Who Is the Biblical Jesus? - Part 3

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Opening Thoughts

This series was spawned after I read an article by a fellow hubber entitled, The Preconceived Notions Concerning the Gospel of John, Chapter 1.There is certainly no malicious intent in the writing of these articles, but I do feel a little background might be helpful.

It became clear to me that he believes Jesus is just a man. I wanted to be sure I understood so I asked. His statement, "Jesus Christ, who walked the earth was a mortal man, not God incarnate" sums up his position.

In the process of time he asked me for proof texts to show that Jesus was God incarnate. My response was that I will address it in a future article – thus this series. As I stand before God, my purpose is not to debate the Scriptures. They are what they are. My purpose is not to prove I am right and other contributors are wrong. My only purpose is to set forth the Scriptures as they appear in context. Of course, that statement will be debated by those who hold a Unitarian view of Jesus Christ.

Some may say, I am not opened to the truth, and I should explore other options. Years ago I found the truth. I have no need of exploring other options now as I have done so in the past, and the more I restudy the topic, the more sure I know what I believe. I am secure in my position as a trinitarian so I have no need of trying to prove I am right. I have let the Bible speak for itself. What conclusions are drawn are up to the individual to accept or reject.

If we do not agree, I do not see a problem. You will stand before the same God that I will to give account for your life. In short, you do not answer to me, nor do I to you. It is God who will separate the truth from the lies. I would like to add that these opening thoughts are not primarily directed to the author of The Preconceived Notion hub, but to many who have commented and display an attitude of insistence that all must believe according to their beliefs.

A Quick Review

In our last installment we looked at a few references of Christ in the Old Testament. In Isahiah 9:6 we see the child who is born and the son who is given (Jesus Christ) is the almighty God, the everlasting Father. We looked at the Son of God in Daniel 3:25-25 as well.

We also mentioned that Jesus was accuse of blasphemy by the Pharisees He was crucified for claiming to be God (John 10:30-33). Realizing that only God can forgive sin, we see Jesus taking on that role of granting forgiveness (Luke 5:20, 21).

.So let us move on.

The Fullness of Time

Galatians 4:4 says, “But when the fulness of time was come, God sent forth His Son, made of a woman, made under the law.” At a particular time in eternity it was planned that God would take on human flesh to redeem His most prized possession--man. It was for the joy that was set before Him that He endured humanity. Humanity includes death. Unless the rapture takes place, every single human being will taste death. Jesus likewise tasted death. But the fullness of time began at His birth—the incarnation. This may not suffice in the mind of the Unitarian, but it does show that the Son existed before Bethlehem. He had to have been sent from somewhere.

God sent forth His Son. In the Greek, the term sent forth means to send away, to dispatch. When the time was right, God the Father dispatched, or sent away His Son to take on human flesh. Bethlehem was not the beginning of Jesus. It was the beginning of His humanity.

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It seems that some Unitarians believe that Trinitarians worship three gods. That is not the case. We worship One and only One God who consists of three persons. We believe in one God, eternally existing in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, each co-eternal, co-existing, and of one essence. We do not worship three separate gods, thus we are monotheistic.

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Other False Views

It is not just a matter of trinity or Unitarian. There are several false views that have been around for ages. They still manage to find their way into the “Christian” church from time to time. Some of these false views are the following:

Some would say, How can that be? It is impossible/ It sounds impossible to me too, but we forget a very important Scripture - “. . . The things which are impossible with men are possible with God” (Luke 18:27). We think we have to have everything figured out, that if we cannot understand something, God cannot either. How foolish! How prideful!. If we reject the possibility of the trinity, then we also must reject the message of Luke 18:27.
We need to face it. The possibility exists.

1. The Ebionites - they did not recognize the divinity of Christ. This false teaching is refuted by John 1:1; 2. The Gnostics - they did not recognize the humanity of Christ (refuted by I John 1:14). 3. The Arians - denied Christ’s deity, but believed in His preexistence. This would be the position of the present day Jehovah’s Witnesses. 4. The Nestorians - believed in two separate beings inhabiting the body of Christ. One was human, the other God. 5. The Eutychians - claimed that both natures mingled and became a separate third nature. In Strong’s Systematic Theology, he gives a definition that fits the truth of the incarnation. “In the one person, Jesus Christ, there are two natures—a human nature and a divine nature, each in its completeness and integrity, and these two natures are organically and indissolubly united, yet so that no third nature is formed thereby” (A. H. Strong, Systematic Theology,p. 673).

