Seven seal Judgments

Who is worthy

The Revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants, things which must shortly come to pass. Because there are no records stating that Jesus appeared to anyone other than John and showed them the revelation, does not prove that he did not do so. The purpose of God giving this revelation to Jesus was for Jesus to shew it to his servants (plural). At least some of the events that are described in the book of Revelation are of things that must shortly come to pass that pertained to those servants that Jesus appeared to (v.2) ... for the time is at hand

I do not understand why anyone can interpret these verses to be talking about events that are to begin almost two thousand years after they were delivered. If the message was not pertinant for the people that it was given to; I do not believe that it would have been delivered at that time.

Rev. 4:1 After this I looked, and behold, a door was opened in heaven; and the voice which I heard was as it were a trumpet talking with me; which said "come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter". John wrote about this revelation while on the Isle of Patmos around 94 AD. The message said hereafter. What does this word mean, hereafter?               In this instance I believe the meaning is obvious. It means beginning here and now and to continue until its completion.  .

 ( Rev.1:19} The son of man is telling John, " write the things which thou hast seen; and the things which are; and the things which shall be hereafter. Things which John "has seen, does see, and will see. These words are written this way for a reason. They are important. The Revelation of Jesus that was portrayed to John in visions, was of things past, present, and future. Some of these visions were about events that was still acting out in John's lifetime. and some of these visions were concerning the FUTURE, for the things are to SHORTLY COME TO PASS; and FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND !

(V 4:2-4)   And immediately I was in the spirit; and behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.  And round and about the thrown were four and twenty seats, and I saw four and twenty elders sitting.                                                                                                     John then describes seeing, Him that sat on the throne, and twenty four seats, and those that sat in them. John describes seeing before the throne a sea of glass, and round about the throne are four beast ...... John does not describe seeing his Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ?    I wonder why this is?  Where is he?

John then describes " I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the back side, sealed with seven seals

John describes a strong angel proclaiming, "Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof.

And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof. This last verse is saying that no one, in heaven or on the earth was found worthy to take the book or loose the seals thereof. Where is Jesus? If Jesus was not in heaven nor on the earth, he must have been someplace else. I believe that this verse was written in this manner in order to show that Jesus was in transit between the earth coming to heaven.

John began weeping, for he must have understood the implications of this. Where is his savior? Jesus is not in heaven,nor in the earth or under the earth, and John began weeping...........  V.5 And one of the elders saith unto me, "Weep not, behold the lion of the tribe of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and loose the seals thereof". Then John sees In the midst of the throne and in the midst of the elders and the four beasts, stood a Lamb. as it had been slain .                                                           The Lamb looked as if it had just then been slain (recently). Why do we suppose that John sees this image the way that he did?  Still bloodied from the beating and dieing upon the cross. 

As soon as he arrives in heaven, he takes the book and immediately opens the first five seals. C.6:2   We should notice here that the emphasis is on the horse and not the rider. This indicates to me that the identification of the riders of these four horses in unimportant.        The four riders of the four horses of the apocalypse are sent out. These horses represented War, Hunger, Pestilence and Death. These plagues were sent down to the earth around upon the arival of Jesus in heaven (30 AD).

Flavius Josephus, a first century historian, records that not too many years after Jesus died, the different religious sects in Jerusalem, were at war with each other. There was also drought in Jerusalem and surrounding areas., This caused crop failures, which brought starvation. Dead bodies lay in the streets. According to Josephus, The civil wars that were going on in Jerusalem had lead to total anarchy. The Zealots were also battling the local garrisons of Roman soldiers. Due to this situation in Jerusalem, Titus leads his army to Jerusalem and encamped around the entire city. The soldiers were sent to Jerusalem to stop the civil wars and to re-establish Roman Law. The city and temple was burned and torn down. As Jesus had foretold, (Matt.. 24:2)  "There shall not be left here one stone upon another that shall not be thrown down).  This was also fulfillment of Daniel 9:26 .." the people of the prince that shall some shall destroy the city and the sanctuary....)

