 and spalms 135 thier IDOLS are FALSE cant speak can't hear cant smell and those that make them shall become like them. Jeremiah 10 they nail their IDOL down like a scarecrow it can’t move can'...t speak can’t move must be carried these are nothing but the WORK of CON men.john 10 jesus christ sais his sheep hear his voice and another voice thy will not follow and if another person tries to preach to them they WILL FLEE from him. jeremiah 5 the priests bear rule on their own authority what will you do when your judged my word is not inside them. Now here is the kicker john 5 son of man voice goes back in time mathew 16 jesus christ claims to be the son of man.‎1 cor2 mind of CHRIST preached internally and john 16 sais the spirit of truth comes in the future. Ezekiel 13 lying prophets of ISRAEL my word is not inside them saying god sais god sais god sais wrote hoping mankind would CONFIRM their WORDS. all of this is EASILY verifiable.


james 5 years ago

to jeff:i couldnt agree more!!


Manola Flora 5 years ago

I have known a lady who has always refused to believe in Jesus Christ and God, but believes in some other form of Goddess, I will not name. I once prayed for her (in the name of Jesus) and she did confirm to me that she did feel better after. But she will not believe or want to know this Jesus. Unfortunately as she worshipped this other 'idol', she has now lost her mind, she's seeing a psychiatrist, is taking heavy drugs to calm her down. Her husband and son, don't know what to do with her as she's going crazy, she's imagining things, acting weird and tilting her head forwards and also other strange things. She's become a different person, one who once travelled the world and always smiling to a person who now cannot be recognised as sane, her appearance is also changed, can't even dress anymore. Also hearing someone speaking to her telling her bad things, I know this sounds schitzo but she has become like her idol, how sad that she didn't want to listen to the word of God, can she still be saved from this awful situation? Can anyone advise me please? I can't intervene as the family are seeking only the help of the psychiatrist. I am sad to see her this way cause I never thought this could happen.


confused? not anymore :) 5 years ago

Manola, nothing is impossible in prayer. That's all we can do for that lady.

I have my own struggles too. I am the first one to be a Christian among the family. Since 3rd of April 2011 i accepted Jesus as my only Savior. But my family don't have any idea that i am now a Christian and no longer catholic. I cannot accept those idols anymore who cannot hear cannot see and cannot talk. And I know they will get mad for sure the moment they learned that I am now Born again Christian. Please include my family in your prayer that may God open their spiritual eyes in Jesus name. Thanks :)


james 5 years ago

@manola:just keep on praying because prayer moves mountain

@confuse no more:part of being a christian is persecution,remember that your salvation is way bigger than whatever sacrifices you will have in this world..your family will soon understand it and just keep on praying that they too will be enlightened..better are those who are persecuted in this world for greater are thier rewards in heaven..as what pastor escusa said in his program perfect rythm,those who dont feel persecution are usually those who kept thier faith in silence..if you have time try listen to his podcast because there are so many things you'll learn from it..heres the site http://www.perfectrhythm.fm/...by the way guys,are you all filipinos here?thanx


jannetteetanges 5 years ago

Catholics are Christians.


jannetteetanges 5 years ago

Catholics are Christians also, James. The only person who helped my husband on a weekly basis, with his now deceased wife, when she was very ill, was a CATHOLIC. A Catholic, among born agains.


jannetteetanges 5 years ago

Catholics are Christians also, James. The only person who helped my husband on a weekly basis, with his now deceased wife, when she was very ill, was a CATHOLIC. A Catholic, among born agains. When my husband's wife was well they attended Baptist church. And most born agains that I have known of attend that church (just my experience) and the minister came ONCE to visit in six year's illness. My husband tells me that no other people from this large church of born agains came to visit his wife or help. Just the Catholic woman. And my husband, during his time of attending this church, did a lot of help them. He built things for the church and contributed greatly. But the ENTIRE congregation of this type of people NEVER came to help him. I find this rather revealing. And this anecdote plays a part in the formation of my opinion of these type of 'religious' people.


Elias 5 years ago

Hi there,

I have been very confused lately about being a catholic and a born again. I spoke to my monk about a passage in the bible where Jesus says to us not to pray to anyone but him. So i said to him why do we pray to saints and Mary? He replied "we are not praying to them we are asking for them to pray with us to pray to God and Jesus" now that helped me out a little bit. But there are some things the church do that i disagree with.

Yes, Jesus said there shall be no more priests, but what about monks? Why all of a sudden people seem to think that Mary isn't there to help us with praying?

I have a very close friend, a brother to me, he was with me and cared for me while my father was in hospital for 2 months from almost dieing to two severe heart attacks and 1 life threatening operation, he was exactly how i am now, church every Sunday prayed the rosary, Mary and the saints were in his life, wore the rosary on his neck and had one for his wrist. Until he became born again. Now, he prays straight to God, doesn't ware the rosary and doesn't pray to Mary or the saints. Some believe that saints are anti-Christ with their backup of "saints where not mentioned in the bible so they are not Gods messengers" or something around those lines. But what about after Jesus' time. Saints cannot be anti-Christ. We do NOT pray to them directly. Why would we pray to them? We ask them to help us when we are praying directly to God. Many little things have been confusing me, and my mate has been talking to me about being born again, but in my own belief, i believe that God will see us how we are living on Earth, and if he sees us going about Christianity the wrong way but still mean well by doing all they can to prove they are Christians and devoted to God, I'm sure he wont condemn us, yet praise us.

My friend is like my blood brother and I will always love him no matter what he does or where he turns to, I just want some guidance and if this guidance helps me I'm sure it can help many others. In the end what I think is, if you believe in God and follow his commandments and the beatitudes (Matt5:1-12)you will surely have truly excepted God in your heart.

Thank-you for reading this and I hope we can all accept God in our hearts because there are many different options on how to embrace God and Jesus, but they all have the same outcome and that's having God and Jesus with us.


jannetteetanges 5 years ago

Elias, if I tried very hard, I could not stated my beliefs better than you did in your last two paragraphs above. It is about being a good person on this earth, following the commandments, beatitudes, and The Golden Rule. I do not see every religious person doing that. Yet, it is simple. In Catholic school, we were taught to treat others as we wanted to be treated. We were also taught theology. But, the very basic thing we need to do is treat others well and as we would ourselves wish to be treated. This is a no brainer and a no-fail way to act. Jesus did not judge others, nor was he a hypocrit. He was the opposite. He was humble and he was a 'nice person'. In Catholic school, we were taught to be kind, nice, compassionate, honest, loving, and many other attributes a good person should have. We were not perfect students, but we tried hard. I do not ever remember anyone being unkind to others. When it was time for Prom, if someone did not have a date, someone asked that person to go even if not a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. It was kindness and just being a good human being.


Elias 5 years ago

janetteetangels, i agree with you. I just hope others can see it the way we do :) if not well if they mean well then they shall be rewarded by God and Jesus


confused?not anymore :) 5 years ago

James I am filipino. I go to Victory Christian Fellowship. try to visit www.victoryubelt.org/podcasts download mo yung preaching ni pastor gilbert foliente. sobrang inspiring sya and my mga series and im sure makaka relate ka :) san ka sa pinas?


james 5 years ago

@elias: tell me where in the bible did GOD mention to make the saints as a mediator between us and GOd?marry is human also,she couldn no longer her your prayers,just go directly to the bible bro,in my own personal opinion,catholics put personal knowledge in interpreting the holy bible...and if you dont pray to marry how do you call it then?im so grateful your friend finally seen the light...this is what i can tell you bro..read the bible and listen to god's words...we need to follow his will to us and we need to follow his words not the traditions or beliefs that we used to have...only the bible could give you enlightenment..follow what god tell us to do because he is our savoiur,remember we cant be saved by our religion,it is our personal relationship to jesus..this is what god clearly said roverbs 3:5-6 (New International Version)

5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart

and lean not on your own understanding;

6 in all your ways submit to him,

and he will make your paths straight.[a]

and this is why we pray directly to jesus:

Jesus said to him, `I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.'"

that is very crystal clear bro...so why would we interpret the bible in our own personal

beliefs and knowledge if gods word is so clear..


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Being good doesn't get you to heaven, it's only by the precious blood of Jesus. Only He died for us, God gave His only Son as a sacrifice, the Lamb of God to forgive our sins and wash us clean and if we believe that and make Him the Lord of our lives, He makes us good, because we aren't good. We are all born with the original sin (Adam and Eve). We all have fallen short of the Glory of God, Jesus was the only One who had no sin. On the cross he took our sins and punishment on our behalf, and by His stripes we are healed. No one else can make us good and no one else can intercede for us only Jesus, He's the only One who has access to the Father. Anyway, as christians, not omitting catholics as you think, if we believe in the Trinity, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, that makes us christians, no one is saying that catholics are not christians. No human known that has died can pray for us, where is that written anyway? There is only One Person that has ever resurrected to life after death and that is only JESUS CHRIST, He did that so to give us eternal life. He left the glory of Heaven to come down to this dark earth to give us life eternal, there is no other greater love because of His obedience to the Father and how great must this Love be. He wants to spend eternity with us and how blessed are we when we just believe that, He is the First and He is the Last. No one can ever take His place.


james 5 years ago

@ confused no more..

honestly im not that active in church anymore,but now i felt so guilty for my shortcomings that everytime i hear christian music and the message it conveyed i feel god calling me again,sometimes i can no longer hold my tears because despite of what ive done i still feel that too much love from him.i was a member of victory christian church recto before but now im far from our country.i love victory because of thier strong camaraderie..i felt the friendship and the warm welcome there..ok confused no more ill try to listen to it..i think most of the us replying here are filipinos hehe


james 5 years ago

@confused no more...

GOD really shines on you...isnt it that your a pure and devoted catholic before you finally seen the light?so to janet and elias..we are not different from you,yes we are all christians because we believe in christ..but the question is?do we really read his words and follow his them s as it was clearly written by god?remember we cannot interpret the bible based on our own knowledge as the word of god is so clear already..heaven and earth will pass but his words will still remian..so thats how powerful his words are..he put it into flesh so that we put all our faith on him alone..

when jesus, `I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.'"he said it clearly,so tell me where is marry there as a mediator?we all love marry but we have to understand that marry is human as well.god didnt tell us to call for someone to communcate with our creator ..it is clearly stated that he is the only way..pls let us not distort his words as we will pay the prize in the end.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

By the way, today I finally met up with my old schoolfriends we all went to a catholic school for many years. I'm the only born again, so they know when we talk about stuff, I put Jesus in the conversation. So they know and they laugh and it always gives me the opportunity to ask them where they are with God. Ok, here it is, all 4 of them don't go to church, they admitted they only think of God when they are in trouble, such as sickness, or their kids are out and coming home late, that's when they think of God. It's not a daily thing, they only think of God, but don't do anything at all for His kingdom. They swear, they curse, they speak sickness upon themselves, they have fear. So I fell a bit sad that God is not put first in their life or their children's life, they admitted that God comes last. One of them asked me to pray for her for feeling unwell, and that made me happy even though they laugh at me, I pray with faith in Jesus' Name and God does hear our prayers, and I believe she will be healed (His Will is to heal us) and because she asked for prayer I do pray that God blesses her and will supply her needs. It's been years that we get together once in a while and I've become more closer to God and my church, while they have become further away from Him. I love them with the love of God, I do not judge because I'll be judged too, so I'm gonna get together with them in a few weeks and because they want me to organize meetings, I will do it more often so to let them see the goodness of God, (taste and see that the Lord is Good. It's my priority being born again to spread the Gospel of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, even though we get laughed at, ridiculed and scoffed at, to Him all the Glory and Honour and Praise. It's all about HIM and I will never give up talking His talk and walking His walk. He's made my life complete and His changed my heart and made me glad. I owe Him everything, my life and all. Love you Jesus xxxxx THANK YOU


james 5 years ago

just a suggestion to elias and janet:try to listen to the song "who am i" by casting crown and" i am here to worship" by hillsong or tim hughes..i feel god embracing me everytime i listen to these songs..the messsage it conveyed tells us how loving our god is..and truly i am here to worship him as died for me...sometimes i was really wondering if who am i to deserve gods sacrifices?i am nothing but still he died for me(for each and everyone of us)you see how great our god is?as what confused no more said"god left his glory in heaven andgot punished and crucified to save us"just imagine how much he loves us?i just cry everytime i remember how loving our god is..we are actually nothing!if god would take the oxygen that we are breathing in right now,we could die imidiately..but god loves us so much that he died for us to that we could have everlasting life...so i hope you guys why god solely deserves our praise and worship because he is the only one who died for us so that we could be saved.


james 5 years ago

@manaflora:

by words and by deeds you will know who true christians are,god is happy that you share your faith with them..that is a ussual scenario already,like they just call god if they are in trouble and when they feel god didnt answere thier prayers they will blame god..i mean who do you think you are to blame god for your misfortunes if you dont even remember him during you happy and self satisfied moments..dont they knew that that god is the reason why they exist?true christians are persecuted because they take up the cross with them..tue christians put god not only in thier mind but most importantly in thier hearts..true christians follows the will of god and the not will of this world..true christians fear god..but why people nowadays are conforming in the pattern of the world?

i remember hearing a podcast that they have a member who was ridiculed by catholic friends because shes still a virgin and doenst want to join them in gimmicks or other worldly events..so sum it up..true christian know what is right or wrong in the eyes of god and true christians have spiritual convictions that guides them to what is pleasing gods eyes and to avoid evil things.


james 5 years ago

@janet:tell me where in the bible it says that by your good work youll get saved?

just to remind you what god clearly said"phesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

i felt sad everytime someone died and they would say he was in heaven because he has so many charitable works..its kind of sad because although good works is hihgly acknowledge by god, he clearly said that it is grace and thru faith in him that we'll get saved..if you are truly a christian,you will definitely have a humble and compassionate heart,because god changed you,you learn to love the people and good works will follow next..true christians are loving because christ dwells to them so extending a helping hand is already expected..but good works alone wont save you..that is crystal clear from the word of our almighty god.

another misinterpratation is we can go to heaven because we are nice..we cant save ourselves alone..we need god to save us..we dont have power to save our souls by being nice alone..it is the grace of christ that offers salvation..again this will be followed by being true christians means living a christ like life..because if god truly dwells in you,you become a new person..a loving humble and other good characteristic of being a true man of god.


james 5 years ago

im not here for a debate as god wants us to have to have enlightenment and not debate..

all i could say is,if your faith is based purely in the word of god then your at the right path.

i personally acknowledge that i couldnt change myself by my own strength..i was so helpless and admit that i can no longer change myself thats why god came to the rescue.i admit that my i dont have power to be a good person in the eyes of god.because mostly,what do we think is good as human might not be pleasing to gods sight .how good of a person do you think you are to save your soul?isnt it that the reason why jesus was crucified because of his word"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; - Romans 3:23"


james 5 years ago

another catholic beliefs that i cant understand is about venial and mortal sins..most of my friends and cathlolic people that i knew just kept on doing sins which for them are not a sin at all..like gambling adultery pornication premarital sex gossiping.judging,cursings,peaking bad words,dring alcohol smoking etc.like if youre a guy its ok to have sex as long as you do it safely because thats normal part of being a man,and some girls do premarital sex because virginity is no longer a big issue in this modern world.some would even make it a joke that you will only live once so why not enjoy life to the fullest!!yes god wants us to enjoy our lives to the fullest but it must be in a way that is pleasing to his sight,and the main reason why were here is to worship him.remember"the world might be changing tremendously and becomes extremely wicked,but gods words and order never change forever...im not saying im perfect like i never sinned before..i admit im sinning,but i have the holy spirity inside of me talking to me that i sinned against the eyes of the lord,and i feel guilty and ask god for forgiveness...again thats the difference of becoming a bibles based christian to other form of christianity..the conviction of the holy spirit that makes you

aware of you actions.again to janet,im talking here about true christianity so if you had a bad exeperience against those who called themselves born again yet never show any spirit of true christianity,then they were all accountable to god.there is such a thing as born again by words and by deeds..and there are others who are claiming to be born again yet they dont walk the talk and they are called hypocrit for using the glory of god in vain..


Manola Flora 5 years ago

We are not of the world we follow Jesus, I've been told by members of family that call themselves catholic, that when you die there's nothing else. We are only here to have a good time and then you die. My goodness, is that what life is all about? And they answer, YES!!! God wants the best for us and of course to have a good time and I do especially since I follow Him, I want more of Him in my life every second of the day. If I fix my eyes on Jesus I don't have any fear, just fear of the Lord, and that's a healthy fear. When I fail in something, I do feel guilty cause I don't want to hurt Him who made me.I don't have to go to a 'man' to ask for forgiveness, he's also a sinner, but I go to Him who saved me and I am truly forgiven.

James I like the scriptures you quote, they are so true and so right. I once never read the bible but now as I read it daily and also taught at church on Sundays and other programmes, like homegroups or lifegroups that we have I know the word of God and how true it is not to harm us but to bless us. He is a God of blessing. He has great plans for his people if only they would follow.


james 5 years ago

@manola flora:

actually i got all of those bible verses here in the internet..i admit i wasnt able to read the bible anymore but i have knowledge about gods words and his true teachings and no one can deny the fact that once you accepted him you feel him an undescribable feeling, because jesus is alive and he hears those prayers that comes from the heart..ill get a bible for myself soon.just imagine that it was a long time ago since i go to chruch,i run from god but now he keeps on calling me to comeback and run towards him..thats how amazing god is...he is always willing to forgive and accept you as long as your heart is pure for the repentance of your sins.

all of my friends are catholics and they are used to see me going along with them in almost everything that is not pleasing to gods sight..im sure they will find me weird if i wont join them in some stuffs that are not right and pleasing to god anymore..i knew if i post some worship songs in the facebook they would redicule me because they are not used to it ...but now im ready to share the good news..

i dont care if they will redicule me because what matters most is how god sees me..my friends wont save me but jesus will give me everlasting life..so id rather loss all of them than lloss jesus..life is temporary.you cant have them forever so if they will d mock me for my faith then ill accept it..i would even love them and show mercy for they do not know what they are doing.

thats my deepest prayer,that god would make me pleasing to his sight and be able to conquer the world thru his power..its not easy but no matter how hard i fell,i will stand up and fight the fight.


james 5 years ago

this is for everyone:

we have no right to fabricate or modify gods words as it is finally written as clear as crystal.god said we must not lean on our own understanding..at the end of the day,no priest or man made traditions that could defend you in front of god..you cant fool god like insisting that "this is what i learned from my religion"because the main reason why gods words came into flesh(the bible)is for us not to be decieved"..but if we keep on insisting what our religion tells us..then i felt so sad because there is a very costly price for disobeying the word of god...we are talking here of everlasting destination and theres no turning back anymore once were gone.bible is the bread of life,gods word is unchanging unbreakable unmodifiable..heaven and earth will pass but his words will stil remain...so pls lets us follow god thru his words and not modify or make any deviating interpretations of his his holy words..god bless everyone


Manola Flora 5 years ago

James, God is definitely doing something mighty in your life and the lives of people you will touch. I really would love to send you a bible as a gift. Is it possible for you to send me your email address so I can get your details I would really love to do that. That's only if you don't mind, it would be my pleasure to bless you.


james 5 years ago

@manola: i really appreciate that but im too far away from my country right now..by the way im a filipino,are you a filipino manola?if so then in as much as i wanted to get that priceless gift from im kind of sad that im too far from the philippines right now..but i truly appreciate your kindness thank you so much.god bless


james_23 5 years ago

yep you can add me in your account..but i want to give you my email privately for safety purposes..thanx


confused? not anymore :) 5 years ago

James im going to Saudi Arabia maybe end of May or 1st or 2nd week of June. Bible is prohibited in Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. I ask God why is this happening. I mean, I'm just a baby Christian and when I started reading the bible, that's the same time i need to go to Saudi Arabia to work. I don't know what will happen to me when i get there. I can't bring my Bible. How can i live without my only guide beside me? Im just praying that God will strengthen me. Im just always thinking about this verse...

"Don't worry about anything, but pray about everything. With thankful hearts offer up your prayers and requests to God" Philippians 4:6

Good thing, i can read the Bible online. :)

Manola and James, can i ask for your email add? or Facebook? you can send your email add to podcastvcf@gmail.com

thanks and Godbless :)


james 5 years ago

if its really prohibited,then you still have the online..so theres no one or nothing that can hinder your faith..internet is not only for the worldly,it its for the godly people us well so that the word of god would be available everywhere and you can reach someone for christ here as well..though having a bible with you everywhere is still much different..take care and god bless..GOD he is everywhere so everywhere you may go,you always have him as your constant companion.take care


Manola Flora 5 years ago

James did you get my response on your James_ 23 account?


Faith 5 years ago

The Bible is prohibited and the Saudi Officials block anything in the internet that's related to Christianity...I've been there and studied high school there so I know.

I just want to share something...I'm not sure if this is universal to all Born Again, but I had a boyfriend who was BA and well I was sort of expecting us to get married any time when I was in my 20's.

I was really happy when he proposed...but then he started persuading me to change my faith (I'm Catholic Christian) because he said that he can't marry me if I'm not BA. I was shocked. He actually wanted me to CHOOSE between my religion and my love for him.

I rejected him.

I should have probably noticed that in the years that we had been together, he kept bringing me to these gatherings with other friendly people (He said it was a Christian gathering - which I thought that time, meant Christianity and Born Again, because really, Roman Catholics ARE CHRISTIANS)

They were friendly, but I felt a little awkward in those times because I'm not the type to feel close to others that easily. He kept introducing me to people and saying "She's NEW". I didn't really mind that. But at that time he was actually saying that I had already converted because I loved him.

I felt betrayed by him. He keeps telling me that it's more fun and more intimate as a BA and that you have a closer relationship to our Lord Jesus Christ.

I really felt insulted as a person and as a Catholic Christian. He was implying that I was not as close to God as a Born Again is.

What right does he have to say that I'm not as close to God as he and his BA friends and family are? He was like a child saying Mommy loved him best and that Mommy loved me but not as much.

It really hurt to hear that. He was like a different person to me, when I started saying that I love him, but I cannot leave my faith. I asked him why we couldn't be together just because of that.

As far as I know, the Catholic Church does not impose you to marry someone Catholic (it's convenient but does not force you to have the person change their belief). I mean I loved the guy because of who he was and not because of his religion.

I have relatives and friends who have dual beliefs in the family (e.g. Male Catholic Christian, and a Female Muslim, Female Catholic Christian, Male Shintoist) and they don't have any problems and don't insult the Faith of others.

So do BA impose that just so they would increase in number? Never have I called Born Again as simply "Christians" because Roman Catholics are Christians as well. If I was asked if I was Christian, "YES I AM, I'M A CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN."

I read the Bible and my Faith is strong. I tell God everything and thank him and praise him. I feel that he is always with me even through my sins, difficulties and happiness.

SO what is so good about being BA? I'm not trying to offend, but really, it's just the same. You can talk to God freely with or without the recited prayers as a Catholic Christian.

You say that we do things wrong and not based on the Bible. I wonder, isn't the Bible accounts of when Jesus walked the Earth as a mortal? Was the Born Again there when Jesus was a mortal?

Definitely not.

And please do not post long, numerous, and repetitive Bible quotes to prove your point, because you are just using God's words to your advantage.

@Manola = you are just like my boyfriend's converted BA mother. She always said that she didn't care about religion as long as you believe in God Almighty and the Lord Jesus Christ...but she was the one who kept pushing her son to change into a Born Again.

Every conversation with her was a SUBTLE reminder that Catholic Christians are not as close to God as Born Again.

I kept my mouth shut and smiled all time to not offend her because WHATEVER I SAID, she would COUNTER WITH A BIBLE QUOTE as if EVERYTHING I SAY WITH FALL UNTO DEAF EARS.

It was as if she was ASSURING HERSELF not ME that the path she chose had been the right one and didn't want to hear of my supposedly HERETIC and ILLOGICAL statements.

As a final note, I have Muslim friends since I studied in Saudi Arabia when I was in High School. I feel angry and sad that here in the Philippines they are misjudged as "TERRORISTS". Stupid really. (YES UNRELATED but whatever)

I needed to get this out of my chest because of that Doomsday thing yesterday(May 21, 2011). The people kept on and on about, "ALL TRUE BORN AGAIN WILL BE RAPTURED."

Really, so all other people should convert their Faith or be completely ignored by God. Christians probably have that small chance, but what about Muslims, Buddhists, etc.?

To say something like that is VERY INSENSITIVE, INHUMANE to others, NARCISSISTIC and SELFISH.

The only good thing I see in Born Again is that most of them are very outgoing and would be good for PR jobs. But yes I feel awkward with them because I'm not that extroverted. I like making slow, meaningful relationships since I don't really have their charisma and charm. P.S. DON'T MAKE THIS PARAGRAPH INTO A BIG DEAL BECAUSE BEING OUTGOING REALLY IS MORE OF AN INDIVIDUAL THING. DEPENDS ON YOUR PERSONALITY, REALLY.

Anyway,

GOD BLESS! Regardless, I wish for everyone to find their Faith (whether Born Again or Catholic Christian, Islam, etc.)...

...Because Faith is really something powerful that holds a person together, gives them something to hope for and hold onto.

If you believe that there is no God, so be it, I don't judge nor force people into my beliefs. As long as you are happy and well in your life, and do not cause others misfortune, you are a good person to me.

I also pray that all people deserving (whatever your Faith is) reach Heaven when the real END comes.


Faith 5 years ago

CORRECTION - 5th Paragraph:

I should have probably noticed that in the years that we had been together, he kept bringing me to these gatherings with other friendly people (He said it was a Christian gathering - which I thought that time, meant Christianity and not only Born Again, because really, Roman Catholics ARE CHRISTIANS)

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CORRECTION - 21st Paragraph:

I kept my mouth shut and smiled all time to not offend her because WHATEVER I SAID, she would COUNTER WITH A BIBLE QUOTE as if EVERYTHING I SAY WILL FALL UNTO DEAF EARS.


james 5 years ago

#faith 4,

interestingly,god is bigger than you are...he is not trying to convert you,youre bf is trying to make you close to god in a biblical manner...its not between you and the religion..its between you and GOD..we are not runing any religion here is it cant save you,our faith is merely based on the bible and not to any man made traditions that could mislead you,god is bigger than your catholic faith.he is the only way the truth and the life(faith is about knowing god personally and not knowing god based on teaching of any religions ..you should feel great because instead of bringing you to otherp worldly places (like motel,gimmicks etc)that is ussally being pracitced by non believers)..you must be pround instead that your Bf is a GOd fearing man..yes you are a christian there is no doubt on that,but the question s..do you 100% follow the order of god as it was written in the bible?born again people were not changed by themselves but they were changed by god thru the guidance of the holy spirit..its not about converting you to another religion..its about creating a personal relationship to god.

so tell me now?did your bf became a bad influence to you or did he actually brought you closer to god which apparently you misinterpreted...born again didnt rely on thier beliefs but rather it was based 100% on the bible.,and your bf is not pushing you to have fellowship with those people,,he simply shwo you that true christians are united by god,they chose to care for each other as god wants them to grow stronger and share the same biblical faith..now tell me?did you hear any bad words or are those people tried to influence you in a wrong way?

if you chose to leave you bf because you think he treated you bigger than his religion..im so sorry you got the wrong misinterpretation..you didnt reject the religion but you rejected god because your bf was an instrument only for you to have known god more intimately...

ture christians choses god more than people...god is always the center of relationship and god is greater than anything else..read you bible and seek the truth and pray hard for god himself will justify all your questions..god is not a religion..he is our saviour and he is the only one who can save us...i personally dont put my faith on any religions as gods word is clearly writteb to guide us and enlighten our paths..god bless us all


james 5 years ago

@manola,

yep i recieved it and actually replied to your email,did you recieve my reply?

@faith 4,

fyi,we dont live in these world just for ourselves..we live for god..the main reason why where here is to worship him..his word is the bread of life and we must live thru his words..so tell me whats wrong if your bf tries to qoute verses from the bible with you?isnt it that god said we must love him with all our heart souls and strentgh? isnt it that if someone read you verses from the bible you must be happy because gods word is bigger trillion22222 times than our knowledge? if you believe in god you must read and follow all his words any all your heart strength and soul.

maybe then you deserve a catholic bf if you hold strongly with your catholic faith...and your bf deserves to have a born again gf that shares the same faith with god...again and again....we live by gods words...we dont live by following other beliefs aside from god alone...now tell me?did your bf rely on his personal belief to convert you what you said?or he just 100% rely on what the bible(the true word of god) says?

sometimes we must learn to give wordly things even if it cost us the much..sometimes being a true christians sacrifice things in this world for the glory of god..though i felt bad you parted ways,your bf is so loyal to god not to compromise him,he chose god more than you..he didnt chose religion more than you,i just want to emphasize on that


james 5 years ago

sorry for the typos,i mean give up instead of give...just learn to understand my post because i really cant type well..

@faith4....only the word of god thru the guidance of the holy spirit can explain to you why you bf has that big faith on god...as god said:

Proverbs 3:5-6 give God's guidance for life Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct your paths. These words challenge believers to put more confidence in God's ability than in their own, to not try to analyze and figure out every detail themselves, but to place their belief in God's wisdom, love and strength, to lean on God instead of relying on themselves or anyone else.


james 5 years ago

faith4 said:And please do not post long, numerous, and repetitive Bible quotes to prove your point, because you are just using God's words to your advantage

im sorry but dont judge us that were using this for our advantage..if your truly believer of god you must follow 100% of what is written in the bible..we must not lean not on our own understanding..and isnt it sthat god told us to share the gospel....so what do you want us to do?to base our answeres on own personal beliefs instead of the bible?im sorry to offend you but true christians dont deviate from gods teaching as gods word is holy and sharper that double edged sword..we live not to gratify ourselves but to glorify god because he is bigger than us and in this world..we love god so much that we follow what exactly his words are written...we dont debate with everyone,we just defend gods words...we dont put modifications or self interpretations of the bible because gods words is more than enough to sustain and justify our love for him..god is bigger than anything else in this world...if we make his words us the basis of answering questions,it is because we rely wholeheartedly in his words and not on our own wisdom and personal interpretations.


faith 5 years ago

maybe before you question your bf's faith,it would have been better if you question first if what is the basis of his faith?is religion bigger than god?is religion teaching better than gods teaching?is religions interpretation better than gods crystal clear interpretation of his holy words?now i want to ask you?did your bf fabricated words and beliefs that deviate from gods words?or just your boy friend just fear and love god that he put 100% of his heart and soul into it?

we have no right to question nor modify what is written in the bible as we'll be held accountable to him...

faith,your bf loves you so much that he wants to have a healthy and god centered relationship with you...we are all weak and we need god at all times as a foundation of our strength and faith..his faith is just for god and no one else..its not based on religion but based on personal relationship with the creator..its hard o justify unless to feel it personally..because the work of the holy spirit is much bigger than our own understanding..


james_23 5 years ago

sorry i mean wrong interpretation and not wrong misinterpretation...too many typos i just cant modify it anymore..

anyway,im sorry once again faith4 if you say that the only difference between born agans and other religions is the "pr and being out goers"...you cant fathom gods kindness that led them to be proud and showy of their newly found faith..you cant explain it unless you personally experienced it..they didnt change themselves..god changed them..are you a filipino?i just want to give you example..angelu deleon admitted she was so wicked and by gods grace she was a change person now and proudly testify to everyone how god change her,rica peralejo admitted she was a worldly person and now married a pastor husband,they are now testifying gods grace and encouraging everyone to have a pure and god fearing relationship..both of them and in fact most of the christians acknowledge that by their efforts we wont be able to change themselves..only the power of god thru his holy spirit can make a person new if we accepted god wholeheartedly..one of the leader of the magdalo that hated the government so badly he was one of those who uprise against our govt finally seen the light and now a different person and admitted war is not the answere but rather gods love..they all encountered god in a marvelous and indescribable way that they were changed in a way that they didnt even imagine it...real born again dont pretend to be righteous...it is gods purpose for thier lives that made them a renewed and much better person..what you see is an expression of joy that they want to share to everyone because everyone deserves salvation and everyone deserves to truly feel gods love..if your bf doesnt tru;y loves you,he could have concealed his faith,but since he found the light thru christ he shared it you so that you will have a fruitful and pure relationship that is pleasing to gods sight.


james_23 5 years ago

@faith4,

i wish i personally knew your bf as i wanna make fellowship with him.i just want to thank him for his unwavering faith..and i just want to thank him for making god as center of his life that he made a lot of sacrifices and will be rewarded in the end...im a christian but i must admit im not as strong as him..i have the tendency to compromise my faith to justify my personal desire..and i kept on praying that someday soon my faith will be as strong as them.i admire those people who are willing to give up their personal happiness just to follow and please god..

god died for me to save me from eternal damnation,he is a very loving god and his love endures forever..so if your boy friend worship him every minute of his life,its because god deserves all the praises as we are nothing without him...

we can show our love to god by obeying his words thru the bible..because the word was put into flesh to shed lights to those who are in the dark..god bless you


james_23 5 years ago

born again is a personal experience if you accepted god as lord and savior with all your mind heart and soul,he will come into your heart and soul and indescribabyl change you.the has gone and new and great things have come..it is not a religion,it is a personal relationship with christ.his mother wasnt converting him to a religion..his mother loves her son that she wants her son to experience the everlasting joy and indescribable feeling of having the living god dwelling in his life so that he will have guidance and fear fear of god..its is much better to draw you child close to god than close to the world..it is much better to teach your child to fear and love god than to let your child go astray and become a bad person or induldge into worldly things...your bf is a man,you know that in a normal ungodly beliefs,it is normal for a man to have sex with women as part of manhood,it is normal for anyone to go to party and dance all night long while intoxicating themselves into alcohols etc just for the sake of enjoynment..but gods doesnt want us to live a sinful life like that..he wants us to avoid sins because those ungodly acts can kept us away from holy god...god wants us to follow the right path and not to be one with this wicked world...now tell me?did his mother influence him badly?

i had a friend before who was trouble maker and so worldy,but when she knew and personally experienced god she was changed tremendously and really experienced the real meaning of becoming born again.she became loving understanding and soft spoken person,but to my surprise she was cursed and abused by her mother because her mother said she would rather have a bad daughter as long as she stays in their religion..sometimes i cant understand but god will surely reward those who are persecuted..as jesus said:

If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.... If they persecuted Me they will persecute you... for they do not know the One who sent Me." John 15:19-21


james_23 5 years ago

i was once a catholic before and we all catholics share the same faith before ..what makes me difference and those others who now left catholic faith is the reality that god opened our hearts...let the light shine..i humbly accept my mistakes and ask god for forgiveness and now he changed me.i can feel how alive and powerful he is..everytime i worship him i feel his spirit rushing thru my soul..an experience that is so hard to describe yet so true and indescribably awesome...and i now knew that i live for god alone,that im ready to follow him with all my heart and sould..i will never be blinded again and i will always live by his words until the day that i die...

hilippians 1:21, "For me to live is Christ, and to die is gain."

i still compormise sometimes but i pray hardly to god to make me a strong christian because only to him will i experience pure joy and love...god bless everyone


james 5 years ago

different not difference etc hehe..sorry guys i could hardly type and sp lazy to edit before posting it hehe


james 5 years ago

2faith4: this is the biblical answere to your question why born again needs to find someone who shares the same faith with them:

Should a Christian date a non-Christian? This question is considered by most, if not all, single Christians at some point. The term "equally yoked" comes from 2 Corinthians 6:14:

"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?" (NASB)

The concept goes all the way back to Deuteronomy 22:10:

"You shall not plow with an ox and a donkey together." (NASB)

What about Missionary Dating?

