Why I Am No Longer A Catholic

I was watching “The Nun's Story” with Audrey Hepburn the other day and it reminded me of my own Catholic upbringing, although it had little in common with the film. I am no longer Catholic even though I was baptized Catholic, went to a Catholic grade school for eight years and even wanted to be a nun at one point.


The reason I am no longer Catholic is not because the nun's were mean (although they were), or because I had a terrible experience in the Catholic school system (I didn't), nor did I have any traumatic experiences with priests (as some victims will attest). No the main reason I am not Catholic is because I believe the Catholic religion is anti-Christian. By that I mean the teachings, the customs and traditions of the Catholic religion are not biblical and do not follow the teachings of Christ.


The main areas of the Catholic religion that I believe are in direct opposition to Biblical teaching are as follows:


  1. The Bible is not the sole authority of the church: 2Ti 3:16 All is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness 2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the is of any private interpretation. The Catholic church teaches that oral tradition and creeds carries as much weight and when in conflict more weight than the word of God.
  2. The church encourages blind obedience to authority, the Bible says to test everything and everyone: 1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but test the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
  3. That Mary was without sin through the immaculate conception when the Bible clearly says: Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. Rom 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God;
  4. That Mary is a Co-Redemtrix along with Christ. Personally I don't know what could be more heretical than to name another human being as co-redemtrix! Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once and for all.
  5. That Purgatory exists: The Bible teaches: Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: There is no mention of purgatory anywhere in the Bible, only heaven and hell and the Bible also teaches Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. The Catholic church also used to believe in Limbo. I'm not sure if they still believe in Limbo but that is another teaching that has no basis whatsoever in the Bible.
  6. The Catholic church believes that you are born again when baptized and they baptize babies. Jesus taught that you must be born again in order to be saved, he was baptized as an adult and so was everyone in the Bible. The act of baptizing is an outward sign of an inward event. The thief on the cross was never baptized yet Jesus said that this day you shall be with me in paradise. Phillip helped to convert the Eunuch: Act 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, see, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believes with all thine heart, thou mayst. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Act 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. How can one believe with all your heart when you are just a baby?
  7. We should not be praying to saints; the bible says in 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
  8. Call no man Father. Jesus told us that we should call no man Father in Matthew 23 vs. 9. Jesus was specifically talking about the religious leaders of the day who were referred to as "Father" just as the Catholic priests and pope is today. Look it up, calling an other man Father elevates that person and Jesus taught that if you want to be great in the kingdom of God that you should be the servant of all. It flies in the face of Jesus' teachings.
  9. Finally, the Catholic church teaches that faith alone is insufficient to save us. This is what the Reformation was about. Moreover the Catholic church teaches in Vatican II that anyone who does believe that we are saved by grace, through faith, and that is not of yourself lest any man should boast (Ephesians 2 8&9) is accursed. See this link: http://carm.org/roman-catholic-view-justification. This heresy alone is why no one should belong to the Catholic church as it diminishes the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross by daring to say that his finished work is insufficient.

In closing, I would say that the worst crime of the Catholic church is to lead millions of people into a system that is actually the opposite of what Jesus Christ taught. Jesus said you will know them by their fruits. What are the fruits of the Catholic religion? The Inquisition, The Crusades and now rampant pedophilia.

Jesus had the harshest of words for the religious leaders of the day:


Mat 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Mat 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

Mat 23:11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

Mat 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

Mat 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Mat 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretense make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.


The best thing you can do if you are Catholic is to find a good Bible believing church and attend that. Read and study the bible and ask Jesus to guide you, He will. We live in treacherous times, we don't have the luxury of staying in a church because of tradition or friends or comfort. We must make good use of the time we have as Jesus is coming quickly to gather up his own and take us home with Him. Will you be ready?

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brianzen 6 years ago

Religion as a whole suffers from conceptual misunderstanding, even at the highest level. Ultimately the truth of God is only discernable by the works of creation, which require insight even to glimpse, sadly noone seems to have the desire to put down the concept to look for the ultimate truth so we leave it to history and tradition.


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HOOWANTSTONO 6 years ago

Hi Brie

Its always great to see someone realize their freedom from the bondage of religion.

The confusion of Christianity is, what people think a christian is,what they are supposed to be,and how they should act or behave. So is it with all religion.

Catholics are not Christian, only a Born Again believer is a Christian. Even though the word "Christian" is only mentioned twice in the bible you can deduce from these what a Christian is.

Act 26:28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

1Pe 4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

It was the Romans that labeled believers in Christ as Christians. And Rome has always persecuted Christians even after it took on the guise as being Christian for political purposes.. Its no wonder that God called Rome the "Whore of Babylon" the one seated on the seven hills....Vatican.

Go well


foreignpress 6 years ago from Denver

Wow. This is a harsh condemnation of the Catholic church. And the church is leading millions in the opposite direction of Jesus' teachings? That's almost saying the Catholic dogma embraces Satan, for Satan is directly opposed to Jesus the Son of God. Or am I interpreting too broadly? I can't imagine there's a middle ground. My ex-wife was a Catholic. Past tense. She's now a Christian and for the same reasons you propose. Another gutsy hub. This one will generate some serious activity.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Brianzen: I think the truth can be known through the Holy Spirit as well, but yes through creation too. Thanks for commenting.

Hoowantstono: Even though that sounds harsh, I agree with you.

Foreignpress: I was quite hesitant about publishing this hub and I could have made it 3 times longer but I don't like writing hubs that are too long. Almost my entire family is Catholic with a few priests and nuns thrown in for good measure. Sigh, oh well the truth will stand when all else fail come HELL or high water!


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JOE BARNETT 6 years ago

what i think is amazing about religion is , the amount of confusion it creates. "it is the only way" you will hear each religion espouse yet as of two weeks ago the mormon church merged with the catholic church. so, which "way" is it? now we can expect a blend of both religions, or confusion X 2. what will it be? did someone suddenly realize joseph smith was telling a big one or are they trying to blurr their origin and eliminate the thorn in mit romneys political side? anyway i think society has reached a level in it's maturity that will cause more and more thoughtful people to reach the same conclusion. excellent hub!


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Vladimir Uhri 6 years ago from HubPages, FB

Brie, great hub and truth.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Joe: I think that there is a real difference between "religion" and the truth or reality, therein lies the rub! Jesus was against the religious rulers of the day but he was the Truth and that little nuance makes all the difference in the world.

Thanks for commenting Joe and Vladimir!


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

What about it? Any church that substitutes ritual for changes in the heart is on the wrong track as far as I'm concerned. I was raised Catholic so I wrote about what I am familiar with. Maybe you should write a hub on the Orthodox Church "me".


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A M Werner 6 years ago from West Allis

Brie, excellent hub. The Catholic Church has been in the business of assimilation for a long time. In many lands it has transferred pagan practices into saintly worships, transposing old idols for new catholic idols. The rituals and practices remain. The whole co-redemtrix issue is truly unbelieveable. I believe there are many good honest Christians young and innocent in the spirit, wading their way through the Catholic religion. Hopefully, as they mature in the deeper depths and higher heights, they will be delivered from the traditions that bind. Of course, they will first have to escape the idea that it is a private interpretation only the priest can translate. That is truly the chain that has long held many Catholics in place. Peace.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

I agree completely, the whole co-redemtrix issue is so out there it boggles the mind...and yet I think it truly magnifies the errors (and there are many) of the Catholic church. Thanks for commenting A M Werner


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain

Great hub, and difficult for anyone to dispute, as it sets plain scripture against man made religion....

It seems that as we near the end God is revealing more truth to His people, then the choice is theirs to make, body of Christ or church of man.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Yes, it would seem that way aguasilver, thanks for commenting.


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pointblank009 6 years ago from Buffalo

Excellent Column Brie. Understand when Church dogma begins to overrule Bible, it leads to trouble in other areas, as you noted with the sexual scandals. Here's a piece I wrote on the Irish Catholic Clergy disclosures that sparked heated debate with my readers over passing references of another Church. All religions fail if they choose to handle despicable practices soley internally:

http://www.hvpress.net/news/155/ARTICLE/8576/2010-...


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks pointblank009, I'm really quite surprised that I haven't received more derogatory comments.


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JOE BARNETT 6 years ago

BRIE- would you take a look at my hub and comment"my search for God". because you can intelligently answer some of the questions,i hope.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Joe, I sent you my personal email address and a note, get back to me when you have a chance.


loriamoore 6 years ago

It's a shame that Catholics don't teach about or have that personal relationship with Jesus Christ and instead focus on ceremony, rites, and rituals.


Justcallmeleroy 6 years ago

Brie, It is wonderful to see you have spoken out against the Catholic Church and where it is leading people. We must speak out to help those who are looking and are involved in these religions that put there beliefs above there relationship with Christ Jesus. I am very encouraged and I hope to encourage you in your writings. God Bless


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itakins 6 years ago from Irl

You say,

'The Catholic church teaches that oral tradition and creeds carries as much weight and when in conflict more weight than the word of God'

Not so -The Word and The Eucharist are central to Catholic belief and teaching,the church is founded on the Word of

Christ.

