When We Die Do We Go To Heaven Or Paradise?

Many people believe when they die, they will go to Heaven. This has been taught in churches for hundreds of years. However, this is not what is written in the bible. In the bible it is written that when will die, instead of going to heaven, we will enter Paradise. There is a difference between Heaven and Paradise.

The first man who will be going to Paradise will be a man who was crucified along with Jesus Christ. Luke 23: 41-43 "We are punished justly, for we are getting what we deserve, but this man has done nothing wrong." Then he said " Jesus, remember me when you come into your Kingdom." Jesus answered him, " I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in Paradise".

Jesus told the man he would be in Paradise, but not when he would be in Paradise, because in Revelation we have been taught several things about Heaven and Paradise.

Jesus tells us in John 3:13 No one has ever gone to Heaven except the One who came down from Heaven, the Son of man.

Revelation also teaches many things about Paradise and Heaven. Revelation 20:11-13 The I saw a great white throne and Him who was seated.....And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne and the books of life were opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they have done as recorded in the books. And the sea gave up it's dead, and Hades gave up the dead that were in "them" and each person was judged according to what he had done.

In Jewish teachings Hades means people will simple awake from the earth. People are simply asleep in the ground. So, not only will the sea give up it's dead, so will the earth. Hades can also be translated and the underworld. This can be explained in John 5:28 They all await in their graves for resurrection. Death is not life in Heave or hell, limbo, or purgatory. Death is not life of any kind. The soul does not live, the spirit does not live. It only sleeps.

Another important fact can be found in Revelation 21:1 Then I saw a new Heaven and a new earth, and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.

Why would God create a new earth, Wouldn't that be Paradise? It also tell us in the bible that 144,000 will enter Heaven, and who the 144,000 will be. Revelation 7:4 And I hear the number of those who were sealed, 144,000 from every tribe of the sons of Israel. The sons have also been called " A Remnant Of Israel"

Another Verse in Revelation 22:3 No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and the Lamb will be in the city and his servants will serve Him. This verse does not say his angels will serve him. Perhaps the 144,000 will be his servants.

The bible also tells us how wonderful Paradise will be. In Paradise God will wipe away every tear, there will be no pain, the sun will shine and it will be filled with joy.

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Mmargie1966 4 years ago from Gainesville, GA

Wow, Michele! Where do I start? 1st, read my hub:

http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Near-Death...

2nd, contrary to Theologians, I have realized that the Jews are the chosen people because they descend from Judah. However, the Bible says the "Israelites" are the chosen. Judah was 1 of 12 Isrealites. Levi had no tribe, and 10 were lost. It is believed by some that the lost 10 tribes of Israel (Jacob, renamed by God) have been discovered. I have a book that was published in the 1940s called "The United States and Britain in Prophecy" by Herbert W. Armstrong. Perhaps I will respond with a hub on the matter.

Voted up and interesting! Great Job!


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tillsontitan 4 years ago from New York

Interesting hub for sure. What we believe, what we read in the Bible and how we interpret things varies so greatly it is hard to say what is actually fact. You have a lot of good quotes with food for thought.


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billybuc 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

I have no idea my dear but will let you know when I find out. :) Nice job, interesting read!


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Thank you Mmargie1966. I would love to read that hub, it sounds very interesting. Thank you so much for your comments.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Thank you for your comment tillsontitan. I wasn't sure anyone would comment on this because of all the differences in the bible and what people are taught in most religions.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Thank you for your comment billybuc, I agree I will let you know when I find out also.


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now)

Hi Michele!

First let me tell you that I never read what Jesus said to the thief the way you read it.

I read it this way, " I tell you the truth. Today (meaning that day, the day the thief died) you will be with Me in Paradise."

I guess everyone can read things differently :)

I am not so sure that everyone is sleeping because then how could the saints cry out to God from under the altar?

"And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled." Revelation 6:9-11 K.J.V.

And since these who were slain are under the altar wouldn't that mean that they are in heaven near to the throne of God since this passage occurs before the new heaven and earth are created? This passage was also before the 144,000 and so these slain do not appear to be on that number.

