Why The Churches Are Wrong About So Many Things

One of the most difficult things to do when destroying evil false doctrines of the church is to answer critics who contend that sheer numbers of supporters should be enough to validate those doctrines. They will claim that so many can't be wrong and so few can't be right. They will throw out names of theoligians and so called bible experts by the 100s. My response is generally that the bible expressly states "many called and few chosen". But they still fail to apply this truth to the world of theology and continue to believe that billions of Christians over 2000 years could be considered few. Let me just make one thing clear:

I don't claim to be of the chosen at this time. I don't believe anybody knows all there is and is right about every doctrinal belief. However, if something can be substantiated by numerous scriptures (God's sovereinty, salvation of all, spiritual blindness of the world) then I don't feel one bit self righteos by proclaiming it and denouncing heretical teachings against it. Now I'll admit, it hurts to say that the majority of church teachings are unscriptural and it hurts more to state that so many nice church goers have evil in their hearts for believing and teaching such a blasphamis concept as eternal hell. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not calling people "evil" who believe this. Many are freightened not to believe it. And many of these hell teachers do good works in this world and believe that they are saving people from a most terrifying afterlife. I get it, folks. But the eliment of evil comes from not seeking the truth of the real God of Love. Learning these wonderful truths can only happen if Christ calls you to them at this time. Now, on to what I wanted to show:

Of great importance is proving that man on his own cannot see spiritual things.

1 Cor. 2:14

But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

But God actually takes responsibility for the blindness of man.

Ex. 4:11

And the Lord said unto him, who hath made man’s mouth? Or who maketh the dumb, or deaf or the seeing, or the blind? Have not I the Lord?

Since this article is not about crushing the free will doctrine, I will move on to what the Bible says about the many in these last days (last 2000 years).

So, Who Are the False Prophets Today (for the last 2000 years)?

Rev. 17:4-5

“Mystery Babylon the Great, The Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth”

What do they do?

Isa 30:10

Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: (Just listen to Joel Olstein sometime.)

Remember, this is spiritual language. Most of these false prophets probably believe that they are speaking truth but are not. And what is the spiritual Jew? This is a term for one who knows Christ for who He is and are Christ like.

Rev. 2:1, 2, 9

I know the Blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the Synagogue of Satan.

II Cor. 2:17

  1. For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ (KJ)
  2. For we are not, as the many, driving a petty trade with the word of God (New Trans., By J.B. Rotherham
  3. For we are not as the majority, who are peddling the word of God (Concordant Literal New Testament)
  4. For I seek not Profit by setting the word of God to sale (Conybeare)

What do the churches do? They seek prophet by peddling the word of God. The spiritual Jew does not.

Now let's be clear about something: These false prophets didn't move in recently. When does Paul say they will begin spewing false doctrine?

Acts 20:27-32

. . . . For I know this, that after my departing shall Grievous Wolves enter in among you, Not Sparing the Flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking Perverse Things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

This is similar to:

Deut. 31:29

For I know that after my death you will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days: because you will do evil in the sight of the lord, to provoke Him to anger through the works of your hands.

When are the latter days?

Apparently sometime after the death of Mosses and Paul. (Wait, I thought churchians said that it was only in these last years when a very few stop believing in doctrines of the church, and begin teaching ridiculous doctrines such as “Christ will save all”).

1 Tim. 4:1-2

Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron.

Is all of this talking about those today who leave the church?

Nope. This all began in the latter days 2000 years ago after Paul’s departure.

II Pet. 2:1-3

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privately shall bring in damnable heresies,. . . . And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of the truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you. . .

II Tim. 3:13

But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

II Tim. 4:2-4

. . . shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. (The Church in Paul’s day had the truth)

Now, I've already said that these false prophets believe what they are teaching. Most will believe them right up until the day that they see Christ face to face.

Matt. 7:22-23

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not:

  1. Prophesied in Thy Name (atheists and pagans don’t do this)
  2. In They Name have cast out devils (atheists and pagans don’t do this)
  3. And in Thy Name done many wonderful works? (atheists and pagans do nothing in the name of Christ)

And then will I profess I never knew you: Depart from me you that work iniquity.