'You say,

'That Mary is a Co-Redemtrix along with Christ.'

Not so-Jesus is our Redeemer-Jesus Christ Son of God.

You say

he was baptized as an adult and so was everyone in the Bible,'

Christ's earthly mission began when He was 30 years old!!

I do notice you omitted Confirmation in the Spirit?

Regrettably you did not have much knowledge of the faith into which you wre born.

To say Catholics are not Christian is a most unchristian statement,even for a lapsed Catholic.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

It is NOT unChristian because it is true. And, you should look into your own doctrine further because everything I said was true.


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itakins 6 years ago from Irl

I'm afraid not,everything you say is not true;I am a practising Catholic with a deep knowledge of my faith,I am very well versed in the doctrine of the Catholic church.

You have made several erroneous statements.

I point these out for your own edification.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

You say that the Word is the foundation, yet there are many instances that the Word of God says one thing and the Catholic church do and say another, of which I pointed out. Regarding the Co-redemtrix of Mary all you have to do to find out what the Popes have said regarding this UNHOLY, UNCHRISTIAN, HERETIC doctrine is to google it...there is more than enough written on that topic.

You have not pointed out one thing, your arguments about Christ and baptism don't even make sense.


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itakins 6 years ago from Irl

Peace and God's Blessing to you-I do not believe it right to reduce the church of Christ to a haranguing match.


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA

Praise God! Somehow, the Word of God revealed the truth to you and you stand in the truth. The really big thing that gets me is the praying to or through deceased Catholics the church has deemed "saints", when the majority of the letters the Apostle Paul writes throughout the New Testament are addressed to the saints (all believers in Christ)! There is only one mediator between God and man and that is Jesus Christ ~ not "saints" or even angels. The veil/curtain that blocked off the holy of holies from the people was ripped in two when Jesus died ~ we as believers can come boldly before His throne. And no man on earth has the power to forgive (remit) sins ~ that, too is an abomination. One more ~ they took out the second Commandment and split the first one to make 10! I guess they love their idols so much they dare to change God's holy Law. Be blessed ~ I am so encouraged by reading your hub!!

P.S. I can't hear any sound on the video?


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

I'll check the video. I'm glad you are encouraged Judah


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA

Yeah, Brie ~ it was my computer and I just got it fixed. I got to listen to the video. Praise God. Blessings to you.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Oh good, I didn't get around to looking into it so I am glad it is ok. Thanks again for writing. Did you become a fan? That way you will get my Hubs automatically, if you would like that.


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA

I'm happy to be a fan!! God's Hand is upon you and I am blessed to be your sister in Christ forever.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks Judah's Daughter!


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brotheryochanan 6 years ago from BC, canada

I'm am so happy for you! Now you can discover God for who he really is and all of what he stands for. Congratulations! I rejoice when i see catholicism fall like lightning.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thank you brotheryochanan


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Moulik Mistry 6 years ago from Burdwan, West Bengal, India

Wonderful writing - I stay far away from religious nonsenses...


Michael 6 years ago

The Roman Catholic Church put the "word" together. At the councils of Rome 382, Hippo 393, and Carthage 397. What protestants and "born again" "real christians" don't understand is that they blast Catholic traditions, yet they are too historically ignorant to realize that they themselves are ardent adherents to the Catholic Tradition of the exact same 27 New Testament Scriptures!!

No where in the Bible, does it say Scripture Alone! That was a heretical lie of the Reformers in the 16th century.

No where in the Bible does it say Faith Alone other than in James which actually says NOT by faith alone!

"The Church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth." 1 Timothy 3:15

To be deep in history is to cease to be protestant. The earliest christianity was Eucharistic, Sacramental, Apostolic and Catholic. Christian initiation and Salvation apart from Baptism was un heard of, with the exceptions of martrydom and such; however, the Baptism was always viewed as necessary for salvation, as well as the Church and the Sacraments.

This "born again" crap of an altar call and the sinners prayer is unbiblical and yet these enemies of "religion" [oohh that's a bad word] have been merely recycling old heresy's if not inventing new ones on a daily basis, not to mention 30,000 denominations; and they have the audacity to challenge the history of brilliant and sound Catholic practice and theology?


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

God is responsible for the scripture:

(2 Timothy 3:15) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

(2 Timothy 3:16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS!:

(Ephesians 2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

(Ephesians 2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

You MUST BE BORN AGAIN:

(John 3:3) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

(1 Peter 1:23) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

I rest my case.


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Harlan Colt 6 years ago from the Rocky Mountains

And the huge hats... the head of Dagon the fish god...

left over from Roman Pagan worship. The Catholic church is the "left-over" Pagan church of Rome that worshipped every god but the true God. They simply renamed all their gods and goddesses to christian names and kept doing business as usual.

In Rome while touring the ancient statues a child will ask, "Mommy, why does Moses have horns on his head?" The ignorant mother will say something like, "oh that's just how they made statues back then..."

The truth is, ITS NOT MOSES! It is the god SATURN from ancient ROME!, renamed so they can do business as usual.

You can toss in Christ-mass and Easter too, more pagan rituals wrapped in the color of christianity perpetuated by the Catholic church.

There shall be many false christs. Where are they?

They are in the huge churches! Let him who preacheth another Jesus be accursed!

Note to Itakens: You didn't point out one thing, except perhaps that when Jesus said, "prove all things, hold fast to that which is good," that you completely ignored this verse and follow blindly those who are blind. If you like praying to saints, you can pray to me, St. Harlan, the patron saint who defer's all prayer to Jesus. Which means since I can't hear your prayers, why not just take a short-cut and pray to Jesus? Cut out the middleman and go straight to the source! I do!

Brie, there is so much work to do and so little time. Keep up the good work!

P.S. Did you know Catholics were not allowed to vote in America until around 1899 or so because America "was" a protestant Christian Nation? Things that make ya go

hmmmmmmmmm!


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Interesting comments Harlan.


Keith Agee 6 years ago

Hello,

It seems you have not quit being religious; but have quit following Catholisism. I'm in a similar predictament. I'm Baptist, but do not worship with the congregation I was raised in.

Religion is tough to comprehend. Especially, when you are raised in it from birth.

One the earliest conflicts in faith is usually the miscomprehension of religion, church, & role of a/the church. Religion is what we are brung up in, church is a societal representation & moral body, & the role of the church is diverse in moral standard, as well as, business.

Hipocrasy is a constant in life. I can't sit in the church my Grandmother helped charter because of personal hipocrasy, & bastardization of practice, & interpretation there of.

Though I do not reap the benefits of being a church goer; I lose no faith in self.

Perspective: With doctrine comes indoctrination. One of the bad things about that is: Anyone can enter a church & be with-in the body/congregation.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

We're all sinners saved by grace, the "church" are true believers not necessarily people who sit in a building.


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brotheryochanan 6 years ago from BC, canada

to keith hagee: the church has believers and non-believers in it. It is a tool of christ to weed out the baby believers or lukewarms and uncaring persons. Christ will find his own of whatever flock they are in. You don't have to buy the cow but you can get your milk from christ. God will always plant a person in a church, move them from church to church but god always has the very best intentions for his own. Trust god and look not at the people around you, but look to god and he will take care of your spiritual needs and your earthly needs. Pray that god gives you a church you can stand to be in and eventually it will happen. Shop around! :)


Eric 6 years ago

So I did not read all of the other comments, I did read the original aticle or hub as you call it sorry I am new to all this. I am a born again Christian saved from sin. Now my path that I had to take I would not recommend but I took it. I drank I used and abussed women and all sorts of other drugs. Saved by grace and have started my journey to trudge the road of happy destiney. Hear is my thing. Christian, baptist, methodist, asembly, Catholic. One common goal to get closer to christ. We are supose to question and we are supose to find our own path. OUR path not yours not mine but our own. If someone can become more spiritual and heighten their spiritual development through Catholic teaching then let them. To argue or condem others for the path they feel is right is no better then any other sin. Faith with out works is dead. I feel we all must pray daily to be of maximum service to him and our fellows. If this hub does nothing else then to persuade a few too do searching on their own part and ask question then you served a purpose. But when to do so injures others then we should look at our intentions. God be with you all


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Well, I appreciate your comments but we don't get to choose the "path". Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but by me. There is only one path. Just because someone says the name Jesus means nothing...the Muslims do that. It matters what path and to not point the way to the right path is to be in league with the evil one.


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tonymac04 6 years ago from South Africa

These Christians - see how they love each other! Condemning each other and calling each other names - great stuff! Whatever happened to "love your neighbour as yourself?"

I have read with interest the Hub and the comments. The Hub is full of half-truths and insinuations about the Catholic Church and its teachings. What can be said of the Catholic Church here could be said of many other denominations also - infant baptism, for example, and all Churches, even you, interpret Scriptures. And I would challenge you to find a respectable Catholic source for your statement that the Catholic Church teaches "That Mary is a Co-Redemtrix along with Christ." Many Catholics have tried to have it declared as official doctrine but for almost 2000 years successive Popes have refused to do so. And for very good reason.