Do these conditions sound a little bit like a TRIBULATION? After the destruction of Jerusalem, Titus continued to searched the deserts looking for rebels, anyone found to be carrying a weapon was immediately executed. Could you call this a Great Tribulation? We must also remember that a decade earlier; Nehru was burning Christians on sticks, for yard lights at his parties, . And then it got worse, they started going hungry, fighting among themselves, and dieing in the streets. And then the temple and city was burned down. How much worse does it have to get before we call it a great tribulation. OH! yea! The sun is supposed to not shine for a fourth part of it. And you won't be able to see the moon or a quarter of the stars. Well that happened too. In seventy nine AD Titus became the tenth Emperor ( horn ) of the Roman Empire, and three weeks later Mt. Vesuvius erupted, burying three cities including Pompeii. According to another 1st century historian, Pliny the younger, during the days of the eruption, you could not see your hands right in front of your face, for the ash and sulfur was so thick.  He also records that there was a strong south easterly breeze.That ash and sulphur had to have crossed the sea partially blocking out the sun in the Holy land.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

Rev 6:12  And I beheaded when he opened he sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earth quake and the sun became black as sack cloth. Did I mention that in 62 AD there was a massive earth quake in the Mediterranean sea, that destroyed Pompeii, The damage was severe enough that seventeen years later the re-construction of Pompeii wasn't completed before it was buried by the eruption of Mt Vesuvius. After the big earthquake in 62 AD, smaller earthquakes became as common as they are today in California. No one paid any attention to them any more, They had no idea that the top was about to blow off.

This was the tribulation that Jesus was talking about, in Matt. 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes in divers places.

Lets get back to the subject of Jesus arriving in heaven and immediately taking the book and opening the seals.  We talked about the first four seals and the four horses, and the sixth seal. Lets discuss when Jesus opens the fifth seal.

 And when he had opened the fifth seal, "I saw under the alter the souls of them that had been slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held" They were asking, when was God going to punish those on the earth that was responsible for their blood. They were told to wait yet for a little season, and then.... A season is 13 weeks. Thriteen prophetic weeks which is 119 years on earth. A little season is a little less than 119 years. If we added a little less than 119 years beginning from 30 AD , we would arive before 149 AD. Some time before 149 AD, their wait would be over. These saints that are seen under the alter(6:9) are among those that came out of the tribulation mentioned in Rev. (7:9 & 14). After this I beheld, and, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands. The angel asks John, Who are these? John says, "You know?" The angel then says, "these are they that came out of the GREAT tribulation..." 

I do not believe this to be describing the same event as is described in Rev 20:4, speaking of the first rescurrection. This  is a diffrent event as is fortold in Daniel 12:1& 2. I believe this because Daniels report is that At that time that the Little Horn of the fourth kingdom upon the earth comes to his end , shall Michael stand up for the children of Daniels people. This would have been when the fourteenth Emperor of the Roman Empire dies.                                    This happened in 138 AD.

One thing that I must point out , is that all of these things ocure before the seventh seal is opened, and when it is opened.... nothing happens, except there is silence in heaven for a half of an hour. This silence for half of an hour may not mean anything; however it does depict a passing of time before the seven trumpets are handed out to the seven angels. This indicates that the seven seal judgments are completely finished before the next judgments are handed out? And then some time passes before the seven trumpets begin to sound? I can see no other reason for this to be written this way. What else could this statement mean? This verse has to be important or God would not have inspired John to include it in scripture. There is a separation of some length of time after the seals are all opened and before the seven angels are given the seven trumpets. Chronologically speaking the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments are somewhat divided. They can not all happen within a (earthly) three and a half year period of time, as many preachers teach. All of the seals were opened and those judgments were inflicted upon that Hebrew Nation beginning in 26 28 or 30 AD and was finished by the time that that Hebrew Nation ceased to exist. And at that time the Old Testament covenant was finished. Daniel 12:1 "At that time shall Michael stand up for the children of thy people, and there shall be tribulation such as never was since there was a nation and at that time thy people shall be delivered.