Missionary dating is a Christian dating a non-Christian for the purpose of evangelism; at least that's what they claim. I believe most people who do this have the wrong motivation. Instead of doing to to glorify God and lead the person to Christ, they do it because they are attracted to the person and they figure if they can lead him or her to Christ then it will be okay to date and, possibly, marry this person. They're probably feeling desperate and/or impatient, and they don't want to limit their options by restricting the pool of available partners to Christians only. For every person you can show me who did this successfully, I can show you ten people who are married to non-believers and are miserable. It's a really bad idea and it's wrong. You should never date someone unless you believe there might be the potential for marriage, and since God has commanded us NOT to marry non-Christians, then you should not date them either. Even if the person did get saved, now you have a "baby Christian" who will not be as spiritually mature as you. You're still unequally yoked to some extent, and that does not lead to a fulfilling relationship.

Early in my walk with the Lord, I found myself in this very situation. I was attracted to a girl I worked with, and we went out a couple of times. I thought "She'd be great if she'd come to know the Lord." The funny thing was, she ended it because it was obvious to her that we were not compatible. She was used to hanging around with people who drank, smoked and said crude things, and I was very different than that so it made her uncomfortable. She actually cried as she told me this. She apparently didn't know how to respond to someone who treated her with respect and kindness.

Brothers and sisters, don't compromise. Be patient (please read my article Patience) and wait for God's best. Don't give in to the temptation to date a non-Christian and then think you can lead them to the Lord. Are you going to disciple them and help them mature and catch up with you spiritually as well? I don't think so.

"The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."

-- John 1:5 (NASB)

im not saying that your unbeliever of christ..but born again have their own exceptional faith to god alone and no one else..being true christian worships GOD not only on suday but in every breath that they take.true christians commit their lives to GOD.true christians follow GOD's words and do not conform with the pattern of this world.and true christians based their beliefs in the bible which is the true words of GOD rather than the teaching of some man made traditions that can decieve person.

we believed that christ died for us,so we must worship him every moment of our lives.he is our strentgh and refuge and he dwells in every hears who truly accepted him as personal lord and savior.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

No James, I didn't receive your reply.

Faith, your boyfriend truly found the way and he wanted you to do the same, there's nothing wrong with that.

James has said all the things you need to know. The bible scriptures that are quoted shouldn't make you upset, it's the True Word of God, why would that bother you. We are not ashamed to share His Word and it's all christians duty to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Also you must know that not all religions lead to heaven. There is only one way......that's Jesus, there's no other!

Also Faith, if I do sound like your bf mother, that's ok we want the best for our children I'm glad he listened to her, I'm still praying for my daughter and hope one day soon she'll follow Jesus too. She has no peace in her life until she's truly born again.


james_23 5 years ago

manola i send it now thru this site..

@faith: i just want to tell you that we are not doing this to put you down or any other desires aside from letting you know that GOD is the center of our lives..that true christians follows

GOD in every step of the way and that they never lean on their own understanding but faithfully obey GODS words..because i believe that true christians must know GOD not only by mind but by heart and soul as well...we cant say that we know GOD without even knowing what his holy scripture is...we believe only in GOD and follows his words rather than following whatever man made traditions that could possibly deceive humanity.theres no point of argument here,just talk to GOD ike he is your friends accept him as your personal lord and savior and read his words and you'll surely understand why we chose to stay with him every breath that we have.i dont say im a perfect person,im nothing withuot god..im a wicked person and couldnt change myself by my own effort,and thats the main reason why i need GOD,becuase though im weak,he remains faithful and strong for me..again this is not about religion..this is about relation..a personal relationship to the living god..just read the bible and pray and surely he enligthen your path...we love you a GOD loves you,and we are not here to put each other down..we are here to help each grow with our faith to the almigthy GOD..as no noe written above that could save us other than jesus christ...to god be the glory and honor..every oxygen that we breath comes from him,so we must live according to his will and lean not on our own understanding as GODS knowledge is infinitely higher than ours..just trust GOD completely with all your heart and soul..we have to spread the gospel as GOD wants us to be with him forever


Faith 5 years ago

PLEASE READ EVERYTHING HERE, OR NOT READ IT AT ALL. (Partial reading may lead to false accusations and wrongly made conclusions). Thank you.

I'm sorry to say but somehow you both have just proved my point of not totally understanding me or in other words you put people down (without probably really intentionally doing it). I mean it's like you just put salt over my wound when you say things like "Oh it's good he chose his faith instead of you."

It's like what you said to the girl before in this site. I saw that she commented how she lost her relationship with her partner because of him turning BA. It's not really therapeutic to say that her bf did the right thing and implying she was probably the cause.

You're just again forcing everything on her. That she should be BA and stuff like that.

Wouldn't it be better if you didn't have to force the person you loved to change for you? To let them decide for themselves instead of pushing your beliefs on them?

If he wanted to share his faith, he could share it to me...but not to the point that he would not marry me if I didn't choose to become Born Again.

That is just SELFISH and INSENSITIVE.

GOD wanted us to love, to share love, give love, be loved...He never once said that you can only love those with the same Faith as you (the same beliefs, etc.)

@James you say that "You shall not plow with an ox and a donkey together." (NASB). I understand the metaphor and all, but we are human. Obviously an ox and a donkey would not be able to see eye to eye (THEY ARE MILES DIFFERENT). But two people with different beliefs can still see eye to eye as long as they come to understand each other's beliefs, respect them, and NOT JUDGE THEM.

To Roman Catholics, the same beliefs is a convenience not a requirement. We promote Love and Respect.

To Born Again, it seems to be a requirement. Conflicts may obviously arise due to Disrespect and Ignorance.

@Manola, I guess I said it wrong, but I meant his mother kept pushing him to TURN ME born again. I learned this through the hard way and I'd rather not disclose how exactly I found out.

I felt betrayed by his mother, always saying that she liked me and that I shouldn't ever change...then being the person who was pushing him to do that...to me it's just plain lying.

AGAIN you have put words into my mouth by saying that Bible scriptures make me upset. THEY DO NOT. I JUST HATE THAT PEOPLE USE THEM IN THEIR ARGUMENTS. It's like using God's name in vain (I'm sorry, but this is what it seems like to me).

I know that you wish to share what you’ve read and all that. I have READ the Bible therefore quoting them is not necessary for this.

Don't get me wrong, I READ the Bible so how can you say that I get upset because of them. If you read my post, this is one of the reasons that I refuse to become BA. It seems as if you're ALWAYS SAYING THAT WE ARE THE WEAKER CHRISTIANS AND YOU ARE CLOSER TO GOD THAN THE REST OF US.

HOW DARE YOU?

You may not be ashamed of sharing His Word but isn't it that you should not hold PRIDE so much that it seems CONCEITED and SELFISH?

So Ms. Manola, you are then confirming my statement that you believe ONLY BORN AGAIN will ALL GO TO HEAVEN. I would no longer challenge that since it is your belief obviously and whatever I say may do nothing.

But I do wonder, do you mean to say, all the people in the world, especially those in non-Christian countries, are born to be doomed? Especially if they have a strong belief in their own Faith and refuse to turn to a different one?

I am looking at this both in the religious and scientific/logical point of view because obviously you are implying again that BA is a superior Faith...that all others will not be saved because they are not Christians.

It seems to me that you have not befriended a lot of people with different Faith. I have been surrounded by different ones and I still stuck to my own, but that doesn't mean that I would persuade my friends and family to follow my chosen path.

I share with them my Faith, but not in a way that I would say that I am the only one to be saved because I am a Catholic Christian, like you are obviously constantly doing.

The world is so full of change, diversities and contradictions. It is not wrong to be different.

I know you love your Faith. I do too with my own, but you cannot exclude all others and say you are the only one really close to the Lord. This belief is childish. As I said it's like a girl telling her sibling: "Mommy loves me more than you, I am closer to her than you."

@James: You say that Born Again is not a religion, but a personal relationship with God. How is Catholic Christianity again different from this? I know that I also have a close personal relationship with the Lord.

If it is not a religion, then is it an organization? Because why then would it require one's spouse to be BA as well? Why do you have practices that seem to make BA a sect of Christianity (In a way that you still believe in Jesus Christ but practice different ways to be with him, such as not doing the Sign of the Cross)

NOTE: Please don't dwell on the practices or explain why you don't do this or that. I just want to extract my point that to me BA seems like another Christian sect.

Oh by the way. Obviously you have not been a Catholic for long, if you say that we worship God only on Sundays.

Every millisecond of my life is filled with Him. Yes we say prayers that are repeated, but this is a part of how we wish to start our conversations. WE TALK TO HIM, so do not assume that we only pray memorized lines, and do so only if we are in need.

I'm sorry for those went on separate ways from the person they loved due to conflicts in belief, but in my case, we didn't break up because of belief, but rather the persistence to PUSH me into something I have politely refused over and over was my breaking point.

Obviously, he had grown tired of forcing me as well.

I am going to report to you though, that after 5 years of being away from each other, my bf had started asking me to be with him again on December 2010(He found me through my Facebook Account).

He kept saying that he would go back to Catholicism for me. His mother has been fighting him for 2 years now to stay as a Born Again.

I told him to NOT leave his mom and to STAY with his Faith as a Born Again.

I told him that he did not understand the reason for us breaking up. It was certainly not because of his Faith.

He should have known better than that because my best friends are Muslims (since I studied in K.S.A.) I don't really mind if a person has a different belief from mine.

He thought that difference in Faith was our problem. This was because he was the one with the problem with MY Faith. He wanted me to be BA, but I refused. I stayed strong to my one and only Faith.

Currently, he has left his mom, and I haven't heard from him since. I found this out from his mom (I added her for the fact that we DID have a bond in the past).

She was furious with me. She said "YOU ARE THE REASON MY SON LEFT! HE'S ALSO PROBABLY TURNED INTO A BUDDHIST BY NOW OR WORSE! A MUSLIM!" (She was hysterical and started insulting different religions.)

I told her I was sorry, but I haven't reunited with her son and that his belief is his choice. I had no power over that matter.

She still keeps writing angry notes on my wall. I let her do that, because it's probably something that helps her relieve her sadness and anxiety.

I don't attempt to defend the religions she insults because if I said anything, she would probably make that into something worse and more misunderstandings would arise.

RESPECT OF RELIGION = WORLD PEACE

(yes, in line with the history of the world, Religion is one of the things that cause conflict due to disrespect, NOT LISTENING and ignorance)

NOTE: Please read fully. I want to reply to a comment that is HEARING WHAT I'M SAYING, NOT HEARING WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR.

(If I do have mistakes in the way I stated them, I apologize and I would do my best to explain what I meant)


james_23 5 years ago

im telling you im not different from anyone who rediculed true christians before..i was like saying"they will only live once so why not enjoy life to the fullest like going to gimmicks.partying,indulging in so many stuffs that the world could offer,im like a typical person who doesnt care long as i enjoy my life to the fullest...im not judging catholics but if you open yourself into realiy without defending it then you surely understand my point here..i was sorrounded by all catholics friends,and when i was still studying we always think of how to enjoy life..some of them go to beerhouses to womanize and drink till they get intoxicated,some would go for drugs,some women would engage in prematrital sex as it is now normal and being a virgin is no longer an issue these days..bad words is just part of the conversation and sharing sexual expriences and making women as a sex objects are always a topic during drinking sessions..and i never thought it was wrong,though honestly im not as bad as that even before i became a true christians(because my sibling and mother is woman as well,so why not respect them?only then i realize that many women dont care anymore as they want equality with men)..then there was a guy who shared to me the gospel,,typical reaction is..who do you think you are trying to be holy?you think youre the only one who knows god?though deep in my heart i admire them because they live a simple yet happy life.

i felt so much emptiness in my heart..i dont know how to be happy anymore and i just lost my peace of mind..and those christians who shared the gospel with me look so happy and content despite having a boring life..so i begun to wonder if what is something on them that i didnt have?i mean isnit it that i could have been happier than them because im enjoying my life to fullest and they were living a boring life..they dont even go to the bars,drink,and smoke and they dont have friends aside from them sharing the same boring lifestyles yet them seemed to be satisfied..that was the time where i begun to have queitons in my lmind...then they never gave up on me,i felt too much love and compassion..they never judged me and they were so different the way they act and talk.so i decided to join them..and to make the story short..god spoke to me and make me feel like i still deserve his love despite the wickedness that i have(though if i based it in my catholic faith i still could go to heaven because my sins is not bigger that theirs and i love to help my friends and i love to share my money and food as long as i have,i will always try to be generous because i always though that good works will bring me to heaven if i die,after all how i will know!i never read nor listen to a bible since i was born,i only rely my knowledge on the priest and ofcourse my own personal beliefs)..that was the first time i cried out so loud to god cause i felt his holy spirit embracing me,indescribable feeling...now i knew the secret to a happy life...being with the lord..the world only comes to destroy you but God is there to love you and show you the real meaning of life..i never had peace of mind before until i met our creator...

there i realize that being born again is allowing god to work in your life rather than you manipulating your life.i begun to listen to the biblical preaching and everytime i listen to christian songs i feel gods indescribable love,sometimes i tried to hold my tears but i simply couldnt,his power is too strong for me to resist..

@fait: im telling you im a very skeptical person..if i didnt experience god personally i will never ever change my catholic faith..but truly if GOD calls you then theres nothing you can do but submit and obey. how grateful i am for despite hurting him so much..he just loves me endlessly you in return..


Faith 5 years ago

Oh and my CAPITALIZED words are not ANGRY. I do this to EMPHASIZE.


james_23 5 years ago

@faith:

we couldnt change you only god can ,you dwell in your own personal understanding and interpretation rather than solely allowing gods words to flow into your heart...if that is what your interpretation is then let be it...the god of the bible is bigger than your interpretation.if you think you are way bigger than him than remain with own knowledge wisdom and personal faith..

keep your catholic faith and we will remain with ours as god is the truly author of our faith and not your own personal interpretations or what the priest had taught you...no one betrayed you...ill repeat it again..god said dont equally yoked with unbelievers...in that sense it only means that if you have different faith then better not go for it as is against the will of god..we are not the one who said it we never fabricated words here,why not read the bible before you argue with us....why not read the verses from the bible as the basis of your arguments then...we are not fighting with you..we just dont want you to feel bitter and betrayed because god is bigger than you...if i were your bf..as a true christian i would also chose god over you..because following is GOD is the true meaning of obedience..god bless you


Faith 5 years ago

@james_23: I read your story. Of course I'm not going to defend other Catholics (Haha I've had friends who've done worse). I see how you somehow went to being Born Again because of how you felt.

I think that maybe (I'm not saying that it really is true, only possible) that you may have been with really good friends, and not exactly because of their religion.

Honestly, I'm not sure about the feeling of doing vices since I've never really had alcohol or smoked a cigarette for all of my 27 years of existence. You may think this is weird, but this is because I lived in Saudi for 5 years (Last elementary year, and High School, most of my pubescent years ^_^)

Alcohol is banned in Saudi. I abhor Smoking because I have relatives with Respiratory ailments. When I left Saudi, I still haven't drunk alcohol (maybe it's because of being used to not drinking, or knowing the effects >I'm a Med Student< and being informed by other friends of the bitter taste).

Most of my best friends are Muslims and I feel so at home with them. We all share a love of God, though we don't say "Allah", or "Jesus Christ" to each other, we share our beliefs and feel God's love.

So to me it's more of a case to case basis.

Well what I truly want to say, is that I'm happy for you. You found where you truly feel God's embrace and found happiness.

More Peace and Love to you~!


james_23 5 years ago

we never pracitce beliefs here..we obey every words that god says..if youre a true christian then why would you aks quesitons like that if you truly read your bible?

true christians believe that only true born again goes to heaven because it was written in the scriptures...

i give you so many scriptures already..but if you question gods words then theres nothing we can do anymre..

qoute:I do wonder, do you mean to say, all the people in the world, especially those in non-Christian countries, are born to be doomed? Especially if they have a strong belief in their own Faith and refuse to turn to a different one?

as if you say that whatever faith you have you can still go to heaven if in fact god said

John 14:6 (New International Version)

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

New International Version (NIV)

and god said: his man (Nicodemus) came to Jesus by night and said to him, "Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him." Jesus answered him (Nicodemus), "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." "- John 3:2-3

every anweres we have to your questions are taken directly from gods words..now if you have your own understanding of the bible and you different interpretation of god clearly written in his holy scriptures then let god judge us all.

after all,god is bigger than us..his words is double edged sword...we always qoute his words because we believe he is the only one that deserves all the glory and honor..we cant change your faith but im grateful we were able to share gods words with you..after all,our aim here is to spread and follow the gospel and not to listen to any genius interpretations of whoever that devaites from the true words of god


Faith 5 years ago

@james_23:I quote "the god of the bible is bigger than your interpretation.if you think you are way bigger than him than remain with own knowledge wisdom and personal faith.."

I'm not sure if I took this the wrong way, but the way you said this was a bit offending. It's just the same that you are saying MY BELIEF IS WEAKER THAN YOURS.

And I said to read everything I wrote. I never said anything about being BIGGER THAN HIM. I thought I made it clear to HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING, NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR.

"god said dont equally yoked with unbelievers...in that sense it only means that if you have different faith then better not go for it as is against the will of god..we are not the one who said it we never fabricated words here,why not read the bible before you argue with us....why not read the verses from the bible as the basis of your arguments then..."

I said I READ the Bible. Even with the danger of bringing it in Saudi Arabia, I brought it with me and read. It's been my life.

THERE ARE NO CHURCHES IN SAUDI. I had no contact with the church for 5 years of my life. So the Bible was my only sanctuary.

I probably said it wrong, that I implied you fabricated lines from the Bible. I apologize. My interpretation to "dont equally yoke with unbelievers" is different from how you understood it, obviously.

"Yoke" is a term that means to FORCIBLY PUT TOGETHER. Then this means I may be with a nonbeliever, as long as I don't force them into anything. I may share with them my Faith, but not FORCE into them my beliefs, and FORCE to be together with them.

"we just dont want you to feel bitter and betrayed because god is bigger than you...if i were your bf..as a true christian i would also chose god over you..because following is GOD is the true meaning of obedience..god bless you"

God bless you too. I am not bitter. I have long since forgiven him and accepted that we can't be together. I know that GOD IS BIGGER THAN ME, again, don't MAKE THINGS UP ABOUT ME.

Though I felt offended at some statements, I understand that you want to prove your point.

The reason I am posting these is not because I want you to go back to Catholicism or change your Faith. I respect your belief. I just wish to understand Born Again better (I know I come of badly because of the things I say or ask, but I really want to know), but that doesn't mean that I will turn to BA.


james_23 5 years ago

@faith4:

i have the biggest faith to god,never did i doubted his life changing manifestation on me thru his holy spirit..i never doubted gods existnece and gods power as i truly love and put all my faith on him..as if you dont believe god can change those worst people in the world?god said as long as you are true to accept that your a sinner and accept him as lord and savior he can change you..if he was able to create heaven and earth..how more cant he touch you tiny heart!god is truly mighty to save!

if you think i was just in the right group..then its like youre telling me right now im in the wrong group because im struggling right now being with these catholic people who kept on inviting me to drink to smoke to go to to bars and commit wickedness,i felt guilty evertime i compromise my faith to god,he speaks in my heart to flee the wickedness..im attending christian church right now and im praying hard i would be able to leave this place and be with true christians because i dont wanna compromise anymore..im not comfortable hurting our almighty god anymore..who am i to hurt him!he died for me he gave me life he showed me the right path..now that im a true christian..i only want to please god and no one else.this people will reject and redicule me if they knew i dont wanna go with them anymore so to avoid hurting thier feelings id rahter leave..though i felt accountable for not opening their eyes into reality..but god has his own perfect time


james_23 5 years ago

but that equally yoke is also applicable to marriage..remember marriage is second most important decision that we made..first ofcourse is accepting christ as our personal lord and savior..

i just took it from a christian site..its not my intention to hurt someone as god doesnt want me to do that...but its so clear you have all your reasons to every verses that we're posting thats why i said that..what im trying to imply there is that,never will i lean on my own understanding..i have total surrender to god which is the author of our faith..never will i push my own interpretation of the holy scripture as i will only hurt our savior.if you read the bible again god said never lean on your own understanding rather put all your trust to god..thats what we are....we just follow god and only god..and no one else..because god died for you to bring salvation so why not offer everything to him as he left his glory to be crucified and bring salvation and hope to mankind.


Faith 5 years ago

@james_23: I quote "if you think i was just in the right group..then its like youre telling me right now im in the wrong group because im struggling right now being with these catholic people who kept on inviting me to drink to smoke to go to to bars and commit wickedness,i felt guilty evertime i compromise my faith to god,he speaks in my heart to flee the wickedness."

I feel somewhat sad that you took my words differently for what I meant. I said "I think that maybe (I'm not saying that it really is true, only possible) that you may have been with really good friends, and not exactly because of their religion."

If you took this in carefully, I meant that religion had nothing to do with it. I meant that being nice and enjoying life without vices may be a personal thing, and NOT NECESSARILY due to one's religion.

"6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

I know this and believe this, but I just can't ignore my friends who are not Christians at all (They're not Catholic, etc.). I am a religious person, but at the same time I am a compassionate human who thinks of those with different beliefs from mine.

I don't think it is right for me to persuade them to Christianity when they are happy with their Faith.

"New International Version (NIV)

and god said: his man (Nicodemus) came to Jesus by night and said to him, "Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him." Jesus answered him (Nicodemus), "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." "- John 3:2-3"

I don't mean to question you (I know I'll probably get bashed for this), but doesn't being "born again" different from being "Born Again".

This is probably the worst thing I can ask/say here, but from what I have read for so long, being "born again" is being baptized into a Christian (as in Christianity, not Born Again).

But I mean, who am I to say again. People have revised/translated/interpreted the Bible too many times (Language may also be a barrier) to say that what ME and YOU are saying may be considered as the true Word of God.

Unless of course you have the original copy of the Bible in the ancient language and interpreted the words yourself, then you can be truly sure.

I'm not saying that we should start questioning the Bible, since even in different languages, interpretation may be different but NOT TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

I try to make you understand what I'm saying, but I'm feeling antagonized with every question or statement I give.

Maybe it's the wording, but I try to say things in the most peaceful way that I can in how I (TAKE NOTE: "I") see and understand things.


james_23 5 years ago

never will i go back to catholicism again!we all here finally seen the light to why go back to dark if god himself gives you light..

never will i worship the saint or marry again as it provoke god to anger..now again..catholics have thier own genuis interpretation of this..we have to follow god literally god said never to worship any gods aside from me as they are only stones and couldnt speak and couldnt speak..god said i am the way the truth and life no one comes to the father except thru me..that is crystal clear

never will i confess to priest again as jesus is the only mediator between god man and god..

never will i called the pope holy father as i have only one spiritual father and that is god..

never will i accept good works as my way to salvation as god said"

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9

now if you truly follow god you have to obey his commands....

god is the source of the light and bible is the true word of god...not even the priest nor the pastors nor religions can give you light aside from the bible...to god be the glory forever and ever

never will i


Faith 5 years ago

@james_23: "never will i lean on my own understanding..i have total surrender to god which is the author of our faith..never will i push my own interpretation of the holy scripture as i will only hurt our savior.if you read the bible again god said never lean on your own understanding rather put all your trust to god..thats what we are....we just follow god and only god..and no one else..because god died for you to bring salvation so why not offer everything to him as he left his glory to be crucified and bring salvation and hope to mankind."

I apologize again for this question...

If you surrender to God Who is the Author of Faith, I ask why is Born Again something fairly NEW compared to Catholic Christianity?

To me it seems as if SOMEONE/A PERSON, interpreted something different from the Bible and turned it into Born Again.

What I'm saying is The Bible is still The Bible for so long, and so is Catholicism.

But where does Born Again lie?

The Bible never changed. So it's the interpretation of a HUMAN who changed (forming it into Born Again Christianty) and shared with others his own understanding of the Bible....

...isn't it?

I'M SORRY for my questions if they seem RUDE OR OFFENDING. Again, I am only trying to understand Born Again.


Faith 5 years ago

@james_23: "god is the source of the light and bible is the true word of god...not even the priest nor the pastors nor religions can give you light aside from the bible...to god be the glory forever and ever"

As I said before, I haven't gone to the Church for 5 years when I studied in Saudi Arabia, so the Bible was the only thing I could rely on at that time.

Meaning, I have not really relied on priests fully...only to God do I give my life to.

And what is the purpose of your statements before this quote?

I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT I DON'T INTEND TO TURN YOU BACK TO CATHOLICISM.

I WANT TO UNDERSTAND YOUR BELIEF NOT FORCE YOU INTO MINE.

"but that equally yoke is also applicable to marriage..remember marriage is second most important decision that we made..first ofcourse is accepting christ as our personal lord and savior.."

Umm...your statement is totally unrelated to what I said. My key word was FORCIBLY, not togetherness. So it means, I WILL NOT FORCE SOMEONE OF DIFFERENT FAITH TO BE WITH ME...I'll be with them only if we both love and understand each other...this involves MARRIAGE.


james_23 5 years ago

@faith:

i qoute this from a christian site:this is what truly born again means..in short god makes you knew,a new creation thru the power of the holy spirit

John 3:3 KJV) "Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

To be born again means that a new creature was begotten by spiritual methods. (John 3:6 KJV) "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."

When one is born again, he becomes a child of God. (Rom 8:10 KJV) "And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness."

When one is born again, he begins to live a new life-eternal life. At once our sins are forgiven; our guilt is gone. We are at peace with God; we have new goals and attitudes. And at death we enter a still higher life of joy. Eternal Life is true living-forever! (2 Cor 5:17 KJV) "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."

You can learn more about being born again from God's book, the Bible. (1 Pet 1:23 KJV) "Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."

This may be hard for you to understand. It was hard also for Nicodemus when Jesus told him. Read the story in the third chapter of the Gospel of John. Jesus wanted Nicodemus (and He wants you) to be born again to everlasting life. And so He said: (John 3:16 KJV) "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."


Faith 5 years ago

@james_23: "To be born again means that a new creature was begotten by spiritual methods. (John 3:6 KJV) "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."

When one is born again, he becomes a child of God. (Rom 8:10 KJV) "And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness."

When one is born again, he begins to live a new life-eternal life. At once our sins are forgiven; our guilt is gone. We are at peace with God; we have new goals and attitudes. And at death we enter a still higher life of joy. Eternal Life is true living-forever! (2 Cor 5:17 KJV) "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."

You can learn more about being born again from God's book, the Bible. (1 Pet 1:23 KJV) "Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."

I'm sorry for being persistent, but this is the definite definition of BAPTISM in Catholicism.

When you are baptized whether after birth or in the middle of your life, you are REBORN and therefore living a new life, an eternal life given by God.

I know I keep questioning...but I want to understand. And I'm sorry but I will stick to the Bible, not the site. Like scientific information, the internet is NOT ALWAYS reliable, so I'm a little skeptic about the site.

Maybe you have not experienced life as a Catholic that deeply since you don't SEEM have a full understanding of our Faith. (I'm just thinking it could be possible)

I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD GO BACK. I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND MY POINT OF VIEW.


james_23 5 years ago

@faith:

i dont mean to offend you either so forgive me if you think i just did...finally,i would like to say that i only trust god and his words..he is my strength he is my refure he is my life and im totallt nothing withuot him..i love him so much with all of my heart that im willing to give up everytthing for him..he had given me so many chance though i disobeyed him many times but he remains faithful..i only believe in god and his holy scriptures..i might not be able to read his words too often but i long for him and i knew deep in my heart that someday soon i will completely surrender everything to him and i will conquer the world for i dont beloing in this world..i belong to him..a loving and mighty savior the alpha and omega..he stored so many amazing things for those who continuesly love him and as he promised;

No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him” (I Corinthians 2:9).

that is really exciting...after this mortal life we will become immortal..i wanna be with the lord forever and ever


james_23 5 years ago

@faith:i wish to understand your point of view but GOD's point of view is so priceless that whatever knowledge we have..i never pushed my own point of view when it comes to godly matters,i totally surrender everything to christ..im really sorry but i will only follow god..all true christians follow gods words only...the bible is out daily bread it is the source of our light...no mans point of view is higher than gods understanding..but still i understand you but in in spiritual way thank you may god bless you and make you safe..just pray to him and he is loyal to his words that he will reveal himself for those who sincerely seek him..


james_23 5 years ago

i mean i will understand your point of you but not in a spiritual way because as what i said...i dont buy pastor or priest opinions i only treasure gods words..but as long as they speak what the bible says then they are a true preacher of god.im a bible based christian..everything that i want to follow comes from holly scripture alone..because for me the word of god is "my all"


Faith 5 years ago

@james_23: Though you have not answered all of my questions above...

...I guess we can somehow end this talk on the note that we both believe in the Lord and love Him with all our heart.

My final note would be to ask all Born Again to continue loving God, but to NEVER say that they are closer and loved more by God than the other Christianity sects. God loves mankind equally and boasting of His love while stepping on others is the most hurtful thing one can do.


james_23 5 years ago

@faith:we felt closer to god because we chose to stay with him every breath that we take and every step that we make..we are not the type of christians who know god by name alone..we seek him,we continuesly read his words and we follow everything that he says..for if gods is with then who can be against.

god said:

21 Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord," shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

22 Many will say to Me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?"

23 And then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.

so does it mean that all of us will enhirit his kingdom despite that crystal clear word of god?

we are a loving people,we shared the gospel because that is the true word of god and god said not to be innocent with his words rather to share this good news..sometimes it does hurt because it hits traditions and personal beiefe but god answeres that..."know the truth and the truth will set you free"..weve done our parts now its up to you,,at the end of the day we will all face gods and we can never make any excuses,like we can tell him this is what my knowledge is or this what my leader taught me..god will never tolerate excuses anyways,because his words come to flesh as guidance and give light to those who are in the dark..have a blessed day faith


Faith 5 years ago

This is the last (probably):

If Born Again are not allowed to marry non-believers, shouldn't they be allowed to marry other Christianity sects, since technically they are believers of the Lord Jesus Christ?

And if my bf chose God, why did he need to break up with me? If I married him, that wouldn't mean that I would have him change his Faith. And as I said, isn't our God one and the same (As in Lord Jesus)? So doesn't this mean that he did not turn away from God if he married me?

Is it true that you would be out of Born Again if you marry someone of different Faith? Why is Catholicism considered different when we both believe in Jesus Christ?

If you answer any of my questions, even those above this post, Thank You.

Sorry...I just needed to really ask this, because I find these things very contradictory/confusing.

God Bless to you all!


james 5 years ago

i just wanna caught theses verses for our almighty god because these verses helped me obey and submit to god rather than keep on questioning him

Proverbs 3:5-6 (New International Version)

this is for eveyone

5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart

and lean not on your own understanding;

6 in all your ways submit to him,

and he will make your paths straight.[a]

James 4:7-8

"Therefore SUBMIT TO GOD. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded"

We need to draw near to God, so that He draw near to us. We cannot serve Him from distance, without knowing Him. We can serve only the one we obey and to whom we subject ourselves. As it says in Philippians 2:5-11:


Faith 5 years ago

@james_23: "at the end of the day we will all face gods and we can never make any excuses,like we can tell him this is what my knowledge is or this what my leader taught me..god will never tolerate excuses anyways,because his words come to flesh as guidance and give light to those who are in the dark..have a blessed day faith"

So you are admitting that you may also be as wrong as all other Christianity sects are to certain things read from the Bible then?

As you said there would be no excuses that you believed this and that because that is how you understood the Bible and that we may end up all wrong at some point or verse.

Because for Born Again to start, SOMEONE has to start it...others would soon follow. Someone would start a THOUGHT or INTERPRETATION of the Bible and spread it.

This may be seen as similar to a priest reading the Bible and explaining, and so is a pastor doing the same, or an individual reading the Bible, but explaining/interpreting things differently...right?

All I'm saying is read the Bible again and again. Have an open mind. Don't always say that since you understood it the first time, it's the same as when you read it the second time.

So do not say that people do not read the Bible as much or understand it like you do because you may be in wrong as well.

Be open to possibilities. Read again if you're confused and enlighten yourself as you repeat God's Word.

The Bible, if you read the original, is full of inspiring, yet vague descriptions of life and the teachings of love. NO HUMAN can define the meanings EXACTLY.

Therefore, reading it over and over is your only option left. You may not exactly get it, but you can come close to doing so.

The only thing that would not change as you read the Holy Bible is that you would always LOVE and BELIEVE in the GOD ALMIGHTY.


Faith 5 years ago

@james_23: "i just wanna caught theses verses for our almighty god because these verses helped me obey and submit to god rather than keep on questioning him"

I am not questioning the Lord.

I am questioning you.

You are avoiding to answer my question, so I guess it is something you cannot really answer, and therefore, going back to using God's name. (I apologize, this is how I see your statement to be)

I love God, I submit to Him and believe in Him.

I do not question Him, I question you for the verses you have given me does not say that a NONBELIEVER = CATHOLICS/OTHER CHRISTIANITY SECTS, because WE BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST AS MUCH AS YOU.


james 5 years ago

@faith:im not expert on this thing but remember that so called missionay dating?that christians get involved in a relationship with unbelievers hoping that they might be able to inject their own faith?and then it was mininterpreted because the main reason why they really court someone is because hi is attracted to her and not really for the purpose of drawing her near to god..so that is were the struggle started...but its you left your bf right?because you dont want to share the same faith with him right?so in that case if your decision not his?remember this..you cant ask him to love you more than god..thats why when you broke up with him hey didnt resist rahter follow the will of god..there are so many christians who marry a catholic one...but it wont guarantee success in marriage...its much better if you share the same faith..however maybe its gods purpose as your bf lie to god about his real intention for you..he loves you and thats all i can guarantee you..christian fears god and for me its an advantage for a women to marry a god fearing man rather than a man who follows his own law and practice his manhood by his own beliefs.


Faith 5 years ago

@james_23: Maybe I fail to see this, but Born Again seem to be so confident of their Faith, so I thought all of them understood all there is to their Faith.

I did not leave, my bf. He left me. I only rejected his desire to make me Born Again. He was the one who broke our relationship.

Oh dear. I can't believe I have to repeat this again. How can you say that he followed the Will of God? Isn't our Jesus Christ one and the same? How can leaving me mean he is following God?

I'm not Atheist so how can you say that?

AGAIN I COPY THIS FROM WHAT I SAID EARLIER:

And if my bf chose God, why did he need to break up with me? If I married him, that wouldn't mean that I would have him change his Faith. And as I said, isn't our God one and the same (As in Lord Jesus)? So doesn't this mean that he did not turn away from God if he married me?


james 5 years ago

whats your question again that i didnt answere?sorry still have to go to work

but to answere you about what i said at the end of the day...

we will all die and face judgement from from..so how could it be that god would contradict his own teaching?i just dont wanna sound as if im judging but god clearly said we have to follow and accept christ to obtain salvation...i have a question for you?dont you 100% believe that the bible is a true word of god?because based on your statement..its as if you think that there are other books that preach the gospel much better than the bible..i believe 100% in the bible(and as if there are other faith aside from christ that leads to salvation)..i have a pure heart for god so i never doudted him..i completely trust him..those who believe in god must believe in his words without questioning it whatsoever.and i ever you have questions,you have to seek his guidance because he is the way the truth and the no one else...


Faith 5 years ago

@james_23: It seems that you don't understand my statements. I believe 100% in the Bible as the true word. What I don't think is 100% correct is how we individually interpret it when we read it.

Not sure if you understood that. It feels as if I have to keep repeating and repeating what I say and your answers always lead to saying "I'm disobeying God."

I'm NOT questioning God.

I'm questioning YOU and YOUR INTERPRETATION of the Bible.

I feel that somehow no matter what I ask, I'm sorry to say that you seem to ignore some statements I make, or interpret them differently from what I'm trying to say.

This could actually be considered on how different a person's view of a sentence may be from another person.

This means that your interpretation of the Bible have obviously been different from mine.

I don't think I can say anything more.

