Where Do Evil Spirits Come From? Hmmm, Let's See...

Oooohhhhh!!!

It's all in your mind. Be grateful for that!
It's all in your mind. Be grateful for that!

You may well be surprised!

So, you have been led to believe that evil spirits come from the devil. Guess again. They come directly from the Jewish/Christian/Muslim god himself. Let's check out the Old Testament:

  1. JUDGES: God sends an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem;
  2. 1 SAMUEL: God sends an evil spirit to Saul so that he has a mental breakdown;
  3. 1 SAMUEL: God makes the evil spirit leave Saul after David plays his harp;
  4. 1 SAMUEL: God sends another evil spirit to Saul, causing him to prophesy;
  5. 1 SAMUEL: God’s evil spirit hangs out with Saul while he has a javelin in his hand and David plays with his hand;
  6. 1 KINGS: God sends lying spirits to prophets so that they speak evil; and
  7. 2 CHRONICLES: God sends lying spirits to prophets so that they speak evil.

You just can't make this kind of stuff up. No matter how you slice it, evil is a creation of the Biblical god. And that includes the creation of the devil himself, who, by the way, was God's right hand man for much of the time.


Now, you can continue to believe that evil is a separate force from good. But, as you can see from the above set of scriptural passages, the so-called good god of the Bible is the very one who brought evil into existence.


Before you think I am actually being critical here, understand this: Good cannot exist without evil, and vice versa. They complement each other. You can only recognize good because evil exists. Nothing more, nothing less. You are as blind in all light as you are in all dark. The contrast is essential for survival itself.


The universe is created in a way the brings all opposites into play. Light vs. dark; up vs. down; in vs. out. You get the picture. Good and evil are no different. One needs the other. God needs the devil, at least in the minds of those who think God is distinct and separate (read "above") from the rest of the Cosmos.


In the final analysis, evil is actually a blessing. It is the only way you can see the good. More important, it's the only way you can learn to PRACTICE the good. You are the final arbiter. You must make the choice. If evil flourishes in the world, it isn't because of the devil. It's because of you.


"You must be the change you would see in the world." Gandhi

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HOOWANTSTONO 7 years ago

Interesting, why dont you actually paste the verses in so we can see them

"For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them" Jesus Christ


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RichardSpeaks 7 years ago from Portland, OR Metro Area Author

They are in the post. Can you actually not see them? Seriously? If not, let me know again.


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HOOWANTSTONO 7 years ago

No scriptures just quotes

1. JUDGES: God sends an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem;

2. 1 SAMUEL: God sends an evil spirit to Saul so that he has a mental breakdown;

3. 1 SAMUEL: God makes the evil spirit leave Saul after David plays his harp;

4. 1 SAMUEL: God sends another evil spirit to Saul, causing him to prophesy;

5. 1 SAMUEL: God’s evil spirit hangs out with Saul while he has a javelin in his hand and David plays with his hand;

6. 1 KINGS: God sends lying spirits to prophets so that they speak evil; and

7. 2 CHRONICLES: God sends lying spirits to prophets so that they speak evil.


Kim Garcia 7 years ago

Richard, I can see them plainly. All the above Scriptures are there in black and white. I truly believe God sends or allows evil spirits to come around certain people in order to test them. See if they follow down the wrong path. God never temps us, but He does indeed test us, as tested by fire for purification.

Thanks for posting!! Peace ~K


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GRivers 7 years ago

I would just like to point out that God's creations (both Spirt and Human) when first created were created perfect and given free will and free choice. Meaning, we could do or not do something, think or not think something. We were not created as robots. Satan,when he was a perfect angel of God choose to think an evil thought and he did not dismiss it. Instead he keep thinking on it until finally he acted on it. He made the choice to do evil. He was not created that way. Although he held a very high position, he was not God's right hand, Jesus was and is. Infact, it was this very fact that made Satan become jealous of Christ, creating a spirt of discontent within himself which lead to his rebellion. I do like your subject matter, Great!


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RichardSpeaks 7 years ago from Portland, OR Metro Area Author

No angel could rebel against God. No angel could become God's opposite. No human rebelled against God either.

If one is going to go according to Scripture, one must actually read not only the KJV or the NLT or the other versions. One must study the Greek and Latin. If you think you know the Bible simply by reading 17th or 21st century English, you are deluded.