It says many. These many are not atheists or pagans. They are the very people that overrun the Earth with their many false doctrines, especially that damnable hell doctrine.

Jer. 5:31

The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means and My people love to have it so. . .

Jer. 50:6

My people have been lost sheep: Their shepherds have caused them to go astray. . .

Matt 24:5

For many shall come in my name, saying, I (Jesus) am Christ, and shall deceive many. (Who are the many?)

Mark 4:15

And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown, but when they have heard, Satan comes immediately, and takes away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Matt. 10:17

But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues.

Iv'e heard enough stories about people being ostrisized by their church when they speak out against false doctrines. They are often asked to leave.

John 16:2

They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time comes that whosoever kills you will think that he does God service.

What is the Great Whore? Is it the political systems of the world? Is it the atheists and pagans? It may be worth noting that this whore is female, just as the real Church of Christ is female. Could it be the false churches? Let's see.

Rev 17:1

And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, come hither; I will show unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sits upon many waters (not some obscure group of people)

Rev. 18:2-4

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, come out of her My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. (What do you think her stands for? It ain't the political systems or atheists.)

II Thes. 2:9,10,11,12

The coming of the lawless (the wild beast, I believe. He’s in all of us) one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Mark 13:22

For false Christs (Which Christ do you believe in? The savior or the failure?) and false prophets will arise and perform signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect. (Benny Hinn comes to mind)

In scripture, the light of the moon represents the truth reflected by the church. Why in Revelations, does it say “the moon shall be turned to blood”?

In Closing:

What does God now think of Jerusalem?

Rev. 11:8

And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city (Jerusalem), which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

And why are we held accountable (not responsible) for our sins and deceptions in this life?

Mark 13:23

But be on guard; I have told you all things beforehand.

Again, it is difficult to point something so truthful out to so many good people. Living and believing lies for so long only to have your most cherished beliefs exposed must be difficult. Everyone I've spoken to that knows these truths used to belong to one or several different churches for many years. They were called out of the system by Christ (notice Rev. 18:2-4). While God's chosen are commanded to come out of "her", in actualality, they are dragged out of her. And don't feel obligated to send money to one of these institutions because:

A Little From Ray’s Tithing is Unscriptural in the New Covenant:

  1. Only Levite priests could collect tithes, and there are no Levite priests today.
  2. Only food products from the land were tithable (only land owners tithed).
  3. Money was never a titheable commodity. (Yes, they had money back then.)
  4. Christian converts were never asked to tithe anything to the Church.
  5. Tithing in the Church first appears centuries after completion of the Bible (by the Catholics, of course).

By the way, it was Caesar’s image on the coin and not God’s. God has no use for money.

Just wondering: Even if God commanded ten percent of my salary, just who would I give it to?

 

 

I leave you with this e-mail and reply of Ray Smith of bible-truths.com.

Ray

God bless you.

I have a tough question for you.

I would like to know prophetically/scripturally what is to be the end of Islam. What will be the end of those who continue to follow the Islamic faith?

I would also like to know prophetically/scripturally what will be the end of the Jews--those who continue to follow Judaism?

Please share your insight prophetically/scripturally.

Pastor Rich

[Ray Replies]

Dear Pastor Rich,

Thank you for your email and questions.

Are you sure you want the Scriptural answer to your questions?

It is interesting that you picked Islam and Judaism to know their fate. I am curios as to why you didn't include Christianity in this list?

The Islamic faith bears no resemblance to the Teaching of Jesus Christ and the Apostles. There is but ONE NAME under heaven by which men MUST be saved, and that name is Jesus Christ. All those who reject Jesus Christ, He will reject them. Not for eternity, but in their first life. Islam is decidedly NOT the Faith of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Judaism is a totally corrupted version of the religion of the Old Testament Israelites. The Jews, likewise, as a nation, as a race, and as a religion, TOTALLY reject Jesus Christ as their Saviour. Jesus will, likewise, reject them. Not eternally, but in their first life.

Now then, Pastor, we have a far larger and far greater and far more evil religion extent in the world today than either Islam or Judaism. Gee, who could they be?