   As a last note I feel that I must add; As mentioned in Daniel 12:4 Daniel is instructed to seal this prophesy and the book. This prophesy as described in that verse seems to have been fulfilled with the opening of the sixth seal being opened. This makes me wonder if these other seal judgments might have been given to other prophets, and they were told to seal them until they were fulfilled. Were these prophesies not included in the selection of books that now make up our bible?

The great multitude were seen in heaven, having come out of the great tribulation. And then the seventh seal is opened, and then there is silence in heaven for half an hour, and then the trumpets are handed out. How do we explain all of this? All of these things happened before John describes the six trumpets being sounded and those judgments that accompany the sounding of those trumpets.

And then he describes The angel with the little book ,(C.10)John is told to eat the little book. and that he must prophesy again before many peoples, tongs and kings. It is odd that they do not teach in sunday school that all of the prisoners on the Isle of Patmos were released in the year 96 AD. And John did in fact prophesy before many people, tngues and kings.

  The point is that the great tribulation occurred, and the 144,000 were redeemed from among man before the seven trumpets begin to sound. The seven seal judgments were inflicted upon the first century Hebrew Nation.

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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Well, the New Testament speaks of the Great Tribulation also, and the book of Revelation is indeed in the New Testament. The son of perdition is to be revealed (the antichrist) and will desecrate the holy throne of God in the Jewish temple by claiming to be God. Saints will be persecuted and killed. At the end of the Great Tribulation the two final witnesses are to be killed and left in the streets of Jerusalem for 3.5 days. Jesus was in the tomb 3 days, a literal 3 earthly days. The two witnesses will then be caught up in the air in front of those on the earth. At this time the Son of Man will return on a white horse with the saints to fight the battle of Armageddon. After this battle, Satan will be bound for a thousand years. The antichrist and false prophet are cast into the Lake of Fire, and thus begins the thousand year reign of Christ and the saints on earth.

So, if the Great Tribulation had passed, Satan would not be doing his business here on earth and neither would the spirit of antichrist or false prophets. Satan will be loosed after the thousand years and recruit nations to encircle the holy city once more. Fire will devour them. The unsaved dead will then be bodily resurrected to face the judgment seat of Christ and will be cast into the Lake of Fire with Satan.

At that time a new heaven and new earth will be manifest where we reside for all eternity without any evil present. I do not think the Great Tribulation has occured yet. Paul said he suffered tribulation all along, but the one coming is far worse than anything that ever was. We have not yet seen the antichrist get killed and rise again. We haven't yet seen the false prophet call fire down from heaven, or been confronted with receiving the mark of the beast and been martyred because of it. So much has yet to happen. Keep the faith, for the Day of the Lord is at hand.


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Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

Thank you for your time and coment. Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21  are all three describing The Great Tribulation, and Jesus coming again.   I  just  CAN NOT    get past the fact that   In Matthew 24:3 and Mark 13:3  the sermon on the mount as it has come to be called, was not a sermon at all. This was a private conversation which must have been similar to many other private conversations that they must have had. I feel that when Jesus said that " When YOU see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet stand in the holy place... Jesus was saying that some of them, if not all of these four, were going to see it happen.  In this same conversation Jesus said " Verily I say unto YOU   THIS  generation shall not pass till all be fulfilled".   We should not interpret these chapters to mean anything other that what is clearly spoken. 2nd Peter 2:20  "Knowing this first, NO prophesy of the scripture is of any private interpretation". I just can not get past the fact that Matt. 24 was a private conversation. We should not interpret it to be talking about some generation 1900 years in the future. If Jesus had meant that, he would have said it that way. Jesus said that everything that he had discussed in this conversation was going to happen in that Generation. We can not change his words to conform to  our understanding. I think that I will change my understanding to confirm to his words. May God bless us all 


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Well, while Matthew 24:34 states these things will happen in their generation, two verses later Jesus says, "But of the day nor the hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone." We can then go to 2 Peter 3:9 which tells us why the LORD is delaying the promised return, so that as many as possible will come to repentance.