I would reply again if you ever REALLY READ my earlier comments and REPLY APPROPRIATELY to my questions.

I am patient but I can't devote all my time into this.

If you can't really answer my questions about Born Again...then all I can say is may the Lord bless your soul.


confused? not anymore :) 5 years ago

Guys I guess you're talking about how to interpret the Bible correctly. Once you pray and ask God for wisdom before reading the Bible, that's the time that you can understand the message clearly.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Ok, a lot of reading, here is my understanding and yes thanks confused, not anymore, I always ask for Godly wisdom as in "James" not just before reading the bible which is vital, but also every day in all I do before I speak, we definitely need Godly wisdom and He will give it to us. Faith, I am the oldest here, so I do have some 'older' wisdom, you have been deeply hurt by ur bf and I don't blame you being female myself, but let me tell you, if it wasn't for me becoming born again and stayed a catholic, my marriage would be over long time ago. As I became obedient to God and not my own ideas, He has blessed my marriage and saved it, I understood my own sins and now like James said, I could never hurt God again after what Jesus went through for me. Another thing that's happened, I always used to be sick somehow, but the older I'm getting the healthier I am, because I'm obedient to His Word. I'm not perfect I'm human but this is were born again changes everything. I know I've said this before, but the moment you ask Jesus in your heart and to become the Lord of your life, His spirit connects with your spirit and you belong to Him, His child, you have His inheritance, His peace, His Love, on and on.......He makes our heart of stone in a heart of flesh, you get to know His heart for people. Yes he loves all people no matter what religion, but people don't see Him as He is....they worship other God, Allah is not the same God, budda is not either, neither is Hindu gods, there is only ONE CREATOR, the one we turned away from the garden of Eden, we believed a lie and it's still happening today. All God wants is for ALL of us to go back to our First Love and That's Him no one else created us. The world is being shaken now because of sin and the world is groaning, His judgemnent is coming but this is the time of Grace and He wants ALL to come to Him before His final judgement comes.

You know when your born again when you are not from the world, meaning that you focus more on His Kingdom to come and to bring as many people there for eternity cause He wants no one to be lost, not one sheep (He's the Shepherd). We are His Hands and Feet and Mouth, when He left up in the cloud (Jesus) He told the desciples to go and make desciples baptising them in the name of Jesus, that is our commission as a true christian, He didn't say accept all religions, there is no religion in the bible just christians, 'anointed ones' with His anointing.

Not offending anyone, I was a catholic for a long long time most of my friends and family are still catholic but do not know God because they are not told to know Him personally as a friend. I am a friend of God, and He loves me and He's also my Father who calls me home this is not my home, (that's 2 wonderful songs I've quoted there, I love my christian songs). I'm not saying all catholics don't know God, I'm sure there are many especially the 'charasmatic catholics' I once was involved with them, they also pray in other tongues, yes catholics even a priest I knew sang in the different tongues. I think if the church would get people to say the sinners pray, which means giving your life to Jesus, I believe there would be a lot of more people changed and in love with God and would touch a lot of more people and wow what unity there would be with christians.

Faith I also know a lot of muslim people also hindus buddist and many atheists, cause of where I work, I love each and every one of them because God's put His love in my heart HE IS LOVE PRAISE HIM FOREVER. HE WANTS ALL HIS PEOPLE TO HEAR HIS WORDS.......

PS... I think you should understand ur bf, I'm sure he loves you and things could work out with God's help. It's never too late and GOd wants you to be happy and wants to bless you as you are His child if you believe in the ONE AND TRUE GOD!! Hope all this doesnt offend you I'm rushing to go out and not sure if it all sound ok!


Manola Flora 5 years ago

I knew I was rushing, I meant to say that God doesn't force Himself on us He's given us a free will otherwise we'd be robots, He's created us unique in His image and He wants us to give Him permission to come and live in us. We were once far away from the Father and by asking Jesus in our hearts (He's there knocking and doesn't push to come in) He just waits for us to say YES and give that permission to become His forever. We are born of Adam and belong to this earth until you are born of the Spirit of the Son of God. Hope this makes sense to you Faith and don't mean to offend anyone. Sharing my own experience and seeing and living the difference.

My daughter has seen the difference and I cannot force her into becoming born again, I do encourage her to come to the church cafe' where I work and she loves it there, has come to a few services and does like it but will not make a committment only God can change her. I trust Him and leave it up to Him while I pray for her and her family. Faith I'm sorry about your bf mother, she shouldn't be blaming you, but obviously she is not happy with her son and is worried, she should just give if to God to sort out.


james 5 years ago

@faith4:

i dont want to have arguments with anyone here..i just want you to realize that i never put any interpretations from the word of god..i just it literally obey it as it is,because obedience leads to understanding..

forgive your bf if you think he betrayed you,but let him feel the joy that god had given him,he serves god wholeheartedly otherwise he compromised it and followed and his own worldly desires.

you said:I am looking at this both in the religious and scientific/logical point of view because obviously you are implying again that BA is a superior Faith...that all others will not be saved because they are not Christians.

now can i ask you 1 question about this?do you truly believe that jesus is christ is the only way for salvation?i could answere this yes wholeheartedly because it was written in the scriptures that no other names written in the bible aside from jesus that could us!now if you truly follow the word of god why you seem so skeptical about it.i wont but scientific point of view as god is bigger than any science here..science is mainly human knowledge..and gods knowledge is infinitely bigger than it,i only believe in god and not in everything else because gods wisdom is enough to answere all my questions about life and he is my truth and my light.

i just wanna emphasize with you again that everything that im saying is based purely in the word of god..i never fabricated anything as my respect and love to god is the foundation of my faith..i accpet the fact that i cant fathom gods kindness and love to me.

you said:I did not leave, my bf. He left me. I only rejected his desire to make me Born Again. He was the one who broke our relationship.

let me answere this..since we follow god and we pleases him sometimes we need to sacrifice our own personal happiness that might not be pleasing to gods sight...since you refuse to join his faith..it is crystal clear that you are not compatible to gods sight as how can you be fruitful if your dont share the same faith..you dont wanna be born again as if your bf in injecting another man made religion to you even if how many times i told you that being born again is not a religion but a personal relationship with jesus..and tell me now?how did god interpreted born again..isnt it that he said born in spirit..not in flesh..that means he renew you by his might and not by your own effort.

you said:Oh dear. I can't believe I have to repeat this again. How can you say that he followed the Will of God? Isn't our Jesus Christ one and the same? How can leaving me mean he is following God?

answere:he followed god in a way that you dont understand..he abide gods command by not being with someone who dont share the same beliefs with him..if you open your heart faith..you would have understand that your bf is not only inlove with with you but his love for god is way bigger than anyone else.sometimes people dont understand why some people are so devoted to god...he might betrayed you in your own human explanation but it doesnt matter anymore..what matters most is he follows gods desire for him..you have to accept it that no matter how great your interpretation is..gods knowedge is infinitely higher than yours..equally yoke ( yoke interpretation in dictionary:To join securely as if with a yoke; bind: partners who were yoked together for life.)means for me not to have fellowship with people who have different faith than you have,and it most importantly apply to marriage..as what the dictionary defined it as partners who were yolk together for life.

you said internet is not precise basis...it might be but the verses from my internet sources are the same verses from the bible and i made sure that it was written by true christians and not by people who try to interpret the bible as if they are higher than god.

theres no point of argument anymore faith..we respect whatever faith you have and whatever intrepretations you have..and if you question whatever verses i justify to your questions then maybe question god because i just took it purely from his words..

i assure you that i never fabricated words nor interpreted it in my own knowledge as i admit my mind is microscopically tiny than gods infinite wisdom.

all your questions are actually written in the bible..gods words is more than enough to sustain our longings and christ is ready to reveal himself to those who trusted him with all their hearts and souls..and thats what we do..we completely surrender to god and never questioned his words..

its easy to say that we are a christian yet we dont fully surrender our lives to god and obey him with all our hearts..its easy to say that we love god with all our hearts yet we never walk the talk..its so easy to declare that we love god yet we only remember him during bad times..true christians walk with the lord every minute of their lives..true christians seek gods words and never doubted it..true christians purely believe that jesus christ is the way the truth and the life..and true chritians walk the talk for the spirit of god dwells in their hearts and souls..god bless everyone..and true christians rely on gods wisdom and not lean on their own understanding as this is what god said:

“For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways,” declares the LORD. 9 “For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts” (Isaiah 55:8-9; see also Job 28:12-28; Jeremiah 51:15-17).


james 5 years ago

you cant really fathom gods kindness unless you completely surrender to him and no doubt obey him with all your hearts and souls..god is the author or our faith,we are nothing without him..we must live for him alone..true christians walk the talk and true christian take up his cross with him and doesnt conform with the pattern of this world...again...obedience leads to understanding..and if you obey god wholeheartedly..thru the guidance of the holy spirit,you will see for yourself how awesome and mighty our god is..as the song says"here i am to worship"meaning we live not for ourselves but for god alone..god sees our heart and we can never fool him..god knows who completely trust him and follows him..you can never fool god and you can never set aside him.accepting god is a free will yet every choice make has its own consequences.so love god with all your hearts and souls because he died for you to redeem you..life really sucks without god..you will never have peace of mind and you will never experience joy,

Philippians 1:21 “For me to live is Christ and to die is gain.”

.and as god said again and again..

"No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him"--this is something that true chritians are waiting..a reward from god for those who truly love follow him.

John 3:16

"For God so loved the world, he gave his only begotten Son,

that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

imagine how god loves you my friends..we died for you though you dont deserve it.so in return,trust fully to the lord for he is the only way for eternal life..god bless you all


james 5 years ago

i mean he died for you..sorry guys so many typos, i just came back from work and really tired..but i will never get tired defending god because he never get tired loving me...id rahter loss whatever possession i might have than give up jesus..because god said..

Matthew 16:26 "For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?"

people will hate you because of you strong people to god..it was already written in the scripture..yet if god is with us then who can be against us..


james_23 5 years ago

i mean:

people will hate you because of you strong faith to god..as it was already written in the scriptur that if god is with us then who can be against us..its normal for christians to be persecuted but remember jesus said that if they persecute you,they persecute him first...i admit i sometimes dont walk the talk but atleast my heart was fully opened and always ready to ask forgiveness ..thats why i need your prayers as well..that may god strengthen me more and be able to find new christian friends who could help me grow more with god..god bless everyone


james_23 5 years ago

very well said manola..you are no doubt a true christian and a follower of christ..

yes..god loves us all,but the only thing that seperate us from god is our sins..thats the main reason jesus temporary left his throne to be crucified and punished for each and everyones sins..everytime i hear the song.."who am "i by crasting crown i could hardly hold my tears because i really couldnt fathom his love for us...imagine he is our god yet he died for us?!wow that is the biggest sacrifice ever known in the whole humanity..

christian music aside from gods words really made me closer to god..everytime i worship him i really couldnt believe im in tears despite holding it back i really couldnt resist it because he really touches my heart..and because i felt so guilty for being so unloyal to him despite his everlasting love for me..god is the god of many chances..no matter how many times we turn our back on him he still knocks in our heart hoping we will accept him..how awesome god is for despite being god humbled himself down to his servants!!i really cant fathom his kindness and his amazing grace..i love you lord with all my heart and soul,you are the best thing that happened to my life..and im so grateful i was given the chance to know you personally..your my best friend youre my strentgh,your my refuge..youre my everything..


james_23 5 years ago

at faith:sorry i wanst able to read this part as i was really in a hurry for my work:

ill give my answere for this for the last time and then i leave it up to god..just seek him and you will find him

you said:james_23:

Maybe I fail to see this, but Born Again seem to be so confident of their Faith, so I thought all of them understood all there is to their Faith.

answere:there no doubt that we believe with our faith..because if we dont truly believe with our faith that are truly bible based then we can never called ourselves a true beleiver of christ,because what is the purpose of following god if you dont trust his words!and yes we are really confident with our faith!as clear as crystal!you wanna know why?because it was all purely came from gods words..we are confident with gods words therefore there is no doubt we are confident with our faith as god is the author of our faith...if you doubted and not confident with the bible then you you truly not believe in god almigthy for his words came to flesh thru the bible.

you said:

you said:

If I married him, that wouldn't mean that I would have him change his Faith.

answere:but it is gods desire that couples shares the same faith...you really dont see the conflict yet because you are not married yet but if your married already you will realize it then..you cant accept your bf to give up his faith because it is gods will for him to know the truth..and he might not be able to see you giving up your faith because you are guided by your own prniciples and perceptions..

it is your desire not to change his faith but as true christian it is always our desire to introduce god personally to everyone..to accept god as personal lord and savior and to have that personal relationship with becaus, we want to share the goodness and the good news that god wants us to share..you can never stop any born again from this as it is gods desire for us to share the gospel and message of salvation..so tell me now..how do you think he would feel if he was able to draw others to christ yet failed to do it to his wife(again im sure you have answeres to this..faith..this not about religion..we say this because we experience and we feel god,it is hard to understand.have to experience it for you to be able to understand it,but without obedience and complete surrender to christ,you will never experience nor understand what we are saying)..i had a hard time understanding this before until the time came i personally experienced it)

you said:And as I said, isn't our God one and the same (As in Lord Jesus)?

answere:yep we have the same god theres no doubt on that,but you have different way of worshipping him...your bf rely mainly on the bible,you rely on your catholic faith..and now tell me?the bible was word of god ,catholic was a religion created by men.religions are just man made..bible is gods words.. your bf is guided by the holy spirit he will never give up the truth forever..so you think there is no possibility of conflict in the long run?

you said:

So doesn't this mean that he did not turn away from God if he married me?

let me tell you faith..married is a long and lasting relationship..god marriage to be pure and holy..if your have different faith it will manifest in the long run and thats the reality you can never hide..

before you read the bible pray hard to god that..its a matter of obedience and complete trust faith...you can reach god thru his words...i dont wantto talk about this anymore..i'd done my part,now its up to you to find your own justifications to everything...god gave us free will...he only knocks on our heart but never forces himself to be accepted...he wants us to be sincere with our prayers and longings for him..god sees our hearts we can never fool him..i dont wanna talk about this anymore..just read the bible and god will answere all your questions..just put your faith with him alone and your will see some how real god is...it is not accident that you visited this site..it was a great purpose..god bless you faith:-)


james_23 5 years ago

i mean it was with a great purpose,really couldnt type well and really in a hurry always hehe..im so tired from my work and its already early in the morning hehe...god bless everyone


Faith 5 years ago

I'm sort of growing tired of repeating this over and over, but this will probably (Haha PROBABLY) my last note. PLEASE READ EVERYTHING. ALL OF YOU SEEM TO ALWAYS MISS OR OMIT A POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE

P.S. Please don't be offended by my CAPITALIZED STATEMENTS...I do this to EMPHASIZE. I wrote this before but I'm not really confident that YOU READ THAT. So just to make sure.

Here we go:

From what all of you are implying. You keep saying we worship God and you befriend Him. I have said this OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Honestly, this is something I am ALREADY DOING. You can't really say that I don't have the same intimate relationship with God as you.

From the statements each of you made of how "different" we relate with God...you are JUDGING CATHOLICISM because you obviously DID NOT FEEL FULFILLED when you were one and DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE CATHOLIC FAITH WHOLLY.

I feel fulfilled because I embraced Him not as God but as "Jesus Christ"...Do you understand this? I can't overly explain the emotion or light I am surrounded with.

All I'm saying is YOU KEEP JUDGING CATHOLICISM like CONTEMPT TOWARDS SOMETHING YOU FEEL HAD FAILED YOU.

Let me ask you this...what do you think did you not do as a Catholic Christian that made you feel that way?

By the way. I am married. My husband is a Shintoist (I did not convert to his Faith)...and we are expecting our first child. Throughout my son/daughter's life, me and my husband would be sharing our Faith with him/her.

When he/she reaches the age that he/she can choose for himself/herself, I would let him/her. I would not let religion become a barrier to our loving relationship as a family.

By that time, I will have had shared with him/her everything about my love for God, and so will my husband. It would be up to him/her to decide which Faith he feels strongly for.

I am happy with my life. I KEEP HAVING TO REPEAT THAT I HAD FORGIVEN MY PAST BF. The reason I'm POSTING IS TO UNDERSTAND BORN AGAIN.

By the way, believing in different things, DOES NOT HINDER or COMPLICATE a relationship. YOU ARE THE ONE TRYING TO COMPLICATE IT.

I shared my Faith with him, and he shared his with me. We agreed to not convert because we would only bring our relationship to ruin if we keep pushing each other.

WE SHOULD NOT FORCE SOMEONE with WHAT WE BELIEVE IN.

WE CAN SHARE, BUT NOT FORCE.

That is what I keep trying to say, which you can't seem to understand. I can share my Faith, but I won't force him. If he said he won't leave his Faith then I respect him for that.

I would actually be happy since, this would mean that he is a religious man that has devotion to his Gods (Shintoists have many). Though we don't have the same Faith, we are BOTH STRONG WITH OUR SPIRITUALITY.

I have the desire to share my Faith, but I'm not so conceited as to ignore the feelings and beliefs of others.

YOU SAID THAT SINCE I DON'T PUSH MY FAITH ONTO THE ONE I LOVE MEANS THAT I AM NOT A TRUE CHRISTIAN.

Again. YOU ARE JUDGING ME AND MY FAITH.

Really? The more I try to understand Born Again, the more I feel that maybe I should have just ignored my desire to understand.

It's becoming more and more "Superficial" and "Boastful" to me as we continue our talks. And that it TRULY IS DIFFERENT FROM CATHOLICISM.

If we hurt someone, we are hurting God. If I force someone to do something they do not wish to do, aren't I hurting God by doing just that.

THE LORD WANTS US TO SHARE HIS LOVE, NOT SHOVE OUR FAITH INTO OTHER PEOPLE.

Is this what you learn from becoming Born Again? TO BRING DOWN OTHER FAITHS AND JUDGING THE STRENGTH of THEIR LOVE AND RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, THEN FORCE THEM YOUR BELIEFS?

With the way things are in our conversations, I feel that Born Again is no longer that "personal relationship" with God but rather another CHRISTIANITY SECT.

There are a lot of things it has changed with Christianity, making it more like another sect.

Let me ask you this. ISN'T IT A MAN WHO HAD STARTED BORN AGAIN?

You can't say it was God, because then, how come it started LATER than all other CHRISTIANITY SECTS?

You can't say that you read and follow God's Word as it is. I don't wish to really offend but what else can I say? If you studied English, and came across Reading, wouldn't it mean for you to read something, and interpret what it means to you?

You can't totally say that God tells you His Word UNLESS YOU HAVE READ THE ORIGINAL BOOK. Have you?

You keep repeating that I rely on priests/pastors for my Faith. IF YOU KEEP SAYING THIS, YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY NOT READ MY EARLIER STORIES AND STATEMENTS.

The Bible I have has been passed down for generations in my family, so you could say that it is VERY OLD...and is actually one of the remaining copies of the FIRST TRANSLATED ORIGINAL TEXT.

I don't put Bible Quotes here, because if I were to write what mine states, it would take too long, since you would not be able to understand a part of it, without understanding the WHOLE BOOK.

Since mine was a literal translation of the original, the poetic and metaphoric elements make it hard for me to explain things to you, because cultural aspects may lead you to misinterpret them.

YOU REALLY NEED TO READ THE WHOLE ORIGINAL BOOK TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN.

SO THEREFORE, I'VE SOMEWHAT UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE ORIGINAL BIBLE IS WRONG SINCE IT'S DIFFERENT FROM YOUR 'NEW' INTERPRETATION, which you even use God's name to say that He has told you His teachings.

I believe the same thing. That He had spoken to me when I read the Bible. So then which of us speaks the Truth?

If you protest to my statement, WE WOULD GO IN A CYCLE with you always saying that being BORN AGAIN MAKES YOU UNDERSTAND GOD MORE.

Well, I KNOW I AM VERY MUCH CLOSE TO GOD MUCH MORE THAN YOU ARE JUDGING ME FOR.

Being prideful is not something to be happy about. The pride of your "relationship" with God (OUR ONE GOD), is borderline conceited.

I am proud to say that I have a close personal relationship with God, but I don't say that other sects are loved less because of how they relate to Him.


Faith 5 years ago

As I said AGAIN. I've repeated this probably 5 times now.

I AM NOT QUESTIONING GOD.

I AM QUESTIONING YOU.

You say this as if you are God, and me questioning you is synonymous to questioning God.

I am telling you this because I read the Bible with prayer and solemnity that opens up my world to His light and love.

You can't say I'm questioning the Bible because I have a very old one that has been used for generations. I rely heavily on the Bible since IT IS GOD'S WORD.

Are you sure that your Bible is not one that has gone through constant revisions?

I believe that we will all be saved as long as we give our love to Him. But I put aside my happiness, because I care for those who are not of the same Faith and feels strongly for theirs.

I listen to others and their beliefs. You say I'm skeptic, but in this generation, we cannot simply ignore others.

If I were to saved by God when the time comes...even if I am filled with Love, excitement and warmth that I would be together with Him...

I would ask our Lord to bring along those with different Faith who deserve to be a part of His kingdom.

If He states that it is not possible, I would bargain my soul to save those who I know are with a pure heart but sees God differently.

I'd rather do that than be with God, but feeling remorse for I had selfishly put myself ahead of others.

THIS IS PROBABLY NOT HOW YOU WOULD FEEL IF THE DAY WOULD COME. YOU WOULD PROBABLY ACCEPT ENTRANCE TO HIS KINGDOM WITHOUT LOOKING BACK AT THOSE REMAINING ON EARTH.

Maybe I just have a strong sense of compassion for others. To put them first before me...I don't think you can understand this feeling.

YOU SEEM TO PUT FAITH BEFORE EVERYTHING.

YOU DON'T PUT GOD BEFORE EVERYTHING.

I don't think you understand this and would probably say that God and Faith is the same.

To me They are different.

I see God as my everything (My Father, my Brother, my Bestfriend, my Life).

I have Faith in Him...but as I read in the Bible, I cannot just put my Faith ahead of my compassion for others.

I would put God before my Faith.

I don't know if you understand what I'm saying, but this is how I see God, Faith and the World.

I just wanted to share this.


Faith 5 years ago

Correction: If He states that it is not possible, I would bargain my soul to save those who I know are with a pure heart but sees God differently.

I'd rather do that than be with God feeling guilt and remorse for I had selfishly put myself ahead of others.

I stick to God's Word that we are to see Him in all those people surrounding us (even if they are someone we do not know, we have fought with, or have different POVs with).

For with this, He said that hurting others would be hurting Him.

Again. I just wish to share this.


james 5 years ago

@faith:

i want to stop this anymore..stick with your faith and ill stick 100% with my faith to god..i had written almost everyhing to answere your question but in a biblical manner...just dont question me if i said god changed me in a way that i wasn't changed before when i was a catholic because you dont question me..you actually question GOD!if we born again were change by god its because that is what exactly happened,gods power is bigger that human, what you think is impossible to human is mightily possible to god...now if you stick with your beliefs then let be it..

now you see my point why god said do not equally yoke with unbelievers?

you see what happened incase you married your bf?you will always have constant arguments with him you know why?because even here in internet we constantly battling your faith and what the bible clearly written..so why dont you ask yourself first why true christians are in harmony with each other?because they share they same faith to god,god is the author of faith and faith comes with obedience and having pure faith to god means you put god first thru faith and obedience..because if you have faith to god then you are truly obeying and loving him,make his words your daily bread to stretgthen you soul ..i just obediently submit to god and see for myself the true power of god,his power to change me and those people who without a doubt following his words and loving him every second or every breath that they take...god bless you faith..if you think im wrong then let be it,but im with god and his words and therefore i know im in the right track...i cant change what you and you cant change me as i was changed by god already..no other human could ever replace the wonders and love that god had given me.....it is our duty as a true christian to spread the gospel and defend his words..and its a free will.we dont force anyone we just explain everything biblically.

you said

are you sure that your Bible is not one that has gone through constant revisions?

as long as i know..heaven and earth will pass but his words will still remain,tis NIV and true christians dont modify the word of god to bring glory for themselves,so i believed in my heart and sould that it was purely the word of god,not even a tiny peice of doubt with that.....all i want to tell you is..i love god with all my heart i submit to him and i have tremendous joy and peace of mind after obediently submitting to him..

yes you question me but i answered it biblically..so what kind of answere areeyou expecting for christians then?

you said:

s this what you learn from becoming Born Again? TO BRING DOWN OTHER FAITHS AND JUDGING THE STRENGTH of THEIR LOVE AND RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, THEN FORCE THEM YOUR BELIEFS?

we never bring down someones faith..we are only sharing what is truth based on the holy scriptures,because if you think we put down their faith then ask god why he said all these in his words..we only put his words here as the basis for our answeres..GOD said he is the only way the truth and the life,its him who said that not me..there is no other way or faith aside from faith to christ alone that can bring salvation to mankind(it was the bible that delares that..again not me)..i didnt fabricate that..it was written clearly in the bible..i seek gods words first before i answere quesitons..now tell me or kindly copy paste what you said that i was interpreting the bible based on my own knowledge?but anyway im no longer interested lets put and end to this..

ill repeat this again and again always faith:

christians spread the good news thru the bible.,you cant expect us to just to sit wait for his return we harvest souls which apparently misinterpreted by others..but we dont care how people interpret it as long as we are sincere and we obey gods words to spread the gospel..god believes that his gospel is the only truth and you cant blame us when say that only thru him that we will get saved because that is his words and as true servants we believe wholeheartedly with that because he said he is the only god and no other god must be worshipped aside from him..it is a free will but again and again i want to biblically answere you question about this:

when godd said dont equally yoke..we understand what this mean..

ill give you a vivd explanation of this..im now struggling and crying out to god to help me leave this place as i was sorrounded by worldly people..sometimes i do drink with them or party with them just to please them(but do you think did i please god for beng one with them or with the world?l....let me tell you this..if i dont go with them they will just get mad at me and think i dont love them anymore and that i am jologs boring weird etc..every true christians who expose themselves to worldly people is struggling so hard because most of the time its either they bring that person close to god or their tendency to conform with the pattern of the world..what might right in the eyes of human might be not pleasing to GODs sight..thats the reason why spiritually,you are not compatible because even now we have conflicts here how much more if you have your bf for a lifetime.

we do respect other religions faith..but as followers of christ we fear him in every actions that we take..and we share the gospel because that's his command..i will tell you this again and again..when your bf started to realize that he didnt win you for christ then he tried to avoid conflicts in the end.yes you are christian but we there are too many differcences that might lead to misunderstanding so he choses to follow god rather than follow his own worldly desire again and again its because born again are not staying just in the corner,we became active sharing the word of god which might lead to misinterpretation that we dont respect others faith and that will inevitably happen incase he followed his will..he just realize that GODs wisdom is WAY22222 bigger than his

thats the reason why christians only spread the word of god AND LOVE PEOPLE but dont conform wbut dont need to conform with them because it will become a constant struggle..the conviction of the holy spirit is too strong that tells you to not to face but instead flee the temptation.

ok enough is enough for me its no longer getting healthy..im here to testify the goodness of god and to share the good news...i love god with all my heart..that means i constantly follow him,i worship him,though im not constantly reading his words but i felt his presence. this is between me and christ,no ever human knowledge could ever question or put explanation into it.that is personal experience from god alone and no one has the right to question that because questioning that means questioning gods power to change those people who obediently seek him and his mighty love..

god bless you faith..thank you so much


confused? not anymore :) 5 years ago

I will not answer any of the questions of Faith, Manola or James. I will just point out one important thing that involves Catholicism, and that is the main reason why I turned away from being a Catholic and became Born Again Christian. To start with, being born again is not a religion, it is a way of life. How you live your life in this world without being one of the world, but live with the Holy Spirit within you. It means that you don't go with the worldly way but doing things that pleases God. Our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit so we don't do things that will offend Him.

God does not call the qualified, He qualifies the called. Ancestors and elders get mad because all they really think of is religion, they think that it’s weird for a typical person to talk about bible and they get mad because they think that some other religion influenced those people and took them away from their previous one. But there is more important than religion, it is our personal relationship with Jesus Christ.Religion is not that important to God. Because He is concern about our personal relationship with Jesus Christ and not the religion we are in. If you will read the bible from cover to cover, no religion is being endorsed by Jesus, instead He said in James 1:27” Religion that pleases God the Father must be pure and spotless. You must help needy orphans and widows and not let this world make you evil.” Do catholic religion is spotless? let's see...

Very simple, let’s go back to the 10 Commandments. (I will only quote some of the commandment, not all of them)

Exodus 20:3 "Do not worship any God except me.

Exodus 20:4 "Do not make IDOLS that look like anything in the sky or on earth or in the ocean under the earth.

Exodus 20:5 "Don't bow down and worship IDOLS. I am the Lord your God, and I demand all your love. If you reject me, I will punish your families for three or four generations.

Exodus 20:6 "But if you love me and obey my laws, I will be kind to your families for thousands of generations.

and I will quote some more Bible verses, you can check your own Bible if you want.

In Psalms 135:15-18 says “Idols of silver and gold are made and worshiped in other nations. They have a mouth and eyes, but they can’t speak or see. They are completely deaf, and they can’t breathe. Everyone who makes idols and all who trust them will end up as helpless as their idols”

Leviticus 26:30-31 “I’ll destroy your shrines and tear down your incense altars, leaving your dead bodies piled on top of your idols. And you will be disgusting to me. I’ll wipe out your towns and your places of worship and will no longer be pleased with the smell of your sacrifices”

Ezekiel 14:5 “When they hear my message, maybe they will see that they need to turn back to me and stop worshiping those idols.

1 Corinthians 10:14 “My friends, you must keep away from idols.”

Acts 17:29-30 (Youth Bible Global Edition, CEV, page 958-959)

“29Since we are God’s children, we must not think that He is like an idol made out of gold or silver or stone. He isn’t like anything that humans have thought up and made. 30In the past, God forgave all this because people did not know what they were doing. But now He says that everyone everywhere must turn to Him.”

Those are just few of the verses that says that we should not have idols or images made up of wood, silver and gold and made by hands of man. Catholic have lots of images and idols, they bow down to those idols, give flowers to those images and worship them. God is not pleased to that.

Other religion practice some of the teachings in old testament for example not eating of pork like muslims. And some religion do not eat anything with blood like "dinuguan / tinumis" in the Philippines. Let's see some passages about that.

Leviticus 17:10 "I will turn against any of my people who eat blood. This also includes any foreigners living among you.

Leviticus 17:11 "Life is in the blood, and I have given you the blood of animals to sacrifice in place of your own."

Leviticus 17:12 "That's why I have forbidden you to eat blood."

That was written in the book of Leviticus in Old Testament. Now let's see what is written in the book of 1 Timothy in New Testament. You can check your own Bible also if you have doubts. btw im using Youth Bible Global Edition CEV

1 Timothy 4:2-5 "They will also be fooled by the false claims of liars whose consciences have lost all feeling. These liars will forbid people to marry or to eat certain foods. But God created these foods to be eaten with thankful hearts by His followers who know the truth. Everything God created is good. And if you give thanks, you may eat anything. What God has said and your prayer will make it fit to eat."

If anyone here is a Filipino or from the Philippines it says in Tagalog Bible

1 Timoteo 4:4-5 "Ang lahat ng nilikha ng Diyos ay mabuti at walang dapat ipalagay na masama; sa halip ay dapat tanggaping may pagpapasalamat sapagkat ang mga ito'y nililinis ng salita ng Diyos at ng panalangin."

Who are those people who do not get married? Priest of catholic right? and it says there in the passages in 1 Timothy if you will read it again that the liars will forbid people to marry.

What I'm trying to point out? Religion is really highly debatable so stop being religious and start and start to be born again in the Spirit.

John 3:3 "Jesus replied, I tell you for certain that you must be born from above before you can see God's kingdom!"

John 3:4 "Nicodemus asked, "How can a grown man ever be born a second time?"

John 3:5 Jesus answered: "I tell you for certain that before you can get into God's kingdom, you must be born not only by water, but bu the Spirit."

John 3:6 "Humans give life to their children. yet only God's Spirit can change you into a child of God.

John 3:7 "Don't be surprised when I say that you must be born from above."

John 3:8 "Only God's Spirit gives new life."

That explains the whole meaning of being Born Again Christian.


james 5 years ago

thank you so much for the clarification confuse no more...i was enliggthened more,i just thank god he didnt hardened my heart rather accept his words all my heart and soul. ..as long as it is written in the bible then it written by god..

let me qoute this one about born again just to answere faith for the last time

faith said:Let me ask you this. ISN'T IT A MAN WHO HAD STARTED BORN AGAIN?

the answere faith was written by GOD not by man...

this is what god said that was qouted from confuse more

:john 3:3 "Jesus replied, I tell you for certain that you must be born from above before you can see God's kingdom!"

John 3:4 "Nicodemus asked, "How can a grown man ever be born a second time?"

John 3:5 Jesus answered: "I tell you for certain that before you can get into God's kingdom, you must be born not only by water, but bu the Spirit."

John 3:6 "Humans give life to their children. yet only God's Spirit can change you into a child of God.

note:this is what i personally experienced...a GODs indescribable power of changing me that leads to me as new creation not in flesh but in spirit..GOD is an awesome GOD

John 3:7 "Don't be surprised when I say that you must be born from above."

John 3:8 "Only God's Spirit gives new life."

That explains the whole meaning of being Born Again Christian.

let me add this powerful verse from god again that change my life and became more obedient to him:

Proverbs 3:5-6 (New International Version)

5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart

and lean not on your own understanding;

6 in all your ways submit to him,

and he will make your paths straight.[a]

encouragemnt taken from faithclipart.com:

these words challenge believers to put more confidence in God's ability than in their own, to not try to analyze and figure out every detail themselves, but to place their belief in God's wisdom, love and strength, to lean on God instead of relying on themselves or anyone else.


james 5 years ago

i dont want arguments anymore i just leave everything up to our GOD i wanna change the topic now..

anyway guys,if you are filipino..sang church kayo umaatend sa pinas before?ako sa victory sa recto..kaso along time ago na yun eh naging malamig kasi ako ke lord eh..im like a prodigal son,,i wast lost and god found me again hehe..now i want to make really stay with god already as i love god more than my life..gusto ko mag church na ako every weekends then merun pang fellowship pag weekdays para talagang mag grow ako.

to manola...if someday by gods grace makapunta ako sa australia eh gusto ko makapanood ng concert ng hillsongs united or makapagchurch sa kanila hehe..im so excited to have christ back once again in my life..


james 5 years ago

i have so many exciting plans..like i wanna share the gospel to my friends..i wanna share gods love to them..though inevitably some would reject it or would even persecute me..then ill take ifif thats the price i have to pay..

before i wanna join 700 club by sharing my part in helping those needy people(needy both financially and most importantly spiritually)but i wasnt able to make it as the world conquered me...

now i wanna change everything..i wanna shout to the world the god is an amazing god and that god is mighty to save!

i wanna share the everlasting love of god and his free gift of salvation..

i wanna show them how much god changed me..and that god had given everyone the authority to feel his grace as log as they accept him as personal lord and savior.

gusto ko baguhin yung pananaw na pagmabait ka pupunta ka sa langit at wag kang sobrang bait baka kunin ka ni lord..now i know its not pleasing to gods sight..

now i realize its not by my good works that ill get saved but it is because of the grace of god..gusto ko e credit lahat ke christ kasi sya lang lahat yung nagdeserve ng glory and honor.pero kung diko man matupad lahat to ill follow gods will...


