Where is Hell Located?

Authors Note: The Word of God is my final authority, which I believe is perfectly preserved in the King James Version of the Holy Bible. If you have a different view, or no view on a final authority, naturally you may not agree with these conclusions. That’s ok, we can still be friends as far as I am concerned. With that said, I would ask you to acknowledge that hell is a biblical concept. It did not come from science, it came from the bible, thus I see no valid reason why biblical references should be casually set aside or denied when one asks a biblical question.

Where is Hell?

Many people will tell you it is right now on earth. Some say it in jest, and some are quite serious. However, both are biblically mistaken.

First, let’s look at a story Jesus tells about a man who went to hell. Some will say this story is a parable and not literal. I completely disagree… when Jesus told a parable, he always said first, “I tell you a parable", also a parable illustrated a point, if this is a parable, what point does it illustrate? It is not a parable, it is a picture of a literal hell and Jesus does not say he is telling a parable, he simply tells the story.

“There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: and there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, and desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; and in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.” Luke 16:19-26

In this story two people died, a very rich man whose name is not given, and a beggar named Lazarus. The rich man goes to hell and Lazarus is carried to a place called Abraham’s Bosom. The man in hell can see and speak with Abraham, but they are divided by a huge gulf over which they cannot pass.

Abrahams Bosom and Hell are in the same general location, but divided. Hell is also a place of flame and torment. So we see that Hell and Abraham’s Bosom are located in the same general place, but are divided from each other, but we still have no clue where this place is. That’s ok for now. The point for now is Hell and Abraham’s Bosom are across from one another.

So where is Hell?

The Lord Jesus Christ was crucified with two thieves. One of the thieves repented of his sin and asked Jesus to remember him after death. Jesus said to him, “To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.” - Luke 23:43.

So they are going to heaven?

No. Jesus said, to paradise. Paradise and heaven are two different places. Both Jesus and the thief were going to die soon and they knew it. But Jesus had also said to His disciples, “as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” Matthew 12:40.

The heart of the earth… this is where Jesus stayed until his resurrection, in Abraham’s Bosom because Jesus was also to be the first fruit of the dead before any man; thus Abraham’s Bosom is paradise, located in the heart of the earth, across from hell.

Turning to Ephesians 4:9-10, We find another piece of the picture showing where Jesus was before the resurrection.
“(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)”

So now some are wondering, why didn’t God’s people like Lazarus and Abraham, go to heaven when they died, instead of going to paradise in the center of the earth? Its simple. Those who died before Jesus and were saved, believed on the promise of his blood covering their sins before it happened. However, until Jesus died and shed his blood for their sins, they could not enter heaven. They had to wait for Christ to pay for their sins with his blood. Today, when a saved person dies, they go straight to heaven, they do not have to wait in Abrahams Bosom. For lack of a better phrase, Abraham’s Bosom is now permanently closed, but right next door, hell is still open for business 24/7.

Here are some other verses that indicate that hell is down below:

In the old testament the prophet Isaiah says, “Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming … thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.” Isaiah 14:9, 15.

“And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them: and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.” Numbers 16:30-33

“But those that seek my soul, to destroy it, shall go into the lower parts of the earth.” Psalms. 63:9

“The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.” Psalms 9:17

“Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them. Psalms 55:15

But thou, O God, shalt bring them down into the pit of destruction: bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days; but I will trust in thee.” Psalms 55:23

It’s pretty basic that since paradise “was” in the heart of the earth, and hell is right next door, that hell is in the center of the earth too. But Hell was not made for mankind, it was made for Satan and his angels. Matthew 25:41 However, those who turn away from God get to join Satan in the pit of fire.

But Wait! There is more! Hell is not the final place for Satan, his angels and all those who turn from God. In the end, hell is cast into the Lake of Fire. Where is the lake of fire? I have no idea… the sun maybe?

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. – Revelation 20:10

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Rev. 20:14

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Rev. 20:15

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Be Not Deceived...