"And the woman [a woman is used symbolically to represent a church in Scripture] was clothed with purple and scarlet, and gilded with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand, brimming with ABOMINATIONS and the UNCLEANNESS of the PROSTITUTION of her and the earth. And on her forehead is written a name:

Secret
Babylon the Great
the mother of prostitutes
and the abominations
of the earth"
(Rev. 17:4-5).

Now notice Rev. 18:4,

"And I hear another voice out of heaven, saying, 'Come out of her, My people, lest you should be joint participants of her sins, and lest you should be getting of her calamities, for her sins WERE PILED UP TO HEAVEN, and God remembers her injuries."

Do you see that God plead with "HIS PEOPLE" to come out of her? What great religious system of this earth is God pleading for His people to COME OUT OF? Islam? Judaism? Hinduism? Confucianism? Jehovah's Witnesses? Mormonism? Hardly.

Notice again,

"Hither! I shall be showing you the sentence of the GREAT PROSTITUTE who is sitting on MANY WATERS [peoples and nations], with whom the KINGS OF THE EARTH [this church is not off in a corner some place, she is consuming the very 'KINGS OF THE EARTH'], commit PROSTITUTION [spiritual idolatry], and those dwelling on the earth [that's a lot of people, Pastor, 'THOSE DWELLING ON THE EARTH'] are made DRUNK [spiritually] with the wine of her PROSTITUTION." (Rev. 17:1-2).

· What HUGE religion is blanketing the earth like no other religion in the history of the world?

· What religion teaches the most hideous and damnable false doctrines far worse than any pagan or heathen religion in the history of the world?

· Which religion teaches that Jesus Christ is NOT THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD, THAT HE WILL NOT SAVE SINNERS, THAT HIS MISSION WILL BE A FAILURE AND A SHAME, AND THAT HE WILL, IN FACT, THROW BILLIONS AND BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF MEN AND WOMEN AND BOYS AND GIRLS INTO A HELLHOLE OF FIRE AND BARBECUE MOST OF HUMANITY FOR ALL ETERNITY WITHOUT HOPE OR WITHOUT MERCY???

Now maybe you are beginning to see where God is going to lay much blame for the darkness of spiritual deception covering the world today.

Hope this helps your understanding a little better.

Thank God there is coming a white throne judgment and lake of purifying FIRE to cleanse the world of all the carnal-minded darkness that mankind has wallowed in for centuries.

May God continue to guide you into His perfect will for your life!

Sincerely,

Ray

 

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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Well, I hope Ray Smith is not accusing CHRISTIANITY of the following, and I quote, "Which religion teaches that Jesus Christ is NOT THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD, THAT HE WILL NOT SAVE SINNERS, ..."  First of all, your reference to Matthew 24:5 can be read here (understood) to mean these false doctrines will say that 'Jesus is the Christ'.  You have misunderstood this passage.  What it means is, false doctrines will claim that "THEY (using 'I') are the Christ" (the spirit of anti-Christ").  This is indeed blasphemy and they will not see the Kingdom of God.

Read the entire chapter of 1 John 4.  Anyone who claims Jesus is the Christ is OF GOD!!

I totally support the tithing issue.  You are right on.

We know that Satan diguises himself as an angel of Light (the same word used when Jesus is called the Light of the World).  Pharoh had magicians that could perform the very signs and wonders Moses performed.  We are not to follow AFTER signs and wonders, but know that signs and wonders FOLLOW THEM that believe.

I can't stand lies.  Satan is the father of all LIES and purposely lies. He knows God's word and purposely TWISTS it so as many as can "miss the mark" (sin).  Satan doesn't love anyone (as those who follow him claim).  Misery loves company.  Satan lost the battle at Calvary.  He's got a gang mentality and wants to deceive people and turn them against God.  It's purely a competitive, selfish motive.