Manola Flora 5 years ago

How wonderful to share the One True God who wants the best for us all!! God bless you people, Taste and see that the LORD IS GOOD!!! Let's Praise Him at all times, only He deserves the GLORY!!!!


confused? not anymore :) 5 years ago

hey James, Hillsong will be having a concert i think the title is Hillsong Aftermath on June 2, 2011 at Araneta Coliseum. :) sold out tickets though :(


james 5 years ago

exactly..if we just put all our trust to GOD and worship him not just by mouth but by heart and spirit im pretty sure this world will be a better place to live..but GOD knows who truly loves him..he is faithful and he is migthy to save..

if not because of the boldness of other christians in this world..i would have not be able to know god this way..and i thank them for they were used by GOD for me to finally find the real meaning of life..and blessed are those who open their heart and soul and accepted jesus christ as lord and savior for the joy in their heart is priceless...

@confused no more...wow!so sad diko makapunta kasi wala ako sa pinas eh...sarap2 pakiramdam nun kasi sabay2 kayo nagwoworship sa panginoon..yan pinakana miss ko sa pagiging true christian before eh..yung fellowship,yung nararamdaman ko talaga yung totoong saya pagkasama mo yung kapwa mo kristyano..dati kasi yung victory nasa recto pa eh..iba pa ba yung sa u belt confused?pag pray nyo naman tatay ko kasi tumanda na sya di manlang nakakilala ke lord eh...tumanda na di manlang nakabasa ng bible kasi puro sugal inaatupag eh..actually halos lahat sila dun puro ganun ginagawa eh umaga palang inum na tapos sugal..nakakaawa sila kasi nasan si lord sa buhay nila?kung diko nakilala si god ng personal sigurado ako ganun din kabagsakan pero sa ibang paraan ngalang..im so grateful i found christ..i found the real meaning of life..thanx sa lahat ng ginamit ni GOD para makilala ko sya..

my fervent prayer is that my family would mke GOD the center of our lives para kahit simpling life lang eh masaya pag si kristo ay kasama..


james 5 years ago

alam nyo ba ngayun lang uli ako naging active ke GOD?

kasi nabuhay ako sa sarili kung pamamaraan pero wala talaga ako peace of mind..masaya ngayun kasi kasama barkada gimik inum ganun pero pag uwi ko tapos na,sobrang temporary lang..pero one time nakinig ako nung kanta na HERE I AM TO WORSHIP grabe sobrang binalot ako ni GOD ng presence nya..sobra yung love na nararamdaman ko from GOD as in diko ma explain hagulhol nga ako heh kahit anong pigil ko diko magawa ehe..kasi nga sobrang na guilty ako kasi tinalikuran ko sya yet sa isang lapit ko lang sa kanya eh tinanggap uli agad ako..

yung WHO AM I..matindi din yung message ng kanta na yan..truly im nothing without GOD..parati ko pinapatug2 yan..tapos yung mga kanta ni cris tomlin..lalo na yung INDESCRIBABLE nya...lumabas ka ngalang namn sa bahay mo at tumingala sa langit eh sobrang ma amaze ka na sa mga ginawa nya..ngayun ko lang nalaman na although para satin eh napakalaki na ng earth na to eh no gatuldok lang pala to eh compare sa ibang stars!yet yung earth yung pinaka special ke god kasi nandito tayong mga tao nakatira..so amazing..truly god is beyond our imagination and his love for us endures forever.


james 5 years ago

watch nyo tong music video ng indesribable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF9aY49oQTs&feature...

matindi talaga ramdam ko agad si GOD at talagang idol ko sya kasi matindi ginawa nya perfect talaga..

Indescribable, uncontainable,

You placed the stars in the sky and You know them by name.

You are amazing God

All powerful, untameable,

Awestruck we fall to our knees as we humbly proclaim

You are amazing God

sobrang amazing talaga si GOD..diko padin ma fathom yung power nya kung pano nya nagawa lahat to..panalo talaga si GOD hehe


confused? not anymore :) 5 years ago

James ako din sobrang amazing yung ginamit ni God na situation at tao para maging Christian ako. Sobrang iba yung feeling pag nag worship kay God. yun ung feeling na naramdaman ko sa Victory na never ko naramdaman sa Catholic. napaka saya at napaka sarap ng feeling. ramdam n ramdam ko na yakap ako ni God while nag worship. ang victory ngaun sa ubelt, caloocan, malate, d fort, ortigas. marami pa..


Manola Flora 5 years ago

How amazing is this, even though I can't read Philipino, I picked up some of the English words, in regards to Hillsong coming to the Philippines, even though you don't have a ticket because it's sold out, you can still go and wait to buy a ticket at the door, if someone doesn't turn up and there is room they will let you in. That's what happened here and some people without a booked ticket got in and it was amazing!

In regards to the wonderful song by Chris Tomlin, Indescribable.....I love it very much and we sometimes sing it at our church, so powerful, and also that's the name of my radio programme which I haven't started yet. I used to have a christian radio programme called 'revival' and it was presented on a community radio station but it only lasted about 5 years and had to give it up because of other commitments and when I'm ready again hopefully soon I will be going ahead with 'Indescribable' contemporary christian music. Because it's a christian programme, the board want to choose what time it goes on air. Last time I went on air at 7 to 8am on a Sunday morning and it was hard to get any spot at all because the station doesn't want any religious stuff, but thank God they liked what they heard and it was also the favour of God, anything is possible with Him, He opens doors than no one can open.


james 5 years ago

@confused:

tama ka,at yung makapagpatunay lang nyan is yung nakaramdam talaga..kaya nga parang ang sakit na pagpilitan ng ibang tao na ang born again eh isang relihiyon eh..if they only experienced what true born again experience eh sigurado ako they will agree with it will their hearts and souls..simple lang naman hinihingi ni god eh..yung complete trust and obedience..yung e accept mo si christ as your lord and savior let him do all the works..dun lang nya eh iparamdam sayo na buhay na buhay sya..yung makinig ka sa salita nya ng buong puso at wag kang maglean sa sarili mong pagkakaintindi..matindi talaga yung experience na yun sobrang hirap e explain yung joy na na naramdaman mo..yung everytime kinakausap mo sya ng diretso eh although di mo sya nakikita eh nararamdaman mo talaga presence nya..kasi dun ma test ang true faith mo..yung you completely trust him though you dont see him..pero yung holy spirit eh parang binabalot ka ka sobrang gaan ng pakiramdam mo pagkatapos..sana maranasan ng lahat to para maintindihan nila lahat.


james 5 years ago

oh sorry about that manola,we thought your could understand tagalog hehe..ill just explain it in english what i posted a while ago..i mean confused no more and i had experienced GOD in a way that is really hard for any human to understand..only those who are true born again could experience it..and i felt really sad if someone keeps on pushing that born again is a religion if in fact it is an experiencing GODs everlasting love goodness power thru the holy spirit,renewing you not in flesh but in spirit..i really couldnt explain what i feel evertime i praise and worship GOD and evertime i talk to him directly,though i dont see him face to face but i really felt his presence i experience pure joy and peace of mind. GOD was actually asking a very very easy favor from us..to accept his son JESUS CHRIST as our lord and

LORD AND SAVIOR and completely obey and trust him and let him all the works and he will completely make you feel and realize how alive and awesome he is. i hope everyone could experience this so that they will understand that life without GOD is is not fulfilling and joyful..

really you have a radio station before?wow thats amazing hehe..i hope it will go on air again soon..

i was searching some life changing stories of people in 700 club asia and i found jorda escusas stroy...he was a drug addict and a member of gang before,though his family were all christians he felt it weird and boring,thats the time he looked for his own happiness and joined a gang.but some life changing events happend and he is now a young pastor and a a speaker from different affairs and programs..he also runs an a radio and internet live streaming GOD is always willing to accept as long as you are pure to your heart and ask forgiveness and accept christ to take over your life.

manola,if your radio program will resume and it has live streaming in the internet maybe you could give us the site so that if we are available we could listen to it..

this is parstor jordans programs..

perfect rythm the real altenative

http://www.perfectrhythm.fm/

and this is the edge wehre against the flow goes live every monday 1-3 pm i think

http://theedge.ph/what-we-do/the-edge-radiomedia/w...

they are live now so do watch them hehe thanx


james 5 years ago

pastor jordan also realized that if before he viewed born agin people as weird jologs boring etc...now he realized that the true jologs are those who dont have personal relationship with JESUS..because being a born again is a happy and excIting experience and way of life..they have youth congregation where in they do almost all youths activites except smoking drinking and other vices..astig talaga!!as what he said hehe.what amazed me more is he still remember the exact date and time that he accepted christ because the date of his salvation is bigger than his bday according to him..amazing testimony hehe.read more about his blogs..i hope more youths would be able to rad his story so that they will understand how awesome god is...how his power could change everything..and how can he turn a hopeless life into a very meaningful and joyful life..


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Thanks James, I listened to both programmes, I really like 'Perfect Rhythm' with DJ Jordan, it's the sort of music I also like, thanks for letting me know. I will let you know if I go back on air and yes we also have live streaming on the internet. For about 12 years I was involved with another community radio station and was interested in golden oldies rock & roll, rockabilly but now all I like to hear is contemporary christian music and i collect a lot of cd's and I'd love to share with others. I also listen to a christian radio station Vision fm (88fm) not sure if it's online though. It's a great station too.


james 5 years ago

wow thats great!im just a new listener of perfect rhythm and against the flow..when i started to know god few years ago..i was really listening to don moens praise and worship songs..it was really inpsiring and draws you close to god..chris tomlin for me is like his younger version..they have the same style of songs for god..

where as other christian songs are really for youth..

tim hugh was the one who originally song here am i to worship right?

that for me is really the essence of our lives..to live not for ourselves but for god alone..

whats amazing with christian music and christian artists is that they never claimed their songs for their own honor,it is always forsolely for GOD

so anyone who wants to sing it or add it to their albums is no big deal..in fact these singers are so happy to share their songs to everyone..unlike worldly music where in you might be legally sue by the original singer if you include their some their songs in your album or make your own rendition..specially if its still new and really popular..i heard so many legal issues about this..

i always wanted to watch christian concert..its a great feeling to see thousands of true christians worshipping and praising GOD together..you will really feel the power and the holy spirit embracing the entire stadium


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Nothing makes me happier than listening to christian music and I can never go back to where I was before. Just looking up to the sky, seeing and knowing HOW GREAT IS OUR GOD and that He loves me, makes my life complete, my life is in His hands and I trust Him with all my heart in everything. What more can I ask? He's given me His love, His peace, His comfort, His shalom, His protection, His everything, just because I gave Him my life and I've never deserved Him, but He gave it to me freely and freely I receive. How easy is that? He wants to bless us, that's why He made us, He's purpose was to have fellowship with us and because of Adam and Eve's sin we are born separated from Him until we go back to Him through His precious Son Jesus, who made the ultimate sacrifice for us to take us back to the Father. Jesus made the way possible for us. There was no other salvation for us. This is the greatest love story ever told.


james 5 years ago

you wrote is beautfifully manola..it looks like you all have the contentment and joy in life already..im still struggling as im still a baby christian and im still waiting for gods perfect time to turn my life 360 degrees..but what matters most is that im in the right path.. i could hardly imagine my life if i havent known god this way...i couldnt imagine if what kind of path did i take or what kind of life do i have right now without him..maybe im lifeless,mesirable and nothing..again im just grateful for the gift of knowing him..thanx to those christians who shared gods love for me..without them i wouldnt be this close to god..all i knew is that..everyove who surrendered to chrsit has their own priceless stories to tell..i love god with all my heart and soul..and thuogh im still struggling..im always ready to give up everything for him..im just waiting for his own perfect time


Manola Flora 5 years ago

James, you are on the right path, He will guide your steps and will make something beautiful of your life in His perfect time. As a baby christian you are doing mighty well and just give your struggles over to Him, I've done that and He lifted my burdens. Mind you, we still have problems but He helps us through them, no problem is too big for Him who cares for us. God bless you!


james 5 years ago

yep,im stillstruggling but atleast now i know this is a struggle.. before i never thought im sinning because i percieved things normally as long as you are doing good you dont have to worry anymore because i thought being good is enough to please god..

atleast now i have my guidance of what is truly right or wrong..

whats your facebook account manola and confused?just email me at atf_23@yahoo.com thanx


confused? not anymore :) 5 years ago

Manola is already my facebook friend. you can add me, i will just email to you my email address :)


james 5 years ago

yep i addedd both of you already..thanx for the add :-)


james 5 years ago

for those who still dont believe and understand the real meaning of born again i want to listen to this one testimony..this is only one of the millions of people who could testify of how GOD could make impossible to possible..


james 5 years ago

this is the testimoy anyway..i forgot to paste it hehe

http://www.youtube.com/user/tscacbnasia?blend=12&o.../u/6/l5Z8loXTRfU

you can see more of these powerful testimonies in cbnasia


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Maybe some people have the wrong idea of born again christians, because of some people who call themselves born again are just not living the right way they should. Many christians don't also walk the walk or talk the talk. So I would like to say that I am a follower of Jesus Christ and want to make a difference in this dark world for the glory of God, that makes me a new creation and am truly born again! Does that make sense to anyone? :)


Anonymous 5 years ago

Catholics are Christian too...some people forget that, infact the first Christians. I am a BORN AGAIN CATHOLIC. Used to go to church as requried since I was born until one fine day some born again friends of mine opened my eyes to accepting Jesus and letting the Holy spirit lead me daily. One of these friends is Catholic and the other Baptist. Please stop misusing the term Born Again as belonging to a "group". It certainly does not.


james 5 years ago

@ anonymous:

once again born again is not a religion..its a life changing experience when god renewed you spirtitually..its the relationship to christ that could change an infinite difference and not the religion that was never became a basis for salvation.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

The first christians were the people in Acts that's when the church was born. They were filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues and met daily not in a church building but in homes. There were no religions then just followers of Jesus and they went about to spread the gospel, which is the christian's great commission.


james 5 years ago

totally agree with you manola..its so easy to say the word "christian" in fact that is the most misused words because almost everyone claims to be christian yet do not know the real maning of it..even drunkad prostitute liars gamblers etc can say they are christians yep do not do the will of GOD.we cant fool GOD,he knows who his true followers are..as what the bible say"Mathew chapter 7 verse 21-"Not everyone who calls out to me,'Lord!Lord"will enter the kingdom of Heaven.Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter"

even those who claims to be born again yet doesnt show any signs of renewals..they are indeed a fake one because they really dont talk the talk and walk the talk,only those who take up their cross and obey god diligently and worship him wholeheartedly will be acknowledge,so beware of using the name of the LORD in vain.

it is clearly stated that there is no other way aside from jesus christ that could save us,so if we are truely a christian,we just have to trust god with everything and not saints now marry nor anyone else because human like us are limited in powers..they can no longer hear our prayers,,in fact by doing that we provoke god into anger..


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Yes James, a lot of people say they are christians but are not doing the will of God our Father. But like the prodigal son, no matter what you've done or said or doing, He's ready to forgive us and take us in under His wings. He loves all of us with an unconditional love that we will never understand. God gave His Son the living sacrifice, Jesus gave His life to save us from hell and to welcome us into God's kingdom. All we have to do is repent and make Him Our Lord and Saviour, how blessed are we. Who wants to miss out on going to heaven, we belong there so do not be too attached to this world, all things will rust away but not in heaven and we can spend all eternity with our wonderful loving God who just wants us to be with Him. No one else can do this for us, no saint, no statue, no human and especially not ourselves. God thank you for your wonderful mercy and grace!


Anonymous 5 years ago

Wow James! WOW! Please reread your post and see just how judgemental you coem across...So now you are judge of who is a real or a fake Christian? Wow, God truly gave you this power? WOW! There is something SERIOUSLY wrong here and if you don't see it..anyway only God can help you.


Anonymous 5 years ago

Oh and btw, I don't need a youtube testimony when I have PLENTY in my life. Yes God loves us CATHOLIC too and blesses us immeasurably. If we all make it to heaven like we think we will (cause we definitely don't deserve it by our own right) we just might be surprised who we will meet. God is not man and does not think like us. The bible also says noone knows the mind of God, some of you need to remember that since you think you do. And yes I know for sure that my late parents who were CATHOLIC are definitely in HEAVEN. God bless.


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Anonymous, please do share some of your testimonies, it may help others.

Also, James is not judging, he's just saying that a lot of people say they are christians but have not been truly changed because our aim is to be holy because He is holy and no one can enter heaven with sin. Many that say they are christians still carry on and they are bad testimonies to others and putting a bad name to real christians.


james 5 years ago

im tired of explaining everything,why dont you read the bible and see it for yourself before telling me im judgemental..thats the probem with people who lean on thier won understanding instead of reading the bible and see clearly what God said...this is an internet,im not judging but im tired of answering questions from someone who's identity is kept anonymous..i dont wanna judge but i dont know maybe this is another someone who posted here before already and try to hide idnetity for the purpose of argument or what..my advice to you is read you bible and see for yourself what GOD really said to us..

also self righteosness is nothing in the eyes of GOD..we were saved by his own grace and only god can change us,because what we might think is good to us might not be pleasing to GODs sight..just read your bible and open your heart and soul to God and he will show you the right path..

you can read all the explanations above because i answered everything with the verses written in the bible..i dont wanna write it again and again..

all i can say is..blessed are those who were able to know the truth...im a catholic before and in fact almost all of us here are catholic before(and in fact almost all those people who became true followers of christ came from almost the same religion before)..but by the grace of god we were able to finally see the light..now pls dont question that experience that GOD had given us because its like questioning GOD...because only GODs power can change us and not our religion or man made traditions.and thats we we exactly experience..a personal relationship from GOD,i knew so many people would disagree to this but for those people who experience this..only them colud testify how alive and p[owerful GOD is..those life changning testimonies from the peopl that i posted here is just a manifestation of sweet surrender to total trust and obedience to christ..its a spiritual change and its a change that is impossible to human..GOd change them and thats the true meaning of becoming born again..its not a religion,its a personal relationshpi with the living GOD

its a change that is impossible to human but thru the holy spirit,its really indescribable!

for us...the biggest gift in this life is knowing God and having personal relationship with christ..that is what we have..its not a religion nor a man made traditions..its writen in a scripture that

If any man be in Christ, he is a new creation; old things are [judicially] passed away; behold, all things are become new [creation]" (2 Cor. 5:17).

i am not perfect,in fact im a sinner but it is by gods grace that i was saved and not because of my own doing..my self righteousness is in no way acceptable to GOD(otherwise GOd would have not send his son to die for us if we have the power to save ourselves)..

If any man be in Christ, he is a new creation; old things are [judicially] passed away; behold, all things are become new [creation]" (2 Cor. 5:17).

thats the answere why we need God..and thats the reason why god left his throne..to pay for our sins..no one ever could save us aside from jesus..

i dont wanna have another argument again..there are so many people in this world who will accept christ without resistance..we are here for enlightenment not to battle with humans belief or inteliggent interpretations of everything..GOd put his words into flesh for us to be guided in the right path.

i only hope you would experience the power of life changing power of God thru his holy spirit and you will realize we are not judging here..Gods words is the basis of everything and not human understanding..i dont have an argument with you again. i had too much biblical explanation with woman named faith before so i dont wanna repeat it..thanx and God bless

if you dont believe what we say..just read the bibel

GOD gave us free will and he will never insist us to accept him though he will constantly knock on everyones hearts..that why i could really say im so blessed to know god because he gave me pure joy and he made me realize how awesome and good he is..


james 5 years ago

sorry if you think im judgement,but if you read the bible thru the guidance of the holy spirit you will understand that we didnt fabricate words here..it was all written in the scriptures..so if you think i am judgemental and i based it all in the bible..the maybe you could conclude that the bible itself is the judgement and not me..

but the bible is not judgemental..it was put into flesh so that every human would come to know God personally..it was written so that no one could be decieved..it was written so that human wont lean on their own understanding rather completely rely on Gods words..god sets his own standard of salvation and god sets his own rules for us to follow..sad to say there are so many humans who have thier own beliefs and therefore uses the word"i believe"instead of basing everything in the word of god..

its sad to think that not all of the who called god lord lord will be accepted by him(its not judgemental it was written in the bible i wanna qoute the verse)

1 Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord," shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

god said as well Jesus answered him (Nicodemus), "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." "- John 3:2-3

born again is a spiritual renewal that comes after recieving christ as personal lord and savior..born christians who truly experience this has a priceless joy that leads to testimoy of thier life changing experience from GOD.

i dont wanna have argument argument..i would only encourage to read the bible because that is our daily bread..that is the only answere to all out quesitons and the word of GOD is the only way for us to know his reali purpose to us and that could lead to true meaning of joy and salvation


james 5 years ago

sorry for the typos..

i just wanna clear everything..people might not understand the purpose of the enlightenment but blessed are those who experience it for there is no other greatest gift in this world can match the gift of joy and everlasting life that GOD colud offer for those who seeks him wholeheartedly..people would always say we are judgmental without even attempting to read the the the bible and the verses that were posting here..we are judgemental if we fabricate words for our own glory..but true people who come to know GOD personally knew these are all scriptural..we didnt fabricate like ask someone to worship any other man made known GOD or religion aside from jesus..or we are not buliding another religion here that could go against the real teaching of GOD.we are hear to share the gospel..a 100% word of GOD

we are hear not to encuorage religion but to encourage relation..personal relationship to god thru Christ JESUS


james 5 years ago

i apologize if you think im a bit judgemental..i just wanna based everything biblically because GOD wont really accept excuses if we come face to face with him..

were talking here of eternal life..theres no way out after this..

only the bible could tell us the way to salvation bacause that is GODs perfect world..

i think i was once asked if how could i go to heaven...i thought i would go there because im a good person,i love people and is willing to help most of the time to the best of my capacity..but what if died that time?where do you think would i go?

will my self righteosness get me to heaven it in fact god said:

" for all sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Rom.3:23)

thats why god sent his son to pay for our sins,so that we could have everlasting life.

but we have to accept that free gift of salvation..we dont need to crucify ourselves or do superhuman efforts to be saved because only jesus christ can save us,salvation is a free gift from god only if you accept jesus as your lord and savior.

only jesus is the way to heaven:

there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. (I Timothy 2:5-6)

John 14:6

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

if you read the bible wholeheartedly it speak about jesus as the only way..never did god said that our religion is the way to heaven..so pls choose GOD over your religion and pls Choose the bible over your man made traditions because we will die only once and we can never ask GOD to bring us back here to correct whatever we missed from his words..have a blessed day

this is the biggest question that we must take really seriously...our salvation doesnt lean on our hands or our power..our salvation comes from christ who died for us so that we can have salvation.there is only one way to go to heaven and that is jesus christ as what John 3:16 says:

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

we cant lean on our own understanding,we need to based everything biblically because that is the only way for us to know the truth.

its really scary how people percieved salvation like...he went to heaven because he was nice or because he helped so many people,scary in a sense that GOD clearly stated:

Eph 2:8 For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God,

Eph 2:9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

it is really scary if you dont know the word of god because we cant make excuses in front of GOD.

he said:Proverbs 3:5-6

New International Version (NIV)

5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart

and lean not on your own understanding;

6 in all your ways submit to him,

and he will make your paths straight.[a]

it is therefore crystal clear that go warned us not to lean on our own understanding..there i hope we would using "i believe" instead based everything in the bible.

yes we are all christians because we believe in christ..but matters most here is who really follows him every step of the way..scary in the sense that GOD said

Matthew 7:21 – 23

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

i just wanna ask one big question here...who do you want to follow?jesus or religion?

bible or man made traditions?

our religion wont be there to defend us durng that day..but jesus christ can as he is only the way the truth and the life..i hope we will get to read his words for enligthenment because deception is not excusable to god


james 5 years ago

sorry, i mean i hope we stop using the words "i believe"it is more acceptable to GOD if we say"this is what the bible says"

i only trut GOD..i will never lean on my own understanding and i will never let any religions guide me as the bible is the only path to knowing GOD and his purpose to us.

if we read the bible and ask guides guidance we will truly know the truth as he promise

Luke 11:9-10

Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks, it will be opened.

what if one day you come face to face with god and asked you,what have you done to deserve me?did you follow my words?did you live for me alone or you just follow the pattern of the world?did you trusted my words or did you lean on your own understanding?did you defend me or your religion?did you accept my son as your personal lord and savior(as what he stated that he snet his only begotten son so that we wont perish but have everlasting life)or you consult other saints or vow to any statues in which i clearly forbidden?so many questions that is hard to answere if we based on our understanding..but guess what!we still have the best news ever!and thats the bible..it can answere all our questions and can sustain our faith so lets lean on the bible for our security:-)


Respect 5 years ago

I have been a born again christian I think for the most part of my life without knowing the 'label'. I was a catholic on paper but I didn't confess to any priest, I didn't pray much to Mary nor seek 'saints' to pray for me. Not for anything else it's just that I would always think of how dead human beings could pray for me. When I used to attend catholic mass--- I would just wait for the homily and that was about the only time when I would take things seriously. Otherwise I would be just be there having my own conversation in my head with Him. I attended bible sessions, I attended a protestant church. I attended another bible study when I got a bit older which I hated because some so called born again christian lashed out on catholics. So I got turned off and didn't go back. But my ways remained. I didn't pray anything repetitive except for Our Father which I think is still a good praise song. But for the most part, I would just pick up the bible and then talk to Jesus in my mind. One day I met a Born Again Pastor's daughter at work and we started talking. I told her I was a catholic but I would appreciate bible sharing--- and we did that. Again. And again. And again. So today, I do attend Born Again Christian Worship. It works for me. The community helps strengthen my relationship with Him with the abundant learning that I get. I live very, very differently. I love life more (I think) not that I didn't love my life then--- but I know I have a higher sense of appreciation now. My daughter goes to a catholic school, she says that she is born again. She sees me having a pleasant relationship with the nuns even if we both know we have a different religion. I see her play with her friends and she they try not to talk about religion. It is a given that they have differences. But I see respect and love for each other and that what it is all about.

If one day my daughter tries to become a Catholic, she will be given that freedom. But I will continue with my Bible with the services that I attend and still have the same love. By the way, a real christian will not condone other people. I know I don't. I pass no judgement. Our pastors--- well thank God--- I never hear them condone other religions.

So I think the issue is not about the religion really for others. I have been through a bible study with born again christians which I loathed (the experience, not the person)--- but it does not mean that the real christians are to be judged. But the truth is, as I write this--- I know I won't mind if people judge me as whatever they may think; even be included in that stigma--- it does not matter. Someone else will judge us all in the end. :)GB All.


james 5 years ago

i dont wanna judge as well...im just here to say that i was once a catholic(just like any others,because i knew most of born again came from a catholic religion) and i found really so many differences when i started to know the truth..real born agains are supposed to be loving and humble people because GOD changed them spiritually..but sometimes we need to share our new found faith so that everyone would feel the freedom from religion that we felt..but sad to say,everytime we speak about the word of GOD we were mistakenly identified as judging or lashing out someone..i just realized if no one told me about the truth,i could have stayed in the dark until today and vanished without knowing the truth and pay it for all eternity..sometimes truth hearts but if can set you free,and it is better to speak GODs words and let those who open their hearts and minds accept it rather than just hide in the corner..GOD said we have to share the gospel so us many people would be truly drawn lose to him..

actually im a christian but i still struggling,the only thing is have right now is the truth..that i knew what is sin and not in the eyes of GOD..and soon ill conquer all this by GODs grace...when i watched in the you tube that so called"a letter from hell"i was extremely terrified and felt really uncertain..the one who died tried to bother his christian friends for not sharing the word of GOD when he was still here on earth..i felt guilty..so much that i begun to seek GOD again in my life..GOD would change me and let me conquer the word in his own perfect time,and if that time comes..i will be bold with my faith,our lives is so uncertain so sometimes if truth hearts,i would rather speak the truth and hurt them(if thats what they think)than letting them leave this world without knowing the path to salvation..because there is no other pain in this world that could match the pain of going somewhere else instead of having GOD for all eternity


Manola Flora 5 years ago

"Respect", I still don't understand, are you a born again christian, I'm a bit confused because you call it a religion. Religions are man made and there are man made rules. So you never followed all the catholic rules when you were there and if are born again or a follower of Jesus and read and know the bible, what is it that you don't understand? You sound very lukewarm in your belief, and it's like anything goes, respect and love for each other is good but not all roads lead to heaven and that's when love conquers all, we need to speak out for Jesus and show His love. Followers of Jesus, born again christians just follow what Jesus said, not man, and if you've had a bad experience with at a bible study, you are judging too. Yes someone else will judge us all in the end, and all I want to hear is "Well done, my good and faithful servant".......we are His hands and feet and we must speak His truth. If people don't respect me I'm not concerned, I'm only interested in doing my Father's work and yes I do it always in love because He is love and it's His love that will set us free.


james 5 years ago

this is not a battle of religion..so i jus hope that instead of defending our religion,why dont we open the bible and defend GOD instead..only jesus christ can save us..only his words is the path to salvation..its scary because if we stand next to GOD someday,our religion wont be there to defend us nor the traditions nor man made teaching that we acquired or practiced...its really scary to face GOD and give all our excuses as we might say what se said from the bible"DEPART FROM ME I DONT KNOW YOU""..that is maybe the scariest word we'll ever heared.becaUse departing from GOD pays the biggest price that not even the entire worlds possession can pay for it..

as what god say:

What benefit will it be to you

if you gain the whole world

but lose your own soul?

(Mark 8:36)

its just scary because people used the word" i believe"

like im sure he goes to heaven because he was a good person and helped so many people and put up so many charities..i mean i felt bad because this people by human standard could have really go to heaven...but if you read the bible,our self righteousness isn't enough to save us..and that is something that we truly need to share..being helpful or loving is also one of the characteristic of christians..its an overflow of spiritual renewal that we attained from GOD.but being helpful without accepting christ as personal lord and savior is nothing..


james 5 years ago

to manola,

i dont wanna judge but since this is an internet and everyone could post without our knowledge if that person is just the same person and just change his or her identity for the purpose of argument..how could we tell right?

but for me..whoever post everything here..GOD sees us,GOD knew our intentions..we might be able to pretend here but we cant escape from GOD.so now if there are people here who constantly change their identities for the purpose of argument..then i would tell you guys,"you are not defending GOD"you are defending your religion and you might be able to find ways by all your human efforts to defend your religion,but you cant really fool GOD at all.after all,thru posting you will really know if who is true christian or not because you could base it from the words that they are posting..unbiblical and full of human reasons..thats why i dont wanna answere some of their questions anymore because we cant really open their hearts and minds if they keep on fightnig for what they beleived..lets just leave it up to GOD because they might be able to hide from us but they can never escape from GODs sight.

like Respcet calling born again a religion..guys beware"GOD sees what we are doing here,you are fighting us rather GOD because if you felt you need to fight for your religion,then i just end this up..i hope you religion would be there to defend you incase your day in this world is over"


james 5 years ago

let me rephrase this:

like Respect calling born again a religion..guys beware"GOD sees what we are doing here,you are not fighting us rather you are fighting GOD because you constantly believe on your own beliefs rather start opening the bible and seek the truth. if you felt you need to fight for your religion,then i just wanna end this up..i hope your religion would be there to defend you incase your day in this world is over"the most shocking surprise in the end is,what you beleive wont be credited by GOD,because if what you believe is the standard of your salvation,then what is the purpose of christ death on the cross and the bible..guys this is not for our own good..we cared for you thats why we wanna share the truth..we dont judge you rather we love you that we want you to feel the indescribable feeling of peace and joy if you truly accept christ as your lord and savior


Manola Flora 5 years ago

Yes, James, I think you are right, I've also thought about people's identity here, it could be the same person who doesn't like born again christians and is trying to put us off but we know better and I don't have a religious bone in me and I pray I never will. We just love God and His ways and want to shout to the world about His salvation, His grace and mercy, but religious people don't see that, they follow rituals and old traditions, but in these last days we're about to see so many things happen so we must be careful because even christians are going to curse us Jesus followers because of their religious beliefs. Jesus brought freedom in this world but yet he was hated by many, well not much has changed today has it? I love being a Jesus freak, I want to be a radical Jesus follower, cause Jesus was radical......don't you just Love Him.

Anyway, let's not get angry, I call it Holy anger when it comes to defending Jesus. Many times bad things happen in our lives but we must get up and up again until we finish that race for His glory.


james 5 years ago

yes manola your biblically right..even jesus himself was persecuted..and he said that if true christians were persecuted them then he s persecuted them first..and how does if feel to persecute the creator?men i think thats the scariest thing to do because we can never put GOD down,,as he said "if god is with us then who could be against us"we can never fool GOD nor overpower him because in the end we can never save ourselves..we can never rationalize or boast our own beliefs to GOD.we have free will and they choose to defend their religion rather than defending

GOD,they choose to argue with all their wisdom and human efforts rather than using GODS words as enligthenment,,but again there is a shocking prize for those who disobey GOD,and that is something that we dont want to happen.but if they chose to live by their own will..then our accountability is over for we had done our parts already.


james 5 years ago

guys i have to share this powerful testimony by a former drug pusher to god pusher now..this touched my heart

http://gencon.multiply.com/video/item/27/The_Pushe...

now who could question Gods power and faithfullenss for those who truly loves him..and now tell me if this guys is capable of changing himself without GOD?

this is only one example of millions of life changing experience from GOD.pls do watch it..manola if you cant understand it then pls get an interpreter hehe because im sure it will make you cry


LMarie 5 years ago

I am currently stuck with the dilemna of whether to become a BA Christian or remian Catholic. I know God is showing me something and I have already been 'born again' by turning away from sin and giving my life to God, I can feel myself changing, and that I am filled with the Holy Spirit.

BUT the problem I have is that all this has come from meeting and befriending two born again christians, I have never been to their church with them, but I have started to pray, and talk to God, he is with me and at the forefront of my mind always now. I also read the bible daily and am growing with Jesus so much. BUT i have no Christian fellowship. I know of no Catholics that pray so faithfully, talk to God, like I have started to, or read the bible, and talk about the bible often. So do I stay Catholic alone, or join a bible believing church which will help me to grow closer to God in fellowship with other people who know love and try to follow God in every minute of their day and life?

Dont get me wrong, I am sure many Catholics do but I can't find any of them! Just those who go to church on a Sunday, and forget about God until the next Sunday! I am also worried about some of the tendancies I can see in some of the bible believing churches to idolise teachers like Mattheus van der Steen....which for me definitely takes the focus away from God, I mean book signings and a website that makes him look like a popstar? really? Aren't we supposed to feel humbles in the knowledge of Gods word and presence? I would like to avoid things like this wherever possible, so I am feeling a bit lost!

I have prayed, and I feel God has told me that I am at a cross roads in my life right now (moving around until I get a permenant job) and I just need to keep praying and reading his word. So that is what I will do, but I know when I am settled I will have to make a decision.

Confused.com


james 5 years ago

youre in the right track..dont let it go because GOD showed you the way..where are you from?there are so many churches in the philippines if your from there..try to join victory christian in u belt..they really have great passion and so many activities for the youth..youve finally seen the light so dont let go of it..GOD will give you joy and pure peace that this world cant offer..there are so many christian groups everywhere..you need them to strentghen you and guide you..we need people who shares the same faith with us..keep on seeking god and he will give you the desire of your heart..god bless you:-)


renz padilla navarro 5 years ago

hello to everyone! I'm glad to read all of your side. I'll not say you're right or wrong because God Holy Spirit is able to correct you in your own personal time to the Lord (if you have and if you'll listen or if you'll accept the corrections). may i suggest you to read and read the Holly Book so that you will not be confused. don't add or subtract, and don't give your opinion to it. God's word is perfect, it's true, and living so it doesn't need your idea to it. there is no catholic Bible (as if they own the God's Word) nor a "BA" Bible so do not say: "According to the bible of ___" or it just lead to a debate comparing on which translation is the best. WE, who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as GOD THE SON must be one and that is to believe and accept His word. again, do not add or subtract to it. the reason why we are divided in the doctrine is because we do not seek really the truth. we just conform or rely on what we know without asking the Holly Spirit to reveal us the truth. we just directly follow on what our pastor or priest preached to us. WE SHOULD PRAY THAT THE TRUTH WILL BE REVEAL TO US!