I met a guy one time years ago, he told me he was going to hell and going to be Satan's best friend. I think he was serious, or he thought it would be like that anyway. Misconception... there is a lot of misconception about hell. You see paintings and art work of Hell and you often see devils and dragons tossing lost souls into a pit of fire, torturing them or whatever. The point is you see devils and dragons etc., and they are not being tortured, they are doing the torturing. This is not biblical.

The devil and his angels will not be torturing anyone. They will not be buddy-buddy with anyone; they will not be enjoying themselves with some kind of retreat somewhere hidden behind the flames where they can relax, have sex, play pool, drink a cold beer and hang out. They will not have set of keys to let someone they favor into the back room. They will suffer far greater than those unfortunate enough to find themselves in hell with them.

Ouch! Doesn’t sound very fun to me. I think I’ll hang my hat on Jesus Christ. If it turns out to be a bunch of baloney, so what… I die and that’s the end of it. Why would anyone risk it?

And why would God throw someone in Hell?

Hell is not the measure of your sins and what you did wrong in life. Eternity in hell is the measure of what you refuse in Christ’s salvation. If you don’t want Jesus Christ to pay for your sins, God will let you pay for them. God doesn’t throw anyone into hell. Given that God provided a free ticket into heaven for anyone who wants it, if they refuse the ticket (which is Jesus Christ), they put themselves in hell, not God.

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saddlerider1 6 years ago

Harlan your quote"Ouch! Doesn’t sound very fun to me. I think I’ll hang my hat on Jesus Christ. If it turns out to be a bunch of baloney, so what… I die and that’s the end of it. Why would anyone risk it?

The ones who risk it are those of other faiths,not every faith hangs their hat on believing in Jesus Christ as their ticket to heaven. This hub should stir up some controversy between the believers and the non believers:0) Politics and Religion the two most discussed topics on our planet. Was it Marx who said and I quote." Religion is the Opium of the Masses." I like this post Harlan your a man of convictions. I vote this hub UP let's see some more views on this subject.


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julie58 6 years ago from Fareham, UK

Harlan

I'm not religious at all, but have strong spiritual beliefs but I believe that hell is what we make here on earth & has nothing to do with the afterlife which awaits us

Great hub, should give others some food for thought ...


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Harlan Colt 6 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

Saddlerider1

My intent was not to slam other faiths, rather let people know where I was coming from. If someone disagrees with me, Its ok with me, were still friends as far as I am concerned. Heck, half my family belongs to what I believe to be a soul-stealing cult and I believe they are going straight to hell if they don't wake up, but I still love them very much. The post was meant to be a biblical account of where hell is... I added the biblical perspective of "WHY" hell because I see the question asked so many times, and since I was on the subject of hell... If I was Muslim, Jewish, or Pagan, I would have given that perpective too, but I'm not. Sorry, didn't mean to ruffle any feathers.


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Harlan Colt 6 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

Julie58,

I am not familiar with any beliefs like that, but I do have days where I feel like hell is here on earth. The last couple years have been hell on me for sure. I've gotten more grey hair than I care to admit.

Thanks for posting!

-Harlan


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saddlerider1 6 years ago

Hey Harlan no offense taken at all. Religious and spiritual convictions will always raise eyebrows, heck mine are starting to curl and speaking of gray hair, I have enough of my own as well. Pardner I can share some hell I've been through the past 10 years, but will spare you the hurt. I have moved forward in my life and have forgiven, but never forgotten. God be with you and keep posting, you have the writers edge and talent.


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mystere 6 years ago from Southern California

For those who have wondered about Hell, in the original manuscripts, there were 2 different words that translate to Hell: HADES, and Gehanna. Hades is the one that is used in most of the Scriptures; it is an unpleasant detaining place which will be cast into Gehanna...the Lake Of Fire. I'm not sure if I spelled Gehanna correctly, but it is the place of everlasting fire, where Satan and his angels will end up. When Adam sinned in the Garden of Eden, he passed on the tendencies to all of us. We all have that sin nature, and will perish when we die, unless we ask Jesus to forgive our sins, and then let Jesus lead our lives. It is written in John 14:6 "Jesus answered 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'" Jesus told us that he is the only way into Heaven, that He alone is the one to forgive our sins, and give us life after death. There is no other way into heaven!