Having said that, I will say this:

Read (in English) the story of Adam and Eve in Genesis. You will notice that they didn't realize they had done anything wrong until AFTER they had eaten the Fruit. Notice it says "And THEN their eyes were open..." which means their eyes had been closed. They did not rebel. They simply followed their senses. Good thing, too. They would still be the only two people on earth. After all, according the church dogma and doctrine down through the ages, humans and all other animals only indulge in sex for reproduction because of sin. If there had been no sin, there would be no sex and therefore, no reproduction.

Point? God knew they would eat. He intended it. He allowed the serpent to tempt them (his creation also). He knew the choice they would make. Why? Because that was the plan.

Don't fool yourself into thinking that any of us, including the devil and the spirits, had any real free will.

By the way, I salute Lucifer. He was the only one who had the balls to stand up to the Great Dictator. Read the Old Testament closely. That's what God is. He is jealous, angry, vindictive, and vengeful. "I want it all my way! And if you don't obey, off to hell with you, you worthless scum!" Now we all have to get saved in order to appease this fool.

Not me. I know that the Creator of the universe and the idiot in Genesis are not the same. The Creator of the universe is truly creative. Just look at the structure of everything. Look at the cell. Look at nebulas, black holes, white dwarfs, planets, moons, trees, insects, bones, blood, even spiders. The god of Genesis is nothing more than a sorry magician. Poof! There it is. Now worship me or else.

Prove me wrong, if you can.


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RichardSpeaks 7 years ago from Portland, OR Metro Area Author

To Hoowantstono: Sorry, I thought you meant what I had written didn't show up at all. Actually, I deliberately left out the actual scriptures. Those are really want to know will find them in the books mentioned. Makes a little more work, but practice makes perfect, right?

Thanks for mentioning it.


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HOOWANTSTONO 7 years ago

I found them, yes it confirms evil Spirits are subject to God, and obey him, as do the good Angels.

I would then say God allows good to happen and bad to happen, just depends on the person and who he believes in.


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RichardSpeaks 7 years ago from Portland, OR Metro Area Author

Simple? Not really. If God created everything, he created--if not evil itself--the possibility of evil for the reasons I explained above. You and I would have no sense of what good is if we had nothing to compare with it. Also, it's important to remember that most likely there is no inherent good or evil in the universe, only what we perceive it to be. And without the ability to choose evil, we would have no choice whatever. All options must be available. Including the choice to kill and rape and murder and cheat and crucify Christs. Without that ability, we are just one more animal operating on instinct.

The Creator knows what it's doing. All is in perfect order. No mistakes. No fault. No blame. Everything is energy. Only the form changes. And, on top of that, there is only One Energy. Love. And Love is the only Reality. Of that, I am certain. And for that, I am truly grateful.


Kim Garcia 7 years ago

The book of Job clearly shows how God allowed Satan to wreak havoc on Job's life for the sake of testing him, in order to prove His point that Job was His worthy servant, and no matter how much pain or suffering, he would still be loyal. But I will have to admit, the book of Job was one of the hardest books in the Bible for me to read and digest.


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RichardSpeaks 7 years ago from Portland, OR Metro Area Author

Kim: You're on target. Especially when you consider that God, who is supposed to know everything, should have to test ANYONE in order to prove ANYTHING. God should have know that Job would react as he did. He should have known that the tests would not make Job change his mind. If he didn't, then he is not all knowing, therefore, not all wise. Wait... Who is this god? Oh, yeah. He is a hold over from the Egyptian gods. After all, the Hebrews were captive for a lot of years. They were bound to pick up some bad habits. Yahweh is one of those bad habits.

Picky? Not really. Just trying to understand how people can still believe that the god of the Old Testament is the one and only creator when he obviously has no real idea what his creation is up to.

Don't believer me? Read it more closely. The truth will show itself and you'll be amazed.

Many blessings.


Kim Garcia 7 years ago

Thanks for your reply Richard. I have read and reread the book of Job, like I said, not an easy book to make my way through. But...the conclusion I have come up with is to prove to all humanity that no matter how bad things get; our health, trials, tribulations, finances, hunger, pain...etc...the final hope and only hope we have is our Faith in God and prayer. To sum it up; when Job began to pray for his friends and realize God's Omnipotence in the scheme of things, he then began to heal. God healed Job, and blessed him with everything he had lost and more. Hard lesson to learn? Yes without a doubt, but one I will never forget. And what I've taken with me in my spirit from reading the book of Job is no matter how bad I feel, and no matter how much pain I'm in, to always pray for others. I've laid in bed many nights wreathing in pain, but once I focused my mind on praying and the healing of others who need God's loving touch, did I myself began to feel blessed and touched by the hand of God. I do thank you for your posts as they are most thought provoking. And it makes "us"....who call ourselves Christians dig deeper to try to find out why. (((Love thy neighbor as thyself))). Peace and blessings!! ~K