If i am Jesus, i am now crying because my people are arguing and have different teaching regarding the Faith. but i know Jesus knows these all for He had already professed this matter.


renz padilla navarro 5 years ago

hello to everyone! I'm glad to read all of your side. I'll not say you're right or wrong because God Holy Spirit is able to correct you in your own personal time to the Lord (if you have and if you'll listen or if you'll accept the corrections). may i suggest you to read and read the Holly Book so that you will not be confused. don't add or subtract, and don't give your opinion to it. God's word is perfect, it's true, and living so it doesn't need your idea to it. there is no catholic Bible (as if they own the God's Word) nor a "BA" Bible so do not say: "According to the bible of ___" or it just lead to a debate comparing on which translation is the best. WE, who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as GOD THE SON must be one and that is to believe and accept His word. again, do not add or subtract to it. the reason why we are divided in the doctrine is because we do not seek really the truth. we just conform or rely on what we know without asking the Holly Spirit to reveal us the truth. we just directly follow on what our pastor or priest preached to us. WE SHOULD PRAY THAT THE TRUTH WILL BE REVEAL TO US!

If i am Jesus, i am now crying because my people are arguing and have different teaching regarding the Faith. but i know Jesus knows these all for He had already professed this matter.


james 5 years ago

to rez,

i totally agree with you bro,we must lean not on our own understanding but we must completely trust GODs words as it was written crystal clear..we must take it literally...we must stop using the words "i believe" rather we must base our faith biblically.we dont need to debate rather we really need enlightenment.the bible was available for everyone to seek the truth..we must take it as it is and stop pushing what we believe without consulting (and not the religion or any man made traditions),then there will be no more arguments or debate..it would have been a very harmonious relationship between all christians


james 5 years ago

.we must take it as it is and stop pushing what we believe without consulting the holy scripture because no religion nor any man made traditions that could save us.only the son of GOD jesus christ can give us eternal life so we must completely trust him and read the bible.if only all of us rely our faith in him thru his words then there could have been no more unhealthy arguments or debate..it could have been a very harmonious relationship for all christians.


Renz Padila Navarro 5 years ago

thats right Bro James. now about the issue of what is a Christian, please consider this matter: That according to the God's word, "You however are controlled not BY SINFUL NATURE BUT BY THE SPIRIT IF THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST LIVES IN YOU AND IF ANYONE DOES NOT HAVE THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, HE DOES NOT BELONG TO CHRIST". Now, do you have the Spirit of Christ? if non, then you are NOT A CHRISTIAN. How do we know that we have the Spirit of Christ? we can know that be examining Galatians 5 "But the fruit of the Spirit is LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, FAITHFULNESS, GENTLENESS, and SELF CONTROL." So i say then that being a Christian is being a holly. i personally cannot fully claim that i am a Christian because i always fail but Praise be to God because its not because of me but its because of Him. now DO NOT BOAST instead test YOUR OWN ACTION.


james 5 years ago

yep,thats why i always acknowledge that im a sinner and its only because of GODs grace that i kept on standing up no matter how many times i fall down and i never boast that im a born again in fact i hardly tell anyone specially if i cant really walk the talk..but im bold with what i believed like i dont believe in any religion and i dont ask help from any saints not put my faith in any man made tradtions like the way i used to be..i talk to GOD personally like he is my friend though most of the times i don't feel worthy of his attention.i just totally disagree with the idean that born again is a religion because it was biblically stated that it is a spirit renewal.


Arun Lazar 5 years ago

Hello All

Being a cristian mean following Jesus. Jesus was born under Virgin Mary. Why God has picked Mother-Mary as the mother of God. Because God has good plan on mother mary rt?. Finaly Mother-mary was taken to hevean as her with out the dead. For what.

So the importance of Rosary every-day in home is so important. Because Mother-Mary is also be the part of gods home-cycle. Actualy we are considering mother mary as one of the meadiater to Jesus. The reson why, Jesus can't reject any of the request which is came from Mother-Mary.

I was born as Roman-Cathelic and I haven't seen any situation where people are disappointed through the request to mother-Mary.

People are not blind, some idiots were miss-readed the bible and conveying the messages wrongly to the people becuase of their personal interest & personal motivation (just for living). It is always good consider mother-mary as your mother. Your mother don't do anything harmfull to you.

Just Belive.. any calarification contact arun.lzr@gmail.com.

I know my comments will not be posted in your site, becuase of your interest.

Regards

Arun..


james 5 years ago

@Arun Lazar

prove me where in the bible the god said mary could be a mediator between human and GOd..and prove me also if where in the bible did GOD said we have to pray the rosary and pray to mary?even just one verse to prove it coz maybe i wasnt able to see it.

dont interpret the bible based on your human knowledge or man made traditions..no one is forcing you to change your beliefs..i just hope you read the bible and follow it as it was written.the bibles says:

In 1 Tim. 2:5, Paul wrote, "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."

so tell me now?did god mention mary if in fact he used the word "one" not two or three..im not here to force you to believe but im not here either to modify the bible and follow any man made traditions.

i just wanna let you know that GOD didnt have a divine have mother otherwise mary created GOD.mary was just used by GOD to become a mother of christ to fulfill the prophesy..he was the mother of jesus when jesus left his thrown to die and pay for my sin,for your sin and for all our sin..mary didnt die for your sin only jesus did,so pls only jesus can save you and no one else..we respect mary and we loved her..but to pray for her and worship her is something that GOD didnt desire us to do if you truly read the bible and ask god to guide you,it will answere all your quesitons.

anyway i dont want any argument here..i just wanna tell you that we follow the word of GOD as it is..


james 5 years ago

you said:

People are not blind, some idiots were miss-readed the bible and conveying the messages wrongly to the people becuase of their personal interest & personal motivation (just for living). It is always good consider mother-mary as your mother. Your mother don't do anything harmfull to you.

pls watch out your word bro ..is that what your religion though you?so much hatred,,we are not idiots here bro..and we are not here for our personal motives..we are here to share the gospel and the truth..so if you dont believe then thats your right and free will but pls dont put so much hatred in your heart,you have no right to call us idiot because idiots dont know how to read nor right..by GODs grace we were able to speak and read..and GODs grace we had finally seen the light..something that we will never ever give up..for how could you go back to darkness if GOD already gives you light


james 5 years ago

sorry i mean throne....

we are here not to fight against you.we are only here to encourage everyone to read the bible because that is the only way to understand GODs purpose in our lives..

GOD give us free will so were are not forcing you to read the bible..its your choice if you want to defend you religion..


manola flora 5 years ago

This may upset many and also Arun......as much as we love Mary and respect her because she was a wonderful human being chosen by God to give birth to His Son Jesus and was a virgin. Later on after this wonderful miracle, it does say in the bible, that she lay with her husband Joseph and that does mean as husband and wife and had other children. James who has written one of the chapters in the bible was Jesus's brother, Jesus also had sisters. Please don't try and change this because it's biblical and no one can add or subtract from the Holy Word that was inspired by God Himself. I admire Mary and her wonderful obedience and her faithfulness but we must understand that she also called her son Saviour, and she was human who was not taken up to heaven it doesn't have that anywhere in the bible, if it was true, it would've been written. If you can find it please let me know. Also it also says that Jesus is the only mediator to His Father no one else. And the rosary is nowhere to be seen or heard in there as well. Again please if you can find it I'd be interested to know. We are not blind or idiots, our eyes have been opened, who is spiritually blind I pray that the eyes will be opened.

ps.....anyway who died for you and me? I get upset when I think how JESUS gets put behind after what He did for you and me, can some of you christians get a hold of this and just put HIM FIRST ABOVE ALL HEAVEN AND EARTH AND THE UNIVERSE AS NO ONE ELSE CAN HELP YOU, HE CREATED ALL AND HE IS FIRST AND THE LAST, ALFA AND OMEGA HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN SAVE YOU..........TAKE IT SERIOUSLY YOU'RE ETERNITY COUNTS ON THIS!!!!!!!!!!!


james 5 years ago

@manola..

very well said...as long as you based everything in the bible,then for sure all of us by faith will agree..we have no right to modify the word of GOD..it was more than enough to sustain our spiritual needs and it is more than enough for us to understand GODs plan for each and everyone of us..there is always as horrible prize for going against the will of GOD and he warned us many times not to be deceived..simply because deception is not an excuse to make.again and again,GOD put his words into flesh for us to follow the light..

jesus died for your sin on the cross..he was the son of GOD yet he humbled himself to pay for our sins and bring us salvation yet look at some people..they keep on hurting christ by attributing his works to other saints..we dont even deserve him yet he died for our sins!!take note of that!!he died for your sin to save you so that you can spend eternal life in heaven..yet some people disregard this..if example you die for your friend to save him yet your friend failed to acknowledge it,how do you think you would feel?

how much more GOD..we owe our lives to him..even every single breath that we take we owe it to him yet we dont solely thank him or praise..and we would just expect GOD to welcome to his kingdom though we dont even serve him while were still here on earth!

lets not put god to the test..he is a loving and merciful GOD yet there is an infinite prize for disobedience.


james 5 years ago

guys.just a brotherly advise..pls odnt put your salvation on the hands of religion or any mad made traditions..this the most important decision that youll ever make..we could live in this world for 100 years yet it is no match for the eternity that is waiting after we die..trillion years is not infinite..lets just completely trust the LORD thru his words..remember our religion or any teaching wont be there if we face judgement..its between us and GOD..our religion wont be there to save us not even the priest or any religious leaders whom we rely our wisdom of knowing GOD would be there to defend us..so lets stop putting our faith on our religion rather lets put our faith directly to GOD thru his words..


Anonymous 5 years ago

Finally something I agree with you about James. I know for a fact that no Priest shall answer for me in Heaven. Yes my salvation is entirely in my hands. You just assume otherwise cause we say we are Catholic. @Manola do you ask your pastor or friends to pray for you? Why do that when you can go directly to Jesus? We believe in the resurrection of the body and life after death. So why can't I ask someone who is in heaven to pray for me? At least I know they are close to God..can't say the same about those of us on earth.


@anonymous 5 years ago

we can agree in prayers and while we are still alive..but we cant ask a dead person to to relay our message to GOD..and we ask them to pray for us but the prayers go directly to GOD not to whoever saint or dead people...read your bible..stop interpreting it in your own knowledge..use the bible as the basis of you answere because you might be able to feel like you win your argument,but what matters most is if your belief is something that what the bible says...you can argue with us but you cant argue with GOD and insist to him what you believe..


Anonymous 5 years ago

My dear whoever it was that responded to me. I will NEVER argue with my God. I do read my bible daily. You do not speak for Him. Thank you very much. Do you also speak in "tongues". I know a lot of "born agains" do. The bible says everyone heard the apostles according to their mother language but when I listen to you guys all I hear is gibberish! And I am being told to stop interpreting my bible according to my knowlegde? Why don't people try removing the log from their eyes before looking mine? I'm done now. God bless you on your journey. You did not help me but maybe you can help some other lost soul.........


manola flora 5 years ago

Anonymous, if you are still there just an answer to your question, Yes, I do go directly to Jesus for my needs and if I really feel to go to my pastor and friends for prayer, I can because it does say in the bible in James 5:14-15 "Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well, the Lord will raise him up". So I see no problem with that, it works anyway! And in regards to praying to the dead, it does also say not to worry about the dead, but leave it all to God. There is only Jesus that intercedes for us to God the Father, no dead person can pray for you, they are not thinking of us here on earth, if they are in heaven, they have other things to do. My sister died and I think of her often but have never prayed or asked her to pray for me. I thank God that because of her I'm close to Him, while she was still alive she thanked Jesus all the time, praise just came out of her mouth and I've never seen such a peaceful soul. She's with the Lord now and it's my job to carry on what she left behind, a love of Jesus and to forgive all who hurt you. When she was sick, she encouraged me to get all our family born again, to make Jesus our Lord and Saviour, she also encouraged me to get baptized in the Holy Spirit so to speak in tongues and I prayed for her not in gibberish, but in God's love language that He only understands. You must know that many catholic charasmatics also speak in tongues, I once belonged to a charasmatic group and a priest sang in that language too. So you see it's not just born agains that do that. It's called a 'heavenly language'.

Also you cannot interpret the bible by your own knowledge, you must ask the Holy Spirit to help you understand God's Holy Word and meditate on it. Ask for Godly wisdom and hope you will see things clearer. God bless you on your journey and hope somehow if we failed to help you it may help some other person who is searching.


james 5 years ago

its really true some sometimes truth hurts because pride is getting involve ..but when it comes to GOD we must learn to humble ourselves and follow his words and commands and never modify it based on our intelligence..just tell me where in the bible it was written that you could make dead or saint a mediator between us and GOD..lets us make the bible as our basis and not whatever we learned from our traditions because GODs words is the same today and tomorrow..GOD didnt change and GOD didnt change his words..now since you said that your reading the bible...pls @anonymous:

educate me some verses in the bible as the basis of your beliefs..i challenge you to pls give me some verses where in god said we must pray for the dead because they could be a messenger to us or i challenged you to enligthen me if which verse in the bible did GOD said we must pray to mary..im not arguing with you..the reason why i challenge you is because i only rely in the bible..if it was written in the bible then i would agree with you.


james 5 years ago

guys i wanna share this youtube site to all so that they will realize we dont need religion..rather ne need relation..a personal relationship to one true living GOD..

http://www.youtube.com/user/excatholics#p/c/6F535319E8FF1342


manola flora 5 years ago

Thanks for the youtube site James, I'm having problems with my computer and can't watch it right now, will try next week hopefully the problem will be fixed, looking forward to watching it. It's so easy to have a personal relationship with the one true living God, that's all He wishes to spend time with us and all we have to do is ask through His Son Jesus who made it all possible!


manola flora 5 years ago

Thanks for the youtube site James, I'm having problems with my computer and can't watch it right now, will try next week hopefully the problem will be fixed, looking forward to watching it. It's so easy to have a personal relationship with the one true living God, that's all He wishes to spend time with us and all we have to do is ask through His Son Jesus who made it all possible!


JC 5 years ago

If you believe that the Bible is the standard of life and obey these standards then you are a Born Again Christian...

Thumbs up to you brothers and sisters of faith


CSLife 5 years ago

I search for an answer between Catholic and Born again. As I have experienced a born again family and lifestyle before, and am trying t further understand the life, and to me the weirdness...of talking toungues etc.

Reading this blog does nothgin but instill my insecurity in the born again faith. Everyone is allowed their out beleif. But his 'blog' it seems all the born again just quote the bible. as a catholic we understand the bible, and life. We choose not to quote it back to u like u are stupid.

If you can tell me genuinely why ur life is so much better than ours then maybe ill start to understand. But dont quote the bible at me...

Thanks for the insight everyone...

CS


Rajesh Louis 5 years ago

Hi Manola...it seems u are living wholely on the words of the bible. so do you realy cut off your right hand if your right hand causes you to sin and remove your right eye if your right eye causes you to sin. The bible can be intepreted in any way....i really sorry to say that bcos of bible there are more than 33000 thousand religion..PLS DONT PLAY WITH THE BIBLE...IT IS GOD HOLY WORD...PRESERVE IT.


Rajesh Louis 5 years ago

Hi Manola...it seems u are living wholely on the words of the bible. so do you realy cut off your right hand if your right hand causes you to sin and remove your right eye if your right eye causes you to sin. The bible can be intepreted in any way....i really sorry to say that bcos of bible there are more than 33000 thousand religion..PLS DONT PLAY WITH THE BIBLE...IT IS GOD HOLY WORD...PRESERVE IT.


Rajesh Louis 5 years ago

"Blessed are the people who worship Jesus on this earth, being called for Eternal Salvation rather than Eternal Judgement"

How happy are we, that we love Jesus from all our heart , mind and soul , we have already placed a reservation in heaven.

Jesus is also very happy with everyone that more and more people are coming to him , but seems more confused now.

It is being very tiring, now a days in heaven, all the angels and saints have been put to work by Jesus.

The heaven has already been divided into thirty three thousand sections and work still in progress to build more.

St John is showing that the church is indeed the Bride of Christ (Revelation 19:7-9), but we have 33000 churches now

Jesus is already being condemned by the satan to have more than 33000 brides wherereas this is very controrary in the bible.

The Bible the most spiritual book for all the christians has become the most controversial book for all the christians.

Oh no ! what is this , fights are taking place in heaven . Is it between Jesus and Satan ? i exclaimed.

No no , somebody murmured.....this fights are of every day now. Even Jesus does not know what to do now.

His one of the apostles, St Peter it seems is not been allowed to enter in one of the sections in heaven.

oh marvellous ! even his mother is not been allowed to enter in some sections...... oh wat is this

The holy spirit is confused now.....he has been highly called by some communities high & low.

Feeling very sorry for St .John the baptist , He is sitiing alone with his community away from the apostles & Jesus.

The whole heaven is filled with chaos, different types of worships going on....Jesus really does not know , where to go ?????????

The early christians and the saints are being criticized very heavily for their oral traditions & Beliefs.

Had it not been their oral traditions , the bible would not have been there and there would been no conflicts amongst the christians.

The early christians are complaning to Jesus about the internet, languages, his mother and his qoute to let Peter to be the head of his church .

They are constantly complaining about Jesus Hyperbole's in his speech maily the 'ROCK ' has become the major issue.

Satan is seen slowly creeping towards heaven gates, while Peter is busy negotiating with one of the communities in heaven.

Oh, he is on a friendly visit to Jesus, asking his permission to give an advise to him for the current scenario in Heaven.

why not have elections here in heaven ! satan exclaimed ....which community is the best...it shud be a democratic christian community.

Communities are excited , to prove themselves right...each one preparing to be true , but disgracing the other.

Satan seems very happy now.....but Jesus is crying bitterly ....his body is continously being divided.

Sources say that Jesus has to die again now.Even God is unhappy , his only son is being sent to earth to die again & again.

The whole heaven is filled with enmity now .....communities are fighting for the body of christ.

Hey i cannot believe what i just saw in heaven, contradictory to the first line mentioned in this letter.

"Blessed are the people who worship Jesus on this earth, but are being called for Eternal Judgement rather than Eternal Salvation"

Ohhhhhhh it was a very horrible dream , but good it was only a dream....otherwise the number would have increased to 66,000.

What are we doing brothers & sisters and why we are doing it ....this is the question asked to each one of us.

The body of Jesus is being contionously divided and the blood of Jesus is being scattered like a blood of a lamb slaughtered at a butcher's den.

Is this is what Jesus really wants......Noooo . Be CAREFUL rather , Cos at the day of Eternal Judgement. Jesus might say.

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?" Matthew 7:21-22

Quoting from the Bible itself , which has been the major tool for some communities to DIVIDE AND RULE

Salvation thru Faith is a grace of GOD , but is it Faith , the only instrument to have salvation . hmmmm than there should be only one commandment in the Bible. LOVE THE LORD GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART , MIND AND SOUL . But Jesus has given a second commandment also ...LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR ALSO AS U LOVE YOUR SELF.... It seems the second commandment is not applicable for some communities.

The question is " The devil also believes and has faith in Jesus that thru his sacrifice on the cross , Jesus has redeemed the world , so is devil granted a place in heaven.

The answer is noooo.....The devil inspite of having faith in Jesus cannot do GOOD WORKS which is essential for our salvation and that is the second commandment of Jesus. Faith and Good works are neccessary for our salvation.

We live in a modern world and man is filled with constant ideas...but we still live on traditions. It is traditions that we come across historical truths.....the passover festivals were held both in the old testament and new testament.

The successions of the apostles were needed to build the church, had the succession not needed ,than Mathias would not have been succeeded in Judas place .

Let us come togather to reunite the body of Jesus with a common doctrine, with a common worship and be humble in our behaviour for not everyone is called to interpret his own beliefs but rather share the same belief which is universal.

The time has come that we shud pray for the lost sheeps in the world who have gone away from us ,bcos it is only the holy spirit to convince these sheeps to come into truth and not humans to convince them. As Jesus said "If they don’t listen to Moses and the prophets,

neither will they be persuaded if one rises from the dead.’" Lk 16:19-31 .


Rajesh Louis 5 years ago

"Blessed are the people who worship Jesus on this earth, being called for Eternal Salvation rather than Eternal Judgement"

How happy are we, that we love Jesus from all our heart , mind and soul , we have already placed a reservation in heaven.

Jesus is also very happy with everyone that more and more people are coming to him , but seems more confused now.

It is being very tiring, now a days in heaven, all the angels and saints have been put to work by Jesus.

The heaven has already been divided into thirty three thousand sections and work still in progress to build more.

St John is showing that the church is indeed the Bride of Christ (Revelation 19:7-9), but we have 33000 churches now

Jesus is already being condemned by the satan to have more than 33000 brides wherereas this is very controrary in the bible.

The Bible the most spiritual book for all the christians has become the most controversial book for all the christians.

Oh no ! what is this , fights are taking place in heaven . Is it between Jesus and Satan ? i exclaimed.

No no , somebody murmured.....this fights are of every day now. Even Jesus does not know what to do now.

His one of the apostles, St Peter it seems is not been allowed to enter in one of the sections in heaven.

oh marvellous ! even his mother is not been allowed to enter in some sections...... oh wat is this

The holy spirit is confused now.....he has been highly called by some communities high & low.

Feeling very sorry for St .John the baptist , He is sitiing alone with his community away from the apostles & Jesus.

The whole heaven is filled with chaos, different types of worships going on....Jesus really does not know , where to go ?????????

The early christians and the saints are being criticized very heavily for their oral traditions & Beliefs.

Had it not been their oral traditions , the bible would not have been there and there would been no conflicts amongst the christians.

The early christians are complaning to Jesus about the internet, languages, his mother and his qoute to let Peter to be the head of his church .

They are constantly complaining about Jesus Hyperbole's in his speech maily the 'ROCK ' has become the major issue.

Satan is seen slowly creeping towards heaven gates, while Peter is busy negotiating with one of the communities in heaven.

Oh, he is on a friendly visit to Jesus, asking his permission to give an advise to him for the current scenario in Heaven.

why not have elections here in heaven ! satan exclaimed ....which community is the best...it shud be a democratic christian community.

Communities are excited , to prove themselves right...each one preparing to be true , but disgracing the other.

Satan seems very happy now.....but Jesus is crying bitterly ....his body is continously being divided.

Sources say that Jesus has to die again now.Even God is unhappy , his only son is being sent to earth to die again & again.

The whole heaven is filled with enmity now .....communities are fighting for the body of christ.

Hey i cannot believe what i just saw in heaven, contradictory to the first line mentioned in this letter.

"Blessed are the people who worship Jesus on this earth, but are being called for Eternal Judgement rather than Eternal Salvation"

Ohhhhhhh it was a very horrible dream , but good it was only a dream....otherwise the number would have increased to 66,000.

What are we doing brothers & sisters and why we are doing it ....this is the question asked to each one of us.

The body of Jesus is being contionously divided and the blood of Jesus is being scattered like a blood of a lamb slaughtered at a butcher's den.

Is this is what Jesus really wants......Noooo . Be CAREFUL rather , Cos at the day of Eternal Judgement. Jesus might say.

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?" Matthew 7:21-22

Quoting from the Bible itself , which has been the major tool for some communities to DIVIDE AND RULE

Salvation thru Faith is a grace of GOD , but is it Faith , the only instrument to have salvation . hmmmm than there should be only one commandment in the Bible. LOVE THE LORD GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART , MIND AND SOUL . But Jesus has given a second commandment also ...LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR ALSO AS U LOVE YOUR SELF.... It seems the second commandment is not applicable for some communities.

The question is " The devil also believes and has faith in Jesus that thru his sacrifice on the cross , Jesus has redeemed the world , so is devil granted a place in heaven.

The answer is noooo.....The devil inspite of having faith in Jesus cannot do GOOD WORKS which is essential for our salvation and that is the second commandment of Jesus. Faith and Good works are neccessary for our salvation.

We live in a modern world and man is filled with constant ideas...but we still live on traditions. It is traditions that we come across historical truths.....the passover festivals were held both in the old testament and new testament.

The successions of the apostles were needed to build the church, had the succession not needed ,than Mathias would not have been succeeded in Judas place .

Let us come togather to reunite the body of Jesus with a common doctrine, with a common worship and be humble in our behaviour for not everyone is called to interpret his own beliefs but rather share the same belief which is universal.

The time has come that we shud pray for the lost sheeps in the world who have gone away from us ,bcos it is only the holy spirit to convince these sheeps to come into truth and not humans to convince them. As Jesus said "If they don’t listen to Moses and the prophets,

neither will they be persuaded if one rises from the dead.’" Lk 16:19-31 .


james 5 years ago

to all catholics here who stands with their own beliefs..let be it!!we are not here to fight with you..we are here to spread the truth and the good news..if you stand with what you believe then you are free to do so...but pls dont argue with us with some unbiblical proofs because we will never buy that..GOD had given us free will so you are free to practice your traditions or beliefs..but there are consequences for every wrong choice that we make...so too much is too much...go on with your beliefs and we'll stick to the bible as the basis of our faith..if you believe that good works is essential for salvation..then it might be..but that is not the basis of our salvation..its so clear that GOD said it is not by good works that youll be saved but by the grace of GOD..when jesus died on the cross he redeemed us all so we dont need to cut any parts of our body just to be saved,we only need to humble ourselves accept christ as savipr and have a personal relationship with him..i just wanna re iterate this that the reason why GOD send his son on this earth is because we fell short to his glory and that we can never be saved by our own doings as we all have sinned..so dont take that away..jesus is the only one that can save us..our faith to him and to his words thru the bible will guide us to his perfect plan for us..so whatever you believed in then its your choice but pls stop arguing with us thru your wisdom because the word of GOD is infinite times better than yours...good work is an overflow of being a christian because GOD renewed you..but it doesnt mean that good work could save you..we're done with this..we might not be able to win you,but it doesnt matter anymore because what matters most is we follow GOD thru his words...there are so many people in there world who would willingly accept christ..so whatever your choices are then let be it..we are done with this..

just to remind you guys that this topic is primaly for religious people before who finally seen the light and left those religions and traditions and focus everything to jesus..so if you dont believe us then thats your choice..we are not here to fight with you..we are to spread the good news,if you dont believe then just go and follow your wisdom..

to manola,pls dont answere it anymore..in this worlds where people follow their own will,we cant really tell if these people are the same people who repeatedly bragged their human wisdom for the focus of argument...as long as we know the truth then we are all winners...that is something that they couldnt take away from us


manola flora 5 years ago

I agree with you James, don't really know what CFlife and especially what Rajeh's on about. It's becoming really weird. I am a follower of Jesus and that's what it's all about and no one can ever change that! Glory to God!


james 5 years ago

exactly manola,some are just here purely for the purpose of arguments and to defend their man made traditions and religions..they might think they win their own beliefs but they can never fool GOD..after all GOD is the true author of our faith and he would excuse no one who tries to go against his words...i will never buy any traditions or man made religions as they will never bring salvation nor peace and joy to me.thats all i wanna say


anamae&luzzete 5 years ago

i LOVE TO WORSHIP GOD.. AND READ BIBLE EVERYDAY.. I HOPE ALL OF U WILL SEE THE TRUE SALVATION OF GOD.. NOT BY EVERY WORD OF A PRIEST... GOD BLESS US ALL!


bea 5 years ago

i was a roman catholic b4.. since i was in high school i joined some of churches activities in catholic without understanding the real essence of it coz in d very 1st place i never feel d' holy presence of God.. but then wen i read bible, God brings me in Exodus 20.. i was shocked and cry over Him.. Praise the Lord that He opened my blinded eyes 4 how many years.. and also my families. i can now stand and testify how God awaken me and face d truth. i can proudly say that I am a BORN AGAIN christian.


precy 5 years ago

born again christian where i can feel d holy presence of God.. i learn how 2 talk, to cry, how 2 use d bible, share His words where u can feel that u have a freedom that everyday is a great and exciting adventure because u walk with Him, sing His praises and everything 2 Him and 4 Him without any dictation of any reference.. a place where YOU and God alone..


precy 5 years ago

born again christian where i can feel d holy presence of God.. i learn how 2 talk, to cry, how 2 use d bible, share His words where u can feel that u have a freedom that everyday is a great and exciting adventure because u walk with Him, sing His praises and everything 2 Him and 4 Him without any dictation of any reference.. a place where YOU and God alone..


james 5 years ago

it was truly amazing experience..and only those who accepted christ could feel this way...i hope more eyes would be open before its too late..im struggling but i found the truth.with that,i will never ever go back to any religions where christ wasn't solely the center of worship..no one can ever deceive me agin in terms of my knowing GOD


John 5 years ago

Sorry to be mean, but you have been fooled by those false preachers.


John 5 years ago

I'm a Catholic defender apologist. Born again believes that faith can save them alone, which is not advisable at all.

1.) Confession = Our lord God, Jesus Christ gives authority to the apostles to do confessions as per Jesus: "Whatever you forgive here on earth, will be forgiven in heaven".

Guys: email me at: admin@ministryofaltarservers.cz.cc for more explanation as this comment box does not suffice.

2.) Prayers = The strongest mean of communication with God, the reason why we are praying the rosary every day is for intercessions and praise to god as well as for our souls and the souls of our loved ones. It depends if you wanted to do it at 6PM. Email me as well.

3.) For debates.. please email me. admin@ministryofaltarservers.cz.cc


manola flora 5 years ago

Oh dear John, the catholic defender apologist!!!!!! God help us all from this religious traditions and repetitious prayers. If you read the bible it Jesus says clearly that only FAITH pleases God but we are only saved by believing in Him and by the blood He shed for us. Faith without action is dead.

Jesus never confessed anyone He already knew what they had done anyway, He gave the apostles authority to heal people and spread the good news, He certainly didn't tell them to do confessions. And praying the rosary every day, that isn't intercession and not even praying to God and it says clearly to leave the dead alone. The only prayer that He left us is the Our Father and all He wants is simple prayers from our hearts and communicating with Him in spirit and in truth. Born again means that you make Jesus the Lord of your life once you make Him your Lord and Saviour you become a new creation, the old one is gone and He makes something beautiful of your life just like He's done with mine and many others. You should also know that there are a lot of born again catholics, like the catholic charasmatics and I hope they grow more and more. I will never email you for any explanation as you are leading people astray with your own ideas. I only believe in God ideas and I'm sticking with Him and His Word, not silly man made words and laws. I fix my eyes on Him MY DELIVERER THE LOVER OF MY SOUL!


Leo 5 years ago

CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A RELIGION BUT IT IS A RELATIONSHIP...CHRISTIAN IS COMPOSED OF PERSONS WHO ARE SAVED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST...BE BORN AGAIN....


james 5 years ago

john,before you boast yourself and look for an arguments better think first if you are raelly going toward GODs words because there is a price not even the world could pay for those who disobey GOD...no one can be above than GOD so if the basisof your argument is merely on traditions then pls seek the truth first as it will set you free..GODs word was put into flesh thru the bible..so now tell me?where are youg etting the basis of your argument?and GOD taught us to love and to enligthen one another and not to argue...we are here for enlightenment and not to go against GODs word as disobedience pay its price!!

now before you spread your argument ask yourself first...are you really spreading the exact word of GOD or your just here ready to die to defend your man made traditions?!

and fyi!! we are not being fooled...we finally seen the light and GOD saved us by letting us know the truth before its too late...we were once decieved but now by GODs grace we were finally set free...


james 5 years ago

exactly manola..why would you bargain the salvation that GOD had freely given you into something that will make GOD angry..i will never email john as well as he is not capable of offering salvation(im not looking for a sinful argument rather im looking for some life changing testimonies of how GOD changed them and saved them)..i will never ever compromise my salvation into destruction and no one can ever fool me again..when GOD saved you from deception..that is the time that you knew that you will never ever give it up!!so john pls give others the chance to taste GODs gift of salvation,they deserve to know the truth and experience GODs grace..let them hear the truth and let them fully rely and fix their eyes to GOD thru the bible..some would pray for you that you might experience what mostly true christians experinece as a ..but for us to be impressed with your hypocritical knowledge and man made traditions is something that will never ever happen!


manola flora 5 years ago

Amen to all that James. Only His truth can set us free and WE ARE FREE INDEED! Praise God. We do need to pray for people, friends and family who are still in bondage and are deceived, that they will soon see the Light before it's too late. How blessed are we who have been set free not by our doing but by His Grace and Mercy and all we had to do is make Him our number one in all. I'm so glad and happy that I can call Him MY FATHER and I am His child, He has given us all we need, we just need to follow Jesus's example. When we get a bit upset is when people who don't know the word of God, start preaching man made laws and rituals which are not what God wants. Because we now know the truth we don't like it when someone speaks otherwise to deceive people just like the evil one wants to do. It has been written that this will happen in the last days and it's happening. But we do know who wins in the end......it's written in the last page of the bible. Praise God!


Believer 5 years ago

I was born and raised catholic, went to an all-girls catholic school, run by nuns. My great grandpa was a priest, and my cousin is a nun. I grew up in the catholic tradition, the whole nine yards for 42 years. I love my family with all my heart. But growing up in a household where gambling, alcohol, cheating on wives, abusive relationships, you name it, was normal --- i didnt really know where i was spiritually. I figured if I died, people will pray for my soul, and i will eventually end up in heaven. I had a dysfunctional relationship with God, for sure, because I did everything that displeased Him. Anyway, to make a long story short, I met a Christian man in 2002, I accepted Jesus into my life in July 2005 and we got married a month later. I learned so much about Jesus, His Grace and Mercy, by reading The Bible. His Words uplift me, guide me and strengthen me. I never had this beautiful feeling before. Jesus is my Lord and Savior, and that's all that matters. It is not religion, works, or empty prayers that save. It is the Blood of Jesus. God bless u all.


jo 5 years ago

Recently I have become a born again christian at the age of fortyfive praying and reading the bible in my bedroom.After asking the Lord into my life, asking him to forgive me,and thanking him for dying for me.He has changed my life completely, before I relise I was just a nominal christian who didn't go to church.It wasn't real, now I only live to love, praise and obey our Lord and am also filled with love towards my neighbours through the grace of our lord and saviour Jesus Christ. We are all Gods Children remember that all of you. I make no judgement on anyone. I am just a sinner asking you all to love and obey our God and love each other as Jesus commanded. I now attend a community church, we also have a local multi faith church that holds different sevices, I go and pray with them. We call our churches our friends next door and some of us visit each others services and pray for our community. If you have Christ in your heart and let the holy spirit rest in you, love and obey christ, treat everyone you meet with kindness, love and respect.Then the church you go to dosen't matter.Let Christ be our judge no one else, we are all just servants. Our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ bless you all!


I am BA 5 years ago

I do not get why a lot of catholics here ask why born again christians are always out to get them. I have an answer for that. God said GO AND MAKE DISCIPLES. In fact, one born again church's reasons for existence are only two things: HONOR GOD and MAKE DISCIPLES.

Others say they do not pray to Mary when in fact they pray to Mary to pray for them. How can you say that is not a prayer? What is your definition of prayer, btw?

Why do catholics have to confess to priests who are human not directly to God?

Why can't priests marry when it doesn't say so in the bible?

Why do they have idols (even if some say they do not worship them, why do you have them still?)?

Why do they believe in purgatory when there's only heaven and hell?

Why are the only ones who can read the bible are priests?

Born again is not actually a religion but a relationship with God and I am proud to be one.

Lastly, I am not out to get catholics like most catholics think. I just do not understand their beliefs when the bible is very clear on its teachings.


tina 5 years ago

ive read alot dated back on here 2yrs my one and only comment is ask GOD your questions and he will answer you the truth!!!god bless


5 years ago

Exactly, I am BA! These are the questions i didnt dare to ask when I was a catholic. I didnt know any better, and i had no idea that there is a clearer path to Jesus and my salvation.