I must make a correction to my comment above. When the two witnesses are killed and resurrected, that is the end of the second of three woes of the seventh and final trumpet of the seventh seal. The final woe of the seventh trumpet consists of seven plagues before the battle of Armageddon (Jesus returning on the horse with the saints). As you stated, there was silence for a half an hour just after the seventh seal is broken. Some think the sixth seal was already broken and we are on the verge or into the seventh.

Besides the prophesy in Matthew 24, we also have aligning prophesy in Isaiah 14, Daniel 11, 2 Thessalonians 2, and Revelation 13, which were not private conversations. Jesus knew all these things would be recorded in writing for us and spoke what He was to speak for this purpose. We do need to remain alert and know that Matthew 24 states it will be as in the day of Noah when the Son of Man/Son of God comes in the clouds. While Noah was rescued, people were left behind unto destruction.

I believe in the pre-tribulation rapture of His bride, and those left behind that believe (once they've witnessed the coming of the Lord in the clouds) will have to die a martyr's death. Did you know there are FEMA concentration camps already set up all over the U.S.? Anyhow, my point being, Noah was warned and given instruction by God to spare him and his family. I believe we also will be alerted and warned by our Lord as to what to do in this time of "Jacob's Trouble", should we still be here...


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Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

Again thank you for your coments, They causes me to reexamine my beliefs on this matter, however...This is the way that I understand Matt. 24:34 & 36. The day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my father only, (then jesus says, but I can tell you this much) "This generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled". I realize that there are a number of verses when one desciple or another were making strong statements that would seem to contradict the word of Christ,BUT We must remember what our foundation is built upon, Is it the words of Christ or of his desciples? What ever is built upon the foundation must conform to it.

Because I believe that the "Rapture" ocured at the time of the end of days, for THAT Hebrew Nation that ceased to exist around 135 or 138AD. ,my perspective of all of scripture has changed. I believe that Rev.14 describes a harvesting of the earth. AND THEN v.13 "And I heard a voice from heaven, saying unto me, "Write blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henseforth; yea saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours,and their works do follow them", Though the earth is being harvested, people will continue to die from "hense forth". I understand this to mean that from now on when a true Christian dies, he immediately goes to heaven. This is the first rescurrection (Rev. 20:5) Also at this time, Satan is bound in the bottomless pit. and those, that were beheaded, reign with Christ in heaven for 1000 years. At the end of the thousand years Satan is released to gather together the kings of the earth and then we will come to the Battle of Armagedon, and (Rev 19:17) All men will die, small and great, free and bond. Satan is thrown into the lake of fire ... the end, We live happily ever after. AMEN; and may God Bless us all


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Okay, I don't want to "argue" what you wish to believe. You just switched around the two verses in Matthew, in that Jesus first said that generation would see this happen, but later said no man knows the day nor the hour, including Him. The thousand year reign of Christ is on earth, not in heaven, for when Satan is released, he encircles the holy city on earth and fire from heaven is what devours his kings and kingdoms. That's when the new heaven and new earth will be manifested. The holy city will be on the new earth for all eternity. We can't possibly be in the new earth yet because Satan and his angels are still heavily at work persecuting the saints. Regarding the statement, "Blessed are they who die in the Lord from now on", this is speaking of those who were left behind upon the rapture of the church dying a martyr's death for their faith. Again, you can choose to believe what you wish, but I think these points are valid. We are not in the new heaven and earth, so even the thousand year reign is not manifested yet because evil still exists in the world. Yes, God bless us all.