Just some thoughts :) Your hub is very interesting and I will think about it some more!


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Northwind, thank you for your comment, it is a very good one. As for the man on a cross next to Jesus going to Paradise today the only problem is the comment. It the comment is moved then it means Jesus spoke today instead the other man is going today. Now for the souls under the altar, I think I will have to do more research. Thank you once again for such a great comment.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

North Wind, I think there are two resurrections in Revelation. Revelation 20:4 And I saw the souls of those executed with the ax for the witness they bore to Jesus, and for those speaking about God, and those who had not received the wild beast nor it's image upon their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and ruled with Christ for a thousand years ( this is the first resurrection) 5- The rest did not come back to life until the thousand years were ended. I don't know if this is any good. I was just wondering.


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now)

Michele, I think that these are the ones who those under the altar were waiting for - the ones who were to be killed. They are resurrected as I do think the dead in Christ will rise again. But my question is, if the souls are under the altar with the angels and God nearby in Chapter 6, then aren't they in heaven? And if this is so then it means that there are people in heaven awaiting the day of the Lord.


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Drtruthman 4 years ago from Harlingen, Texas

Well, well, well my sister. You know how to "bring them in" I can share some things that will probably knock the socks off of most believers about this issue but again, too much and too controversial for here. I will just say this: Jesus said, "where He went, we will be also and He went to prepare a place for us....which was Heaven and not paradise". Also, the term Earth is sometimes miss translated. Linguistic analysis (utilizing Koine' Greek of the NT) seems to lean more toward "the dirt or solid place"...New Planet.

Paradise was an OT designation Jesus simply utilized because it was what OT man was familiar with. It is more Egyptian, than Hebrew in concept brought from Egypt via Moses.

I will have more to say on this subject on my other site that I cannot talk about here but I suggest visiting my profile page and staying in touch. Great job Michele. I voted UP all across.

Well I am sure by now I am labeled a real "wacko" by my mainline Christian brethren ....LOL


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

North Wind that is a very good question, and I do not know the answer. I would like to know the answer, but I do not know enough. Your comments do help me to learn, and that is a very good thing. Thank you.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Well I do not think you are a "Wacko" but will you please email me so I can understand and and go to your other site?

Thanks!


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Drtruthman 4 years ago from Harlingen, Texas

Well I am way behind over there so I will email the address and you can view the first two articles. It is going to be Heavy to medium theology with a sprinkle of scientific knowledge/evidence thrown in.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Sounds good to me. I need to change my hubs anyway. I think they are getting boring. Fewer people are reading them.


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searchinsany 4 years ago from UK

Hi Michele

This is an interesting topic.

A couple of points come to mind.

I have referred to 19 versions of the Bible and none of them insert a comma in Luke 23:43 ‘…To day shalt thou be with me in paradise…’

2Co 12:2-4 KJV I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

Paul said he was caught up to ‘…third heaven…’ in verse 2 and ‘…paradise…’ in verse 4. I am persuaded the names are synonymous.

In my opinion, when believers die they immediately go to be with the Lord.

Joh 14:3 KJV And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

The reason for my confidence is partly based on John 14:3. It may be overlooked, but between the two statements ‘…I go and prepare a place…’ and ‘…there ye may be also…’ Jesus also said ‘…I will come again, and receive you unto myself…’

It is because Jesus has returned that believers can go to be with Him. I am confident that I will be with the Lord at my death.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Thank you for commenting searchinsany I have the Living Insights Bible, The King James Version, and the NASB they all have the comma in the same place, which is right after the word "you" I also understand what you are saying about 2Co 12:2-4 But as for John 14:3 in KJV Jesus Christ did say And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that were I am, there ye may be also. However, Jesus did not say "When"


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teaches12345 4 years ago

Interesting hub post and one that is causing some thought provoking research of the question. A look at the gospels and the writings of his resurrection would be very helpful in answering this question. Thanks for the challenge


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Drtruthman 4 years ago from Harlingen, Texas

FYI- in the Koine' Greek there is no comma either. But I just have to say this without going "preachy" here, this is ALL a matter of FAITH simple FAITH. Love to all. Lee


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searchinsany 4 years ago from UK

Hi Michele

I am sorry if I have confused things but I was referring to the comma in your quote after the word ‘today’.