To prove that he is the only way, Jesus did many miracles, and described both heaven and hell. About the rich man and Lazarus, if you note how Jesus tells parables, notice that this is the only time he ever used a specific name of a person who died, and went to paradise. All others a stories with unnamed people. Lazarus was a real beggar who died, and the rich man was a man whom Jesus did not name, so that he would not gossip about anyone who did evil. He did not give out the name of the rich man, so that the descendants of that man would not be humiliated in public, and had Jesus given out his name, he would be sinning by spreading gossip. For those of you who read the scriptures about the Rich Man And Lazarus, pay close attention to the details, since Jesus could easily have sinned,and sent himself to Hell, but he avoided the temptation to gossip!

Harlan, great post!


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Harlan Colt 6 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

Saddlerider1

Thank you sir, I enjoy reading your replies as much as your hubs. Best wishes to you my friend.

- Harlan


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Harlan Colt 6 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

Mystere,

I am familiar with Hades, however, I tend to avoid using it as a substitute for hell because in some of your New Age belief's hades is where you go to party for eternity when you die. Some belief's even look forward to going to Hades. Hell, however, there is little confusion really with other belief's they all pretty much have a mutual understanding that hell is eternal damnation, even if they don't believe in it.

I enjoyed your explanation about Jesus not naming the rich man. I had never heard or seen that perspective before in my studies, but it makes sense. And had Jesus sinned, we'd all be in hell too. However, of Jesus had sinned, what about Abraham and Lazarus sitting there in Abraham's Bosom? Would they have suddenly found themselves in hell too? Interesting...

Thanks for posting.

- Harlan


Hell N0 6 years ago

Where is hell? I answered that question over a year ago.

http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/The-Locati...


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Internetwriter62 6 years ago from Marco Island, Florida

God Bless you, Harlan for having the conviction to write this hub. People need to be warned. I have been a Christian for many years and yes there is no thought more frightful than the thought of hearing God say "depart from Me I never knew you." I know that no one deserves to go to heaven on their own merit and only through Jesus can one hear "Well done good and faithful servant enter into the joy of the Lord" I hope to hear those words when I am called home. I often have to ask God for the grace to act rightly everyday, since I often fail, yet I know His mercies are renewed everyday.

This is a wonderful hub, and a great evangelizing tool. Perhaps you do stir up some controversy, then again didn't Jesus and the Apostles and Paul, do the same. God's work is a rescue operation, and for souls to rescued there will be opposition, we must be strong. May God keep you strong Harlan. I Rated up, excellent hub.


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Harlan Colt 6 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

Thank you IW62,

A little uplift is nice, but praise the Lord, for without Christ I am nothing but a filthy rag... actually I think I redefine filthy rag, sigh...

Thank you sis for the encouragement, God bless you.

- Harlan


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stars439 6 years ago from Louisiana, The Magnolia and Pelican State.

Enjoyed your hub. GBY.


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Harlan Colt 6 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

Stars439,

Thank you for reading my hubs.

- Harlan


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svetits 6 years ago from United Kingdom

Well written with the power of the Spirit. Cheers brother, tell it exactly the way it is.


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Harlan Colt 6 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

Thank you svetits, I appreciate you reading my hub.

- Harlan


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago

Pretty sobering account here my friend. I personally am an annihilationist—I believe the sinners who did not repent and believe will be burned up by God's eternal fire, not burned for eternity. Because there will be no sin or unforgiven sinners in the new creation and the saints will walk on the ashes of the dead and gone.


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Harlan Colt 6 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

James,

I see that interpretation too, but I remember there is one verse that put me on the side of eternal punishment, but I don't remember it just now - it's still sad to think about. I hope you are correct for those who don't make it.

Good to hear from you my friend.