It seems that i was always doing something that was part of tradition, yet did not have any impact in my connection with the Lord. That was our way of life then.

It was difficult at first to make that shift. But God works in mysterious ways. It has been 6 years since, and there is no turning back.

I am blessed to have met that BornAgain Christian man, now my husband, who persistently shared with me the gospel. If not for my dear hubby, I would still be a lost soul.

One thing for sure, when i die, i know where im going. To God be the glory!


believer 5 years ago

Sorry guys, clumsy typing. That was my post up there. E was actually Believer. I apologize.


believer 5 years ago

Sorry guys, clumsy typing. That was my post up there. E was actually Believer. I apologize.


jo 5 years ago

What some people don't get is that being a born again christian is just a term for anyone who excepts christ into their lives. The holy spirit enters them, it happens to different people all over the world.They can suddenly have a revelation,it happened to Paul on his way to Damascus,the lord converts them it is not a sect. This only happened to me recently, I had no issues at the time,I had no major problems as some people seem to think, I don't drink, smoke, have no addictions,and have been celibate for years.I thought I was a bible reading non church going christian and was influenced by no one until christ changed that one day. All the old testament and new testament suddenly fell into place and I Knew I had to ask him into my life and its awsome he has changed me in so many ways.One of my greatest loves is music all kinds of music, I now can only be botherd to listen to christian music anything else seems pointless. Then I decided to join our local church.The experiance is so awsome that so called born again christians want everyone to experiance it. The catholic chuch was founded in the fourth century and destroyed a lot of early churches espeacialy ones that had been partly funded by women. The reason Mary is thought of so highly in the catholc church is they wanted a female figure represented in church but they didn't want it to be Mary Magdelene who is one of the founders of christianity as she was the first to see christ risen, so they lied and put the story about that she was the adultress that Jesus saved from being stoned. The bible dosen't say who it was. The catholic church did not recant this until the 1960's. If their church really represnted christ it wouldn't attract all sorts of evils but that could be said about alot of churches and so called christians. Jesus told us his real followers would be despised and that many would follow a false version of him. Even the way he is depicted in the catolic church and on television and in movies is wrong.He looked like any other Jew and Judas had to point him out by Kissing him. Jews did not have long hair it was seen as a disgrace 1 corinthians 11 verse 14. Also at that time carpenters were also stone masons so Jesus would not have looked like he is depicted. His humanity was changed largly by the catholic church. The catholic church also wanted to destroy the jewishness of christianity and did not take any notice of its traditions we comemerate Christs crucifixtion on Good friday which is ok because time and dates don't really matter but I believe our Lord not them. Christ said he would be in the tomb three days and three nights and he was. The jews have holy sabbaths not just the weekly sabbaths Christ was crucified on one of these days before a holy day sabbath. The Gospel of John mentions that the day after Christs crucifixtion was a speacial sabbath. Take 31AD as an example the jews had a sabbath on a wednesday in passover week. Jesus would have been in the tomb exactly three days and three nights and rose from the dead saturday evening.His followers found the tomb empty the following day Sunday. Jesus dosen't make mistakes he means what he says. HE IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.


jo 5 years ago

sorry made a mistake sabbath was on a Thursday would have been cucified on a Wednesday.


rob. 5 years ago

you should know what is the history of the roman catholic church and why all this things is so sacred to them I'm a roman catholic from Philippines.. all most a thousand of years ago when the church was built, why the roman catholic church still strong after so many sect born? they are all saying we are the real one but my question is why the roman catholic church still the most largest and almost a billion member in the whole world?


i'mAProudBornAgainChristian 5 years ago

After reading such comments, i felt sad. Thinking why there are people who hates Born Again Christians. I'm only 13 yrs. old, my father decided to convert into a Born Again Christian. At first, it's so hard for me to accept the way they worship, but fin'lly I love the way we does. Many people told us "you're crazy" but like what David does, it's for God's sake. Let's respect other's religion, co'z it's not what the religion is, it's that how we connect and communicate with God. Thanks. Godbless you all.


i'mAProudBornAgainChristian 5 years ago

After reading such comments, i felt sad. Thinking why there are people who hates Born Again Christians. I'm only 13 yrs. old, my father decided to convert into a Born Again Christian. At first, it's so hard for me to accept the way they worship, but fin'lly I love the way we does. Many people told us "you're crazy" but like what David does, it's for God's sake. Let's respect other's religion, co'z it's not what the religion is, it's that how we connect and communicate with God. Thanks. Godbless you all.


catholic most dominant .. 5 years ago

that is true, we believe on Christ, but u should know the wrong lecture of born again.. i hope to make it correct someday.


I am BA 5 years ago

catholic most dominant - and you mean 'wrong lecture of born again' by??

rob - what about the history of Roman Catholic? Being a dominant religion does not make it right. Your beliefs are not in the bible.


manola flora 5 years ago

If you read the bible Jesus does say we must be born again. He said it and I believe it and that settles it!!


james 5 years ago

its not about what religion was the longest one one what religion is the most dominant...its about who truly worships god in heart and in spirit..your religion cant save you..only jesus can!

you're religion is not the basis of knowing the truth..the word of GOD is the source of truth...don't rely on your religion..seek the truth and the truth will set you free!


james 5 years ago

sorry about some typos...remember paganisn was even longer compared to catholicism but god was provoked by their idolatry..so dont tell me that since catholicism is most dominant and almost the oldest form of their religion does that mean it is the GOd chosen religion!in in fact GOD didn't tell us that our religion could save us...

it is our personal relationship with jesus christ that could save us and change us....SO FOCUS YOUR US ON GOD THRU FAITH AND THRU HIS WORDS(THE BIBLE)..JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR US TO SAVE US SO LET HIM BE THE SOURCE OF YOUR JOY AND SALVATION


james 5 years ago

TO catholic most dominant :

prove to me that being a born again is wrong..give me your basis biblically...you might not be able to prove it..but i could prove to you many times that most of catholic teaching are against the will of GOD...so if it is agaisnt the will of GOD why don't you ask yourself..are you pleasing GOD of provoking him to anger..i asked that to myself before when i finally seen the light...those times that i worship the idols is something that is not pleasing to GODs sight,,those times that i worship marry and made her as mediator between me and GOD was something that wasn't written in the bible..those times that i thought by simply doing good works and pursuing self righteousness is something that wasn't written in the bible...now tell me,you think being born again is wrong if in fact all those wrong beliefs were being corrected?!...GOD set us free from wrong form of woshipping..by GODs grace,those people who became born again are now taking the right path..


james 5 years ago

i mean those times that i thought by simply doing good works and pursuing self righteousness would save was something that wasn't written in the bible...


I am BA 5 years ago

Well said, James!


wee 5 years ago

I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth. And in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord: who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; he descended into hell; the third day he rose again from the dead; he ascended into heaven; sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from thence he shall come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of Saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting. Amen. (Apostles' Creed - Roman Ritual)

I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And I believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God. Born of the Father beyond all ages. God of God, Light of Light, true God of true God. Begotten, not made, of one substance with the Father. By whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven. And he became flesh by the Holy Spirit of the Virgin Mary: and was made man. He was also crucified for us, suffered under Pontius Pilate, and was buried. And on the third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead. And of his kingdom there will be no end. And I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. Who together with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified, and who spoke through the prophets. And one holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. And I await the resurrection of the dead. And the life of the world to come. Amen. (Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed - Roman Missal)

A partial indulgence is granted to the faithful, who piously recite the Apostles' Creed or the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed


james 5 years ago

to wee,

that is indeed a good recitation...but GOD didnt teach us to pray that way..GOD wants us to communicate to him freely as if he is our friend..come to think of this,if you have a friend who is right in front of you and you talk to him in a form of recitation without open communication,how do you think he would feel?and was holy catholic church written in bible?

we were given freedom by GOD but that doenst mean that every freedom we choose would lead to salvation...read your bible because that will lead to salvation that you're talking about...

@i am BA:thank you so much..i might be leaving a life that is not pleasing to GOD sight right now..but atleast my eyes and mind were open to reality..that i wont be deceived by religion again!


manola flora 5 years ago

Wee......I see you learned the catechism because I couldn't help but notice your repetition of prayer. There is only one prayer in the bible, (God's own words of course) and that is the Lord's prayer, Jesus also prayed for us to the Father before he was crucified. There is no other prayer in the bible (again God's own words.) Real prayer comes from the heart and the Holy Spirit helps us to pray too. I hope somehow you will find the true way to God and remember Jesus really didn't like religion or religious people. But He loves you to believe in His precious Son and also most of all He loves you (us) to have FAITH and to believe in His Word, so get rid of religion and follow the King and fix your eyes on Him, our Creator. Jesus left the glory of heaven to come down to this dark world to die a horrific death to save us and give us life eternal, so let's give Him all our praise and worship, there has been no other but Him, do not belittle Him in any way, GIVE HIM ALL THE GLORY, THE KING OF KINGS AND THE LORD OF LORDS. Anyway what is this reciting thing and creed thing, I know where ur coming from, I was there once and am glad to be out for 10 years now.....but with God's incredible grace and mercy He took me out and made me FREE in Him and I am free indeed. If only all who call themselves christians would get their act together and unite the world would be a better place, the basic source of christianity is believing in THE TRINITY. Also christians should follow Jesus's footsteps and imitate Him, healing people in His name, preaching the gospel, the Good News, if that happened this world would definitely be a better place, come on real christians RAISE UP, TIME IS RUNNING OUT!!!! God bless you all!!

I will stop here cause I know someone will say I'm judgemental right???


james 5 years ago

very well said manola..i totally agree with every singles words that you wrote..its an enlightenment to those who are willling to choose the right path to joy and salvation...but unfortunately there are still so many people who were blinded by their beliefs and man made unbiblical traditions..even in the bible it was already written that not all will follow christ..so its a matter of choice for each and everyone...to die for thier religions and lost their salvation..or to forsake foolishness of this world and focus their eyes to the real savior and attain the priceless salvation that god had gifted us thru christ death and crucifixion...so pls choose the right choice because "no amount of wealth in this world could redeem your soul...what is it for you to gain dominance and praise from people if you losses your own soul in the end"

again its not a matter of who is the oldest or the most dominant religion...its about faith and following GODs words thru the bible...the dominance of your religion is not the basis for gaining salvation..only christ could could save us and no one else!!


5 years ago

Here's the bottom line. This debate will never EVER end. I myself, am Catholic. I am NOT proud of the history behind it (inquisition, sex abuse scandals, etc). I also can't stand the corrupt political systems here in the U.S. Does that mean I'm going to move out of America to live somewhere else? NO! All my life I have chosen to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, my Savior.

I pray to God for wisdom and help, all my days. I really don't give a darn what the Pope says. Yes, he's the leader of the Catholic Church, but that doesn't mean I have to go by EVERY word he says. After all, he's just a man...a man that I'm sure has indigestion and headaches, like any other human being on Earth. My faith and truth comes from God, and the never-ending love from Jesus Christ. Jesus is risen, he is NOT dead and never will be! Yes, I make mistakes in my life (as any other human would). I acknowledge what I've done wrong and ask God for forgiveness, and most importantly, the willpower and determination to sin no more. Most Protestants/Born-agains/etc, won't acknowledge Catholics to be Christians, but we are. We all accept Jesus Christ as our Savior. And if you haven't, well that's your choice. When I come across a Protestant/Born-again, the only thing I want to do is give them a huge hug because I know I'm not alone in this world, and that there's someone like me who also shares the love and passion I have for God.


manola flora 5 years ago

D...great, you're a born again catholic, you're on the right path! There's a lot of people like you and that pleases God and yes JESUS IS ALIVE!!


manola flora 5 years ago

James, always love your wise words, God bless you as you walk with Him and share His wisdom.


james 5 years ago

to manola,thank you so much..your walk to GOD as shown by your strong conviction inspired had so many people like me,your faith can really move mountains..

to D...actually we are not here to debate nor to boast ourselves..our main purpose here is to share this priceless feelings of joy and peace of mind after accepting christ as our personal lord and savior..im not perfect either,in fact i have my own shrotcomings and i humbly acknowledge that i need help for me to finally surpass my struggles..but what made me different than before is that,now i knew the truth and it indeed set me free from so many wrong beliefs...

we are actually here to share our testimonies of how GOD changed us in the way that is impossible for us..we are here for enligthenment and sharing GODs amazing love to us...but we need to realize that we must base everything in the bible because that is the gods words..but unfortunately,there are so many people here who tried to question our faith..it's so sad to know that many people are willing to die to defend their religions or man made traditions than to follow christ and read the bible...GOD made his words to flesh thru the bible yet it's really ironic to know that many people would ignore it and would rather rely everything to their religions or the head of their religions:-(

just come to think of these..how many people grow old or even died without reading the bible?its really sad to know that many people just pass away without hearing the good news:-(


I am BA 5 years ago

D, I am just confused with the Catholic system's beliefs that oppose the bible. If I were to believe in something, it wouldn't be selective beliefs as there is only right and wrong. I chose to be a born again Christian because I believe in all that's being preached there, which are all bible-based. With that said, because you are Catholic, I assume you pray the rosary, have figures of Jesus, and such which are not preachings in the bible. Correct me if I'm wrong.


james 5 years ago

@ I am BA....youre right....i just wanna clear it as well that born again is not a religion as what other people always believe...its a transfomation that only GOD can do in our lives after accepting jesus christ as our personal lord and savior....its a renewal of spirit.when you accept christ wholeheartedly,he will change you and make you a new creation...thats what born again is...

i could hardly understand why some people would chose to argue if in fact the only answeres to all our questions is the bible...i could hardly understand why some people chose to follow religions and traditions rather than following christ...and i felt sad because some people would seek for guidance from their priest or other religious leader if they can seek all the answeres to the bible...:-)

its really ironic that the" jesus who died for our sin"is not the one that is being exalted...i could hardly believe that many will be deceived..i just hope that people here will find the truth


iamrey 5 years ago

I am a Catholic since birth, so does my family.

I was introduced to BA by a special friend which I really admire. We have been together for 5 months. She's a BA and I am a Catholic, for that span of 5 months we've developed a very special relationship; honestly we already acted as a couple. At first she didn't tell me that she's BA, until it came to the point that I guess her conscience cannot handle it, she told me that we cannot longer see each other because of our religion. (by the way she told me that BA is not a religion its a relationship with God, which I fully accepted and understand). Now I feel the pain because I miss her company, I miss the fun and moments that we share together. This was my first time to enter a relationship since birth (I'm 23y/o), so it was pretty hard. I cry every time I think of her.

The only way for us to see each other again is for me to be a BA. At first I was hesitant to do that because I do not want to be converted just because of a girl. I should be converted because I want to develop a relationship with God not because of that girl.

NOW the dilemma that I am facing right now is that, what if I become a BA how will my family accept me? there are to many doubts that's keep coming on my mind every time I think of that. I also think of how/where are we going to be married eventually, my catholic relatives should be there. I also think of my family traditions like the Holy week, etc.

this was taken from James' comment above:

"...better are those who are persecuted in this world for greater are their rewards in heaven..." - I've been inspired by this :)

By the way, I already attended to their church twice and I was amazed. I really felt that I am talking to God, compared to the usual catholic mass where in we recite prayers that I really don't know where it came from.

Now I pray directly to God, I attend Catholic mass every Sunday for the sake of my relationship to my family and Sunday is family day.

I also pray that God will enlighten my family for me to be able to be converted. I want a deeper relationship to God, but there is too many doubts.

Currently after we stop seeing each other, I see God more than the girl. I am asking for God's help. I am so confused and I feel helpless.

I do not want to surrender my love for that girl, and specially I do not want to miss this opportunity to know God better...

please help me pray. i need help...


manola flora 5 years ago

iamrey, why can't you both be still friends and get to know each other, why not pray together to God and ask for answers. Even though you're a catholic and she's BA, you are still both christians, you believe in the Holy Trinity, can't you both work things out? Your family should know that you're not changing religion but only getting closer to God. This religion thing makes me so sad, I wish christians would unite and get it right so the world would be a better place. I spoke to someone the other day and told him I was a born again christian and he replied, "I'm still a bad catholic", and I replied, yes, I also was there once. Obviously the answer here is, giving your heart to Jesus and inviting Him in your heart, having a relationship with Him does change you from the inside to making you a better person, changing your life for a better one and trusting Him fully and knowing where you are going, and that's heaven bound! Some of my immediate family are born again, most of them are not and it's ok, they've accepted it, but whenever I speak about my favourite subject, "Jesus", I still get attacked and ridiculed, but it doesn't stop me anyway, I LOVE HIM TOO MUCH, HE DIED FOR MY SINS AND SUFFERED ON THE CROSS TO GIVE ME AND THE WORLD ETERNAL LIFE, SO WE HAVE A CHOICE, PLEASE CHOOSE THE RIGHT ONE!!!! God bless you and may you re unite with your girl, will pray for you!


iamrey 5 years ago

@manola

thank you for the reply, I thought this thread was already inactive...thank you again for the reply.

She doesn't want us to be close friends anymore because her church told her not to be friends with Catholics (exceptions with her co-workers).

"...why not pray together to God and ask for answers...."

She already did this to her ex BF. She guided him to be a BA and their relationship lasted for 4 yrs. Now she's thinking that if she guided me it will be the same mistake again. I understand the trauma that was caused by her past relationship. So I already accepted that she can't help me with this. For now I think God is only my team mate to win my goal. Nothing is impossible if I pray, God can see my heart.

By the way, I attended her church last Wednesday. She arrived late and just walk in front of me. She didn't even talk to me even after the church, it was like I am not even there :( It's OK I will be still attending every Wednesday.

Thanks again Manola!. I wish everyone thinks the same way like you :) It's not about religion, it is all about our relationship with God...

Thank you for the prayers, Godbless! :)


shawn tappori 5 years ago

hi to all u CHRIST follower

i just read some of your comments

i am a roman catholic by birth and i do not know where i ll go after i am dead

but one thing i know that all of your debate about THE RC"S & BA and many more but can any of you tell me that isint this the same word of God that jews followed

before CHRIST so why arent we all JEWS and then christ came and we became CHRISTIANS but it is said notting is perfect or permenant on earth so there were divissions in christinaty

some did it for their own selfish purpose like martin luther who wanted to marry again so he formed another sect

any ways can any of u answer me

my grand parents who died before B A came into existence

have they gone to paradise or ......

and their folks and their folks

i know one thing for sure that any of u boasting or just

trying to spread knowladge if u were born in a family who followed other religion u would be bragging about that religion so please stop being hipocrates

or some day u will preach like osama bin ladin allah, jihad

important thing is none of us has seen God coz u do not live after seing thee not even moses was able to see God all he could see was a bush burning and the cloud that followed the tent

so death is a fact and no one knows what happens after death it is only a belief

some religion follow rebirth

christians follow eternal life

so what is eternal life

any comments

seraphine_fernandes@yahoo.co.in


manola flora 5 years ago

iamrey, keep going on the Wednesday may God touch you in a special way, she's not doing the right thing by you, and no one should have told her not to be friends with catholics or any other. I am friends with all sorts of people even people that don't believe in God, otherwise how are we going to show them that we have a loving living God! I hope she comes to her senses, and I'm so happy that you still keep going to her church, she should be encouraging you not ignoring you. But then maybe as you said she has been hurt before and may be afraid of repeating the same mistake. Just hang in there, give God your problem, He's the only one that can help you solve it and guide you in the right direction. God bless you!


Seifer Blake Cenon 5 years ago

I recently turned to Born-Again because I believe that Born-Again Christians follow the Bible exactly, no more and no less, and believe in Jesus completely. My previous religion, which I have nothing against, the Roman Catholic way in my opinion added some unnecessary extra information about the Bible and also some prayers like "Hail Mary" and "Hail Holy Queen" and concepts like "Saints."

What I'm saying is you choose what you think is best for you. I chose the Born-Again way because I'm sure it will bring me closer to Jesus Christ and Lord God. It's your choice. Peace.


Jezel 5 years ago

Hi Manola, I was converted from Roman Catholic to Born Again Christian a month ago at exactly on my Birthday without the permission of my family (I already asked them before but they disagreed.)But before that I already started reading the bible, I asked God to guide me cause I know I'm just newbie that He would allow his Holy Spirit to enlighten my mind in God's Teaching. It so happen that my housemate was a born again Christian. She always told me everything about she learned about God's Teaching, and helped me to understand some verses which its hard to me. I was really amazed of what's the differences between Roman Catholic way of Teaching and Born Again. I am really a religious person since I was a kid, I always rely on Jesus Christ.He is very great to me. He always gave me blessings more than I could imagine! I love Jesus. I seek to be nearer to him, so my friend invited me to attend their service, I was really amazed on how they praise and worship God, it really touch my heart, it made me cry and thought of my sins..i felt "I have done." and after that I always go there every Sunday and it makes me feel that I begun to be nearer to Jesus. I always ask Him go guide me in everything I do, I know He did this into my life for the best purpose. THen I finally told my family that i already converted, they were angry to me that they could abandon me. My mom keeps on crying and told me "what happened to me? what evil spirits took me there?" and keep on blaming my housemate. My older sister also keeping on saying that I'm crazy, Im daughter of Satan, im nothing, Im disgrace to the family, Im have no shame every thing bad on earth she would use to can described me, sometimes I she will tell me that all Born Again must die and to go hell. There's nothing I can do to defend my faith to Jesus,all I can do is to cry yet I just very young Im only 19 years old and all of them(family) is against my decision, But I know God is above all else. He is the way the truth and our Life. I also read in the bible that your own family will be your greatest enemy. its really really true. but i never treat them as an enemy. I know that their hearts and minds are not yet open. All I could do now is to pray for them, that God will enlighten them.

It really changed my whole life. Im happier now. I can face problem bravely cause i know God is with me. I always pray, I no longer drinking liquor, go to disco and bar hopping and other unhealthy way of living.

THanks God, He chose me!


Jezel 5 years ago

Hi Manola, I was converted from Roman Catholic to Born Again Christian a month ago at exactly on my Birthday without the permission of my family (I already asked them before but they disagreed.)But before that I already started reading the bible, I asked God to guide me cause I know I'm just newbie that He would allow his Holy Spirit to enlighten my mind in God's Teaching. It so happen that my housemate was a born again Christian. She always told me everything about she learned about God's Teaching, and helped me to understand some verses which its hard to me. I was really amazed of what's the differences between Roman Catholic way of Teaching and Born Again. I am really a religious person since I was a kid, I always rely on Jesus Christ.He is very great to me. He always gave me blessings more than I could imagine! I love Jesus. I seek to be nearer to him, so my friend invited me to attend their service, I was really amazed on how they praise and worship God, it really touch my heart, it made me cry and thought of my sins..i felt "I have done." and after that I always go there every Sunday and it makes me feel that I begun to be nearer to Jesus. I always ask Him go guide me in everything I do, I know He did this into my life for the best purpose. THen I finally told my family that i already converted, they were angry to me that they could abandon me. My mom keeps on crying and told me "what happened to me? what evil spirits took me there?" and keep on blaming my housemate. My older sister also keeping on saying that I'm crazy, Im daughter of Satan, im nothing, Im disgrace to the family, Im have no shame every thing bad on earth she would use to can described me, sometimes I she will tell me that all Born Again must die and to go hell. There's nothing I can do to defend my faith to Jesus,all I can do is to cry yet I just very young Im only 19 years old and all of them(family) is against my decision, But I know God is above all else. He is the way the truth and our Life. I also read in the bible that your own family will be your greatest enemy. its really really true. but i never treat them as an enemy. I know that their hearts and minds are not yet open. All I could do now is to pray for them, that God will enlighten them.

It really changed my whole life. Im happier now. I can face problem bravely cause i know God is with me. I always pray, I no longer drinking liquor, go to disco and bar hopping and other unhealthy way of living.

THanks God, He chose me!


manola flora 5 years ago

Jezel, that's really good to hear what you have shared with us all. Unfortunately family members can turn nasty but it's ok, my nephew has the same problem with his wife's family, they get blamed for everything because they are born again but God is really blessing them and even though it hurts to have family members against you, still go forward with your faith, because our Father God is a great God and worthy to be praised and you will be rewarded greatly. Just keep praying for your family don't get angry, but just love them and they will surely see the goodness in you and let your light shine, especially where there is darkness. Obviously their eyes are still not opened and only the Holy Spirit can do that, God has been good to you and I and many others to have chosen us, but He doesn't want anyone to perish, so keep on praying for their eyes to be opened just like ours were. I also used to also love Jesus as a child, so He's never let go, even the many times I was led astray. But now I will never let Him go, why would I anyway, He's my joy, my life and my everything, He's turned my sorrow into joy, and His blessings are never ending. A lot of my family members think we've all gone crazy to follow our faith, but we're having the best time of our life especially with all our church family members. We can talk all in one accord but with them just the mention of the name of Jesus......they turn really nasty, and I can easily get so passionate talking about Him but they get even angrier and it turns to worse. But I guess that's what we sometimes have to put up with, persecution, just like Jesus, He just came to heal, love and show the way to salvation but He was always persecuted until death. Well I've died with Him and I've been raised to a new life until that sweet day when we are with Him and let's hope and pray most or all of our family members will be with us, don't want them to miss out, but they can't say we didn't tell them. I have become very open with people, especially where I work I have the opportunity to talk to a lot of people who are not well, I'm not there by coincidence, If we are available He will lead us where He wants so we can be used for His work. We are His Hands and Feet, His mouth, so let's get going and do what He commanded us to do, it is a 'great commission', no need to push, just shine your light, His light within us! God bless you, you are still young and God will use you greatly! :)


Daniel 5 years ago

to iamrey:

I wanted to encourage you to hang in there. I believe it is better to let GOD resolve this issue, and then for the both of you to see an eternal victory in this matter, before going on with a Permenent, till death do you part, relationship.


james 5 years ago

theseare truly amazing stories..

to lamrey: you're on the right path so be strong and keep going..i too is facing too many struggles but i knew that in GODs perfect time,he will let me out of this situation..

to jezel,manola is really right,true christians will be persecuted as christ himself was persecuted so take up your cross and be ready to be persecuted because thats part of true christianity,be strong and never ever get discouraged,don't ever let go of your faith because christ is bigger than whatever challenges we might be facing right now..keep in mind that it is better to persecuted than to loss your salvation..peoples impression of us cant bring salvation..only our faith to christ can bring us hope and new life..so just keep on going and show to your family the real meaning of being a born again..show to them that your a changed person..show to them that you re not possessed rather you are christ spirit filled..just keep on communicating with us here..manola can help you more as she experience almost all kinds of persecutions as a christian yet she remain strong and steadfast with her faith


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Jezelangel 5 years ago from Cebu City, Philippines

to James:

thanks for your uplifting words..this site really helps me a lot. God is great that He led me here. He is above everything. I realized that we are temporary in this earth and what matters most is the day that we will face God. I will continue to pray for my family that they will open their hearts and mind to truth. Nothing is impossible in God. Keep inspiring others!

God bless you!


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Jezelangel 5 years ago from Cebu City, Philippines

to Manola:

Thank you so much for your response and sharing your knowledge with me. I will stand on my what I believe in. I decided to follow Jesus as my Saviour. I love him so much! But there's one thing, I lived here in the city alone to pursue my studies and my family is living in my province, whenever I go there, they forced me to do catholic traditions such worshiping idols/statues, making the sign of the cross and making long prayers. I dont really want to do these things cause I know that it is not written on the bible. I need your advise to this!

THank you so much Manola. God always bless us!

Keep touching lives!


iamrey 5 years ago

to Daniel & James:

"I wanted to encourage you to hang in there. I believe it is better to let GOD resolve this issue, and then for the both of you to see an eternal victory in this matter, before going on with a Permanent, till death do you part, relationship."

"you're on the right path so be strong and keep going..i too is facing too many struggles but i knew that in GOD's perfect time,he will let me out of this situation.."

I think I'll just leave all my worries to God, I think I've done my part, I give up. And I am so tired, and hatred is all over me. I do not know what to do right now.

GOD I'M SO TIRED, PLEASE DON'T LET HATRED DEVOUR MY HEART. I REALLY HATE WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME RIGHT NOW.

To Manola,

hey, I attended last Wednesday, guess what she's still avoiding me. To tell you honestly I am starting to hate her. After all I've done to her she's behaving like that, God bless her. I don't know if she's just testing me or just lost her feelings. But to act like that is just so not normal. I do not know what values she has or how she was put up by her parents.

I just hate it, this was my first time to enter a relationship and this is what I got. LIFE IS SO UNFAIR.

Sorry for all the burst of unnecessary stories, it's just what I feel and I have to let it out. I can't see God right now, I've been praying and seems that my prayers are not heard. And sometimes it also crossed to my mind if there is really a God who listens to our prayers. I am so broken, my faith is shaken by what is happening lately.

I surrender, I give up. I'll just pray and keep on going there every Wednesday. I will just wait for God's move, nothing is impossible...

btw, thank you for all the replies!


iamrey 5 years ago

to Daniel & James:

"I wanted to encourage you to hang in there. I believe it is better to let GOD resolve this issue, and then for the both of you to see an eternal victory in this matter, before going on with a Permanent, till death do you part, relationship."

"you're on the right path so be strong and keep going..i too is facing too many struggles but i knew that in GOD's perfect time,he will let me out of this situation.."

I think I'll just leave all my worries to God, I think I've done my part, I give up. And I am so tired, and hatred is all over me. I do not know what to do right now.

GOD I'M SO TIRED, PLEASE DON'T LET HATRED DEVOUR MY HEART. I REALLY HATE WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME RIGHT NOW.

To Manola,

hey, I attended last Wednesday, guess what she's still avoiding me. To tell you honestly I am starting to hate her. After all I've done to her she's behaving like that, God bless her. I don't know if she's just testing me or just lost her feelings. But to act like that is just so not normal. I do not know what values she has or how she was put up by her parents.

I just hate it, this was my first time to enter a relationship and this is what I got. LIFE IS SO UNFAIR.

Sorry for all the burst of unnecessary stories, it's just what I feel and I have to let it out. I can't see God right now, I've been praying and seems that my prayers are not heard. And sometimes it also crossed to my mind if there is really a God who listens to our prayers. I am so broken, my faith is shaken by what is happening lately.

I surrender, I give up. I'll just pray and keep on going there every Wednesday. I will just wait for God's move, nothing is impossible...

btw, thank you for all the replies!


james 5 years ago

to jesel..

i know how hard it is for you..we are in this world where trials and sacrifices take the best of us..i too have a rough times most of the time but im just on holding on and hoping that someday ill surpass all my struggles..just share the love of GOD to your family..it might take a long time or it may test your faith to the extreme level but never ever give up what you have right now..it is better to be hated by the world than to loss GOD in your life because GOD is infinitely bigger that this world,the world will only bring damnation but christ will bring us salvation so never ever let go of it..

to lamrey:

i know how hard it is for you..but you must learn to sacrifice,you have to put it in your heart that themain reason why your attending the wednesday serrvice is to worship GOD pursuing your love for that woman is only secondary..love GOD above all things first..i understand that you love that woman so much but you need to love GOD more than her...you are in a rough situation and i undesrtand you but just keep on going and learn to forgive..im having a hard time forgiving myself and forgiving others but at the end of the day,we cant say we are true christians if we keep some dark spots in our heart and mind..she was testing you because she might think that the reason wy your going to church is because of her and that you inly want to impress her...why not try to attend a service other than wednesday..maybe she'll realize that you're really serious in pursuing GOD on your life..just a suggestion though,do whats best for you without compromising your faith..


iamrey 5 years ago

to James:

I already thought of going to their church on Sundays, but it is family day for us. It is the only day for our family to be complete and be together so I do not want to miss that. But if there's a chance, without any hesitation I'll attend there on Sundays. It seems that Wednesdays are not enough for me, I'm enjoying it already.

I've been weaken by these events, I agree on what you have said "...we cant say we are true Christians if we keep some dark spots in our heart and mind..." I am praying for this right now. God can see our faith in Him, nothing is impossible. For now I won't do any efforts for her, just focus on God. No matter what happen I'll just stick on that plan and don't get affected by her.

Thank you for your time! I'll be around for updates :) God bless!


iamrey 5 years ago

to Jezel:

I admire your faith and love to God. Just follow what you love to do. I am currently facing that same situation right now, I am afraid of my family. Everything will change if I converted to Born Again. For now I lift my worries to God and attend Wednesday service. Time will pass and I pray that my family will be enlightened and accept me for what decisions I may do.

For your family just tell them that you are not going anywhere, you'll just going to be closer to God. And keep doing good things to them and let them see what a real Christian is.

Just always remember that God is with us there is nothing to worry about.

"In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted" - 2 Timothy 3:12

"Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." - Matt 5:10-12

I'll pray for your family, I hope everything will be just fine. Godbless.


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Jezelangel 5 years ago from Cebu City, Philippines

to iamrey:

thanks for that.Its true that it really hard when it comes to family matters cause they been with us since we were born., but for me I am not here if God never allowed me to exist in this earth. I will continue to pray for my family that's all I can for now since Im still young and there's still a lots of things that I need to know , but is most important now is that Im closer to God and feeling of being with Him is priceless, the comfort is quite different(I know you feel that).I already told that to my family that Im not doing bad things but they insisted that I can good things even if Im catholic, I told them the difference based on what I read on the bible, but there's no effect. In our situation now, all I can advise to you is that hold on your faith, stay on what you believed and seek the kingdom of God and all things will be added unto you cause nothing is impossible with him. About the girl, just pray for her also,let HIs will be done, lets hope everything will be fine. things always happen with a purpose.

I'll also pray for your family.! Jesus Bless you!


Miguel 5 years ago

@Duane *tut* IDIOT


iamrey 5 years ago

it's my first Sunday service, it was fun

I woke up early and fix myself I didn't event bother to ask for my parents permission hehe. I am just sharing that it was a great experience and a bit different on Wednesday service; it's livelier.

for the girl she was there, and i just say hi then leave.

God is good. Godbless us all


manola flora 5 years ago

Happy for you iamrey :) God bless you and yes He is good!


St. James 4 years ago

A religion that is pure and stainless according to God the Father is this: to take care of orphans and widows who are suffering, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

Our true religion is equal to the measure in which these things have place in our hearts and conduct. And let us remember, that nothing avails in Christ Jesus, but faith that worketh by love, purifies the heart, subdues carnal lusts, and obeys God's commands.

This is how GOD challenge every human being, with or without our religion we will all be judged. Sooon...!


kikx101 4 years ago

im a catholic before.....but now im proud to say i am born again christian.......peace to all Catholics !


Believer 4 years ago

I am catholic, i grew up on a catholic school and graduated in a catholic university. My faith to christ is solid. i dont pray the rosary and i dont confess to a priest. I dont worship mary, but i respect her. Jesus loves her so much so why shouldnt we. I talk to God everyday by prayer, not the lord's prayer and hail mary(hail mary- this prayer is always misunderstood by many because of the second verse, "Holy mary mother of God", which they say mary is not the mother of God, but they believe jesus christ was God. The prayer doesnt say that mary is a Goddess, She is the mother of christ and jesus christ is a God). lastly, I dont worship idols(catholics are not idol worshipers. you can only distinguish an idol worshiper by looking on his/her faith and not the way he/she prays. Catholics out there, do you pray to statues? :P). Anyway, you dont have to convert, stay to the catholic church and get in touch with the lord everyday. Being a catholic is being a christian, you dont have to pray the lord's prayer and hail mary for you to become a catholic. Just always accept God in your heart and pray to him in your own words. If you are really confused, think about this: if you convert to B.A. does this mean God is not present in the catholic faith? is he not present on the catholic church? is he abandoning the millions of people who are catholics? is Christ only present in B.A. ? Only B.A. members are going to be saved? well, if you think like this then God is not so great after all. God's greatness is universal and HE is everywhere. Just believe in him. It doesnt matter what your religion is. All of us will go to heaven.