The Wikipedia article on this issue reads, in one paragraph: "The Roman Catholic view of Co-Redemptrix does not imply that Mary participates as equal part in the redemption of the human race, since Christ is the only redeemer. Mary herself needed redemption and was redeemed by Jesus Christ her son. Being redeemed by Christ, implies that she cannot be his equal part in the redemption process." The co-Redemptrix idea is very old, has some Scriptural indications, but is not an article of faith required of Catholics, and to imply that it is is simply making mischief where none is needed.

What you claim as the "truth" of scripture here is in fact your interpretation. And in fact it cannot be otherwise. Each of us understands the Scriptures in the light of our knowledge and experience.

The Magisterium of the Catholic Church is an ever-evolving understanding of the Scriptures in the light of new knowledge and the experience of the Church.

To call the Catholic Church unChristian is as Itakins pointed out above a rather unChristian thing to say. And it flies in the face of the truth, I'm afraid.

I do myself have deep issues with the Catholic Church, many of them related to Marian dogma, but I would never claim to be more "Christian" than they are. That is, I think, an arrogant and unloving attitude. And it implicitly condemns millions and millions of faithful believers down the Centuries. I think that is rather a big issue and I'm not sure that any human has the right to do so.

Only God, I think, can judge what is in my heart and mind when I say the name of Jesus.

When I see how Christians love each other I am scared to come near. I will take my chances and respect and love other people, no matter what they call themselves, and stay away from those who use the name of Jesus to condemn others. I refuse to judge anyone for any reason, most especially not for anything doctrinal. The world has had enough of crusades and crosses and burnings at the stake, not to mention car bombs and suicide bombers.

And so I wish you love and peace. We could all use more of both.

Tony


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

I think it's arrogant and unloving of you to say it's arrogant and unloving of me!

Jesus judged the religious jews more harshly than anyone...was he being arrogant and unloving! He called them sons of the Devil and white washed tombs, was he being arrogant and unloving!

Catholics ARE NOT Christians.

And you are a wolf in sheeps clothing Tony


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tonymac04 6 years ago from South Africa

So now we're down to name calling. I would have preferred a decent debate on the issues, but that is clearly not going to happen as you have made up your mind.

I did not say that you were arrogant and unloving. I said that claiming that I was more Christian than the Catholics would be an arrogant and unloving attitude for me.

What did Jesus judge of the religious authorities of his time? He was critical of their double standards and their teaching of blind obedience to the Law without understanding the essence of the Law: justice, mercy and faith. He was attacking their arrogance and blindness.

However, you are not Jesus or God, and so I still don't accept that you have the right or the authority to claim, as you do so vehemently, that Catholics are not Christians. Neither have you made any convincing argument to support your statement.

There are two things required of Christians in terms of beliefs, the Bible and the Creeds, Nicene and Apostle's. People who have these as the bases of the content of their belief, and all Catholics do, have the right to be called Christians. If they don't live out their faith, that is a matter between them and their God. No-one, but absolutely no-one, else has the right to judge them as Christian or not Christian.

I try not to judge others. If that's being a wolf, then so be it.

I still wish you love and peace

Tony


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Jesus said that unless you are born again you will not see the kingdom of heaven. He fought with the Pharisees about who he was, they tried to kill him because he made himself out to be God.

And, finally, I did make the point intellectually that Catholicism is not Christianity, but you reject the scriptures.

It's not about living it out as much as the doctrine is not Christian.


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tonymac04 6 years ago from South Africa

I reject the Scriptures? Huh? I might disagree with your interpretation or the conclusions that you draw. But nowhere did I say I rejected the Scripture.

As for being born again, you clearly have one idea of what that means. Others have a different idea of what it means. Are they then wrong? By who's standards? On what authority?

I think I have pointed out that the Catholic doctrine, much as you might dislike it, is, in fact, Christian. To be Christian means to believe in the Bible and accept the Nicene and Apostle's Creeds. Catholics demonstrably do both. So therefore they are Christian. QED!

Love and peace

Tony


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RiaMorrison 6 years ago from Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada

Take a look at any denomination of Christianity and you're going to find a ritual or relief or rule that goes counter to something written in the bible. To say that Catholics are not Christian because some of their practices do not match what is said in the bible is to simultaneously condemn countless other factions and denominations in the same breath.

Some people would condemn you of being unChristian because you're using the Internet. The Amish, for example, believe that such things are connections to the world of the sinner and the unbeliever, which the bible has expressly commanded true believers to separate themselves from.

Are you a woman who wears pants or shorts at any time? Ever worn a sweater made of acrylic and wool blend yarn? Those too are things that the bible preaches against as an affront to God, and things that various denominations will insist that followers do not do.

And that's the ultimate problem with -- if I may be so bold -- every single denomination of Christianity. There's always going to be something that's done that goes against what the bible says to do. Heck, even the bible itself isn't too clear on some things. In one breath it says that any man with ruined genitals won't get into Heaven, and in another breath God praises his eunuchs. There are so many varying interpretations of so many different passages of the a book translated countless times that getting to the real truth of what the bible says and means is extraordinarily difficult, and I think it's impossible for any man, woman, church, or organization to know on their own.

Thus I also think it's pure arrogance to say unquestioningly that an entire denomination (or separate religion, if you will) is utterly wrong. It implies that you know better than millions of others, and if I remember correctly, the bible says it's the meek that will inheret the kingdom of Heaven, not the arrogant and outspoken.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Meek is not a definition for heretical. Look at John the Baptist, he pointed out that Herod was unlawful for taking his brother's wife and was executed for it and Jesus said he was the greatest prophet.


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fred allen 6 years ago from Myrtle Beach SC

Very gutsy. Just some food for thought, if a Catholic believes in their heart that Jesus Christ is Lord and is led by the Spirit of God regardless of error in doctrine, I would consider them a brother or sister in the faith. I know of no man that has an errorless doctrine nor no sin that God in His mercy will not forgive. I get where you are coming from, just caution you against throwing a blanket over the group.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

If a Catholic can tell me that they have been born again, that would convince me, because even the Mormons say that Jesus Christ is Lord and they say that they are led by the Spirit too. If someone is Catholic and says that they are born again, if they have been born again for some time I would wonder why they remain in an heretical church.


NAVARCHOS 6 years ago

In Dostoyefski's ''Karamazov brothers'', you may find an interesting analysis about human soul and how bad catholism is..

''Catholism dictates faith, imposes beliefs, destroys freedom.. worse than atheism'' .. to my opinion ''orthodox faith'' helps more to find peace...


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

There is no substitute for a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.


navARCHOS 6 years ago

oh, if one has such a relationship, then that's good for him/her. But, i thought the topic of the article was how to establish this type of relationship.

Anyway, thanks for the thought provoking articles about ''hot'' issues !


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Do you want to know how to establish a relationship with Jesus navARCHOS?


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Etherealenigma 6 years ago from Florida

I don't know if you wrote this in answer to a question posted on why Protestants don't believe Catholics are Christian. I did. I responded to the question with a post prior to even seeing your article here, and was lead to you via similar links on my page.

You do make some good points, but in reading some of the comments, as I don't have time to read them all right now; I've noticed that there are a few who have the perception that you are bashing people who believe in Catholicism, and that you have made no room for Catholics who do believe in Christ and have accepted Him as their savior.

While I do not personally believe in the Catholic institution, having found the source of their institution and beliefs stemming from Jezebel as their originator; at the same time, I recognize that there are a few Catholic churches that do preach Christ as our risen savior. There are some Catholics that believe and have been saved, despite still being in a false institution based on Baal-ism.

For those, I believe it is a matter of breaking free of programming; and requires some measure of self study to see that the institution itself is not doctrinally on track with the true teachings of Christ.

If you read my article you will see why I don't believe in the Catholic church, and the reason is very simple. I didn't even need to throw out all the scriptures you did to make the point, and I didn't condemn those who have that faith. I don't think condemnation is the way to win people over.

I don't necessarily think you condemned in the article, but more so in some of your responses in the comments while defending your position. I find this sort of emotional response to be a constant problem with Christians who are attempting to defend the faith, and I have to say, it is the wrong positional track to take. Some people purpose to get you emotionally charged just so you will step out of your "Christianity" and come at them like anyone else in the world might do.

I think your article was quite good, and actually, I originally intended to tell you in this post that I wanted to link to it in my article.