- Harlan


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rdhowell 6 years ago from North America

2 comments (for now) on things you say:

1. "Authors Note: The Holy Bible (KJV) is my final authority."

Are you a KJV-Onlyist?

2. "With that said, I would ask you to acknowledge that hell is a biblical concept. It did not come from science, it came from the bible..."

I cannot acknowledge something that is false.

"Hell" did not come from the Bible - in terms of the origin of the idea of a place of punishment in the afterlife.

That idea existed in the Greek culture prior to the New Testament era. And, just as importantly, the idea does not exist in the Hebrew Bible.

How much research have you done exactly?


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Harlan Colt 6 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

RD,

Answering your questions:

1. I could have worded that better. Christ himself is my Final Authority, but, Yes, I believe the King James Bible to be God's Preserved Word on earth, a conclusion made with careful study and consideration - not causually by any means - an apologetic hub I intend to write soon but cannot as I am offshore working on this oil spill and have very limited time. Someone has presented me the question here on hubpages and I intend to respond when I get back to shore.

2. Hell: the idea does not come from the Bible...

You say hell does not come from the Bible. To back this up, you say it existed in greek culture before the New Testement. Then to back that up, you say, hell is not in the first 5 books of the Old Testement.

Well the Book of Isaiah, Daniel, Jeremiah, Psalms, all mention hell and they were written before the New Testement too. Maybe, the Greeks got it from there?

Then, you try to sound all-knowing and smarty pants by asking how much research I have done.

Well, ya gotta get up pretty early in the mornin to pull a fast one on ol' Harlan.

1. I believe you error friend, for us alive here today, Hell comes from the Bible... well unless you have an NIV - then hell has probably been omitted or moved to a footnote in tiny little print at the bottom of the page. Since my audience is not composed of ancient people from Greece before Christ came, but rather people here alive today, for me, them and us... the understanding of hell for us - comes from the bible - today, yesterday, 100 years ago, 200 years ago, etc., etc.

Thus you're little point about the Greeks talking about hell before Christ was born - establishes nothing. So what. Isaiah was talking about hell - in scripture long before the Christ came too.

I have never heard a preacher say... "well, hold on, I know you're bible says hell here in this verse... but we need to look up what the ancient greeks thought first because after-all they are ancient and have a mystical persona about them and we should regard them as a final authority on this because.... I mean look at all the naked statues - they obviously knew how to party and to disregard that would be a huge mistake."

The Hebrew Bible is not my final authority, though it is part of the history of my God's character and his hand in dealing with his followers and enemies; it adds understanding and appreciation to the price paid to save a wretched filty rag... like me.

How much research have I done exactly?

Sounds a bit smug... but no matter...

Before I answer that, I ask you to tell me something...

How much is enough for you to believe and accept anything I say?

Perhaps I have not done enough for you to believe anything I say - or perhaps no amount of what I say will convince you... if such be the case, then what is the point? For the fun of a friendly debate over differences in faith? I can do that too, but lets make no pretenses one is going to really convince the other of anything - if indeed such be the case.

With all that said, the hell of our understanding, time and culture - came from the Bible, why would I speak from the perspective of the ancient dead when they are all dead and buried? I was not alive during the ancient greek culture. You are trying to twist something irrelevant into the picture.

I can walk over to my Bible and show you hell - in both the old and new testement. AND get this... I can get a bible 200 years old... and hell is still in it! I can probably find a bible close to 400 years old and hell will be in it and if you want to get knit-picky, I can find bible transcripts a couple thousand years old with hell in it too.

The point is, "we," alive today get our concept of hell from the Bible, not dead and buried Greeks.

Are you saying that because the Greeks believed in some type of hell before Jesus came - that the bible is a bunch of baloney? OR that only the Law of Moses is God's word?