The True view is that Jesus Christ is as much man as if He had never been God, and that He is as much God as if He had never been man. The theological term for this is “hypostatic union.” Man has unsuccessfully been able to describe this union because it is a miracle. It is supernatural. However, they do try. Some examples given are the following: 1. relationship between body and soul. 2. A relationship between husband and wife resulting in one flesh. 3. A relationship between oxygen and hydrogen while producing water. In each attempt to make an analogy there are two entities, but in the hypostatic union there is one entity with two natures.

In the example of the hydrogen and oxygen, water can be formed from its two components and broken down or separated again. In the hypostatic union, the components (divinity and humanity) cannot be separated. Christ cannot separate His deity from His humanity.

We must also understand the perpetuity of the incarnation. God’s plan was that when His Son joined Himself to a body in Bethlehem, it would be permanent. The same body that grew from a babe and was crucified on the cross is the same body in existence today, albeit glorified. It is the same body that will soon return to earth to claim His saints and set up His kingdom.

Son of Man? Son of God?

As I mentioned in the first installment of this series, the doctrine of the trinity is one of the most documented doctines to be found in the Bible. Scripture confirms over and over the humanity of Jesus as well as His Godhood.

But is Jesus the Son of man or the Son of God? In the book of Luke alone the term Son of man is used over 45 times. Yet in the Fourth gospel (John) we see the term Son of God repeated over and over. So which is it? Son of man? Or Son of God? I agree in this with the Unitarian. Jesus is 100% man. Son of man points to His humanity. Son of God points to His divinity? Either John or Luke were lying or Jesus truly does fit the description of both – and He does.

In our next and final chapter we will collect a list of verses that speak of the God-man, Jesus Christ. Be looking for it.

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billybuc 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

Thank you for kickstarting my brain this morning. Now that I can think clearly, I can go ahead and start writing. :) Well done, Bill!


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Jackie Lynnley 2 years ago from The Beautiful South

I look forward to this Bill. Hope it will be a lesson and blessing for many! Sharing and voted up as always.


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lifegate 2 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

You're welcome, Bill. I'm wishing someone would kickstart me. Thanks again for taking the time out of your busy day to stop by and visit.


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lifegate 2 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

Hi Jackie,

It's always good to have you drop in. I appreciate your visit, the share and the vote.


Neil Braithwaite 24 months ago

Bill -

"...the doctrine of the trinity is one of the most documented doctrines to be found in the Bible."

This statement is patently false.

There is not one mention of the word "trinity" in the entire bible. And nowhere in the bible can the phrase "trinity doctrine" be found.

Jesus never mentioned that he was the second "person" of the Godhead or that the Holy Spirit was the third "person" of that same Godhead. And he most certainly never said that his Father was the first "person" of that godhead. And Jesus never said that God was made op of three "who's" and one "what."

The term "trinity," or the phrase "trinity doctrine"never crossed the lips of Jesus or his Apostles or any other person mentioned in the New Testament.

The term "trinity," or phrase "trinity doctrine" never crossed the lips of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob or Moses or any other person mentioned in the Old Testament.

The angles never mentioned it, the prophets never mentioned it, John the Baptist never mentioned it, the burning bush never mentioned it, and the almighty God never mentioned it!

With all due respect; in the face of these undisputed and undeniable facts, making the above statement in an effort to support the trinity doctrine is at best wishful thinking, and at worst hypocrisy. It is nothing more than exegesis malpractice.

I would expect more from someone who holds a Doctor of Divinity Degree.


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lambservant 24 months ago from Pacific Northwest

Neil is correct, the word "Trinity" is not in the Bible (I know you know this Bill). Neither is the word Rapture, and many other words, but the reality of them are laid out quite clearly. Saying that a word is not in the Bible is a very common argument. It's okay what anyone wants to believe. What I know is that you cannot argue or browbeat people into taking your own perspective of the truth. You cannot argue someone into the kingdom of God. I have never seen it happen, anyway. When people argue and make cutting remarks it becomes apparent that that person is more concerned about being right and winning the argument than about the soul of the other person. God calls us to be deliver the message, but leave the results up to him.

Having said this, I had to learn this myself. I love it that we are all passionate about truth but for me I have to ask myself why? Is it about the soul of the person or winning the argument. I Cor. 13 helps me a lot when I feel that kind of thing creep into me.

"If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging symbol. If I have all prophecy and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and I have faith to remove mountains, but have not love I am nothing. If I give my body to be burned but have not love I gain nothing. Love is patient and kind...is not arrogant or rude, does not insist on its own way...etc. " We all struggle with this. But if we love the Lord and want to please Him and represent Him we must we must conduct ourselves accordingly. I feel like disrespect is creeping in. If I have been a part of it I ask forgiveness. We are all magnificently precious to God no matter what we believe. Therefore we should be precious to one another regardless of circumstances.