*"Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory"*

*"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven*

these are my favorite church songs. just sharing with you guys :)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9-FlrMTLn8

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IKDOxrdnu8

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLn0cRl-0GE


GR 4 years ago

Hi

Were you able to find a born again church in oslo that you are happy with?


Samuel Sanjeev 4 years ago

Hi Everyone,

I am a believer of jesus christ and his teachings. I do not believe blindly what even my pastor says to edify me in church because i have the bible as a reference. So there are many false prophets out there waiting to eat you up! but i tell all you born again christians and catholics to read the bible its the only truth that will set you free.

Moreover thr argument about Mother Mary! catholics think we born agains disrespect mary but we honour her and respect her and love her just like jesus did.

But i am not going to take any VERSES FROM THE BIBLE TO TELL YOU NOT TO INTERCEDE TO MOTHER MARY THOUGH IT IS CLEARLY MENTIONED AT VARIOUS PLACES IN THE BIBLE.

I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE PRACTICAL THINKING AS A HUMAN.

NOW WHAT HAPPENS TO A PERSON ONCE HE IS DEAD I AM NOT ENTIRELY SURE! BUT I BELIEVE IT IS MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE SOMEWHERE. WHETHER MARY IS IN HEAVEN OR IN PARADISE I AM NOT SURE BUT THIS PRACTICAL APPLICATION WORKS WITH BOTH HEAVEN OR PARADISE.

NOW I HOPE ALL THE CHRISTIANS *CATHOLICS BORN AGAINS AND OTHER SECT* BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS OMNIPOTENT, OMNINISIENT, AND OMNIPRESENT.

THERE IS NO ONE ELSE WHO CLAIMS THIS. NOT MARY NOT THE SAINTS NOR ANYONE ELSE ON THIS EARTH EXCEPT THE HOLY TRINITY THE FATHER THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.

PRACTICALLY THINKING AT THIS VERY SECOND THEY MAY BE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ASKING MARY TO INTERCEDE FOR THEM.

NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! IS MARY OMNIPOTENT OMNINISIENT OR OMNIPRESENT TO HEAR ALL THESE PRAYERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD?? IF YOU SAY YES YOU ARE SAYING SHES GOD!!! BUT SHE IS A SERVANT OF GOD JUST LIKE YOU AND ME..

ALL THE CATHOLICS ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION PRACTICALLY AND YOU WILL FIND MORE ANSWERS TO ALL YOUR DOUBTS IN THE BIBLE.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

AMEN


yeah 4 years ago

"...if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ." Galatians 1:9-10


james 4 years ago

this is very enlightening samuel....."NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! IS MARY OMNIPOTENT OMNINISIENT OR OMNIPRESENT TO HEAR ALL THESE PRAYERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD?? IF YOU SAY YES YOU ARE SAYING SHES GOD!!! BUT SHE IS A SERVANT OF GOD JUST LIKE YOU AND ME.."

i hope this answere the quesiton for people who keeps on making marry as a mediator between GOD and human,thanx it helps a lot


akosi_edgar@yahoo.com 4 years ago

bible is our weapon


akosi_edgar@yahoo.com 4 years ago

bible is our weapon


KurtRama 4 years ago

Good day!

I stumbled upon this forum as I was browsing the net for forums between Catholics and Born Again Christians.

First and foremost, I am a Catholic.

Second, I`ve always maintained the maxims "respect one another" and "to each his/her own."

Therfore, I must say that this Catholicism vs Born-Again debate is pointless to begin with, as both are correct in their own respective ways.

I think most people here have already pointed out the obvious: to have a personal relationship with God is the most important of all. However, we best exemplify how Good our relationship with Christ is through the way we live our lives everday. One of the proper ways to do that is to respect another person`s belief, whether it conforms with you or not. Every person is basically good, after all.

Just as a math problem can have MANY solutions, so does our journey to God present different ways and routes. You get the drift, dont you?

So, whatever faith/religion you belong to, as long as it brings you closer to God, and brings out the best in you and other people as well, there is no problem at all.

Peace be with you, Catholics and Born Agains alike. =)


Ronald Hennessy, Philippines 4 years ago

I've been studying Philosophy, History, Literature and Theology for a time and this is what I can say:

This is the problem nowadays, people tend to read the Bible and translate the messages literally. Reading the Bible does not only require reading on the line, between the lines and beyond the lines. It must be a combination of all three of them.

In the case of Mary, we, Catholics, do not worship and adore her like what other people say but we are making her as a model to follow. She is the mother of Jesus, she has accepted that heavy task with a very willing heart. Shouldn't it be done that we, Christians, follow like what she did? Another point; Mary, as the mother of God, serves as the mediator between the people and Jesus. Isn't it evident in the Bible when Jesus entrusted Mary to His apostle John? It is a symbol which means that Jesus is also giving His mother to us, to give us motherly comfort. All of us are very attached to our mothers, and Jesus, who is man and Divine at the same time, feel like what we feel toward our mothers. We talk to our mothers telling her our insights so Mary, as our mother, also listens to us.

Never question the credibility of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church has been here for many centuries and has provided the world with many contributions in all aspects of life. NO ONE CAN DENY THAT. The Catholic Church has contributed many things in world peace (as Pope Paul VI called on social justice during the 2nd Vatican Council) and the formation of the United Nations (UN).

Yes there are cases of abuse in the Church but DON'T SAY THAT ALL OF THE PRIESTS ARE LIKE THAT. They are just people and they also commit sin. We are all sinners so who are we to rebuke someone as sinner. The most Christian way to do is to pray for the clergy for them to be firm in their call.


Ronald Hennessy, Philippines 4 years ago

Another thing, people who belong to non-Catholic Christian communities always say that some Catholic practices are not found the Bible. Let me ask you, HOW WELL DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE?

For those who do not know, let me tell you this: Priests study for their Theological formation for 10 long years and they do not stop there.

Another problem about people is that they do not seek for their faith. Catholics who tend to have themselves converted say that they have found the true way. Have they given enough time to know the Catholic faith? People do not give much time to know their faith and often times it ends into fanaticism or blind faith that saddens the Church.

I have nothing against other beliefs, I am here just to defend the Catholic faith as long as I can and to tell people how true the Catholic teachings are.

Why don't you do what I have suggested? To know the Catholic faith more and better before taking other steps.


Redeemed, philippines 4 years ago

Be righteous not religious, it is not religion who can get us to heaven, but it is our righteousness THROUGH JESUS CHRIST who died for us, and gave himself freely as a free gift for us to recieve eternal life. most importantly, develop your personal relationship with God by reading His word, our roadmap to heaven, and in prayers. It's the Holy Spirit who will teach us in all things concerning these matters.

And above all, there is no other name given under heaven whom man shall be saved, only the name of Jesus. . . Jesus is the only way, the truth and life, no one comes to the Father but by Him.

Galatians 1:9

As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

God bless us all. . .


manola flora 4 years ago

PLEASE READ LUKE 4.18. JESUS WAS ANOINTED TO PREACH THE GOOD NEWS AND TO SET THE CAPTIVES FREE....................AND READ ON.........

JESUS DIN'T LIKE RELIGION, HE CAME TO SET US FREE FROM BONDAGE. GET RID OF YOUR RELIGION AND BE FREE FROM BONDAGE PLEASE. WHEN HE COMES AGAIN HE WILL NOT ASK YOU IF YOU ARE A CATHOLIC OR WHATEVER, HE WILL ASK YOU DO YOU KNOW ME? IF YOU DO JUST FOLLOW HIM AND PREACH THE GOOD NEWS TO THE LOST AND SET THEM FREE. WHOM THE SON SETS FREE IS FREE INDEED. THANK YOU GOD FOR YOUR WONDERFUL FREEDOM, THERE IS NO ONE LIKE YOU AND I THANK YOU FOR SETTING ME FREE TO BE WHO YOU WANT ME TO BE. THERE ARE SIMPLY NO EXCUSES ABOUT WHO STUDIED WHAT OR WHERE, IN THE BIBLE, IT DOES SAY THAT JESUS WAS THE LAST HIGH PRIEST, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.


KurtRama 4 years ago

"Catholics who tend to have themselves converted say that they have found the true way. Have they given enough time to know the Catholic faith?" - from Mr. Ronald Hennessy of Philippines

- I wholly agree with you on this sir.

I think there is really no problem in people having a diverse set of beliefs. But when some people insist, whether implicitly or explicitly, that their belief is the "correct one", that's where religious conflicts arise.

That being said, I think it would be just better if we stick to our own beliefs, and respect the faith of others. Muslims, Buddhists, Hinduists believe in different things, but it does not mean that they cannot be capable of being good, even great people.

Lastly, a little off topic, if you'd ask me why I do good things, it's because i wanted to do good, nothing more, nothing less. I won't do good things just because I want to go to heaven. That's like expecting something in return. And for me, that's kinda hypocritical.

Good day!


ilyas katolino 4 years ago

i'm a roman catholic, my girlfriend is a born again christian, before... we've always fought about belief, her parents were always preaching me about "salvation" and stuff like "Jesus is the only way". the thing is, we're all christians here (atleast up to my knowledge that is seen to my birth certificate that i am a roman catholic). though, i do not really believe what is in the bible, torah, mahabharta, quran or any text that came from man that they say that came from the word of God. i believe in God, Yes. i respect all belief. and if anybody would say that they will pray for me so that God will show me the right way, Nay i say. and that will be the time i shall claim to say that they are wrong, because God showed me my way. i don't have any theological proof, but what is in my heart is that i will do good (at least up to my knowledge) to everyone. and if i die, i don't care if i go to what we know as heaven or hell or paradise or oblivion or whatever. i would only care about those people that still lives that i've helped or not. that i loved or hated in some point of time. to die knowing that they will be okay in the future. that is what i really believed in. as of today, my girlfriend and i are both having a harmonious relationship. we don't fight anymore about faith, well atleast. i love her, and i don't care who or what she is. love is the strongest force God had given us. yet it is the humblest kind. thank you.

god bless us all.


manola flora 4 years ago

BEING GOOD DOESN'T AND WILL NOT GET YOU TO HEAVEN, THAT'S RELIGION. WE AREN'T GOOD WE FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. IT'S ONLY BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS THAT WE ARE MADE WORTHY TO GO TO HEAVEN, WE HAVE TO DIE TO OURSELVES(BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOOD)AND LIVE AS CHRIST DID.

ILYAS, BELIEVE ME YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO TO HELL! YOU CALL YOURSELF A CATHOLIC BUT DON'T BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE THAT WAS GOD-BREATHED! SO DON'T CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN, BUT YOUR OWN BELIEF, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK, EVERYBODY HAS SOME SORT OF FAITH TO BELIEVE IN SOMEONE BIGGER THAN YOURSELF, DO YOU EVER ASK YOURSELF WHO CREATED HEAVEN AND EARTH AND IF AS YOU SAY GOD SHOWED YOU THE WAY, HE CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE SHOWN YOU THE RIGHT WAY, THAT HIS WORD (THE BIBLE) IS HIS LIVING WORD. ALSO FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE HELPED IF YOU KNEW WHERE YOU WERE GOING YOU WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY DIE EVENTUALLY THEY WOULD DEFINITELY GO TO HEAVEN TOO, THEY DON'T HAVE A FUTURE HERE BECAUSE THEY WILL DIE BUT HEAVEN IS FOR ETERNITY SO THAT SHOULD MAKE YOU HAPPY AND SECURE. IF YOU KNEW GOD HE WOULD BE MORE INTERESTED IN LIFE AFTER YOU DIE THAN THE SHORT LIFE HERE ON EARTH. YOU ALSO SAY 'PEOPLE THAT I LOVED OR HATED', GOD IS LOVE SO WHERE DOES YOUR HATE COME FROM IF YOU KNOW HIM AND HE HAS SHOWED YOU THE WAY?

P.S. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, NO ONE ELSE NOW OR EVERMORE!!


ilyas katolino 4 years ago

manola flora, like i said, i was only born a catholic, i didn't say i loved being a catholic nor i said i hated it, about the word of God, the bible... then how would you explain the other books, that say they are words of God also?those books conflicts the ideals or teachings of the bible... and are we on the same page? like i said, i don't give much about going anywhere when i do good,... i will never seek anything in exchange,... we only have one God, but different perceptions,.. please hear me out, you are arguing about only one single entity "Christianity", yet it is only a small part of everything... and please do not tell me you are not fighting over the differences of catholics and born agains, you know what you are doing,... yet there is nothing to argue about,... its like asking to a class how can they explain that the chair in front of them is invisible... if you're going to ask me? yes i do believe in heaven, but my heaven is different to what you think it is... my heaven is in the hearts of everyone who loves me,... // but if im gonna be contradictory, i can say filipinos were once a sacred race, yes they have different deities, but before, they never argued about it... it might be true that Jesus saved those people in Jerusalem a couple of thousand years back, it also might be true that he is the one true son of God, but considering other people,,,, where do they stand? how would other people feel about that? how would other races live through like that... do you know where will it end up? WAR ... i am not just telling this to christianity, but to all other religions around the world, young and old, there is only one God, and God created the whole universe ... and be good (in layman's terms) because God wanted us to take care of the things that he made... maybe those three things that i've said above has no conflicts to other beliefs,... that is how simple everything is...


manola flora 4 years ago

ONE DAY EVERY KNEE WILL BOW AND EVERY TONGUE CONFESS THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, THAT IS IN THE BIBLE, THERE ARE ALWAYS BEEN IDOLS MADE OF WOOD AND GOLD AND SO FORTH, FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME, BUT THEY ARE MADE OF WOOD AND STONE THE ONLY LIVING ONE IS THE ONE TRUE GOD. JESUS SAID 'I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE'. BUT OF COURSE IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN HIS WORD, YOU WILL NEVER BELIEVE IT. THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN FEEL HIM AND HEAR HIM IS FOR YOU TO OPEN YOUR HEART, BUT MANY HEARTS ARE COLD AND WILL NEVER EXPERIENCE THE LOVE OF GOD, HIS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, HE LOVES EVERYBODY, HE IS NO RESPECTOR OF PERSONS. HE WANTS ALL TO BE SAVED BUT YET HE DESIRES US TO ACKNOLEDGE HIM AND PUT HIM FIRST. ILYAS YOU SAY YOU DON'T CARE MUCH WHERE YOU GO BUT DO GOOD WANT NOTHING IN EXCHANGE, WELL WE ARE MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE RIGHT, WE WERE MADE TO WORSHIP HIM AND WHEN HE MADE THIS BEAUTIFUL INCREDIBLE EARTH WE WERE SUPPOSED TO LIVE FOREVER ALL IN HARMONY, AND BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE LIKE GOD WE SINNED, WE ALL HAVE AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW THE LONG STORY, SO WHEN JESUS DIED AND ROSE AGAIN HE THEN WENT TO HEAVEN SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER, HE SAID THAT HE WAS GOING TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR US, SO THAT WHERE HE IS WE WILL BE ALSO WITH HIM FOR ETERNITY (i'm trying to make it simple for you, cutting a long story short). IT'S NO USE SAYING OR BELIEVING THAT ALL ROADS OR ALL RELIGIONS LEAD TO HEAVEN, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY HIS NAME IS JESUS. ALSO YOU SAY THAT GOD WANTED US TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS THAT HE MADE, WELL, WE REALLY HAVEN'T DONE A GOOD JOB, HAVE WE? MARANATHA, JESUS COME SOON PLEASE! SHOW US YOUR GLORY AND ALL WILL SEE THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUE GOD WHO SENT HIS SON TO DIE FOR US TO TAKE ALL THE PUNISHMENT UPON HIM FOR OUR SAKE, HOW BLESSED ARE WE, IT'S SO EASY TO EARN SALVATION, IF YOU KNOW JESUS, YOU CAN'T HELP BUT BE GOOD!


ilyas katolino 4 years ago

manola flora, well actually, i believe in God, the almighty who created everything, and basically i'm not cold hearted, my heart is always open to everything yet contented. and i believe we are all sons and daughters of God. people tend to seek salvation. to seek sanctuary. my God is also your God, and also their God, there is no "other God"... there maybe high personas next to God in what we know as heaven but mainly, God is the only one. you say Jesus is the only way, the Jew said Abraham is... the Muslim said Mohammed is... the Hindi said Siddhartha is... all these man made books, that they say God has breathed out of them, seriously, this made division to people around the world... religion will be the source of our end... and that is so true... BUT ... for what i also believe in is that instead of waiting for Jesus or anyone from heaven to go down here on earth to pass judgement on us... i'd rather wait for that almost impossible day that all people will open their eyes and see that there is still hope, there is still life, set aside those books, be contented, do not hurt anyone verbally or physically, do not hurt yourself, that's all... and see to it that we worship and love one God, for peace,... so even if the day of end comes, we are prepared, i know God will always be forgiving. we do not just sit and stare at the heavens... we fight to survive, because that is what is meant to be... God forgives, we do something about it, that is how simple it is,... yet we tend to make it complicated PERIOD!!! mea ultimum testimonium


manola flora 4 years ago

ALL THAT YOU WISH FOR ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN, THIS WORLD WILL NEVER HAVE PEACE, IT'S ONLY WHEN THE PRINCE OF PEACE COMES BUT IT WILL BE TOO LATE FOR SOME. IT THIS IS YOUR ULTIMATE TESTIMONY SO BE IT! IT'S NOT COMPLICATED AT ALL IT'S THE EASIEST THING OF ALL JUST GIVE HIM YOUR HEART THEN YOUR CONFUSION WILL GO AND HE'LL GIVE YOU HIS PEACE THAT PASSESS ALL UNDERSTANDING!


iamrey 4 years ago

stop arguing about this. just pray for wisdom and respect each other. Godbless to all.


manola flora 4 years ago

NOT ARGUING, JUST SHARING. :)

JOHN 3:16,17 "FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONE AND ONLY SON, THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM SHALL NOT PERISH BUT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. FOR GOD DID NOT SEND HIS SON INTO THE WORLD TO CONDEMN THE WORLD, BUT TO SAVE THE WORLD THROUGH HIM"


iamrey 4 years ago

oh I see. sup manola, I haven't seen you around here lately. Hope your doing good :)


manola flora 4 years ago

Hey Jamrey, I'm well, how are you doing, life is very busy around here!! How have you been?


james 4 years ago

i could hardly believe people still keeps on fighting for their religions..i mean,it's ironic to see that most people rely on their own interpretations of salvation without really reading what the bible says...again being good and being helpful are always their basis to go to heaven in which im afraid to hear but totally wrong if you based it biblically..no person in this world could save his soul..we need jesus who died for our sins and redeemed us,we cant take that credit away from him otherwise our self beliefs and interpretation will end up to irreversible distractions!come to think of it...if we are capable of saving ourselves,then what the purpose of christ dying on the cross?and that is the reason to call him a savior if we are capable of saving ourselves?

we do respect everyones beliefs,but we need to enligthen everyone as well and based everything in the word of GOD..because we cant tell GOD to respect our own belief and just accept us in his kingdom whatever beliefs we might have...GOD didnt tell us to create our own beliefs,he told us to follow him thru his words because that is were the real light and salvation comes from..we simply cant dictate GOD to accept our our own excuses if we face him..we only have one savior so pls i stop fighting or dying for you religions,it can never save you..follow and jesus and you will find priceless joy salvation.


james 4 years ago

we have only one GOD,therefore we must have only one to follow..people create their own religions that deviates to the real teaching of the bible..religon if im not mistaken wasnt mentioned in the bible,there are millions of religions in this world already who have their own traditions to follow..yet GOD had given us his word thru the bible only,he transformed his words into flesh(the bible) so that we wont be decieved yet many people see the values of religion way bigger than GODs own words..we cant serve different masters at the same time..its easy to call ourselves a christian yet GOD sees each and everyone of us..he knows who are his people who diligently seek and follow him and he knows who got deceived by the foolishness of this world.


manola flora 4 years ago

THANK YOU JAMES, GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS!!!!


james 4 years ago

i meant come to think of it...if we are capable of saving ourselves,then what the purpose of christ dying on the cross?and what is the reason to call him a savior if we are capable of saving ourselves?

thanks alos manola for standing still and being bold with your faith,thanks for the enligthenment that youre sharing here,youre also an inspiration for those christians like who sometimes falters..because youre indescribable faith shows how GOD changed you...may GOD bless you more


iamrey 4 years ago

@manola

I'm fine too. Just embracing the life that God gave me, The girl and I didn't workout. I know God has a better plan for me. As of now, I'm planning to stop for a while on attending to their church(which is hard for me) but I want to give time for myself to heal the wounds. It's a pretty tough experience, knowing that this is my first time to experience this. But I have nothing to lose, all I have to do is trust God.

"Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding" -Proverbs 3:5

I know God is preparing something good for me, that's what I am excited about.


james 4 years ago

@lamrey:

are you a filipino bro?if so,then try attending victory christian fellowship (vcf). they are so active with their youth activities and cell groups..it will help you more...if only i were in the philippines,(right npw that i started to prioritize GOD in my life again )i would for sure go to any vcf churches... sadly im too far for now and i didnt have support group personally so its a constant struggle that im dealing with..just find another church and group that could help you:-)


manola flora 4 years ago

Jamrey, I'm very happy that you are trusting in the Lord and giving all your worries to Him. You trust in Him and He will make your paths straight. As you said, you have nothing to lose. He will reward you in due time, He definitely is preparing something very good for you so keep being excited and expecting, He always comes through, just keep your eyes fixed on Him and He will give you the desires of your heart! The blessings are yours! He loves you. He does have plans for your life, let him be the driver and lead the way for you!


iamrey 4 years ago

@james

yep, im a filipino. thanks for the advice :)

@manola

hey, thanks for the encouragements, i really need one now hehe.

As of now, i don't know if God is telling me something because i met an old friends of mine last weekend and they are both christian. They are attending at VCF which is only walking distance from my home, unlike the last church that i used to attend to is almost half an our travel.

From that simple encounter with them i realized God is telling me that "Hey tough child, move in to my other house; this one is closer." God is really doing his thing. i dont know what will this lead me to, but i should depend on God right now.


manola flora 4 years ago

Jamrey, Yes, He's really showing you the way, nothing happens by accident or coincidence, He knows where to lead and you need to be obedient and follow. His way is the best way and the right one. You are really getting it and that makes me very happy, imagine how happy you are making Him. You enjoy wherever He leads you and as James suggested the same church VCF where your friends go and you'll have fun and get closer to God your Heavenly Father who loves you very much! Keep smiling :)


james 4 years ago

@manola:thanx for your prayes and support,and needed it so badly,so i really appreciate it..

@lamrey:see,i was just suggesting you to go to vcf and GOD fulfilled those suggestions immidiately,so it mean GOD wants you to find ways to get close to him..so go ahead and give it a try..that vcf molded me to be true christian,unfortunately im in a situation right now where in theres no support group personally that could help me..but having friends here in the net helps a lot:-)


iamrey 4 years ago

thanks guys :)

@james:

bro just stay here and lets always keep in touch. :) whatever you are dealing with feel free to share it in here. God bless


aaron 4 years ago

i came to this site to get an understanding about being born again, it confuses me......and lets just say after reading 2 1/2 yrs of comments i'm even more confused.

I myself was raised roman catholic, i haven't been to church in some yrs now, don't plan on going either. myself i've live up too most streotypes of being "catholic", i've drank my face off for yrs,smoked lots of weed, all sorts of other drugs, cursed like a sailor, had meaningless sex with lots of drunken wenches "1:45pm" last ditch attempt at the bar like some bird of prey picking out the weak ones. "sepperating them from the herd" as I like to call it. HAHA....

I may have to answer to those things someday among the other horrible adventures i've had, but never have i wanted to confess for my actions. confession to me is false....i go in make the priest blush with horrible details of how i took a hethan home and made her say the lords name in vain. what,then he can tell me as long as i feel sorry about i'm forgiven? the way i see it is confession is a start you've come to terms with what you've done, doesn't forgive it. Then when your ready to change your ways lead through good action and heart felt words not just saying i'm a "christian or catholic" and i found God and the rest of you will burn in hell, no no no its not that easy. Mind you I try to lead a good life, give change from my pocket when i can spare it, always tip good at Tim Hortons when i get a coffee, try to throw at least a couple 5$ bills at the strippers, but then again i have licked my fair share of loonies...HAHA and well when it comes time for me to rest 6ft under and make my way to the "upper room" i realize i may not get a full access pass on account of trying to have sex and teach the angels of earthly sins....and trying to show the goody two shoe bible thumpers how to grow weed and brew shine, at best God might let me be some kind a bouncer keeping the liqour imps out of heaven and pointing out to saint nic all the crazy born agains who beat hookers and raped children....and worst comes to worst if i'm refused at the gates atlest they'll know me by name..."OHHH FUCK WE'VE HEARD ABOUT YOU!!!"

And now i'll leave with my favorite Hunter S. Thompson quote: "You'd better watch over me Lord down here, other wise you'll soon have me on your hands".

Now i must step into the wild's, just another God fearing creature.....

oh' cheers to both sides of the argument though, good stuff.....see you in the "upper room".


Anointed 4 years ago

Hazel Faith! You've got it! Go go go!!! spread the truth!


iamrey 4 years ago

@aaron

sup bro. good to see you here. I have to say that your experiences are too dark. But I'll say that a lot of people have been to your exact place. Just imagine the things that they did to surpass it. Just take a break on what you are doing right now and see all the people that supports you and may affect you as a person. You came across this page because of this thing called "Religion", regardless of what religion it is there's something that's in you that is seeking for spiritual nourishment. That's a good thing bro, event you have been into the darkest days of your life, still there's a hole of light passing through that darkness. Just let that light in, just pray and meet new people that can put meaning to your life. And most important is develop a personal relationship with God. He is always there trust me, any ups or lows in our lives he is always there watching us. Right now it's easy for me to say these things because I'm not on your situation but all you have to do is trust. Stop looking on the negative things that you have in your life and start admiring what God gave you.

And one thing about that upper room, we will all be on that so called "upper room" BUT before entering that room we should know to ourselves that we are prepared, we've done all the things that needed to be done and lastly the faith that we have should tell us that inside that room is our God.

by the way, read God's word they will lighten that heavy heart. :)

Surrender to God and Trust in Him. God bless!


noneofyourbusiness 4 years ago

religion is a tool of satan.. christian and religion are opposites.. catholics are not christians and destined for hell as that is invented by satan.. catholics reading this will not understand just like hindus or muslims dont understand.. only way is to get saved..


Josie 4 years ago

I don't see why people have to argue and quibble about names and traditions. I'm a nondenominational follower of Christ and that suits me just fine. The thing is not to quibble over specific traditions or names or petty things. Firstly a person must confess with his mouth and believe in his heart that Jesus Christ is Lord, he will be saved. Born Again Christians do believe in confession, be it to a pastor, minister, friend or whomever. You have to confess your sins to be forgiven. As long as a person reads and studies and comprehends the Bible as the Spirit-breathed word of God, prays to God in a sincere way, understands the duties of the faith and tries to follow them out, and does everything in a manner worthy of worship to God, he is saved. So in stead of arguing, why not examine your own personal walk with God?

And @noneofyourbusiness God created hell, not Satan. Satan is going to be punished in hell, just like everyone else who goes. You should read the book of Revelation(:


Julia 4 years ago

(so amazed with the comments here and blessed also.) I am so blessed we have the gospel. The good news that was brought to us in the midst of a bad news. You know what's the bad news is? We are dead. Apart from the gift of Christ, We are dead to sin. We cannot say I am good. Because we fall short from the standard of our Holy God. If any one broke one law in the commandments God gave to Moses, we already committed sin. And the wages of sin is death. How many of us know that when we kill one (only one) man we are already called a killer. Same with sin, Only one sin, we are already called a sinner. Our sin can never be paid by good works. You know what should be the wage of sin? It is said in Romans, For the wages of sin is death... I just don't mean physical death, I mean eternal death. And you know what's the good news, Our good Lord won't allow that. He won't allow sin to go unpunished so He sent His son to be punished for us. The shame that should be put to us! The nails! The emotional and Physical torture! Yes, Jesus may not do it, He can loose Himself at the cross..But He did not. How many of you can fill the pain when you could do but because of LOVE you just allowed everything to happen? This is the gift that unless it is accepted, it shall never be ours. God offered a relationship...No..not religion! Not tradition! but a relationship. It is being offered, are you going to accept it? Surrender to Jesus, accept that He is the only way to salvation (Not even our work or sacrifices, traditions) ...Only Jesus. If you want to hear messages about salvation: feel free to visit website victory.org.ph / victoryubelt.org / victorymalate.org ...they have an ongoing series called intrusion (Jesus was Here) and know that Jesus, in times of situations, He was there all along. Feel free also to email me at jmelbg@yahoo.com. I wanted to say Hello to some Filipino-es here.


Gerolami 4 years ago

It really is sad reading all the ignorance in your blog as well as the comments here. What's really sad is that being raised Catholic no one bothered to properly teach you what it means to be a Catholic.

I'm not about to lecture you here, if you truely seek the truth some authors to start with are G.K. Chesterton, Peter Kreeft, Scott Hahn and other like minded individuals. If you truly seek the truth this is a good place to start.

Although I won't spend much time on this I will correct a few obvious misconceptions and statements:

1."Jesus said not to say the same prayer over and oevr again...the rosary...repetitious prayers..." Jesus was a Jew and thus his life would have been full of ritual and repetitive forms of prayer.

2. "Jesus NEVER instructed us to pray rto Mary!!!!!!! In fact he said not to! He sais to pray to God ALONE and Jesus ALONE can interceed to the throne of God." This is fairly basic, Catholics do to pray to Mary, we honour her and respect her as the mother of god. In fact, the HAIL MARY prayer is taken directly from the Bible and are the words of the angel that appeared to her. (it's surprising that someone who apparently knows the bible so well has somehow missed this)

3. "Jesus says in his word Mary is NOT the eternal virgin. God says in his word Mary was ONLY a virgin until Jesus was born. After Jesus was born Mary began having sex with Joseph and had other children."

Seriously I lol'ed at that last one.

Ya, like I said. If you are reading this all I'm saying is keep your mind open to what the truth really is. Start with the already mentioned authors, those are some of the most well thought out and academic answers anyone has regarding and questions you may have Catholicism.


Concerned Citizen 4 years ago

I read almost all of the comments here, and I laughed, my brows met and sighed. We all have our own interpretation of the Word. But the question is, have we really read the Holy Bible.

I suggest, let's not just READ the BIBLE but LIVE IT and don't forget to PRAY.

God loves us all.


james 4 years ago

thanx for the enligthenment and encouraging words julia..,i hope everyone understands the priceless value of JESUS sacrifices and death on the cross,he died t to give us eternal life.no other religions or human traditions are capable of giving us eternal life apart from JESUS CHRIST!!...VCF is really an amazing church:-)


david 4 years ago

To Manola Flora and james.

I have read most of your post and I am so inspired by how both of you are so deeply rooted in the Bible. I am a born Catholic but I recently just started attending a Born Again Christian Church and it had changed my ways of living. But there are questions that boggled me according the my new found faith. Thanks to you guys I now found answers to my questions.

And I totally agree that it doesn't matter in what religion you belong, all that matters is having a personal relationship with God, accepting that you are a sinner then asking for forgiveness for your sins and living His ways and spreading the good news to other people. Thank you so much to both of you! May God bless both of you and your families. :D


james 4 years ago

to david

thank you so much for your words..i honestly is struggling with so many things but i never ever struggled with my faith..because i only believe only in GOD and his words and theres no way any religions could convince nor change my faith...i simply believe that religions and nothing but an instrument for deceptions and destructions...just grow strongly with your newly found faith because that is priceless and the reward is eternal joy..we are here as family helping each other..so welcome to the family of true christianity..wish i could meet all of you in person,its just great to have some people here giving you strentgh and inspiraitons amidst loneliness and trials :-)

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Jessi 4 years ago

I really hate to break it to all of you Catholic-haters, but the Holy Bible was compiled by the Catholic church 400 years after Christ's death. Yes, the CATHOLIC CHURCH created the Bible. No other Christian church even existed when the Bible was compiled. If the Catholic Church didn't believe in it, why would they have created it in the first place? Not to mention the Catholic council at the time CHOSE the books that were going to be in the Bible out of the hundreds of accounts of Christ's teachings as the one's being the true word of God. My question is why do Born Agains hate Catholics when the very book they are quoting against them was CREATED by Catholics. Seriously, where do you think the bible came from? God didn't just drop it down from Heaven.


Jasmine 4 years ago

I'm lost. I was raised catholic I admit I hardly go to church . My mom attends a Christian church but it's just not my thing to be up and singing and all that. But after all everyone is saying about roman catholic churches gets me sort of confused. I don't know what to be. I know I'm selfish cause all I think about is going to heaven when I die and I don't even think about the person who sacrificed his life for me. I do want to be religious so I'm kind of in between Christianity and Catholicism . can any help me as to what situation I'm in and what should I do to have a relationship with god without having to pick sides On a religion.cause after reading about my religion it seems that I've been taking the wrong path the whole time


james 4 years ago

@jessi:where in the bible did it say that "the bible"was created by catholic church?and what verse in the bible did it say that catholic created the bible and what verse in the bible did GOD encourage us to follow religions of catholicism in general?pls enlighten me!because all i knew is that the bible was the word of GOD and was written with the guidance of the holy spirit...GOD was the author of the bible because it was his words...no one hates catholic..we are here to love each other,i personally love people but doesnt like religion..because religions are man made traditions and deceiving..i dont care about religion as it is not the basis of my salvation..come to think of it?how many thousands of religion are there in this world?and most of them have their own interpretations of the beliefs..but the holy bible is only one...the real words of GOD,so why would i follow religions if i could confide my faith directly to the bible..


james 4 years ago

i love GOD and i dont like religions..i entrusted my faith to GOD thru his words..

@jasmin:sad to say,you cant be saved by becoming religious,you can never get save with your good works and doing your best to be a good person eithr..each and everyone of us commited sins and fell short to the glore of GOD.thats the essence of christ dying on the cross,to bring hope,joy and salvation to mankind.it was offered by GOD freely to those who are willing to accept it,your mom and other people who are singing are worshipping GOD,they gave thanks with a grateful heart,it all comes from their heart as they feel the holy spirit touching them.thats the difference of worshipping GOD freely to worshipping GOD using memorized songs or prayers..GOD is alive he doesn't need your memorized prayers or worships,imagine if your friend talking to you using memorized sentences and no interactions at all,how do you think your friend would feel?...give it a try to go with your mom coz i knew you came here not by accident,its you're time to know GOD and feel his goodness:-)


Elou 4 years ago

First Give Glory & praise to our God who is mighty to give life to us because of His great love. He gave man all of the gifts all created thing for man, to be a good stewards. He gave Bible to us as His instruction for salvation.Let us give honor and thanks to Holy Spirit who inspired the early Church members who compiled the old testament & later the New testament, the creation of the Holy Book using our early brothers-prophets, apostles,all members of the universal church( not religion,) the Church founded by Christ 33AD , during the day of the PENTECOST, (ACTS 2-14)We are lucky enough that we now read our Bible right away but not the apostles were not even read the Bible, Jesus in His teaching ministry, did not bring the Bible it was by Word of mouth of Jesus.Even Barnabas who inspired Mark and later Luke did not bring any Bible. We must thank all the members of universal Church(not religion) means "Catholic" that with out them who used & inspired by the Holy Spirit and compiled our Bible which the original manuscript is still well preserved in Rome. The Bible is a Catholic book even others did not agree.My former brother & sisters who shift to other dominations,may i ask this question,formerly as Catholic were you able to read your bible? it was only when you become born again you read the bible? but if you read your bible earlier during catholic days,more truth will be revealed. Are the apostles now in heaven with Jesus even they did not read the bible? how they know Christ? How Paul wrote many books in the Bible even he did not see Jesus?Its by word of mouth(not yet with Bible) During the ministry of Jesus who are with Jesus, James, John, Peter and Mary mother of Jesus.Mary is the fulfilment of John 1:1 "WORD made flesh". Which is first the Church or the Bible? Why the word bible cannot find inside the text of the Bible? only in cover, as in Catholic cannot find in the Bible because means universal (no name).Our Catholic faith are based on Sacred Scriptures, Sacred Tradition & magisterium(the keeper of the word) the proof that our Church existed and founded by Jesus is Mary His Mother She was with Jesus till His death.Mary was a Catholic.


manola flora 4 years ago

David thanks for being so kind with your encouraging words and may God bless you as you walk with Him and may He give you the desires of your heart. Having a personal relationship with Jesus is the only way to go and you will be blessed and He'll never leave you or forsake you, His promises are always true.