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davidkaluge 5 years ago

“I wrote a hub ‘why is there need for hell?’ We all have our religious view and it will be wrong for you to say, with certainty, that other views of hell are wrong while you are right. This is because others will say the same. What it simply means is that you say you are right because you believe you are right and so do others. It then means that what you say is as you believe and I do not hold it against you or against others that would not agree with you. People will continue to hold to a doctrine until the see reasons to stop holding to it.

Many people should ask why there is a need for hell. If Jesus is the only way to heaven it means that heaven was empty before his coming or people got to it via others means? “

Oh! Why an unchanging God must then changed the way to his kingdom?

You only know as you believe and desire that others believe. We cannot say with absolute certainty about god and his kingdom.

It means many other religions are going to hell and they do not know it”

By N.K David

Author of the book,

“It is time we truly know why Jesus wept at the grave of Lazarus”

A must read for all humanity,

Published by author house, available on online stores worldwide


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Harlan Colt 5 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

David,

Thank you for your comments on my hub. I would answer you in this manner: The Bible tells me to put forth the Word of God and it shall not return void. That means, God is going to back up his word. I need not worry about backing it up, he will. I do not know how he will back up His word, but I do have faith that he will.

Again, as I have written above, Hell is not the measure of punishment for one's sin. All sin has been paid for. Eternity in hell is the opposite measure of what you refused in Jesus Christ. People want to focus on eternity in hell, but that's not the focus here. How valuable is God's free gift of eternal life?

Let me express the idea with mathematics.

Let us say Salvation is equal to the numeric value of 10.

Thus: salvation = +10. AND the opposite equivalent is -10, or hell. Hell is the opposite measure of what you refuse in Christ's salvation. Thus if hell is eternal fire and brimstone, eternal torment, sadness and loneliness, wailing and gnashing of teeth, then the opposite of that - is how great salvation is.

I am happy to look at your book. If you want to post another comment and include the link to your hub and book, I will approve it.

Best Wishes

- Harlan


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davidkaluge 5 years ago

Firstly, I must start by saying that you are a friend and a good gently man. Thanks for finding time to view my book. It can be found on authorhouse.com or authorhouse.co.uk and any other online store worldwide but I have include the powells link

http://www.powells.com/biblio/61-9781438923260-1

http://hubpages.com/@davidkaluge

like I said before when it comes to religion, it is always a matter of acceptance as one beliefs.

If God decides to go back on his words well he has to change some things as along the line to meet the new method. But I also asked the fate of those that were before christ. That does not mean that I hold you against your words but it shows that people have other views. For instance the Jews still teach something different. That is why we haer various versions of hell and each claim to be right. That is the point I am trying to make.

Take care my friend and nice to have your hand in friendship


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Harlan Colt 5 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

Thank you David, I think I would enjoy a glass of wine and some breaking of the bread with you, especially with REAL butter... regardless what you believe about God. I do thump some bible now and again, but I have a diversity of other interests as well.

I just read some reviews of your book. It scored 5 of 5 stars so far! Sounds Awesome. I may order it and do a book review on it. We'll see how much money I have - since I got laid-off.

- Best Wishes always

- Harlan


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Ben Snowden 5 years ago from Peoria, IL

Your hubs are very in-depth and well-done. God bless!


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Harlan Colt 5 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

Ben,

Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate you stopping by for a read.

- Best Wishes

- Harlan


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kp61248@yahoo.com 5 years ago from Naples, Florida

THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS BIBLE STUDY

Another passage of scripture very widely used to support the doctrine of inherent immortality is the account of the rich man and Lazarus. The reader is encourage to read Luke16:19-31 at this time. Two views are taken of this scripture: 1. Some say it is a literal history of two men, others say, 2. It is a fictitious story used as a parable to teach a valuable lesson. The Rich man and Lazarus account is used in today's Christian doctrine to prove two doctrinal principles: 1. That man is conscious between death and the resurrection, and, 2. That men go to their reward or punishment as soon as they die. Let us review this passage and see if, indeed this scripture supports the 'traditional death viewpoint' illustrated previously.

Luke 16:22;

"And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom."