Hell N0 7 years ago Author

First of all, no, it is you that misunderstands what Ray and I are saying about Matt 24:5. Those who believe in false christs are calling those false christs the real thing. How does one read an entire article claiming Christ to be the Son of God only to misunderstand something written, and try to discredit that person? Unbelievable. Oh, and if you think Christians believe that Christ came here to save all sinners then you haven't been to church that much. Most believe that christ came to save some from some unholy hell and the rest will suffer eternally. What a sick, disgusting fable. By the way, are you aware that God created Satan to do exactly what he does? Of course you're not. You are really going to force me to post an entire survey of scriptures that no "Christians" actually believe. And since you hate lies, I would advise you to stay away from churches.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Actually, we've then misunderstood each other where Matthew 24:5 is concerned. Any false doctrine that does not claim Jesus as the Christ and claims to be a false "Christ" is certainly the spirit of anti-Christ. I believe it is God's will to save ALL. It says this in scripture. I don't believe all people will CHOOSE to be saved (and we disagree that man has a will). Understood. Yes, I believe God created Satan to do exactly what he's doing to give people a choice. I do believe churches teach incorrectly, some probably outright LIE knowingly, but like you, I study to understand the best I can and not fall victim to any false teaching (as much as is possible).


Hell N0 7 years ago Author

I never said man doesn't have a will. I said man does not have a free will. That, would be impossible.


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jacobbsladdr 7 years ago from Washington DC/Northern VA

Indeed Christianity and the many religions DO indeed claim that God is unable to Save sinners.  A post on here has incorrectly stated that Sinners go to Hell.  Not only is this unscriptural.  It is blasphemy towards God. 

Some are very quick to point out that someone else has misunderstood the Scriptures when in fact, it is them who misunderstand and promote falsehoods in regards to God's Word.

I am not personally attacking anyone.

No man has seen God, yet some claim God was in human form when visiting Abraham.  People contradict the Scriptures because they do NOT know the Scriptures.  Either the Bible is the infallible Word of God and not subject to confusion or it's not.   

The workings of Satan have deceived the whole world including the ones whom God would later call to be His elect: “And then shall that Wicked [‘Lawless One’—the beast within all of us] be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming: Even him whose coming is after the working of Satan [It is not Satan, but is ‘after the 0working of Satan] with all power and signs and lying wanders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God [yes, God Himself] shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie [Gk: ‘the lie’]…” (II Thes. 2:9-11). And just how much of mankind and how much of this world has God given to that same Old Serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, to deceive? “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which DECEIVES THE WHOLE WORLD” (Rev. 12:9).

“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible they shall deceive the very elect” (Matt. 24:24) Once one becomes a member of God’s very elect, he can be deceived no more. Don’t you be deceived. This verse does not say: “Satan, which deceives the whole world (except the two billion twenty-first century professing Christians of the world).” No, Satan deceives “the whole world,” including the two billion professing Christians...

How many have escaped the deception of Satan by the use of their “free will?”  Not one man possesses a will by which he can freely resist Satan. If we are to “resist the Devil so that he flees from us,” we will need the power of God’s Spirit in us.

You can not have the Spirit of God in you when you don't believe God's Word and you have turned God into a powerless human man who can't do anything right.  His "perfect creation" has failed, he can't win in a fight against Satan until a future time but Satan will win millions of souls that belong to God.

God is in control of ALL.  Many do not believe marvelous truth because currently God has blinded them as Jesus truthfully states in Scripture.  There are a few who are not blinded.  Others would do well to listen for a change and stop letting their pride and ego blind them.

EVERY scripture I have read contesting Hell NO's posts have been distorted and or twisted to serve a false belief system.  There has been NO honest study of the Scriptures performed.  Thinking that just because you have large denominations behind you that believe the same thing only proves & reinforces the understanding of the truth that ONLY the FEW will understand but the MANY will not.

God does not lie, God does not confuse.  God does NOT change.  HIS will is done.  Not yours, not mine and not Satan's. According to Christianity, God our Creator is powerless, God the Creator has been seen in human form, God our Creator can't do anything right. Everything he does malfunctions. Everything God, our Creator has created can operate outside of God's control. God doesn't force anyone to do anything. Yet ZERO legitimate scriptures are used to explain this heretical claims. Yet, these same people feel the need to STAND up and call out others out? These others who promote the GOOD NEWS, not the Good News for the self righteous and the BAD NEWS for Most

Stop trying to save souls for Jesus. That's Jesus's job AND one in which he has already SUCCEEDED AT. Christ is the SAVIOR OF THE WORLD and p.s. The WORLD means THE WORLD, that includes EVERYONE!