My suggestion is that you ensure that you represent Christ with your heart, and your mind, and even passionately, but pull your emotions out of the mix, because it will allow the enemy a foothold with accusations, and if he can use you to cause offense then I think your original purpose in writing this article will become null and void. You will simply look like another "religious bible thumper" that is just condemning everyone else. Feel me? Walk in grace and with His peace. Blessings.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Etherealenigma: I feel that I speak the truth...let me tell you a true story quickly. First of all, I was raised Catholic, most of my family is Catholic and I have had many friends who were Catholic. My best friend was Catholic and I told her that I didn't think she was a Christian. I am making this story very short so forgive me. Anyway, she was very mad at me for a long time, but I kept praying for her because I love her, we were very close and I wanted her to be in heaven with me. Anyway, the gist is that she did become saved. Her husband (who was Catholic as well) was going to divorce her, but then he became saved! They now tell everyone about their conversion. I would much rather take the heat of being "offensive" than let people I love THINK that they are going to heaven and are not.

It really comes down to that. Personally, I have NEVER met a saved Catholic, maybe there are some, I can't say, but I have never met one.


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Etherealenigma 6 years ago from Florida

While I appreciate your fervor, particularly for your friend; I think I need to point something out to you. Let me preface this statement by saying that I am not attacking you or seeking to offend you. I also write on several other sites, particularly my own blogs. One of them (www.xanga.com/Heshewethree)is specifically for biblical/spiritual purposes, wherein I post whatever God leads me to, or what I discover in personal studies I do.

Although I also feel that I speak the truth, what we individually speak is spoken through the eyes of our personal experience, and is not without some measure of personal bias. We can only speak our personal truth. Even in how one sees and perceives scripture can be based on the perspective and spectacles of their life experience, and thus the reason for many varied interpretations that some have.

I don't negate what some experience for this reason, because we are all growing at varied levels of spiritual and physical experience, and so our view of things will be slightly different. Neither do I detract from THE TRUTH of scripture itself.

For this reason, I am quick to state on the above site that if anyone has issue with what I'm stating or what I have been shown by the Spirit, to please look up the information for themselves, because I never profess to be an expert on anything, particularly things spiritual, as neither I nor anyone else can know the mind of God.

I can "feel" I speak the truth, but that may the truth for a specified season, and then that truth may change as God develops us more personally, and we can handle a bit more of His truth.

I'm not knocking that you approached your friend out of concern for her eternity. However, the key lies in what you said later...you kept praying for her. It was not specifically your approach or even specifically what you said that caused her conversion...it was all the praying you did.

God could accomplish that conversion with or without you. It comes via demonstrative lights/spirits of love that represent Him in meekness, who maintain a spirit of humbleness and do not walk in a spirit of pride as if their salvation or belief in Him puts them above those who do not. These assist in drawing a potential candidate to Him, but He was already putting the circumstances and situations and people in place to get that person there. It is not the work of one overly passionate person who's willing to take heat for being offensive.

Again, I appreciate your passionate stance, but no matter what, Christ preached love, and the only ones He condemned were those in a position of authority in a religious institution that used the scriptures and the law as a means of personal gain and to whip people with...to take advantage of them.

At no time was Christ striving to convert anyone via being "offensive." He always walked with meekness, and demonstrated love. That was my original point to you. I hope you can accept it, so that you can become a greater witness, as opposed to a lesser one. Peace and blessings.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

While I am sure that prayer helps, the scripture also admonishes us to warn people from taking the path to destruction. For example:

(Ezekiel 3:18) When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

(Ezekiel 3:19) Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

(Ezekiel 3:20) Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

(Ezekiel 3:21) Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

While anyone can have a "feeling" that they are doing what is right, ultimately it is the scripture that has the final word. I see no absence of meekness in warning those following the wrong path..Jesus himself said it:

(Luke 13:1) There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.

(Luke 13:2) And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?

(Luke 13:3) I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

(Luke 13:4) Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?

(Luke 13:5) I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.


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schoolgirlforreal 6 years ago from USA

Hi, I like your topic. I want to take a stab and say, I believe the reason why many people are no longer Catholics is the Novus Ordo Mass and Vatican II. (Not the only reason.) For those 2 things changed the Catholic Mass--the Tridentine Latin Mass so much that it resembles now a protestant way of worship. Please look into this and let me know what you think!! Also you can read my hubs on Christian/Catholic. Thanks! God Bless :)


joy2unme 6 years ago

Brie: After reading the posts thus far, it sounds to me as if your comprehension of, not only the Bible, but of the posted responses(all of them)is very poor. It sounds as if you're answering hastily and angrily. Though I am not a practicing Catholic, I've been surrounded by those who are and I too, feel that your position that all Catholics are unchristian is unchristian. Etherealenigma worded her position quite well, and had you not been so rude to her, you may have actually drawn more positive attention to this hub, by non-born agains. Isn't that the goal? Or is it just to validate your stance? What you have achieved, at least with me, is to reinforce the stereotype of the born-agains as an arrogant, "it's my way or no way" group. Another thing I noticed was that many of your quotes helped the case of the non-born agains. For example: You said that we don't get to choose our "path" and that there is only one path. Your qoute does not say that, in fact it doesn't use the word "path". "Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but by me." Me not Brie. Not only does this prove that your position could violate God's will, it also proves that there is more than one "path". The quote is saying that the destination is to be with the Father and yes, "I am the way, the truth and the life". Life, birth, born-again. "No one comes to the Father But By Me." Many interpret this to mean, He and only He, decides who will be reborn. Again, Ephesians 2:8 For by Grace are ye saved through faith; and that NOT OF YOURSELVES; IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD. Many would say this means you are saved by Grace thruogh faith. Not through Brie. You sounded judgemental and proud(of yourself), when referring to your friends(the couple) who became saved. "I would take the heat for being offensive ratner then LET the people I love THINK they are going to heaven WHEN THEY ARE NOT. "Thou shall not have any other gods before me." Why assume this applies only to the materialistic? Are you not PROUDLY casting JUDGEMENT? As if you are god? You're willing to take the heat because you are seeing yourself as a Saint or a martyr or as God himself. Was it or will it be your decision to LET them in heaven? Jesus judged the Jews harshly.....because he's JESUS. Are you? To many this looks as if you have made the decision for a great many concerning what is true/not true in the scriptures. To many this looks as if YOU are deciding where they go(heaven)or at least taking credit for them becoming saved. "Do you want to know how to establish a relationship with Jesus?" was your response to navARCHOS. Is this an example of your personal relationship with Jesus? Yes, we can all help each other in developing a relationship with Jesus, but let me ask you something. Will you do something for me? Seriously? Change ALL of the names in this hub, even yours, and reread it. Pretend you are not in it, at all. You just stumbled across this site. Do you/Can you, see or learn anything differently, anything new?...WWJD? Is this what Jesus would do? When Jesus befriended Mary Magdelene, did he call her an unholy, unchristian, heretic? A slut? Did he look at her and say, prostitutes ARE NOT chrisians? You're right, meek does not mean heretical. I believe it means, gentle, merciful, compassionate. Compassionate means willing to help those who suffer, sympathetic. Hhhmmmmmmmmmm. When and if in an objective mind when rereading this whithout bias, how would you describe "certain posts"? Maybe God wanted you to learn something. HE KNOWS YOU LIKE TO BE THE TEACHER, but even teachers keep learning. As for me, I'm an RNPC, whose "path" is littered with sarcasm and whose relationship with Jesus involves a bit of humor. It was not my intention to offend you. It was my intent to let you know that you "sound" like a bitter, angry Catholic school girl who had her knuckles smacked one too many times. REMEMBER! WWJD! I FEEL you can do better! You might start with an apology to Etherealenigma. And RiaMorrison. I think you missed her entire point with the meek thing. Honestly, whether I agree with them or not, they express themselves in a way that encourages debate, not fighting and conveys a sincere interest in learning and sharing the "true" meaning of the scriptures and the bible. They could've been great support, but it "sounds" like you want to be the winner and have the spotlight on yourself. Shouldn't it be on God?


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Since when is it sympathetic to tell someone lies? I believe you are reading into my words your own prejudices and feelings. Jesus said to preach the gospel, that's what I do. It's not easy to tell someone that they are not going to heaven if they do not believe in the only way, the shed blood of Jesus, but that is the gospel, there is only one way. It's not my idea, it's God's take it up with him.

BTW, I think it unchristian of you to tell me that I am being unchristian!

The spotlight is on God and what he did, I am just pointed that out. God will be my judge not you who judges me.

You use the example of Mary Magdelan, it's not like I just met my best friend and went up to her and said that. I knew her for years and there never is a "good" time to tell someone that they you don't think they are going to heaven. But, like I said, I said it, eventually she agreed and was saved, as was her husband and 2 children...

How many people have been saved by keeping quiet?


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Etherealenigma 6 years ago from Florida

To joy2unme: Thanks for your defense of my position. You hit the nail on the head and basically reworded what I said in a more straightforward fashion. Your support is appreciated, but she's just not going to (refusing) to get it.

Unfortunately, this is all about Brie, and she only seeks to justify herself and her position. She cannot see outside the self-righteous box of herself yet, and that's ok, because we all have to grow and learn. Maybe she's still too young in the faith.

She cannot be objective because her emotions are too involved and she perceives every constructive critique as an attack against her. It's just a level issue, and all we can do is go through the Conduit, and allow Him to speak to her, because it is evident that nothing we say will get through. She still needs to learn grace. Hopefully, it will come soon. Peace and blessings.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

How judgmental you are Etherealenigma!