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Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

I really do not want to argue either. And yes I did switch the order in which Jesus made two diffrent statements. That does not change the meaning of his two statements at all. I believe that we are living in our LAST days before the battle of Armegeddon. It is literally right around the corner or at the door. Every preacher that I hear on the TV and radio are saying that exact thing. And I agree. If that last statement is true, that would mean that Satan has been bound for a thousand years and has been loosed for a little season. This also means that the First Rescurrection must have also occured over a 1000 years ago. Also I can not find any verse in scripture that says that Jesus comes down to the earth during the 1000 year reign. I will say that when I was looking for that verse, I kept remembering 2nd Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no PROPHESY of scripture is of any private interpretation". Might be one of the most important verses in the bible. I have been studying, and uninterpretating my misinterpretations of prophesy for about 8 years, It was like learning to read all over again. If my thinking is nessed up.... I need help.... To understand how I came to be so messed up... check out my newest Hub.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

The thousand year reign of Christ is found in Revelation 20. If we look at verses 7-8 "And when the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison, and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore." It goes on to say they surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them. Therefore, the saints and the beloved city are indeed on the earth during the thousand year reign. We have not seen evil bound yet, have you? Your thinking is not messed up, brother. The world has many interpretations of the prophesy, and all we can do is actually look at the Bible only.

I heard a teaching that the Catholic Church is the antichrist who ruled for 1260 years instead of 1260 days, and thus the Great Tribulation was over when Napoleon overthrew the Roman Empire. That can't be true again, because there is so much prophesy that has not yet been fulfilled. I've written a hub about the pre-tribulation rapture of the church; you should take a look at it. God is not finished with us yet....otherwise, we would be in heaven by now in the New Jerusalem. I can't wait!


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Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

I would like to answer by changeing the subject The first time that I ever read the new testament from beginning to end, I read only those words that was written in red. Every word that the Lord Jesus Christ said. This is the foundation on which my belief system is built upon. I did not and sometimes still don't live by it all, but his words that are written in red is and always have been my foundation. The words that Gods messanger angels spoke are added to this foundation as long as I can understand them, and they do not contradict those words that were written in red. I recently found 2nd Peter 1:20, KNOWING THIS FIRST, THAT NO PROPHESY OF THE SCRIPTURE IS OF ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION. No one has a right to their own interpretation. Satan can not take away the TRUTH. He knows this. and in an attempt to hide the TRUTH, He has been pileing mountains of misinterpretations upon the truth.He has been doing that for hundreds and hundreds of years.The truth is still there but is very hard to see, and we will get very tired digging through all of those interpretations. Everyone needs to go back to their bibles and read the red words first, They are the most important, even more important than what the desciples have to say.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Hi. Jesus' words are in the first four books of the New Testament and are confirmed of course, throughout the entire Bible (Old and New Testaments). But, I just found a passage today as I was studying for my next hub on faith. It's 2 Timothy 2:18 "men who have gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and they upset the faith of some." Guess this was even going on back then...it's good to get past the first four books of the Bible and see what was going on after the gospel of Jesus Christ was preached. God bless your heart.

1 Timothy 4:6 states "In pointing out these things to the brethren, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, constantly nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound doctrine which you have been following.” Keep on reading, brother :-) God loves your heart and so do I.


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Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

Carrie. I want to thank you for helping me to think harder to "PROVE MY POINT.(JOKE) I haven't changed my concept of belief but I have figgured out something that I didn't know before. I may be the last to know? But I think that I have figured out the ONE AND ONLY pivot point that separates Pretorist-historist view = me, and the futurist view = you. and may God bless us all, even the symbolicist,


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tantrum 7 years ago from Tropic of Capricorn

I love the Book of Revelation! It's beautiful! And I'm sure it has some occult meanings, but for me is simply beautiful writing and symbolism.


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Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

Some things do keep coming around life as defined in the Mian long count. The universe even has cycles of reoccurring events. In Daniel 12:4 Daniel is told o seal up this prophesy. This that Daniel is to seal up I believe is the 6th seal that is opened in Rev. 6:12. Daniel sealed it Jesus opened it.I often wonder how many other prophets were told to put a seal on it but those books were not included in the cannot that the Church put together in 326 ?


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tantrum 7 years ago from Tropic of Capricorn

Lots of them ! Ask the Vatican !


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Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

I do think that there are lots of secrets that were not accepted in the bible as we know it. I think that we know why,

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