Your quote " I tell you the truth, today, you will be with me in Paradise".

The NASB “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.”


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

teaches, thank you for your comment. I do think I need to do more research before my next hub


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Lee, I have not read the Kloine translation. But, then you do know much more. That is a good thing:)


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

searchinsany thank you I simply made a mistake in putting an extra comma, that should not have been there. It was not a confusion. I do have a question to ask you. You commented that you " I have referred to 19 versions of the Bible and none of them insert a comma in Luke 23:43 ‘…To day shalt thou be with me in paradise…’" Can you tell me which bibles you were referring to?


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searchinsany 4 years ago from UK

Hi Michele

Apostolic Bible Polyglot

American Standard Version

1965 Bible in Basic English

Contemporary English Version

1889 Darby Bible

1899 Douay-Rheims Bible

English Majority Text Version

English Standard Version

1587 Geneva Bible

God’ Word

International Standard Version

King James Version

Lexham English Bible

Literal Translation of the Holy Bible

James Murdock New Testament

Revised Version

1833 Webster Bible

1912 Weymouth New Testament

1898 Young’s Literal Translation

All these versions are freely available for download from my favourite Bible software ‘e-sword’

http://www.e-sword.net/


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Searchinsay

Authorized King James Version has it

New American Standard Bible has it

New Living Translation Bible has it

New American Standard Bible has it

Living Insights Bible has it

New World Translation has it

And King James Version has it!!!!!!!!!

The only difference is, I read the verses from the bibles in my house. Not from the bibles online.


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searchinsany 4 years ago from UK

Hi Michele

Are we talking about the same thing? The comma after the word 'today' in Luke 23:43. In your previous comment you said you made a mistake.

New Living Translation “I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise.”

New American Standard Bible “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.”

The King James Version 'Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.'

I don't have access to the Jehovah Witness New World Translation.

I think we must have our 'wires crossed' somewhere.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

searchinsany please forgive me I crossed the wire and was responding to someone who had emailed me. I am very sorry. Will you forgive me? I was doing two things at the same time. And once again, I am very sorry. Oh, and the Jehovah Witness New Word Translation is pretty much the same as all the others. The only difference I have found it they use the word " Jehovah" and the word " stake" instead of cross. They also don't think the 144,000 who go to Heaven are only Jehovah Witness's


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searchinsany 4 years ago from UK

Hi michele

No problem.


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pmccray 4 years ago from Utah

I don't believe that a certain number of souls will make it into heaven, otherwise non believers will be correct in their thinking that there is no reason to abide by Biblical law. I feel that just as God gives man a choice to believe and not believe, we will all be given a chance to sit with Him in heaven. If only the 144,000 are destin to sit with the Father, then why should the rest of us even try? No I can't believe that God would play a shell or con game with the children he loves so much He gave His only begotten son for our sins.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

That makes a lot of sense to me, it really does.


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Tami Fite 4 years ago

Good hub and comments -- I think some of these questions are meant to be unknown, however it is exciting to consider what happens when we slip into eternity. My mom recently entered eternity and the first few days this was all I could think about. I am faith "filled" and know that whatever it is she is doing, she is at peace with the Lord.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Tami Fite I agree with you. One of the reasons I write hubs like this is to learn from people who learn more than I do. People who can teach me things. The most important thing, that I already know, however is God loves us. God loves us so much he gave his only Son. Who was crucified. Jesus was not forced to be crucified. That was how we were forgiven for our sins. When we ask for forgiveness, we are forgiven! God is so wonderful and amazing. He loves your mom and she is at peace with God. I believe that. God Bless you and your family.