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

I do receive from those who are spiritual, which you are not. I receive from those who know the word of God and you do not.


navARCHOS 6 years ago

Brie, I know the way to establish a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.. I m just having some difficulies in the implementation.. Not being honest with myself is a notable one..

Another thing i wanted to point out (and that it is related to the participants of the dialogues just above) is: please do not judge other people (even if they re wrong), or else, ''don't judge others, so that you won't be judged'' as it was said.

thank you


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

navARCHOS: The verse is as follows:

(Matthew 7:1) Judge not, that ye be not judged.

(Matthew 7:2) For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

(Matthew 7:3) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

(Matthew 7:4) Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

(Matthew 7:5) Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

(Matthew 7:6) Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

I will take the judgment I am giving ...and that is that the truth of the gospel must be adhered to.

All you have to do is seek Jesus, if you seek Him you will find him...ask Him to come into your heart, admit that you can't get to heaven on your own, confess your sins and tell him you want to have an intimate relationship with Him. Keep on praying, read the Bible and He will allow you to find Him..how that is done is different for everyone.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

navARCHOS: The verse is as follows:

(Matthew 7:1) Judge not, that ye be not judged.

(Matthew 7:2) For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

(Matthew 7:3) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

(Matthew 7:4) Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

(Matthew 7:5) Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

(Matthew 7:6) Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

I will take the judgment I am giving ...and that is that the truth of the gospel must be adhered to.

All you have to do is seek Jesus, if you seek Him you will find him...ask Him to come into your heart, admit that you can't get to heaven on your own, confess your sins and tell him you want to have an intimate relationship with Him. Keep on praying, read the Bible and He will allow you to find Him..how that is done is different for everyone.


Steve 6 years ago

I think Catholics are indeed Christians as they believe in Christ as the propitiation for sins. But I think many are wrong about what it means to be "born again." I have been involved with both the Catholic Church and the church of Christ which seem to be on opposite ends of the spectrum as to doctrine but both believe in Christ as Savior.

Jesus very plainly says you cannot see those that have been born again because they have died and been raised in the Spirit. That hasn't yet happened to anyone posting here, although yes, the Spirit indwells believers and you must have it to born of the Spirit when you die.

Read John 3:8 again. It is very plain and means what it says, and fits very nicely with sowing and reaping when the bbody dies and the "crop" of the Spirit grows.

Jesus also said that flesh and blood can not enter the Kingdom nor see it. If it simply means having the Spirit indwelling us or is a popular catch phrase among evangelicals, then we should be able to see the Kingdom after being indwelt by the Spirit.

Nicodemus, didn't get it because he thought of birth as from his mother's womb. Many today don't get it because they haven't truly died and been "born again" yet in a spiritual body which is required to see the Kingdom and cannot be seen by those still on earth. Yes, they have been buried and raised in baptism, but we can still see them and they cannot see the Kingdom nor enter it while in the flesh.

Jesus' term "born again" is not just a symbolic ritual but something that happens after being raised in an incorruptible body as He was.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, "Verily, verily I say unto thee, unless a man be born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God."

4 Nicodemus said unto Him, "How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?"

5 Jesus answered, "Verily, verily I say unto thee, unless a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, `Ye must be born again.'

8 The wind bloweth where it will, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto Him, "How can these things be?"

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, "Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

I am not trying to argue, merely trying to provide a little different point of view you may not have thought about.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Jesus very plainly says you cannot see those that have been born again because they have died and been raised in the Spirit. That hasn't yet happened to anyone posting here, although yes, the Spirit indwells believers and you must have it to born of the Spirit when you die.

Where is this in the Bible? It doesn't say that.


Steve 6 years ago

It is John 3:8 in my original post from the New King James version. Here is it is from the Amplified Bible. Note that it talks about the wind, which we cannot see. It then says that those born of the Spirit are the same as the wind. "Such are those that are born of the Spirit." You cannot see them - they are like the wind. You can observe the evidence of the Spirit being indwelt in them "...and though you hear its sound."

This correlates perfectly with other scrptures that talk about planting a corruptible body (flesh) and reaping an incorruptible one (spirit).

Nicodemus clearly understood that "being born" was being born into the world in flesh, else he would not have asked if a man could enter again into his mother's womb. What he did not understand was "being born again" occurs after death of the physical body at which time we are born into the Kingdom of God which flesh and blood (Spirit inside or not) cannot enter.

John 3:8:

The wind blows (breathes) where it wills; and though you hear its sound, yet you neither know where it comes from nor where it is going. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

It says that you don't know where it comes from nor where it is going...NOT THAT THEY ARE INVISIBLE. You are twisting the scriptures.


Steve 6 years ago

Not my intent to twist Scripture. You cannot see anyone who has gone into the Kingdom. You cannot see the Kingdom while alive. Flesh and blood cannot enter the Kingdom, therefore you must be "born again" as a spirit creature, like the risen Christ, to see it. "My Kingdom is NOT of this world." It says, like the wind, those who are "born again" cannot be seen coming or going.

"Born again" is not a phrase on a bumper sticker or a physical experience. Baptism merely plants the seed of the Spirit in the body which must be transformed at death. We are born into this world from our mother's womb. We are born into the Kingdom by the Spirit after we die.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

That's ridiculous and illogical.


solo 6 years ago

I used to have a few friends that were baptised Catholics. After spending a few years around them, I became influenced & join the Catholic Church. At the same time I started doing up some scripture readings and bible studies. I even read up THE IMITATION OF CHRIST. I came to realised those friends of mine are doing the eaxct opposite of God's will. I became so disgusted that I stopped contacting them. However, I still believe in God and always pray that I will be able to follow God's will.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Solo: Join a Bible believing church and attend a Bible study..if for some reason you can't get out Chuck Missler is a wonderful teacher and he is all over the internet.


A True Believer 6 years ago

Brie, I have read the comments in this posts and I believe your intentions a good. When the text of the Bible was translated into English there was a message to preface the Word from the translators. They attempted to the best of their knowledge to translate the words into meanings of their time; however, they knew there would be misunderstandings. There have been many translations since, and the Word has been changed in meaning, even diluted as such. When you say that Christ said you must be born again; the true translation from the Greek, since we are speaking of the New Testament, should have been "born from above." This in essence is why an earlier poster tried to explain the existence of the flesh being and the spirit being that we all have. Also, to be of a denomination means to divide, which is the true opposite of Christ's teachings. To be a Christian is not a religion; it is a REALITY! The Bible also says that "who so ever believes" will be accepted in the the kingdom of God. I does NOT give the person(s) a license to do anything they wish in the flesh, because if you truly believe, you do not wish to offend our Lord in any way possible. To another commentor who mentioned about wearing pants by women; this has nothing to do with that whatsoever. It means a woman taking a place of a man in a sexual act. So many people get this wrong; and it is taught in many churches. I, for one, know personally a Catholic who is a devout Christian. He is my husband and I dare you to question he walk with the Lord. I can personally attest to his personal faith and his walk with the Lord. Please do not make flat statements, where you do not know from where you speak! I am not here to chastise you, only to explain that you will be able to attract more people to the Lord by being a more graceful servant. When Jesus chastised the so-called priests in the synagogue, you must remember who they were. The chief priest was appointed by the Roman governor from the current religeous group in power. If you knew that Christ described many of them who questioned him and wanted to kill him; they were the Kenites, sons of the first murder, Satan. You must study deeper into the scriptures to be able to discern the true meaning. As with Paul, who wrote most of the New Testament, taught on three levels. Many did not understand, as is also today. I wish you the best as you truly learn the meaning of the words and not just correct someone who paraphrases a portion of the Word, as long as they do not distort the meaning. That is too alturistic and self-serving and not loving your fellow man. Isn't your true purpose to get people closer to God? One more thing; if you think the Catholic church is teaching lies, there are many other churches that are teaching lies that a just as much a cause for people not to go to heaven. There are a lot of pew potatoes out there that pontificate they are Christians and never read the Word.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

True Believer: You touched on so many points I hope that I can address them all. First of all being born again and being born from above are the same thing, they are not mutually exclusive and it is required in order to be saved. The Demons know and believe Jesus but they are not saved. Secondly, Jesus said do you suppose that I have come to bring peace on earth, he said no I have not come to bring peach on earth but a sword. Here is the text:

(Matthew 10:34) Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

(Matthew 10:35) For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

I am not so concerned with pleasing men as I am with pleasing God.

The reason I chose Catholicism is because I was Catholic, my friends are Catholic and my family is Catholic. It is what I know best. I have written on other religions (Muslim) and I might write on still others but that is why I wrote about Catholicism.

I don't believe it is good to allow someone to believe they are close to God if they are not. Mormons say they are Christians as do JW's is it a kindness to allow them to pass on to hell without warning them? I think not. And to tell you the truth my life would be much easier if I did, it's the easy thing to let it happen. There is much opposition from Hell to stand up for the truth. Just check out Foxes book of Martyrs.