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RichardSpeaks 7 years ago from Portland, OR Metro Area Author

You have indeed gotten the point. When one looks at the Book of Job as a lesson in trust, in faith, it takes on a much deeper meaning. Rather than seeing it as a weird god doing a weird trip on a poor believer, it becomes evident, when studied closely, that it means just as you surmise. The Buddha taught that life is suffering. Jesus seemed to agree. But Jesus was quick to point out in many places that as we place our trust in the Father, or the Creative Source, we will find that our journey through the suffering is much more bearable. We are continually blessed if we will but recognize that fact. Will we hurt sometimes? Of course. Life is tough. No doubt about that. But there is a place within our hearts where the Spirit resides. When we get in touch with that place, our trip through life becomes a joy. And we then are free to share our joy with world without compulsion!

What a trip.


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hanging out 6 years ago

"You're on target. Especially when you consider that God, who is supposed to know everything, should have to test ANYONE in order to prove ANYTHING. God should have know that Job would react as he did."

Here is where the flaw rears its head. God wasn't trying to prove job, God was correcting job. Job was a man who got up early and sacrificed IN CASE his family had sinned. Job relied on works salvation,

Job 32:1 So these three men ceased to answer Job, because [b]Job was righteous in his own eyes.[/b]

When God comes on the scene we can quickly see him humbling Job, acknowledging Job has some things right and dismantling the faith Job has in his own works and God begins to turn Jobs looks upward. We can all follow our own religious system but that is not what God wants, He wants what we have faith in to be Him.


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RichardSpeaks 6 years ago from Portland, OR Metro Area Author

hanging out: Why does the Creator of the universe want us to have faith in 'him'? Does he need it? Is he the jealous god he claims to be? Does he pour out his wrath, as he says he does? Did he really not know that Adam and Eve would eat the fruit? And did he not know that Job was doing his best? (Interestingly enough, once he had done his chop job on job, your god did not bring Job's family back from the dead. Why did they have to suffer?) Oh, and the icing on the cake: if he was so concerned with the 'sin' of the human, why did he save a remnant of that fallen creature on the Ark, only to start the whole process all over again, requiring Jesus to come down and die to save us all over again? Why didn't The Flood finish what Jesus had to come and finish? Why can't this god of yours get it right? And no fair saying that we simply must trust because we're too stupid to really understand. That's a cop-out. If we're made in the image and likeness of this god, then surely we have to capacity to understand what the heck he was and is up to.

Your god demands too much.


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hanging out 6 years ago

on the evil spirits sent by God. Yes! Notice that God did not call upon satan to do this work of evil. God took care of it. These stories are different in nature.

1 Samuel 16:14 But the Spirit of the LORD DEPARTED from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.

All the samuels are the same story. Above i have copied the best to reference to make my point. When a spirit of the Lord departs, what is left behind? A man without the spirit of God, perhaps not feeling quite himself. I do not accept the portrayal of a spirit in and spirit out again, in again, out again event. I believe that when God removed his spirit, Saul reverted into a less than godly man. What i do enjoy to notice about this is there is absolutely no concept of satan doing anything here, God is handling it.

1 Kings 22:19 and 2 chronicles are the same story.

"And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I SAW the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left". Micaiah the prophet is explaining a vision that he saw... the Lord does not actually sit on a throne, for example. The Lord here is God not Jesus. This is a vision experience of Micaiah.

There are no examples of disembodied spirits floating around in the OT. People who contacted the dead were charlatans. The bible says where spirits go after they die, to be reserved until judgment and they cannot be summoned again.

Judges 9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech:

abimelech founded his kingdom on treachery and is himself undone by treachery. God is often ironic that way. The hebrew for spirit is often used to describe an attitude or disposition. As with Saul and the pharoah of egypt.. God hardened the heart.

i liked this hub because evil is not a separate force from God. In the beginning God says, He knows evil and now man knows evil.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

The jewish people had a different concept before their exile to babylon, capture by persians and then roman governorship. They were grasping at straws after the temple was destroyed for a second time and they completely lost their way while in babylon. Amazing hardship for a people who would not believe. Shall God deal any differently with the people of north america? I think not.