Jessi, sorry to disappoint you but the bible, God's Word as James has already written, it was God inspired written with the help of the Holy Spirit, it says that in the bible, not sure how you came up with that, you may need to get more information and you will see that what you say is not right. It's obviously not your fault and we don't hate catholics. In the dark ages, many christians were burned to death because of the bible and today we are grateful to them for sacrificing their lives so we could have the bible today, and the culprits that killed them were religious people, without mentioning who they were. Religions aren't good because they are made by man, Jesus wasn't religious, He left the glory of Heaven to come down to this awful world that we made it into, to save us, sacrificing His life to give us eternal life. He did that whilst we were still sinners. He said "it is finished' at the cross and He died on that cross and rose again, He is alive. If you read the bible there are a lot of things you can learn a lot about Jesus and what He has commanded us. I was a catholic by name, but my turning point was when my sister died ( as I've mentioned many times before) not only did my life change but the help of the Holy Spirit was so tangeable, I had given my heart to Jesus a year prior to her death, but didn't take it seriously, until she was diagnosed with brain cancer, but she began to totally love Jesus, I'm sure she always did, but her encouragement for me to follow Him was incredible.When we read the bible to her she was so much at peace, and she never lost her mind even being riddled with cancer, she just kept thanking Jesus every day. Most of my relatives and friends are catholic but are not changing their ways, still swearing, cheating, not going to church, going to visit fortune tellers, horoscope, living with a partner and saying it's ok, don't really need to marry and the list goes on. We cannot ignore God's Holy Word, in the new testament the command He Left us, was Love God with all your heart and all your soul, and love your neighbour as yourself, and if we do this there wouldn't be many problems at all in the world. The other day, I wanted to spend more time with God cause I'm always busy so I was hoping to hear from Him,(because he does want to talk to us, but I'm a real talker and need to listen more) but didn't really give Him too much time and so didn't really hear Him speak to me, so that night when I went to sleep, suddenly, this scripture came in my head and it wouldn't leave me, I didn't hear any voice but the scripture kept repeating in my mind, it was HEBREWS CHAPTER 10, VERSE 10. I heard HEBREWS 10/10! That was it and it reads 'AND BY THAT WILL, WE HAVE BEEN MADE HOLY THROUGH THE SACRIFICE OF THE BODY OF JESUS CHRIST ONCE AND FOR ALL', and it goes on, 'day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties, again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But when this priest(meaning Jesus) had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God.

This came to me on Easter Monday, Sunday was Resurrection day, and after watching a few movies on the death and resurrection of Jesus, it really makes me cry on how much He suffered and I was upset on how they still keep Him dead on the cross when we know very well, HE'S ALIVE, not dead, I wish my family and friends and everybody could understand what Jesus did for humanity and start to thank Him and worship His Holy Name and Glorify Him cause He deserves all our Praise and Honour, I wish and pray eyes will be open, spiritual eyes and minds, I'm so glad my eyes have been opened and the renewing of my mind, not following traditions and so forth, but following my LORD AND SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST. God wants us all to be saved and to one day go to the home He's promised and prepared for us where there will be no more tears no more pain.


manola flora 4 years ago

Elou????? The first church was birthed on Pentecost day, when the Holy Spirit as Jesus promised came upon the apostles and others and they spoke in other tongues, that's when the christian church was born. They received POWER from above. Also Jesus had other brothers and sisters, yes. All the people met every day sharing food having communion together and praised God. That was church. Catholic means universal so??? So that means christian Christ followers not tradition followers, Jesus hated religion lets not forget what he called the pharasees. From the cross Jesus called Mary woman and He told John to look after His mother, this woman, so He took care of business in His earthly family, He didn't say look after catholics. He knew His fate and He did His job to please His Father and do His will. Of course He loved His mother and wanted her to be looked after. She was a blessed woman and faithful and she is with Her son now, but doesn't want any glory from anyone, because she herself gives glory only to HIM. Let's follow her example.

I cannot seem to understand why you have to bring religion into Jesus. Please look at this site, called Jesus versus religion.

ps No one is knocking catholics, why do you all think you are being attacked, is it because it's called conviction??? Just trying to see things clear and what is written not made up, I used to make up my own theories too at one stage!


manola flora 4 years ago

Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus II Spoken Word-youtube with Emmanuel Kelly from X factor.

Jesus verses Religion

check it out


james 4 years ago

very well explained manola thank you so much for the enlightenments and bible based explanations..honestly iim so sad of seeing people trying to defend their religions rather than defending CHRIST who died for our sins ..how painful it is for JESUS too see these people (whom he offered his life so that we'll everlasting life)giving glory and honor to their religions instead of directly thanking him for his infinite love and sacrifices..it's just very sad to see millions if not billions of people losing their chances to know CHRIST personally and more intimately because of the hindrance that religions made..

truly that even in the bible it was said that many will get deceived by foolishness of this world and many wont be able to see the light..its just very ironic because if we die..GOD wont ask as if what religions do he have but rather he would ask if we acknowledge his son JESUS CHRIST WHO DIED FOR HUMANITY SO THAT WE'LL HAVE ETERNAL LIFE..and many would cry because they rely their faith on their religions but their religions wont be there to defend them,and the saddest part is that..theres no turning back,we'll never get another chance once we die,we cant tell GOD to bring us back to earth to correct our mistakes and tell the whole world that religions cant save us...remember we will only die once and we'll be judge once..so pls choose the right decision...dont put your eternal life at stake.this site is an eye opener so i hope all of us would make the right decision before its too late..ill say it again and again..religions wont save you but JESUS will..so focus your eyes on him and not on religion..follow his words thru the bible and lets be grateful for he'd done for us..


manola flora 4 years ago

well said James, you are truly blessed with wisdom that comes from God the Father Himself. Thank you!!


james 4 years ago

thanx manola,your encouragement and prayers are truly a big help for me..thuogh im falling,i will never leave the faith that i have..

to sum this up...true christianity is not about religion,its about relationship(personal relationship GOD)..and becoming born again is not a religion,its a transformation that is beyond humans capacity to do..it is not self righteousness but rather it is the effect of accepting christ that change you beyond your understanding ,its the work of the holy spirit changing you and making you a new creation..


manola flora 4 years ago

James, you are in His Hands and He will never let you go even if you fall or fail, He will be there to pick you up because of His amazing Grace and Mercy. You are defending His true Word so take heart He loves you very much!

We seem to keep repeating ourselves but it's worth it in the end, His word never comes back void. He is the judge and He is forever faithful. He said in His Word that we are His sons and daughters and His inheritance is ours, Praise God, we are blessed! One day soon the Truth will be known, let's just keep praying for the Holy Spirit to change people's hearts, just like He did to many of us, before it's too late!


MR BOY 4 years ago

Dear Writer,

I know the emptiness you feel.I'm not against the Catholic Faith.

Look to be born again

accpet Jesus as your Savior and repent

You don't need mary to be the mediator you have Jesus himself

The bible doesnt mention the rosary it doesn't help .

God loves you child,and want you to know him ans he is and not hail Mary a thousand times.

You need to talk to God sincerely tell him what's on your ming and he'll answer,God is faithful read John 3..

New Life Church is in Norway,born again check

http://newfrontierstogether.org/

talks abt this church.

God is good and he will find a way for you to be freed of this emptiness.


prince 4 years ago

I'm short of words, what people open they demm f*cking mouth to talk against God , whether live or die is by his grace i have no power in me just like empty pelepe..God is wonderful i blieve because he has been good to me through all my life till now ...i feel like crying when i remember my past , how it was then i just can't share that kind of experience to anyone except my God and my family... the day you confess your sins that Jesus christ is your saviour you become a new man in christ and as well be in him and he will never let you down he always making everything come to your affordable...John 10vs10 says the theive came to steal and distroy but he is coming to give you live abondantly...if you beleive surrender to Jesus Christ.


Hello! 4 years ago

Hello people. I seriuosly need help. I'm Catholic but I go to Christian youth ministry with my born again best friend. I recently attented a youth conference and it was awesome, I loved it. I go to this catholic church every sunday and then one day I started noticing something is missing. I dont exactly know what it is. I'm thirteen and confused. After reading all the comments here I said to myself I think I need to be born again (spiritual birth). But how? Do I have to be water baptize? I want to ask my best friend about this but I guess I'll ask ya people first. Im totally confused.


Chi 4 years ago

I also Catholic but my boyfriend and I attends Christian Church, ( just recently, april 1 2012 after i received a call from 700 club)i don't see anything wrong with it... we go there but they do not force us to be someone else, in fact they just wanted fellowship with us, which is good, because what we dont hear from catholic preaching we hear to them, i love attending worships, normally in catholic setting we have this patterned worshiping, u sing, u hear the gospel, the priest' sermon ( which sometimes gets boring, people started talking), offering, thats it! While in christian worship, its like giving testimonies of God, from there we get to know God/Jesus even more. WE GO THERE NOT TO PLEASE OURSELVES BUT MAINLY TO PLEASE GOD.


butaljb 4 years ago

Let's be all born again because Jesus wants to talk with you. No religion can save a person thus being religious is a sin. "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” Acts 4"12 (NIV). JESUS(period). NO one else,not Mary, not the saints..Jesus Alone.


james 4 years ago

GOD bless to all of us and i'm so happy to see many people are giving it a try to know JESUS in a more personal way..people who seek the truth will definitely find the truth..and people who love JESUS more than their religion will truly reap priceless rewards from GOD..i hope more people would love GOD more than their man made religion as only JESUS could save us and give us eternal joy..not our good deeds nor any religions..


Jennefer 4 years ago

Hazel,

May I suggest that you go to the Catholic church you have been going to and go to the RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults) class. It helped me to understand again and again when I lose my way. I was brought up until I was around 11 or 12 Roman Catholic and then we just stopped going to church. My grandma still tried to teach me the ways over the years. When I moved to Arkansas I started to go to different churches. I moved back and the back again to Arkansas. When I came back I was in a single church and had met a man that made me very happy and we married shortly after we met. Years later we went to the Catholic Church here. He understood the class and so did I. We went a second time to make sure we had absorbed everything. We are now in the process of getting him and his ex wife and annulment in the church so we can get married in the Catholics eyes and God's eyes will see that we belong together for eternity not him and his ex-wife. I hope you go to the class. When you go I do believe you will understand why you are Catholic all over again. And why you pray the Rosary and do confession the way we do it. Don't be afraid to ask questions while you are in the class either. I did and got a lot answered. Good Luck and I will be praying for you. May God Bless You Hazel!!!

Jennefer


manola flora 4 years ago

Oh Jennefer, I don't think I could ever take any of your advise. Thanks for sharing and hope the annulment goes well in the catholic's eyes. Best wishes anyway!

Hazel, after all of these comments, I do hope you've got it by now, only His truth can set you free not man made religions. Thanks for beginning this debate! :)

By the way Jennefer, you must not have anything against his ex-wife at one stage they were married too and were made one. Oh, also, she may also be in eternity too with both of you! God is so good he's no respector of persons!


butaljb 4 years ago

Religion is a way of man to reach God, like praying the rosary of doing confession in a priest. It doesn't work! God revealed Himself in the Bible. The rosary has never been said in the Bible to do it. In 1John 1:9 says "If you confess your sins to God, He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and to cleanse from all unrighteousness". Therefore, why we need a priest yet Jesus is our high priest and He forgives sin. God is everywhere! Psalm 33:13-14.


pauleen 4 years ago

Religion can not save you from your sins when you die, it's your faith in God that can save you,with whatever religion you are in right now or in the future, if deep inside your heart and your mind you still do bad things and remains to have bad intentions, it is useless. Religion is just a guide on how to reach out to our God. We have different interpretations when it comes to reading the bible... it will be a never ending argumentation and debate I guarantee you all... If I were you, just respect each other, look at your own mistakes first before pointing to others. "saying we are right and they are wrong." how sure are you? Don't be judgmental. God does not want us to do that, NOBODY IS PERFECT, NO RELIGION IS PERFECT... Just stick on your beliefs, read more, learn more, analyse, so you won't be BIASED! if you feel depressed or feel you're are in a wrong track, don't keep on changing from 1 religion to another... without deep understanding of one's religion it will make you weak, and finding something "new" will make you Biased... then you will become judgmental.

I am a Roman catholic, but I read articles about other religion and I respect it, and understands why other people converted to other religion, it's your choice as i have said religion can not save us, it's our faith in God. But sad to know that people who changed their religion kept on saying bad things things to their former religion? Is that the one you have learned from your new religion? finding mistakes from other religion? Just stop it.

LOOK AT WHAT YOU ARE WRITING... WHAT YOU ARE SAYING! YOU THINK GOD WILL LIKE THAT?, JUDGMENTAL PEOPLE... ALL YOU DO IS KEEP ON LOOKING AT THE THINGS THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH... AND TRYING TO SAY YOUR BELIEF IS RIGHT! HOW SURE ARE YOU? LOOK AT YOURSELVES NOW....


Higher ground 4 years ago

WE ARE SET APART, OUR AIM AND OUR COMMAND IS TO SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS, NOT JUDGING. AND YES, GOD WILL LIKE WHAT WE ARE SAYING BY GLORIFYING HIS SON JESUS. THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA, THE FIRST AND LAST, THERE IS NO OTHER, NOT NOW AND NOT EVER.


Hanna 4 years ago

You are free to say all that you want about your faith, your life, your personal relation with ?Jesus Christ. But your must not say wrong things concerning Catholics ! Your are insulting ?Catholics !?

Your are not allowed to insult catholic as you did it in your article !! ?

You were living your catholic fait as ignorant but all Catholics are not like you ! I'm catholic, ?but I can say to you that you know nothing about the catholic faith. ?

I’m proud of my faith. Your are not honest in saying bad things about catholic faith.?

You just want to criticise it. This is the so-called-new-born logic !?

Do you know that Catholics don't insult any other Christians as protestants, orthodoxies,...etc. ?Why do the protestants in all their kinds insult always Catholics by words as you did in your ?article ???

Why ??

Is this your new religion ??

Dose your new religion permit you to insult ??

You may say that you didn't insult !!?

That is because your ignore your evil !!?

Your have no right to say bad things about what you don’t know in catholic faith !!?

If you do it, you lose your credibility !?


Bryan 4 years ago

God calls us to be childlike, not childish. Only He and ourselves know where we stand with Him. Pride ultimately will land so many in hell, it is the sin of Lucifer, and he loves to see man indulge in it. Pray for God to convict you and give you direction and he will.. do everything humbly, and guard yourself against pride. So much pride poisons the church "I'm right and your wrong", its very sad that people have turned love into hate and justify it with a denomination. May the peace of our Lord in the name of Jesus Christ be with you. A born again believer and lover of the one true God :)


dore 4 years ago

i am a newly born-again christian, Jesus change me a lot. When a born-again christian shares me about the Word of God and begin to have a bible study with her, I begin to know who really Jesus is, how important He is in my life, how important committing and surrendering my life to Him which I didn't know back then when I'm a catholic. Back then, i really don't read bible but I do now and i realize how much time I've wasted instead of reading God's love letter to me.

The born-again christian church where am I now adopted the G12 vision. G12 means The Government of Twelve, The G12 vision is focussed on Jesus Christ and His command to the church to 'go and make disciples of all nations.' This is to be accomplished by the preaching and the teaching of the gospel of the Kingdom of God in the power of the Holy Spirit and the training of committed followers of Christ.

It is a strategy for evangelism and multiplication. This strategy is based on a believer’s love for Jesus and therefore a compassion for the souls. It was birth out of the Great Commission found in Matthew 28:19-20.

I have finished taking PRE-ENCOUNTER lessons and ENCOUNTER retreat with Jesus. Im strengthened now in taking lessons on POST ENCOUNTER..

back then when im a catholic is really a total opposite of what Im experiencing right now as a born-again christian, im developing a closer relationship with Him than ever before. i'm super blessed. Words can't explain what Im feeling as i sing praises to Him (which i really don't feel before when im in the catholic church, just standing and singing there). we're dancing and singing and praising Jesus. its not just an ordinary sunday mass, its a sunday service full with praises for Jesus and full of His lessons. we worship Him and drown into tears because we feel His presence.

Its really not the same..born-again is not a religion, its being born-again spiritually and start committing and LIVING WITH HIM.

...


arki_dore 4 years ago

i am a newly born-again christian, Jesus change me a lot. When a born-again christian shares me about the Word of God and begin to have a bible study with her, I begin to know who really Jesus is, how important He is in my life, how important committing and surrendering my life to Him which I didn't know back then when I'm a catholic. Back then, i really don't read bible but I do now and i realize how much time I've wasted instead of reading God's love letter to me.

back then when im a catholic is really a total opposite of what Im experiencing right now as a born-again christian, im developing a closer relationship with Him than ever before. i'm super blessed. Words can't explain what Im feeling as i sing praises to Him (which i really don't feel before when im in the catholic church, just standing and singing there). we're dancing and singing and praising Jesus. its not just an ordinary sunday mass, its a sunday service full with praises for Jesus and full of His lessons. we worship Him and drown into tears because we feel His presence.

Its really not the same..born-again is not a religion, its being born-again spiritually and start committing and LIVING WITH HIM. BEING NEW

Its about a starting a new life with JESUS. its about OBEYING AND TRUSTING HIM. its about LOVING Him.

RELIGIONS DON'T LEAD TO THE SAME GOD ---JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY TO GOD (I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me-JOHN 14:6

read your bible and find GOD'S ANSWER

John 3:3

Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

2 Corinthians 5:17

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

John 3:1-36

Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. ...

John 3:7

Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’


colette 4 years ago

Hi I've read some of the comments and it's very interesting. I myself was raised as a staunch anglican,with priests in robes and reciting the nicene creed,the our Father and back then we had liturgy book,which is now apparently called the anglican prayer book. Also incense being burned in church.(which I loved as a kid).I was baptised in infantsy. My belief was there before I understood or experienced any kind of religious instruction,when at the age of about 4,I called on God for help. I used to get a lot of spankings and I was threatened with yet another one,if I did not find my sandals,of which I could only find the one and I had to find it,so we could leave to go out somewhere. So I cried before God and I told him that I desperately needed to find my sandal as I was going to get a hiding,I wept telling Him that I did not want to get a hiding and if He could please help me to find it.

God helped me that day,when I found it in the very cupboard I had unpacked 3 times. I kept it in my heart.

I was basically brought up in the Anglican tradition and then at age 13,we moved and my parents were searching and started visiting more charismatic churches,and eventually settled at a church

that preached baptism and being born again and soforth.

In my thirtees,I went on my own journey. I questioned certain teaching. Every christian faith has something beautiful in it. Catholics and anglicans teach suffering as a virtue,which is what Jesus did for us. I was taught avoidance of it in the charasmatic church I was in,favoring wealth,prosperity and riches,saying this is Gods blessing,but yet our saviour was born without any of it,no place to sleep,born in a stable,in a feeding trough,manger-where animals feed from. Christs very life threatened from birth. Yet I learnt about baptism through immersion,come on they were baptised in the sea,why go to the sea when you can get water splashed in your face. I was baptised as a baby by my parents,yet as an teenager,I chose for myself to baptised through immersion. Coming up from the waters was like nothing I have and had ever exoperienced in my life. It was like new life. I also learnt about having a deep and personal relationship with God. I also became made my own commitment to tithing which I do to this day. But I believe that it is gain to suffer for Christs sake,for righteousness sake.

I love how the catholics marry God,it is beautiful,those who become nuns and priests. It is like the bride of Christ that the bible talks about,although I do not prayer through Mary,I love their dedication and commitment-how seriously they take their commitment. St. Paul as the anglican and catholic refer to Paul,didn't marry. That was his choice as he believed it was better for the furtherance of the gospel. Personally I prefer no images in the church,as it distracts my attention as those immages are neither God,nor Mary,no one knows what God looks like,I think in revelations it says He is an all consuming fire. We also do not know what Jesus looks like.

Personally I am not a fan of handclapping in church,or in general,as a matter of fact and although it's nice with certain songs,it is not a prerequisite of righteousness,you aint going to hell for not doing it and it is not the actual worship-the actual worship is doing the will of God. Submitting to God's will in all areas of your life,that makes Him truly the God of your whole life,because you give your life to Him in this way. And what you feel like doing,isn't the call of the Holy Spirit as some use their feelings as a guide and call it the Holy Spirit leading them to do things.

What I am saying,is that you dealing with people in church. People will disagree at church,at work,wherever.

It's a difference of opinion,but God's left his word for us to examine for ourselves. I would have to join and leave many churches every time someone dissagrees with me. Why do you think there are so many churches out there,but only 1 saviour,one God,one Holy spirit and one heaven? Do you honestly think only one christian denomination is going to heaven? And do you honestly think that hating,insulting other denominations,will get you a reserved place in heaven? I doubt it. You are saved by grace,but you cannot insult the gift of God with loose living,perversity and injustice,or hatred.

Do you think only baptists will enter the kingdom of God. You do not know who has made a commitments to God,or who's heart is reborn,it may be catholic,anglican,or anybody.

A good way to get rid of hatred,is to go and visit other denominations and worship as they do,maybe once a month.

Jesus spoke to a Samaritan woman. It wasn't the done thing. Wherever two or more are gathered in my name,I am present. You'll be surprised to experience Gods presence there as well. Although man is misguided,nothing stops you,figuring things out with God for yourself,by reading his word on your own.


Jarrhey 4 years ago

Born-again are actually Christians, but Catholics say that they are Christians too.. So things like Born-again, South Baptist, etc. were made because some insist to ask what branch of Christianity they are, but it doesn't really matter because Religion doesn't save you, faith does.

Now Being born-again is not a title given to you because you want to be called one. It is a choice to be a born again.

Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3, ESV)

Being born again means to be dead in sin, but alive in Christ. Because we are born sinners, we should be born again spiritually.

Well, I don't really think that Being Catholic means Christian though. I don't mean to offend some of you but I just wonna tell you this,Christianity is about honoring God, following Christ and admitting you’re a sinner and turn away from sin, and by that, you are a new creation! We can actually follow Christ through the Bible, and by honoring God it means obeying what he said, which is also found in the Bible. If you scan in the Bible, it says, There is only one God and serve only Him (Exodus 20:3; Isaiah 43:10; 44:6,8) . Now it is very obvious, Catholics worship/praise/promote a mortal woman, named Mary, to the level of God-like capabilities.I can’t even see the point of worshipping those Saints, for we are already a saint, when we are Christians or when we become one.

Guys, what made a Born-again (Christian) and the Catholic different is because Catholics add-up things from the Bible.

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I found this on a site:

(In Roman Catholicism, they say that Mary is the mediatrix (Catechism of the Catholic Church paragraph 969); Mary made atonement for the sins of man (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, page 213); Mary is the subject of preaching and worship ((Vatican Council II, p. 420); etc.

Catholicism violates the biblical doctrine of salvation by grace through faith alone. Paul the apostle, for example, tells us in Romans 4:5, “But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness.” But Roman Catholicism denies that and says, “…so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments,” (CCC, par 2068). Also, consider this:

“If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema” (Council of Trent, Canons on Justification, Canon 9).

So, even though Roman Catholicism claims to be Christian and that it is the one true church, it violates the essentials of the Christian faith. It goes beyond what is written in God’s word (1 Cor. 4:6). It denies the sole and true sovereignty of the living God by promoting prayer to and the worship of Mary. Also, it denies justification by faith alone in Christ alone. It is not a Christian church.)

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Also, 1 Corinthians 6:9 says, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,"

And it was very obvious that Catholics do idolize, they praise those woods and stones, and they worship other people. I recommend to those among you who do that to read Isaiah 44:9-12 to see the foolishness of what you're doing.

Okay now, Catholics and Christians like Born again and others are different because Catholics Go beyond God's word. being Born-again is being renewed by the holy spirit and not following the patterns of the world. Also, just because i said this doesn't mean i hate Catholics, In fact I love them, I just hate the sin, that's all.

So if you want to talk to me, you can go to www.phenomenalrhythm.tumblr.com and message me or ask at www.phenomenalrhythm.tumblr.com/ask because i don't have an account here though. Okay now, God Bless You. :)


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insurancesniper 4 years ago

People who have turned away believe this and choose to impose their befliefs apon other people who are confused about what they are...


noreligion 4 years ago

saints died here on earth and maybe ascend to heaven?but they can no longer hear our asking of prayers to reach/send those prayers to God.as a matter of fact we are all saints and someone made a law for that stated who did very pleasing to the eyes of our Lord will be called saint what a joke.I'm once a catholic for 16 years and now I am 19.it makes me goosbumps whenever there are festives that images were being dance in the streets..just in my experience when i'm a catholic,I am not listening from what the pries says but observing all the people attending the mass,not all of them were listening too just like me and as if they were making that place as a dating place or meeting place.I feel sorry for them and also to myself..I converted since my mom has an anxiety from her salvation..at first I refused to go to church with my mom then so one until I decided to go with her..now we are all Christians except for my dad..we don't need a religion brothers and sister all we need is to have an intimate and personal relationship to God communicating to Gog like you are close to him and like best friends and set aside those prayer books/prayer beads.ask a prayer for those who are still living in this earth not on dead that was accepted to the kingdom of heaven that so called 'saints' that are ordinary people like us.We are created good to do good things but some of us are still hard headed.Evil will rule this world when the time comes but God will take charge of it and will create a new world.


lyn 4 years ago

@manola flora

you keep on saying God hates religion

don't you know that Christianity is a religion?

James 1:27

Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

see that verse? there is a kind of religion that God accepts

are you a Christian?

a Christian means follower of Jesus

the question is are you a follower of Jesus?

do you give water to the thirsty?

do you feed the hungry?

do you clothe the naked?

do you love your enemy?

my point is that being a Christian is more than just a lip service or having a personal relationship with Jesus. you have to follow what Jesus taught us to do.


james 4 years ago

i dont care about religion..i just care about my personal relationship with the lord..as i repeatedly said this thousand times already ,religion cant save me,GOD is the the author and finisher of our faith!he died for our sins so that we could have eternal life...my faith is based on the GOD's words thru the bible with the guidance of the holy spirit..as what bryan said "Pride ultimately will land so many in hell, it is the sin of Lucifer, and he loves to see man indulge in it"

im not going to kill to myself defending my my religion because its not worth it..if ill make a sacrifice id rather choose wisely..something that is worth it,something that will reap salvation and not destruction!i personally chose GOD over religion as i know its the right choice and will bring victory..i will never ever fight for any religion as it couldnt save me....GOD already manifest his words thru the bible so if you still choose to follow man made traditions then its your choice but remember this! every choice has consequences so please choose wisely.again and again..don't put your eternal destiny at stake,theres no turning back!so for those who hardened their hearts,its your choice,at the end of the day,don't ever2 say that we failed to bring enlightenment here..its our pride that could jeopardize us in the end..GOD said" Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up. James 4:10


manola flora 4 years ago

Lyn, how amazing I quoted that same scripture today 'James 1: 27' to someone who kept on saying I'm religious cause I follow a religion because I go to a church. Of course Jesus hates man made religions, and that scripture is good, that's the only religion He talks about and I like that. Not religion of the world but His which is not in the same bracket the world thinks. I am a follower of Jesus Christ and I try my best to imitate Him in many ways as possible. I feed the hungry by giving money to our missions each month, we feed quite a lot of people around the world, we have a big ministry for missions in our church. I'm not able to be a missionary myself, but we do have our own mission field anywhere you live in the world today. I actually do feed a lot of widows and people I care for in my community, I cook meals for them and I give a lot of clothes and other things to the needy in my own country. I have done and do a lot of voluntary work to help people who can't help themselves, I've cleaned houses, helped in a cancer hospice and visit the sick, I'd love to do more if I had more time.(I'm not boasting, just answering your questions)I'm nothing without Him.

When God's love comes into your heart he pours His Spirit in you and become more and more like Him and less of you. You are just never the same again, that's when you can call yourself a real christian. Yes, you also forgive and love your enemies just like He forgave us! So christianity is not as religion like the world thinks but having a relationship with Jesus is all that counts because with Him being your friend you will never be the same again, He changes you from the inside and as He pours His love into us we become a new creation and want to be like Him. HE IS LOVE AND HE LOVES US ALL HE WILL NEVER LEAVE US OR FORSAKE US. WE ARE SO BLESSED!


james 4 years ago

@lyn...yes surely manola did all those good works but those were fruit of the holy spirit and being a true christian...thats the difference if you do it for the sake of good works believing it can save you...but doing good works because of how GOD changed you is a totally different stories..im telling you this,we are all having our own religions before,i was a pure catholic just most of the people here..the only difference is that,we open our mind and heart to accept our mistakes and humble ourselves before the lord and accept him alone as our personal lord and savior...and from there we found the light and never will we ever comeback to darkness!!its a matter of following CHRIST and his words and not the traditions or any other beliefs that could just bring you to disaster...i think thats the main difference here..being able to humbly accept your mistakes and give christ a chance in your heart.what manola and other christians wanted to do is to share the gift of salvation and the priceless joy that they experience,so blessed are those who give CHRIST A chance to rule their lives.i consider myself so blessed for knowing GOD personally and im thankful to GOD my heart wasnt hard enough and my eyes were not close to see my shortcomings..i'm so thankful to those christians who became GOD's instrument for me to be able to experience the infinite kindness of GOD


manola flora 4 years ago

Well said James, God bless you mightily!!


Ricky "D" 4 years ago

I feel badly for Catholics who have lost their faith. Everything in Catholicism has been handed down to our church from Jesus Christ. The word Catholic is derived from the Greek and all it means is "UNIVERSAL" as the Universal Church is referenced many times in the Bible. If you think a Priest forgives your sins because that's our policy, you are sadly mistaken, its what Jesus Christ told Peter to do and to pass it on. I suggest you read the Acts of the Apostles which is really about the birth of Catholicism and the UNIVERSAL Church.


james 4 years ago

@ricky

we never ever felt bad because never did we lost our faith!in fact,we finally found the real meaning of faith..a faith that is genuine and acceptable to GOD's sight...we only lost our religions which for us is totally a gain because now we are free from the bondage of sins of idolatry and deception...now we realized that the "CHRIST"who died for our sins are alive and reachable and not just a form of statue that is being treat like a dead..now we only worship the true GOD who could bring salvation for our souls..now we realized that only him deserves to be worshiped and honor and not any other so called saints who were all humans like us..now we could reach GOD thru his words"the bible"unlike before that we rely everything to traditions and doctrines that twisted the real words of GOD..now we could freely worship GOD and feel his holy spirit unlike beforet hat we just go to church and repeat the same prayers as if talking to a dead..now we have personal relationship with GOD and he changed our lives ni an unexplanable way for only him can make us a new creation..now we have peace of mind and joy,and we are assured of salvation..we are happier now and we finally found our purpose in this earth...so now,tell me exactly what we had lost after informing you the priceless gains that we had after having personal relation with jesus christ? with christ...sorry but i could only jeopardize myself ones,now that GOD showed me the way,why then would i follow the wrong way that would only separate me from GOD..fyi, losing our religions means we lost nothing but we gain everything!!!you cant explain how blessed and grateful we are for having been given the chance to know GOD this way and you too and many other people will experience the same way if only you let GOD and not your religions lead your way..


tim 4 years ago

i dunno this all too heavy i did like aaron's perspective its like that song " if you wanna get to heaven, you gotta raise a lil hell!!"......but all in all way to argumentative here.

i was just looking for the "actual" diffs like in beleifs and such ect...


Munna 4 years ago

Read the book name QURAN.. This is the book sent on the messenger that Jesus PBUH said "John 15:

26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: (12)"

Also refer detail in article below:

http://university.etrat.net/file.php?file=%2F1%2FA...

God is only one Moses, Jesus, Mohammad PBUT all are Prophet of GOD.

Read Bible and check what Jesus has actually taught of...

May the only God guide us in the Right path which leads to Paradise. Aameen.

Regards,

Follower of Mohammad PBUH


Gerry 4 years ago

I to have separated myself from a life time of Catholicism. I do not regret leaving the church because I have felt for a long time that there a deeper truth that I was missing because of the ingrained ritualism of the church. Recently I have begun to understand why it is important to move from all teachings of the Old testament and to find true Christianity in the only place that it exists, which is the New Testament. We are saved through Christ in faith because Christ's birth, death and resurrection was for the purpose of freeing us from the "old laws", including the ten commandments. Read Romans 13:8-10. Freeing us from the old laws was the true gift of salvation. We must follow Christ's one professed law, which was to love our neighbor as he has loved us. Doing this ensures that all the other "old laws" are abided by. Once you allow yourself to be freed from man's versions Christianity, by way of their religions, true light will then shine upon us all. Catholicism adds too much drama with their silly rules and ritualisms, which were never dictates of Christ, and by doing this the catholic church has ruined a very simple ability to worship Christ. May you all find your way through Christ. Amen.


butaljb 4 years ago

Be born again


butaljb 4 years ago

@pauline, Born again is not and never be a religion. Praise the Lord, He honors every heart to those who wanted to talk to HIM. There is the Holy Spirit.. It's a relationship, thus, it can only be an assurance.


Pyro 4 years ago

Burn Again Christians. LOL


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Family Black 4 years ago from Dallas, Texas

You have a lot of feedback on your post, interestingly a lot of anger in the responses. Many people have felt that as the Roman Catholic Church has added tradition upon tradition that they have moved further and further from the Bible. The reformers of the past and those of each generation motivate us back to the Bible for our source of faith and practice. Being born-again is not a denomination, or a cult; there are fringe groups in every group that can embarrass the snot out of you. The message of the Bible is timeless, transcendent, and life giving. Find a church that preaches just the Bible, encourages your relationship to Christ, and gives peace in your heart. Stay away from all that put tradition equal to or above the Bible. Stay away from baby dunkers and those that teach that baptism saves you, that is anti-Biblical and repugnant; baptism does not save it shows that you are saved and that you believe in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ.

Dr. A. Lee Black


jzdrpinby 4 years ago

I am blessed reading the posts and comments...If we are truly a bible believing people, we need to pray, read and understand the word of God.Whereas we may able to take our stand biblically.As I read the word of God, I found out that the issue of our faith is not on to which religion we stand but on how we knew our Lord Jesus Christ. To God be the glory and God bless.


You be your own judge, do not let religions judge you. 4 years ago

The bible is man made, religion is man made, follow on your own. You can have a relationship with God on your own you need not have to follow anything man made. Your private relationship with god is your own, you do not have to share your beliefs with anyone. Going to church only makes people feel they are doing the right thing, in your heart you will know whether or not you are doing the right thing if you have your own personal relationship with god. Rebirth? This is also man made, be your own person you do not have to be a follower. Every man made religion or church is basically in it for the money, I do not believe god would approve. Follow your heart with your own relationship with god. In this you will find peace and redemption. The weak minded fall into these religions traps or "cults" if you will.


RickRay 4 years ago

38,000 different xian sects ! You all fight amongst yourselves as to whose interpretation is correct! Religion is poison and you people are a joke to mankind.

Signed: A rational, naturalist!


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