Believe the Scriptures & BELIEVE GOD! NOT Babylon.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Jacobsladder: I will quote some of your comments and respond as follows:

"Indeed Christianity and the many religions DO indeed claim that God is unable to Save sinners."  I believe these so-called Christians are wrong.  God is able to forgive our sins, the Bible says.  He came to save ALL sinners, but not all sinners will receive Him, thus His forgiveness.

"No man has seen God, yet some claim God was in human form when visiting Abraham."  Jesus Himself said, "If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father".  If God is a spirit, then yes, no one will ever SEE God (only in form of an angel or human...a fire....however He chooses to reveal Himself, one way being in His Son, Jesus Christ.

"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved."  See the criteria for salvation?  We must receive the love of the truth.  That's why the words "might be" (based on the criteria) is used.

“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible they shall deceive the very elect” (Matt. 24:24)  Notice "if it were possible".  This shows that that motive of the false prophets are especially to deceive God's elect, but IF is a strong word.  It does not state God's elect WILL be deceived.

Not one man possesses a will by which he can freely resist Satan. If we are to “resist the Devil so that he flees from us,” we will need the power of God’s Spirit in us.  YOU ARE CORRECT.  That is the prerequisite!!  "we need the power of God's Spirit IN us".  AMEN.

Though you have twisted the God is in control issue, God truly does control Satan.  Look at the story of Job.  God limited Satan as to what he could to to Job, and God also permitted Satan to do certain things to Job.  God also enabled Job to resist Satan and stay strong to his faith in spite of all the persecution.  God does the same for His own today.

"Every SCRIPTURE I have read contesting Hell NO's posts have been distorted and or twisted to serve a false belief system.  There has been NO honest study of the Scriptures performed."  Not only have I utilized actual Scripture verses/passages, I have given word definitions as well.  We both believe each other is twising scriptures according to doctrine and without proper study.

"According to Christianity, God our Creator is powerless," (No, God is all powerful and will send Satan and his followers to an everlasting hell when that last day comes (the wheat from the tares).

"God the Creator has been seen in human form,"  He has.  Jesus said, "If you've seen ME, you've seen the FATHER." God is Spirit and reveals Himself through Jesus Christ and whatever form He so chooses. Satan is also spirit and reveals himself through mankind, and even the Serpent. When the "serpent" had his head crushed at Calvary, this means Satan is forever defeated (and those who follow him). That is God's control.

"God our Creator can't do anything right." Christians do not claim this.  God has a perfect order and has a reason for all things.  He says, "All things work together for good TO THEM THAT ARE THE CALLED according to His PURPOSE." (Romans 8:28).


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Regarding the "DIETY" of Jesus Christ as a man:  Let's look at Isaiah 40:3 which prophesied the coming of the LORD (Jehovah) as a man: "A voice is calling, 'Clear the way for the LORD in the wilderness; Make smooth in the desert a highway for our God."

Then, we look at the New Testament in the book of John 1:22-23: "They said then to him (John the Baptist), 'Who are you, so that we may give an answer to those who sent us?  What do you say about yourself?' 23 He (John) said, "I am A VOICE OF ONE CRYING IN THE WILDERNESS, 'MAKE STRAIGHT THE WAY OF THE LORD,' as Isaiah the prophet said."

Yes, JEHOVAH (God the Father) came to us IN the PERSON of Jesus Christ (Spirit), yet remained in the heavens because we see that Jesus prayed to Him.

God is omnipresent. He is everywhere, not merely in ONE place. AMEN.


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jacobbsladdr 7 years ago from Washington DC/Northern VA

It's funny to read your posts where you twist it to make it appear as if others are saying God is powerless.  It is almost laughable Carrie how you flip flop and take what others post as your own when it suits you.   Half the time, I don’t even think you yourself know what you are saying.