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RichardSpeaks 6 years ago from Portland, OR Metro Area Author

Thanks for your comments.

The God of the Jewish Bible seems more like a Giant and Angry Dictator than a loving and caring Creator. If he had wanted everyone ever created to worship him forever, he should have created puppets rather than human brains. When you have free will, you may not choose what someone else tells you to choose.

Don't blame the creature for being the way it is. Blame the creator. It could have been different if the creator had so desired.

Blessings.


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hanging out 6 years ago

so you disagree with my previous comment? If you want an angry dictator imagine what would happen if God revealed himself for all to see. Lets run that one.

2011 jan 1.. God reveals himself, the whole world sees him. actually i have a hub about that called show yourself God. You will see that if God showed himself he would be much more a dictator than he is hidden and because he is hidden we do indeed exercise free will.


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RichardSpeaks 6 years ago from Portland, OR Metro Area Author

I do disagree with your previous comments. And, there actually is a very simple way to see God face to face. Simply look into your own mirror. After all, we are made in the image and likeness of the Creator, are we not? We must then bear some resemblance, wouldn't you think? Like father, like son/daughter and all that? In reality, the One Presence is indeed within us. When they asked Jesus where the Kingdom was, he said not to look over there or back over here, for the Kingdom of God is within you.

You are the face of the Creator made manifest upon the Earth. Blessings to you, my fellow divine one!


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hanging out 6 years ago

an image and likeness are not carbon copies. So no i disagree that we will see the 'spirit' image of god when we look into a mirror, we will see how he created us, our flesh. God is not flesh. He wrapped himself in flesh (jesus) but god is spirit and spirit bears no physical likeness, neither is it a clear image of flesh. They are two different things. The image and likeness are internal. So you are wrong on this account.


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RichardSpeaks 6 years ago from Portland, OR Metro Area Author

The entire universe is energy. We are energy. What we see when we look out into the world is an illusion--a grand illusion, indeed. Nothing is truly solid. In fact, you might call the entire universe a spiritual universe. God is spirit, the universe is spirit, we are spirit. The fact that the world seems solid doesn't mean it actually is. Matter and spirit (energy) are the same substance. You are God in expression. Be grateful for that fact. Be grateful you are not some separate lump of flesh that can't be imbued with God except by some 2000 year old Jew who may or may not have been a Son of God.

But I know you prefer to believe that Original Sin entered the world through humans and created a separation between them and the Creator. And that a savior was needed to bridge that gap. And that those who do not accept your version of that story are probably bound for eternal separation from God. You might call it hell; I don't know. But know this...

You are and always will be an expression of the One Power. You can never be separated from your source, no matter what book or spiritual path you choose to follow. You are energy, living energy, connected forever to your Source. Now that is something to rejoice about, right?

Isn't that better than thinking 95% of humanity is bound for hell, not because they're bad people, but because they don't believe the way you do?

All is God.


Vladimir Uhri 6 years ago

Richard, I do not know if you had chance to study Hebrew. According to Dr. Young author of literal translation of Bible and extensive Concordance claimes that Hebrew language has causative and premissive tens. It means it should be read: God alowed an evil spirit to go. It does not necessary believe He send them. Spirtits like to go if they have free path.


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RichardSpeaks 6 years ago from Portland, OR Metro Area Author

Vladmir: Thank you for you comment. I understand that Hebrew iterations will be different than most of the English/German/Spanish/French/Russian translations. The whole point of the article is to demonstrate how easy it is to get caught in literalism. The entire Bible should be studied as allegory and legend rather than direct dictation from some deity. Each body of believers will have its own way of viewing and accepting the stories and so-called history in the Bible. They can't all be right. Agreed?

Thanks again for commenting.


Steve Martinez 4 years ago

We are not the children of god when we were born into this world we are only gods creation. The bible tells in in Eph chapter 1 we were born with and evil nature so the evil nature was what god created.Not an evil spirit so where do evil spirits come from, I dont believe there are evil spirits but an evil nature that god created.The human being is what is evil


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RichardSpeaks 4 years ago from Portland, OR Metro Area Author

We are as God--or evolution--intended--nothing more, nothing less. The universe is as it should be and must be. Must be? Yes. Or it would be some other way.


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RichardSpeaks 4 years ago from Portland, OR Metro Area Author

martinnetsims: You may be at the wrong hub. Have no idea what your comment refers to. Sorry...

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