Young Earth Creationism is a cult full of fools and liars

Young Earth Creationism is a cult full of fools and liars. This cult teaches and preaches an Earth of around 6,000 years old, dinosaurs coexisting with humans, and a global flood around 4,400 years ago. What this cult does is turn people away from Christianity because of all its nonsense.

Ellen G. White: "The flood was global and I did not masturbate!"
Ellen G. White: "The flood was global and I did not masturbate!" | Source

Seventh-Day Adventist roots of the modern Young Earth Creationist cult movement

Henry Morris, founder of the modern Young Earth Creationist cult movement and founder of the Institute for Creation Reasearch, got his science, particularly flood geology, from Seventh-Day Adventist George McCready Price. Price got his flood geology from his fellow Seventh-Day Adventist Ellen G. White. She got hers from visions.

How credible is Ellen G. White? This is what she said about female masturbation in her work A Solemn Appeal:

"Females possess less vital force than the other sex, and are deprived very much of the bracing, invigorating air, by their in-door life. The result of self-abuse in them is seen in various diseases, such as catarrh, dropsy, headache, loss of memory and sight, great weakness in the back and loins, affections of the spine, and frequently, inward decay of the head. Cancerous humor, which would lie dormant in the system their lifetime, is inflamed, and commences its eating, destructive work. The mind is often utterly ruined, and insanity supervenes.”

From the article at Wikipedia on Flood Geology:

‘Ellen G. White's visions were the spur for several books by one of her followers, George McCready Price, leading to the 20th century revival of Flood geology. In 1942, Henry M. Morris was persuaded by Irwin A. Moon's Sermons from Science of the importance of harmonising science and the Bible, and was introduced to the concepts of a vapor canopy causing the Flood, and its geological effects. About a year later he found George McCready Price's New Geology a "life-changing experience", and joined the Deluge Geology Society. His book That You Might Believe for college students included Price's flood geology, and was published in 1946.’

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_geology

Morris wrote many subsequent books including The Genesis Flood. What is real funny is that many Young Earth Creationists do not even know of the Seventh-Day Adventist connection. Those that do are in denial on the matter, as they are on science.

Young Earth Creationist: "Well sure the Earth looks like it is around 6,000 years old from that pic taken from Apollo 17. The science that sent us to the moon proves the Earth is around 6,000 years old."
Young Earth Creationist: "Well sure the Earth looks like it is around 6,000 years old from that pic taken from Apollo 17. The science that sent us to the moon proves the Earth is around 6,000 years old." | Source

The Earth is not around 6,000 years old.

I don’t so much take great issue with Young Earth Creationists saying the Bible indicates that the Earth is around 6,000 years old. They base that mostly on the chronology of Bishop James Ussher. That chronology was in the King James Bible for a couple hundred years. For example, the date 4004 BC was printed in the margin right next to the verses in Genesis. Those dates were removed from the King James Bible due to lack of credibility. Now, I believe that the Young Earth Creationist interpretation of the Bible is wrong, but they have a whole lot of other interpretations that are wrong, like they are all going to be raptured away like in the Left Behind books, leaving us who don’t believe Young Earth Creationism here to deal with the Antichrist.

What I really take issue with is when the Young Earth Creationists say that science “proves” their 6,000-year-old Earth, dinosaurs coexisting with humans, and a global flood around 4,400 years ago. There is absolutely nothing published in any reputable scientific journal to support such conclusions. These Young Earth Creationists get their pseudoscience from websites like Institute for Creation Research (the organization Henry Morris founded), Answers in Genesis (Ken Ham’s website), and Creation Ministries International. They get their pseudoscience from Ken Ham’s Creation Museum in Kentucky and Dr. Dino’s (Kent Hovind) Dinosaur Adventure Land in Florida (before the government closed it down and put him in prison) instead of getting their science from real museums like the Smithsonian and the Carnegie.