And, yes I agree there are many churches that teach lies and I might write about them too one day but that doesn't mean that what I have written is untrue and shouldn't be said. I have some dear dear friends that were Catholic and are now born again Christians assured of heaven; I was happy to be used by God to bring the gospel to them. Whenever I think of them I just laugh with joy because they were so angry that I said that they weren't saved and now they are on fire for the Lord.

I realize that there are a lot of pew warmers, people who are luke warm and one of these days I might write about them too..or maybe you can.

Thanks for writing


A True Believer 6 years ago

Christ approved of only two churches; they were Symerna and Philadelphia. Not in any passage does it mention that the Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, etc were approved of churches. The reason he approved of them was because of their teachings of the Key of David and who the Kenites were. Never did He mention that they baptised in order to be allowed into heaven. Christ was baptised, so we should be likewise. But the thief on the cross was not baptised, yet Christ said He would see him in paradise. Do you really believe that you must be baptisted in order to enter into heaven, when God's Word says, Whosoever believes? God knows our hearts, Satan and his evil spirits do not. They can not read our minds. They definitely know Christ or they would not have feared going back to where they came from. Christ sent them into the swine that drown themselves. If you feel it is your mission to convert Catholics for fear of their not entering into heaven, by condemning their souls; then you are preaching from your pulpit. Remember that judgment begins at the pulpit. You must be very careful; for you do not truly know their hearts. God is the cardio-knower, and only He knows. I God's Word we are to plant a seed and let God see whether it will germinate. We can overload their boat and turn people away from God if we are not careful.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

There were no Catholics, Baptists or Methodist at the time. I never said that you had to be baptized in order to be saved, I don't know where you got that from. I don't know anyone's hearts I only know what they say they believe and if they believe that there is any other way into heaven except by being born again and by having faith in the only begotten Son of God Jesus Christ who died on the cross then they are NOT going to heaven. I will do what Jesus said for all of us to do.. Preach the gospel! It is up to God and them to whether they get saved. My job is to preach.

BTW, I have never seen anything in the Bible that says we should be timid about preaching, (I've seen others that say we should be bold) no overloading the boat in scripture. Instead it says:

(Ezekiel 3:18) When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

(Ezekiel 3:19) Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

(Ezekiel 3:20) Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

(1 Thessalonians 2:2) But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention.

(1 Thessalonians 2:3) For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile:

(1 Thessalonians 2:4) But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.


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ALL4JESUS 6 years ago from USA

I needed this post! Thank you! I joined the Catholic faith because I was told they were not judgmental. The blind faith and dictatorship is what I found in actions. Irony of ironies I will be married in a month and my RCIA sponsor probably will not attend because it is not a Catholic Church - talk about the ultimate in judgmental! Oh, it hurts when we are judged.

Thank you for bravely saying what needed to be stated.

Blessings to you and your family.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

God Bless and stick to a Bible based church and you will be fine.


Hollander Price 6 years ago

One thing I don't think has been posted is the doctrine of paying money or giving valuable items as a ransom for redeeming sins, shortening a loved one's time in purgatory, or assuring a loved one's spirit makes it to heaven.

NKJV Psalm 49: 6-9: Those who trust in their wealth and boast in the multitude of their riches, none of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him--for the redemtion of ther souls is costly, and it shall cease forever--that he should continue to live eternally, and not see the Pit.

You can't put a price on the pure blood of Christ.


Hollander Price 6 years ago

I might add that very few Catholic circles actually practice this. God bless you Brie!


Hollander Price 6 years ago

Also check out Hebrew 9:22, Acts 8: 14-22, and Proverbs 11:4.


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Lora Palmer 6 years ago from Warrington, Pennsylvania

We are all as Christians one body in Jesus, and I pray that one day we will remember that our unity and love are vastly more important than tearing that body apart over misunderstandings and doctrinal differences.

Peace and love to you all.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Jesus will say to some "I Never Knew You"...read your Bible.


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Sydnianne 6 years ago from Illinois

Dearest Brie! God bless you sweet one! I am so happy that you have found a solid, real, true relationship with Jesus Christ, our Abba Father. I am not Catholic, but I have many family members and friends that are. I think the main message you are delivering through this Hub is that there is only one God, only one who willingly died for us, only one whose blood covers our sins, only one who can intercede for us, only one that made the universe, only one that loves us unconditionally, and only one who can save us and give us eternal life. Regardless of the denomination it is all about the relationship. Folks if you have a relationship with Christ, you completely understand where Miss Brie is coming from, but if you do not know Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior...seek Him out!


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Amen Sydnianne!


Anastasia 6 years ago

I guess the funny part of it all is that it is more likely that ALL the denominations are a falsehood than not. However, it would be quite ironic if in the end it was played out like in South Park where it was the Mormons that were correct.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Jesus said that the gates of hell will not prevail over his church.


Anastasia 6 years ago

So, how does your vague answer pertain to the semi-comical scenario I just painted? Do you really know with 100% certainty that the Mormons are wrong? Sorry that question is a moot point because of the answer you are going to give me next will be a summary of another passage. But I guess the main point of my response is that you may have broken your funny bone and you might want to get that checked out.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Yes, I know that the Mormons are 100% wrong, there are several books you can read about it. Jos. Smith was a scam artist and stole a lot of what he said from masonry of which his father was a member. The gist of Mormonism is that if you do good works you will get to be god of your own world. First of all there is no way that anyone can get to heaven by doing good works and secondly to say that you will be god of your own world is pure fairy tales (no where does it say that in the Bible). You can choose to believe fairy tales or you can choose to believe the Word of God.


Anastasia 6 years ago

Actually, I am not religious because... well, I am not going to slam you on your own forum but, don't you think that by using your bible to answer most of life's questions is a little ignorant. That was a rhetorical question because I do not mean to really open the wound of yours where non-believers are below you. I only really want to get to the point of how you broke your funny bone that you keep evading the discussion of... Brie, have you ever watched South Park?


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Yes, I've seen it briefly, I don't think it's funny. You use your reason (I suppose) to guide you through life, I use God's reason, we'll see who wins in the end!


Anastasia 6 years ago

I am not here for what you are arming yourself for... I would suppose a strong offense will provide a solid defense would be the continuation of your correspondence if I was. The meat of your response is that you did NOT break your funny bone, because you most likely had it removed as a child. I am not much of a fan of South Park myself, because they are annoying and vulgar. It would seem though that you just cast judgment on an entire cartoon with contempt because you, "saw it briefly". We both know you will more than likely never watch it again. Remember Brie, only you can limit yourself to what you think you have the answers to in life and only you can steal the experiences you could have had in the future. See you around...


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Whatever, I don't have time for such dribble!


ShadowKing! 6 years ago

Brie, I may not be in agreement with you on some of your Biblical perspectives, but one can use the original languages of the Bible to deflect BS and prove its flawlessness. So stick to your guns. Because, yes, Joseph Smith was a con artist: anyone who can sell 10,000+ people a Tolkien-fantasy-level story of only being able to read a revelation from God that's on "gold tablets" and by using special "eyeglasses"--is a very slick cat.

Is it not a telling accusation of doubt that Muhammad & Smith individually received their ultimate religious conversion first FROM AN ANGEL'S VISIT. Yet, all the prophets of the Bible got their initial commission DIRECTLY FROM GOD!

So who really was that angel? Gabriel? Or, perhaps, Satan disguised as "an angel of light". Hmmm, inquiring minds want to know.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Ummm my vote is Satan.


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Dave Mathews 6 years ago from NORTH YORK,ONTARIO,CANADA

Brie Hoffman: for 62 years I have attended Catholic Church.

That said, at age 13, after my confirmation which as you know is a form of Christian Baptism, as one repeats their vows of baptism.

One expresses their belief and acceptance of Almighty God, Christ Jesus and His redemptive gift through His death and resurrection, and accepting the Holy Spirit and His gifts, minus being blessed with a dunking in water.

I began reading my Holy Bible earnestly reading it, hungering to learn as much as possible about My God. As a matter of fact I read it cover to cover, twice, recognizing many if not all of the various biblical scriptures, I had learned to recognize but never tried to understand.

While finishing up the second reading, a lightbulb went on inside my head, and possibly my heart as well, and I began to realize all of the errors mistakes lies that the Catholic church had filled my head with for all of those years.

I had a long hard talk with God, and informed Him about my discoveries and all of the mistakes. God then suggested to me that if I stayed in contact with the church, that not only could I serve Him in a very special way but that I could also discover for myself, a special love for God I'd never known that would be able to reach many others.

A year later, I stumbled into my Music Ministry. I say stumbled because I was attending Christmas Mid-night Mass, and discovered this young girl who was also a fellow Highschool, student singing O Holy Night. Her voice filled the church and she sounded like an angel, looked like one too, which didn't hurt so I joined the choir. 47 years later, I'm still singing for God with two totally different choirs singing totally different types of music, one is classical, the second contempoary, and I'm loving every second, and through my music I have reached thousands of people drawing them closer to God.