Lisa 4 years ago

Here is the thing about the comma controversy- when Jesus said this to the penitent criminal, He was being crucified as was the criminal. They were 100% sure of their impending death so how much sense does it make for Jesus' comment to mean anything other than on this day, you will be with me in Paradise. It just makes no sense for Jesus to have meant that, "I tell you today- versus tomorrow or yesterday- that you will be with me in Paradise. There was no "tomorrow" for either of them- they were on their death beds so to speak so why would our Lord have meant "time of telling" versus "time of being"? Nay, but upon a Christians death, we go to be with the Lord- "I will never leave you nor forsake you" means NEVER- not even in the grave!


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Lisa, thank you for your comment. What you wrote is very good. People help me understand things better. Sometimes my hubs are questions. Writing them, helps me get answers.

Thank you again and God bless you.


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LadyLyell 4 years ago from George, South Africa

Hi Michele, I read your article with great interest finding that you and I have the same understanding on scriptures. Would I be right is saying that you are one of Jehovah's Witnessess also? Your explanations of scriptures is much the same as theirs.

I look forward to reading more of your hubs.

Regards!


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

LadyLyell, you are the first person to ask me that question. I have not told anyone about it, because many people do not understand them. people think they are a cult. They are not a cult. No, I am not a Jehovah Witness, but I do study with them. The bible they use " the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures" is the most accurate.

I also attend their meetings from time to time. They study from the bible, not just teach from one verse of the bible then sing for 20 minutes. When people talk about Jehovah Witnesses, most of the time they are wrong in what they are saying. Most people simply do not understand the Jehovah Witnesses, because they do not take the time to actually listen to what they are saying.

I never try to force anything upon anyone.

God bless you


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

LadyLyell When I said I was not a Jehovah's Witness, I meant not yet. There is a reason, it takes to long to explain. I am on disability, but had brain surgery for brain for it 2 years ago. It was very expensive so now am on bankruptcy. My ex-husband and I are back together. That is the only reason I have not been baptized as a Jehovah's Witness. Because of the bankruptcy we have not re-married. When we do get married again, then I will be able to be baptized.

The story about everything that happened in my past is long, but Jehovah has forgiven me. But, as I have said before when we get married again, that will be the time I will be able to be baptized.


PC 3 years ago

If you continue on in the Revelations 7: 9-14 it goes on to say,

"After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. 13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

The answer is right there but we never read far enough to get it. The 144,000 is regarding the 12 Tribes of Israel. But the Bible clearly states that the number of those who will enter The Kingdom is a great multitude. And since there is no number it could be vastly greater than the 144,000 since the Bible clearly states that the 144,000 is but a remnant of the original tribes.


fred neal 3 years ago

please be careful when reading this. The soul does not sleep. To be absent from the body is to be pressent with the Lord


Austin 2 years ago

John 3:13 actually says "No one has ever gone to heaven and returned. But the Son of Man has come down from heaven." This means no one has gone to heaven and came back to earth. Scripture tells us that in Hebrews 11:5 It was by faith that Enoch was taken up to heaven without dying... 2Kings 2:11 ...and Elijah was carried away by a whirlwind into heaven. 2 Corinthians 5:8 Yes, we are fully confident, and we would rather be away from these earthly bodies, for then we would be at home with the Lord.

By this we know that after death if you are a believer you will go to heaven because that is where our Lord is at. Paul made a reference to death being like sleep because you fall asleep on earth and awake in heaven. As believers our spirits will ascend into heaven and later at the resurrection our bodies will regain our bodies and they will be perfected in the blink of an eye. In regards to between earth and heaven there is a place called Sheol. Sheol is divided into two sections one side is called Sheol, a place for nonbelievers, and the other is called Abraham's Bosom, a place for believers. Scripture tells us in Ephesians 4 that Jesus descended to Abraham's Bosom to set the captives free . The same passage says He ascended to heaven with the captives He delivered. Scripture interprets itself, line on line precept on precept, we should never make any attempt do so ourselves.


Godsgirl 2 years ago

Thank you Austin! I hope everyone else will make it down to your comment! :)


lucky 21 months ago

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