If this is an account of actuality, then we are compelled to believe that the beggar who died was carried bodily with all his rags and sores to the bosom of Abraham. It says nothing of the beggar receiving immortality or an immortal condition for his mortal flesh full of sores and sickness. If we are going to be literal, we must be literal all the way. Notice, now what happens to the rich man;

Luke 16:22-24;

"The rich man also died, and was buried; and in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame."

There are some that venture to answer that it was not the real material Lazarus but rather his soul. In this account there is no mention of the soul of the rich man or of Lazarus. We have no right to make such an assumption/addition to God's Word. Both persons are depicted as being bodily present in the place of their rewards ("his finger" "my tongue").

This passage of the Rich Man and Lazarus has no reference to future punishment. It has no reference to the condition of man between death and the resurrection. What Christ was referring to is introduced in Luke 15:2, where Jesus addresses the attitudes of the scribes and Pharisees, "And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man (Jesus) receiveth sinners, and eateth with them." This particular parable, the Rich Man and Lazarus, was not the only parable used to point out the attitudes exemplified by the Jewish leaders of that time. Jesus did not deny this charge. To justify His actions Jesus introduced several parables.

a. Luke 15:3-7, is the parable of the lost sheep. Just as the Pharisees put forth effort to bring a lost sheep into the fold and when found they rejoiced, Jesus said, "Likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance." Verse 7

b. Luke 15:8-10, records the parable of the lost piece of money. The Pharisees would agree that the woman should search for the lost coin and when found it was cause for rejoicing. Again Jesus repeated the statement about joy in heaven over one sinner who repents.

c. Luke 15:11-32, gives the parable of the prodigal son. Here Christ made clear His point against the Pharisees. They put forth effort to reclaim sheep and money and were joyful when these were found. But when lost men came to Christ to be saved they acted like the elder brother and were offended.

d. Luke 16:1-13, records the parable of the unjust steward. But the Pharisees refused to be impressed by Christ's words. They opposed Him and had no sympathy with His work of saving men. Verse 14 says, "And they derided him."

In Luke 16:15-18, Christ mentioned the enduring nature of His law. But even though the Pharisees were sticklers for the law they were rejecting Christ the remedy for their sins. The law cannot save. Christ can. But the Pharisees refused to comply with any such arrangement.

e. So in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, the consequences of the result of the Jews rejecting Christ, are vividly illustrated. The term 'hell' used in this passage of scripture is the word used to mean 'the grave', not an eternal place of torment. The Greek numbered word used is 86, HADES (hah'-dace), which means the grave.

Looking at this passage objectively, what are some of the lessons taught here?

a. It is in this life that men determine their destiny.

b. There is no probationary period after death.

c. By his own choice man fixes a gulf between himself and God.

d. The parable draws a contrast between the wealthy who do not make God their trust and the poor who have trusted God.

The great 'gulf' that existed between the two opposing forces in this parable can mean only one thing. It was a gulf of disobedience. Abraham had believed and served God in faith and obedience. Even though the Jews were his descendants, yet they were rejecting the Messiah, whom Abraham accepted by faith. "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad." John 8:56.

Jesus came to break down the wall between the Jews and Gentiles. He came to give all an equal opportunity for salvation. This parable has no reference to a future punishment or the condition of man between death and the resurrection. There is no support here for the doctrine of the immortality of the soul.

The only way to obtain life in another world after death is by the resurrection. Paul says, "If the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised . . . then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished." 1 Corinthians 15:16,18. Let us prepare now to be ready at His appearing.


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Daniel J. Neumann 5 years ago from Harrisburg, Pa

Harlan,

I enjoyed reading this hub. I also believe in the existence of hell. I think, in some ways, dying might be like dreaming, and so we can have nightmares if we feel bad about ourselves. Calling on a savior like Jesus Christ or Nembutsu or Krishna or any other deity promising salvation can give us the first thing we lose when we go to hell (and the only thing left in Pandora’s box): hope. I wonder if Jesus would be upset with me if I called on all of them, if I feel like they’re all related.