I am choosing not engage in argumentativeness. Only that I stand for biblical truth, and I happen to see the truth the way Bill does. If anyone else does not, I appreciate their passion but will not argue, only make comments that are respectful.


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lifegate 24 months ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

Hi Lori,

I think you said it well. I may have to do some heart searching. Your humble attitude is what will draw people to Christ. Thanks for taking some time out of your busy schedule to participate.


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lambservant 24 months ago from Pacific Northwest

Bill, don't laud me as humble, thought I'd like to be more consistently. I did not see ANY disrespect from you. Please see my comments @ TGAF.

I could just feel a bad attitude coming on myself and felt others were getting past respect as well with snide remarks. I saw you standing for biblical truth in a non argumentative way and cordially, not unkindly, using another person's perspective as a jumping off point to begin your next presentation.


Neil Braithwaite 24 months ago

lambservant -

Let me correct your interpretation of what I said. I went further than saying the "word" trinity was not in the bible. My comment implies not just the word not being in the bible, but also any comment or specific explanation of the specific trinity "doctrine." I was refuting Bill's statement that the "trinity doctrine" was "one of the most DOCUMENTED "doctrines" found in the bible. That allegation carries with it the obligation to provide empirical proof of the specific "doctrine" of a trinity in the bible.

Something that garners such a profound defense from people like yourself must be of great importance to the gospel of Christ. If that is the case, then why do you believe God didn't have someone in the scripture explain clearly the trinity doctrine? Why, if it is of such importance, is the doctrine so encrypted in the scripture that it took over 100 years for anyone to figure it out and a couple hundred more to figure out which of the "many" and ever evolving trinity doctrines to eventually settle on. And by the way, just which trinity doctrine do you subscribe to - and please be specific.

As for your inference regarding the demeanor of my arguments. You said:

"When people argue and make cutting remarks it becomes apparent that that person is more concerned about being right and winning the argument than about the soul of the other person."

What do you have to say about a person who calls church leaders hypocrites, brood of vipers and sons of hell? See Matthew 23 and every other place where Jesus had no problem calling a spade a spade.


Neil Braithwaite 24 months ago

LIFEGATE -

1 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into SHARP DISPUTE AND DEBATE WITH THEM. Acts 15

Notice that the "sharp dispute and debate was between Paul and Barnabas and those who were obviously teaching doctrine they did not agree with!

Apparently, having a sharp dispute and debate regarding teachings of certain doctrine was not a problem with Paul and Barnabas.


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lambservant 24 months ago from Pacific Northwest

I am not worried. I will take responsibility for my interpretation of the Bible and whatever God decides to do. You can rest that whatever the result, God will be just.

Paul and Barnabas took the matter to Jerusalem to the apostles and elders to sort through it, because they saw that the sharp disagreement was not effective or changing either side; so I guess it was a problem with them. There comes a time when we realize arguing isn't accomplishing anything. When the apostles and elders made their determination a letter was sent out with instruction. It was not scathing or hostile. In fact, they sent Paul and Barnabas and two others to verify things, back to the people they had the disagreement with and read it to them. The people rejoiced because of its encouragement. They saw the love and care the apostles had for them. Paul and Barnabas went on ministering and teaching there and there is no indication there was further problems.

I am signing off. Blessings.


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lifegate 24 months ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

Neil Braithwaite,

I prayed much for you last night, and will continue to from time to time. The situation here is that you don't really have anything new to say. Your position is quite clear as I believe mine is as well. So we're done. This is your fair warning notice. Any and all comments coming from you will in the future be deleted.


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MsDora 24 months ago from The Caribbean

Bill, it is interesting that there are many things we choose to believe which we do not understand. Who ever saw the Vitamin C in the orange? But when it comes to Christ, we want perfect clarity as if we are All-Wise like He is. Thanks for promoting the Biblical Jesus, and be encouraged that some readers are learning and are encouraged.


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lifegate 24 months ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

Thanks for the encouragement MsDora, and the added insight. As always, I'm glad to have you make the visit. Keep on keeping on!


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lambservant 24 months ago from Pacific Northwest

Amen MsDora!


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Tamarajo 24 months ago from Southern Minnesota

You are correct Bill scripture confirms itself over and over in so many ways. He made it obvious and searchable. I really appreciated your hypostatic union explanation. Even nature exhibits the patterns of God's being and ways and gives such an excellent testimony.

"His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse" ~ Romans 1:20

I also always appreciate your clinging to the truth of His Word in all that you write!

God Bless!


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lifegate 24 months ago from Pleasant Gap, PA Author

Hi Tammy,

"He made it obvious and searchable." What a true statement! The truth of His Word is not hidden, but is very plain to those who want to see it. Thanks for taking some time out and stopping by for a visit!

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