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jacobbsladdr 7 years ago from Washington DC/Northern VA

Repenting of your past sins, accepting Jesus as your Saviour and receiving God’s Spirit does not pronounce you “SAVED.” 

It is not the conclusion of your spiritual life, but rather the very beginning.

What Paul did is called “overcoming,” and it’s the hardest thing in life to do, but the rewards are high.

A few fringe benefits are:

Access to the TREE OF LIFE, which means you will be given immortality, never die again or fear death or worry about death.

You avoid THE SECOND DEATH, which is not only the second death spiritually, but all the judgment and stuff that goes with it.  Why? Because you are judged now, if you are judged here you don’t need to be judged and condemned with the world later.

You get a NEW NAME, this means a lot of things, but it’s like you have to believe in the name and the name is everything that it represents and not just a new name, a better name.

POWER over the nation.RIGHTEOUS garments, which mean we will be clothed in a perfect attitude, perfect righteousness.

Your new name will be CONFESSED BEFORE GOD THE FATHER.Made a PILLAR, a mainstay, a vital support in the Temple of God.

SIT WITH CHRIST IN HIS THRONE.(Rev. 2 & 3)

That’s a lot of good stuff.  In fact here’s a problem with it.  It’s too profound, we almost don’t even meditate on it.

See if you could go into some kind of training and after so long you would be like a cabinet member of the president of the United States, you would say that would be pretty neat.  You might put up with a lot to go into some kind of training like that, because you would hob knob with the president on Air Force One, that a pretty neat plane.  You would meet all the other royalty around the world and so on and that would be pretty good.

Don’t you reckon this is a little higher calling then that?  It is a high calling!  Really high!  Probably too high for our spirit to take it in.

We’re just... oh okay that is pretty cool.  But it really is great and I suppose, I’m thinking the further we go in life, if we believe these things, then it becomes more tangible.  Not only will we believe them and think about them, we’ll start expecting them.

Where the King James uses hope the Concordant uses expectation.  We will expect it, we’ll be looking for it that much.


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jacobbsladdr 7 years ago from Washington DC/Northern VA

The Churches don't even understand how to be saved.  They are still following physical rituals that they think make them spiritual.

The churches are full of nothing but lies... ohh Babylon you are falling!  Praise God!

Here is the briefest outline of how God  "saves us:"

Jesus Christ must first "CHOOSE" us (John 15:16).

You don’t choose Him until He first chooses you. You have no "free will" by which you choose Christ. Christ CHOOSES YOU, or you aren’t chosen.

The Father then "DRAWS" [Gk: ‘drags us’]" us to Christ (John 6:44).

You don’t come without an invite. What may seem like a "free choice" on your part to come to Christ, in reality is the Father dragging you by many unseen circumstances beyond your view or control.

By GRACE, God gifts us with FAITH

Eph. 2:. Both are from God; man contributes NOTHING. If you don’t give God credit for all of your faith then you don’t have any faith, because faith comes ONLY from God.

Then "the goodness of GOD leads you to repentance" (Rom. 2:4).

Our repentance originates in GOD, not in ourselves. If God doesn’t lead someone to repentance then they CAN’T REPENT.

We are spiritually "BAPTIZED into Christ’s death" (Rom. 6:3).

"For he that is dead is freed from sin… For SIN SHALL NOT have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under GRACE" (Rom. 6:7 & 14).

And it is the grace of God ONLY that will save us. But HOW and WHEN? What does it mean to be "under grace?"

Answer:

"For the GRACE of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, TEACHING US [Gk: ‘to train, educate, discipline, punish, chasten, instruct, learn, teach’] that, denying ungodliness and worldly lust, we should live soberly [with a sound mind], righteously, and GODLY, in this present world" (Titus 2:11-12).

If you are not doing this and growing every day, then you are not being graced by God, and you are not on your way to salvation.

The grace of God WILL DISCIPLINE AND CHASTEN us into obedience to all of God’s Spiritual laws and commandments.

"Whosoever will come after Me, let him DENY himself, and TAKE UP HIS CROSS, and FOLLOW ME" (Mark 8:34).

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