I'm a Universalist Unitarian Christian—which basically means I believe all the religions are true in some way. I prefer to see connections between gods of pagan myths and angels of Judeo-Christian myths. I believe all of these myths are true and real because, when you die (I’m guessing), your senses will cease and whatever is you won't be accompanied by reality anymore. You would be stuck with whatever ideas you still cling to as your sentience fades.

After that, maybe we die, maybe we're reincarnated, maybe we go to paradise, maybe we become at peace and oneness with the divine, or maybe it’s like Einstein said (that the faster you go, the slower time gets; so that, conversely, the slower you travel, the faster time gets) and time is so relative it never feels like we die. I'm not sure. That's why reading the Bible, Koran, Vedic texts like the Bhagavad-Gita, Buddha's dharma, etc can all inform us of what this complex entity known as God really looks like. I sometimes wonder if the answer isn't all around us, waiting to recognized, if we are truly made in His image.

Thanks for sharing this,

Dan


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Dave Mathews 5 years ago from NORTH YORK,ONTARIO,CANADA

I love the story of Lazarus and the rich man in Hell it shows us that in truth there is such a place and allows us to peak into what some have to look forward to if they do not become followers of Jesus and born again.


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Harlan Colt 5 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

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Dear KP61248

I am one who believes the story of Lazarus is not a parable.

Jesus never said, "I tell you a parable..." with this example.

This is a literal picture of a true event. A lot of Christians want to do away with hell.

I myself would want to do away with hell, I wish it didn't exist. All my heart and conscience wishes

it did not exist, but that does not get me around the scriptures that refer and describe

a literal eternal hell.

You say if this story is "real" and not a parable, "we are compelled to believe that the

beggar who died was carried bodily with all his rags and sores to the bosom of Abraham."

The Bible is clear about what happens to our physical bodies when we die.

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

If God can speak Adam into existence from the dust, then he can resurrect all of us

from the dust as well, even the very same dust we have become if he so chooses. If I die

and become dust and the wind and water etc carried that dust all over the earth so it was

scattered all about, God could find every single particle and ressurect me from that very

same dust with the mere sound of his voice.

I do not dismiss your positions here. If this is indeed a parable, then I think you have

given a very good explanation of the particulars. I simply don't believe that its a parable.

Certianly, this issue is not predominately a salvation issue, though for some it could be

an issue that affects their faith-walk.

Especially the doctrine of the Grave vs Hell. TO do away with hell entirely and claim it is

a mistranslation of some kind is a very slippery slope. TO teach one to believe

there is no hell but merely a grave, when or if in fact there is a hell, is a grave injustice,

no pun intended.

If God preserved his Word and I believe he did, why do I need to look up Greek and Hebrew

when I have it right here in English? If the translators were indeed lead by the spirit of God

and I believe they were, then I need not look up any ancient pre-translated words.

Today in our language we have many words that are the same word, with a different meaning depending

upon the context in which it is used. Surely the same is true in other languages.

I believe God preserved His word as he promised he would, and we need not look

up ancient foreign languages to delve the meaning of scripture. While I admit it can be helpful

in some cases, it can be equally confusing if you do not know Greek and Hebrew fluently and understand

how the same word can be given a different meaning based on its contextual usage. Simply looking up

words in a foreign language looses that insight and opportunity.

I prefer to trust the original translators who I believe were lead in the spirit and fulfilling

God's promise to preserve his Word in our language. I know a lot of imperfection can be pointed

out about various translators, but, were not Moses and David also sinners? God still used them

to document his word.

I believe one is better off to STUDY the word to show themselves approved unto God....

Chew on it awhile, compare it to other verses and pray for God's guidence, then we need not

be ashamed rightly dividing the Word of truth.

With that said, I largely agree with your response, I just differ with you on this as a parable,

and "hell." However, you make a some points I intend to study out more.

Thank you for your post and your rebuttle. I enjoy this kind of interaction, it helps us all.