But that was not the special way God was referring to though. Better Late than never, less than a year ago, I began writing here on Hub Pages and through my writings have started an Evangelizing ministry that now reaches eight thousand readers, maybe more since not every reader is a writer, and not every reader drops off a comment so that you know they've dropped by.

Sorry for such a long response. Hope it doesn't upset you.

Brother Dave.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

I have a hard time believing that God would tell you to stay in an heretical church. The Word of God does not seem to substantiate such a claim. In fact, in Revelation God tell his people to come out of a heretical church not to stay.


Lauren 6 years ago

Anyone anywhere can start a blog of why I am no longer a -----

Anyone can make an argument against any religion. It's not the religion it's your heart your faith your total devotion to God in the way you decide to find him and serve him. There are many ways to get to California which roads I decide to take are the ones best for me, the ones you decide to take are best for you. If being Catholic isn't for you so be it but why ditch the religion? I found Jesus more loving in the Catholic faith, more accepting and devoted. I could post the religion I left but I would never do that since it's not up to me to ditch them, only leave them for a road that is better for me.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Because Jesus said I am THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, there is no other way but by ME!


Jim 6 years ago

Ms. Hoffman,

Do you have a degree in dogmatic theology or ecclesiastical history? If not, then why should anyone regard your interpretation of Sacred Scripture (and by extension, history) to be of any worth?

May God bless you and grant you His divine light and grace.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Jim, I have news for you...scripture was give by God to humans...we don't need specialists like priests or supposed theologians to tell us what it means. It is self evident to those who have a heart towards God. Moreover, I've been studying it for over 30 years, I think that qualifies me.


Liz Nawn 6 years ago

Great post...I was catholic for 42 years and the LORD HIMSELF pulled me out of this curse that was given to my family. I believe it's a generational curse as all in my family are believing in it.

I was raised not to read the Bible becuz it wasn't true..really? Every single WORD of GOD is TRUE!

I was taught to hate, be jealous, envy, if you weren't catholic you were going to hell....well, I was catholic and they told me I wasn't good enough and going to hell anyway....

They are part of the new world order with the muslims, copeland, billy graham now, 'one religion' which is NOT OF THE BIBLE...

Wake up people, this was a cult & I was abused at the same time and it's a perfect mixture.

Would God really be a part of a 'religion' that hides sex crimes for years? The pope has Nazi background.....the one world order is just like the Nazis....please read your Bibles and know everything they did was opposite of what GOD wanted.

I cried for a long time becuz my life was filled with this lie & many still believe it and wonder why people walk around with hatred...because they do not know JESUS...

The ONE THING that saves your life and gives you everlasting life is the ONE THING catholicism hid...THE POWER OF THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST...you don't need some fool in Rome with his billions of dollars...ahhhh would Jesus hold onto gold and all the lies of Rome?

Research the beginning of this religion...it was based on killing people that read the Bible...becuz if you read your Bible you will know this is a LIE..a lie that is covered many millions of people...

TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!!! JESUS is all you need. A RELATIONSHIP with GOD is something NO ONE in catholicism EVER told me about..NO ONE!!!!

FIND JESUS and you will FIND LOVE...not rules, regulations that keep you from CHRIST...


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lindatymensky 5 years ago

Hi Brie! Read with interest your article and thought it was good even though I disagree, or found error, with almost everything you said! It did inspire me to write a piece on why I am a Catholic which I'm working on now. But boy on boy, I sure wish I could write (any) article that would excite this much commentary!


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Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks (I think).


bornagainCatholic 5 years ago

Well Brie, You don't know any born again Catholics? There are more than a million of us, young people, old people, priests, nuns, popes. Ever heard of the Catholic Charismatic movement? I met my Lord and Savior more than thirty years ago. My husband and all my friends are born again. We just don't call it born again. Our way of saying this is "I have had a conversion" or "I have met Jesus, face to face" Jesus is our Savior, there is no other. We are not deserving of salvation but God is all loving and all forgiving and all merciful and gives it to us a free gift. My dear sister in the Lord, the sooner we Christians stop fighting among ourselves, the sooner the world will be converted to Christ. Our back stabbing and petty arguing is causing a scandal in the world so that non-believers and other religions don't want anything to do with Christ. Jesus said that people will know we belong to Him by our love for each other. Let's love more. !!!!


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Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan Author

The people that I KNOW who are Born again...KNOW that that is what happened to them, no question. Even the Mormons call their god Jesus. Maybe it's true that you are but I stand by my statement that I personally know no one who is Catholic and Born Again and I know a lot of Catholics.

I do have love for my brothers and sisters in Christ, I just don't know that that is what you are since you choose to stay in a religion that is unbiblical.


BornagainCatholic 5 years ago

Brie, First of all anyone can say they know they are born again. Scripture says you will know them by their fruits. And the fruits of the Holy Spirit are love,peace, joy, patience, kindness, gentleness, goodness, faithfulness and self-control. I know that I had a personal encounter with the Lord when I surrendered control of my life to Him and from that moment on my whole outlook on life changed as if I could now see the world through God's eyes. When people would challenge me all I could say was I just know. I have spent the rest of my life serving God whenever and wherever He has asked me. Personally I have learned over the years that I am not a good judge of the state of someone's soul. Better to just love them where they are at, pray for them and leave the rest to God. Secondly how can the Catholic Church be unbiblical when the Bible itself has come from the hands of God through the Catholic Church. The books of the New Testiment were written over approximately 40 years and are mostly letters written by Peter, Paul and John to the early churches encouraging or reprimanding them for going astray. The Bible as we have it today was not even put together and approved in a collection until 397 at the Council of Carthage. The Bible was carefully written out by hand by monks and distributed to the churches. The Bibles were very valuable and precious. As the average person until more modern time couldn't read a word they would hear the word proclaimed throughtout the Catholic Mass and preached about during the sermon. All the beautiful art and stained glass in the churches is another way that the scripures were given to the people. The Catholic Church holds the Bible up as the inspired word of God, a love letter from God to His people. Remember nowhere in Scripture does Jesus say go and write a book, He said go and preach the Good News. And nowhere in Scripture does it say the Bible alone is our guide. It says the church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1Timothy 3 - 15) You use the Scriptures to try to justify your belief that the Catholic Church is unChristian and unholy. It seems quite unbelievable to me that the Catholic Church would have gone to so much trouble to protect and preserve a book that was filled with information to prove that it is totally wrong and totally not of God. People have used the Scriptures to prove whatever they think is true which was why Timothy said it is the church not the individual who is the pillar and foundation of truth.


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Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan Author

The Bible existed way b4 the Catholic Church...do a little research because there isn't enough room on this comment square for me to educate you. The Catholic Church is a tool of Satan to blind people from the truth. It harbors pedophiles and has burned true Christians at the stake for hundreds of years. It also kept hidden the scriptures from the lay people for thousands of years, taught unbiblical doctrines like the selling of indulgences, purgatory and the sinlessness of Mary. You are obviously blind to all of the many many sins of the Catholic church so there is no point in talking to you about it. If you were truly of God you would be more interested in the TRUTH than in your false religion.


liz towers 5 years ago

hmmmmmm.......i must say i was raised Catholic.I was baptized and had holy communion and made my mom proud going through all the 'religious' steps through my childhood. When i got older i realized that the church itself passing around the 'money bowl' and all the ladies dressed as if it were a fashion show seemed a tad like religious Hollywood if anything. Everyone there seemed like hypocrites, i was siting beside the man praying with his head bowed who was known to beat his wife living three doors down from us, the lady two rows in front was pregnant with another mans child, not her husbands, the man three seats back was also a known alcoholic and violent drunk. i started to look at these people like a bad movie... Why were they there? they showed up every Sunday to pray for their sins and the sins of others and yet, they were worse than the man on the street that never believed in a thing and had never stepped foot in a church. I never went back, i also soon realized the Vatican had more money than they knew what to do with? yet Jesus was poor? and people are starving two blocks down from their golden gated doors??

how is this correct? it;s a shame what religion had become, nothing but a 'saving face' for your neighbors game....GOD forbid people knew you were a real jerk, instead of a religious holy man in a suit and tie...but that's just my opinion....a bit off topic but hey..


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Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan Author

Liz Towers, thanks for writing and although I think we all are sinners that doesn't excuse the hypocrisy of the Catholic Church.


Marie-AnneLeClerc 5 years ago

Hello Brie, My god! I had to scroll one hundred miles to get to answer this question... I have read your article and find it very interesting. My mother who passed from cancer just early this year was a school teacher as well as a religious teacher that taught 'catechism' and was well versed in all the 'biblical' teachings.

However I also felt there were many unanswered questions. I have a deep respect for Spirituality and continue to learn and grow each day. I also feel that we will reach an age of spiritual growth and understanding that will continue to flourish and expand the concept of spiritual enlightenment.


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Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan Author

Marie, what question were you referring to? I'm glad you are writing but I don't believe that there is any true spiritual growth without Jesus Christ...everything outside of faith in him is a lie of some kind. It may make you feel better for a little while but ultimately it wont satisfy your soul and it definitely wont save you from eternal punishment.


Marie-AnneLeClerc 5 years ago

Ok so you are still a christian no doubt? Fine though I do believe that 'Spirituality" is the belief in God - no matter what Religion, decree or other. Jesus Christ -well yes of cause but also what about the other religious figures such as 'buddha' etc... the point is the teachings were as 'One' - God is in All things... There is no other teaching than the belief in God/the creator; this can be in Muslim, Greek, Chinese and in indigenous cultures- they All do believe in the One Creator... Perhaps you haven't rid of your christian doctrine which is of only one "secular' belief in the 'One God.' That is my honest opinion.


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Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan Author

Buddha or Mohammad or anyone else didn't die on a cross for my sins. There is only one way to get into heaven, Jesus said I am the WAY, the TRUTH, the LIFE, no one gets to the Father but by ME. If you don't repent and turn to Jesus for the redemption of your sins you will die and go to hell.


BANE 5 years ago

Brie....Thank you for your words. I do have a question though. What is your feeling on the religion of the Jehovah´s Witnesses? They speak like you have done. Using scriptures to support or refute things.


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Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan Author

JW is a cult, plain and simple. They deny that Jesus is God among other things.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

Edwinoel: this is nothing but Catholic propaganda which is why I wont allow it. It is right and good to divide over essential Biblical doctrines. The Catholic doctrine is heresy.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

If you were espousing truth, I would allow it but you are promoting Catholicism which is a lie..Jesus said that many will say Lord, Lord at the judgment and He will say Depart from ME, I never knew you!


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Edwinoel Tanglao 4 years ago from Los Angeles, California

If I am promoting Catholicism how come I say Jesus is for everybody, not only for Christians. If this is not true, what is? I pray that you may be enlightened further of the truth and in the true meaning of love of God and of others through forgiveness, Brie, and that is in Christ's words. Remember, divisiveness and pride is of the evil one, while the truth in love and forgiveness endures forever as God is love, and the truth will set you free. Jesus in me loves you.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

The Mormons say that Jesus is their God as well but they speak of a different Jesus than the Bible and so do you.

Jesus did not say that divisiveness was of the evil one, he said that your enemies will be of your own household.


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Edwinoel Tanglao 4 years ago from Los Angeles, California

If you believe in the truth, then you have nothing to fear as in fully trusting Jesus, it is just like telling yourself to 'Let go and let God,' as Jesus has always been telling Peter, 'You of little faith.' May the goodness and the spirit of or Lord Jesus be with you always, Brie.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

I fear nothing but I will not let my article be used for propaganda, if you wish to state your opinion on the matter write your own article.


malkia 4 years ago

brie

I am also born again christian, but I sense a lot of anger in your replies?


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

I do get angry when a religion holds itself up as the truth but then prevents people from entering into the Kingdom. False religion is a scourge and has increased the numbers in hell by a terrible amount. That should make any true believer angry.


jean 4 years ago

thank God, you left that church..i wish people would read the bible and pray to God for truth..even if they hear the truth many won't listen.. it is sad..in 2009 i learned that the 4th commandment(remember the sabbath) was changed by catholics...the sabbath is saturday NOT sunday..at first i was shocked that no preacher tells you that.. i did research and learned the truth..since then i turn to God's word only...NO man or church..just God's word..

believe me if you have any questions just pray and God will lead you to truth..he has me..

I pray that God will bless all of you....


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks Jean for commenting.


Gdw 4 years ago

Brie, Thank you for this column. I was raised protestant (Lutheran), but converted 25 years ago. For the last several years however I have been battling with my faith, and have noticed that in the process I have begun feeling as though God is now farther away from me as ever. I am struggling with many of these same issues that you and your readers have been troubled by, especially those which involved Catholic mythology. One of the things that has recently been concerning me is the whole Divine Mercy thing. Go to good Friday service, then go to confession, stay in a state of grace, and then 9 days later recite the divine mercy prayer, (Preferrably at 3:00 p.m.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

I hope you find your way to Jesus Christ Gdw. The whole Catholic system is a works based system. The bible says it is by grace we are saved, through faith, and that not of ourselves but it is a gift from God, Ephesians 2: 8 & 9.

Find a good bible believing church and attend a bible study and submit your mind to God and he will lead you into the truth.


kristinite 4 years ago

Hi Brie! I found your page through a very circuitous route searching for "news blackout" type articles and landed on your page. I'd love to forward this to a relative who was raised Catholic, I am newly saved (Satan is very crafty in keeping the SIMPLE gospel out of our hands, by convincing us there is more to it than what Christ himself said)once I became free, and have the holy spirit in me, I am able to see and discern a lot more. It's very eye opening once your blinders are off. I am very sad that sooo many people are still blind and refuse to see. I wish more Americans would come to know Christ and his simple message of salvation. Satan has a very strong influence, especially in media and all television. I am sick to my stomach that many Americans think that Christianity is found on TV with the likes of Joel Osteen etcetera, they see that and say "No thanks!" Of course it's not scripture, but they have no way of finding out. They only see what has been presented to them. I'd also like to state that I am surprised there are Christians in Manhattan, I'm serious lol :) I thought it would be impossible to find the truth, living there. I bet you're very unpopular among fellow NY'ers? Of course persecution is what one can expect being a follower of Christ. Anyway, I gave the gospel to this Catholic relative and he thought he was making me feel better by telling me he plans on going to Mass this week!! As if he is "finding religion again" sighs. Seems the message was "lost" on him. I'd like to share this website I read that really got me to accepting God's Word "jesus-is-savior.com" and he has tons of links, audio, video and also youtube "heritagebiblenorth" with Pastor Max D Younce.

Jesus-is.. website has many links to the 911 conspiracy, along with many articles concerning child abuse by those in power and hidden stories most won't see on the news, all in the name of Christ to expose the satanic agenda by those in power today. Very eye opening and scary, but not to those who are saved! I do not like Alex Jones, he "exposes" many things but never gives people the way out, nor tells them the gospel that I can see. He seems to be enforcing a message of fear and hopelessness while he SHOULD be leading those to Christ. Well, at least I find it odd as he claims to be a Christian. Thanks


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

Kristinite, I have to say when I first glanced at the length of your comments I though "Oh no, another Catholic trying to justify their religion"..because usually when the comments are that long that is the case. I was so relieved and happy to read what you wrote. Yes it is true there are VERY FEW christians in Manhattan and it is a difficult place to be a Christian for sure, not that I am the best but I'm trying.

You might try Christians Against the New World Order on facebook, they are pretty good.

And regarding Alex Jones, I agree with you. I don't like that he claims to be a Christian but does not give the Gospel, however, I do listen because you can get news on his show that you can't get anywhere else..so I put up with the other..which I hate.

Keep trying with your relatives, keep praying, I do as well. My best friend was Catholic, she taught in a Catholic school and she got saved..it is one of my greatest joys in life to know that we will be in heaven together. And to give you a glimpse of the situation she didn't talk to me for years when I confronted her about her salvation, but finally came around and her husband too who was going to divorce her, he also became a Christian. God works miracles! Keep the Faith!


D. Albert 3 years ago

I am a Catholic of long standing. I continue to be a Catholic because among all the Christian denominations, it is the most reasonable and balanced one.


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Brie Hoffman 3 years ago from Manhattan Author

It's not biblical and that is all that matters. And because it isn't biblical it gives people a false hope when in reality they are heading to hell.


Roxanne 2 years ago

I was raised Catholic. At times I have doubted my religion. Most of the times I have loved my religion. It is very beautiful and spiritual. I feel very close to my Lord at my church. I doubt certain aspects of my religion. I feel all religions are good and that we are all trying to reach the same goal. To go to heaven and to be with our Lord. Our religions have their down falls and are not perfect.

As for not being a Christian, I have always loved the Lord with my whole heart and soul. I have hurt when I sinned. I have strayed and come back with repentance to the Lord in shame. I have felt that he has forgiven me.

I feel that Mary is special to Jesus because she was his Mother here on earth. He loved her as all sons do their Mothers. The saints are God's gifts to us on earth to show us how we should live our lives. We pray for our family members to God. We pray for what we need. God answers all our prayers whether it is yes or no.

Jesus was not a "Christian". He was not a Catholic or a Protestant. He was a Jew. I believe whatever religion you are, as long as you are of Christian faith, believe, and live a Godly life along with it, you will enter the gates of heaven.


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Brie Hoffman 2 years ago from Manhattan Author

Roxanne, it doesn't matter what you believe if it doesn't square with the Bible, it's not true.


Elsa Greshner 22 months ago

I agree with this hub. And sadly My whole family is Catholic but I have been straying away. After going to a bible teaching church, my family threatened to kick me out. Im only 18, where would I go? God knows I want to be right with him especially now that he has revealed things to me but how can I ?


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Brie Hoffman 22 months ago from Manhattan Author

Go back to the bible teaching church and maybe they can help you.

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