- See you in the air

- Harlan


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Harlan Colt 5 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

@ Daniel,

My friend, you have a lot of guesses and maybes regarding some very important subjects a person of faith needs to know. God does not want you to not know. He wants you to know and to know it so well that you walk in faith and lead others as well.

While it may be disrespectful, forgive me if it is, I suggest you drop all those other hogwash faiths and pick up a Bible with a Gospel that contains a God who loved you personally enough he would have died for you, if you were the only soul on earth, to save you from an eternal hell. All those other religions do not have a god who has done anything for you but require your time and attention in hopes for some scrap of perceptional gain.

Jesus Christ was God and became and man and died for your sins so that you can have eternal life, He wants you to have an abundant life, rich and fulfilled, not one chasing after guesses and maybes. God says you may know that ye have eternal life... you can know it and you can walk in it and that is eternal security no other religion can offer you or take away from you.

I pray you stop wasting what little precious time you have left fooling around with fat-bloated elephant head gods and gods with boobs and 8 arms and a vase on their head and get to know the real God who loves you enough to die for you.

Now thats a GOD worth having! Don't you agree?

I pray for you my friend.

- best Wishes

- Harlan


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Harlan Colt 5 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

@ Dave Mathews,

Praise the Lord Dave, very well said. If I may add that hell is just temporary, Revelations says, Hell will be cast into the eternal lake of fire - which is another place entirely and it sounds even worse. I might take a ride in someone's messy car and think its a pig pen, but if that car drives off into the lake and its 400 feet deep, I would much rather be in that car on the road and smelling that dirty mess, than at the bottom of the lake. We tend to think hell is the worse place there is, but guess what... there is one more level that's even worse - the lake of fire! NO THANKS!

Which makes me wonder, if kp61248@yahoo.com says hell is the grave, then what does he say the lake of fire is? Is the grave casted into it? Interesting...

Ok God... you have my attention, I am listening.

- best Wishes

- Harlan


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Guanta 5 years ago from New York City

Thank you Harlan Colt, I commend you for your convictions. Thank you for your service and thank you for being true grit.


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Harlan Colt 5 years ago from the Rocky Mountains Author

@Guanta,

Thank you for stopping by my little hub. I appreciate it very much. We are all a work in progress.

- Harlan


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Kitaine 4 years ago from Pennsboro, West Virginia

You have a very well written article, and I love how you don't just tell a story you base it off of scripture. The KJV is a great version of the Bible for many many years it was the only way that many people who didn't speak Latin to understand God's word to read the Bible - however let me introduce you to something called an interlinear translation. Go online so something like...

http://www.biblestudytools.com/interlinear-bible/p...

and search the word hell in the KJV or any other version that you would like...see what that word was in the orginal Hebrew, Greek or Latin and what it means...and see if this changes your views any...


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voice of one 4 years ago from Illinois

Good hub my friend. The lake of fire will be in the center of the New Earth. Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.


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Civil War Bob 4 years ago from Glenside, Pennsylvania

Good Hub, Harlan...voted up, interesting. See you at the Marriage Feast, if not before!


Mattie 4 years ago

Harlan, this has been such an encouragement to me! The state of our world puts my stomach in knots. So many people are quick to deny Christ, and because of it they will face a Hell's eternity. When I try and explain salvation or even bring up the things of God most people could care less. I pray that the hub that you have shared with us will only help me become a better soul winner for Christ. My heart breaks over the lost souls that won't listen! I too pray that I would study the bible every day to show my self approved so that I might be able to rightly divide the word of God to help teach others.


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SwordofManticorE 3 years ago from Burlington

This hub is spiritual terrorism at its best. Two thumbs down.


newenglandsun 3 years ago

Sword, you think everything is spiritual terrorism.


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SwordofManticorE 3 years ago from Burlington

Do you always stalk those you hate?


newenglandsun 3 years ago

That depends.

By the way, I'd agree with you that this hub presents spiritual terrorism. Hell is not something used to generate fear into others when properly understood. Hell is a logical consequence of desiring loneliness over company.

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