From a “How Old is the Earth?” article:

“By dating the rocks in the ever-changing crust, as well as neighbors such as the moon and visiting meteorites, scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years.”

http://www.space.com/24854-how-old-is-earth.html

Young Earth Creationists will tell you that dating methods are flawed to the extent that they are totally unreliable. That is not true. Reputable scientific sources will tell you that dating methods, although not perfect, are reasonably accurate such that the age of the Earth of around 4.54 billion years old is considered to be a fact.

Young Earth Creationist: "This proves dinosaurs and humans coexisted!"
Young Earth Creationist: "This proves dinosaurs and humans coexisted!" | Source

Dinosaurs did not coexist with humans

Dinosaurs became extinct around 65 million years ago, long before any humans existed. Young Earth Creationists will tell you all sorts of nonsense about dinosaurs. Like fossil footprints have been discovered that contain both dinosaur and human footprints, which proves that they coexisted. This is not true. No such fossil footprints exist. The latest Young Earth Creationist rage is claiming that soft tissue found in dinosaur fossils proves that such fossils are thousands rather than millions of years old. Again, not true. There is no evidence in any reputable peer-reviewed scientific journals that this is true.

Young Earth Creationists will tell you that ancient drawings of creatures that look something like dinosaurs prove that the humans who drew them had seen dinosaurs. Ridiculous. Artistic expression takes liberties such that the subject does not have to be real. I do, however, believe in mermaids because I’ve seen ancient drawings and paintings of mermaids. (Cough)

Young Earth Creationist: "This proves the flood was global. Look how tired Noah and his family are from shoveling all the Young Earth Creationist crap."
Young Earth Creationist: "This proves the flood was global. Look how tired Noah and his family are from shoveling all the Young Earth Creationist crap." | Source

Noah’s Flood

There is no credible scientific evidence that there was a global flood around 4,400 years ago. There may have been a flood local to the Mesopotamia region, but not a massive global flood that caused most of the geological record we know today.

This article entitled “Problems with a Global Flood" by Mark Isaak discusses many of the issues:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html

Here are just a few of the issues mentioned:

6. Implications of a Flood

A global flood would have produced evidence contrary to the evidence we see.

How do you explain the relative ages of mountains? For example, why weren't the Sierra Nevadas eroded as much as the Appalachians during the Flood?

Why is there no evidence of a flood in ice core series? Ice cores from Greenland have been dated back more than 40,000 years by counting annual layers. [Johnsen et al, 1992,; Alley et al, 1993] A worldwide flood would be expected to leave a layer of sediments, noticeable changes in salinity and oxygen isotope ratios, fractures from buoyancy and thermal stresses, a hiatus in trapped air bubbles, and probably other evidence. Why doesn't such evidence show up?

How are the polar ice caps even possible? Such a mass of water as the Flood would have provided sufficient buoyancy to float the polar caps off their beds and break them up. They wouldn't regrow quickly. In fact, the Greenland ice cap would not regrow under modern (last 10 ky) climatic conditions.

Why did the Flood not leave traces on the sea floors? A year long flood should be recognizable in sea bottom cores by (1) an uncharacteristic amount of terrestrial detritus, (2) different grain size distributions in the sediment, (3) a shift in oxygen isotope ratios (rain has a different isotopic composition from seawater), (4) a massive extinction, and (n) other characters. Why do none of these show up?

Why is there no evidence of a flood in tree ring dating? Tree ring records go back more than 10,000 years, with no evidence of a catastrophe during that time. [Becker & Kromer, 1993; Becker et al, 1991; Stuiver et al, 1986]”

Pope John Paul II: "I told those dimwitted Young Earth Creationists that mermaids are just as real as dinosaurs coexisting with humans. The proof is this Warsaw coat of arms."
Pope John Paul II: "I told those dimwitted Young Earth Creationists that mermaids are just as real as dinosaurs coexisting with humans. The proof is this Warsaw coat of arms." | Source

Conclusion:

As I have clearly demonstrated, Young Earth Creationism is a cult full of fools and liars. The most prominent spokesperson of this cult is Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind). Dr. Dino is currently incarcerated in a federal prison as a result of being convicted of numerous fraud-related felonies. Ken Ham (he debated Bill Nye, the Science Guy) stepped up to become the number one Young Earth Creationist loon. The “scientific” material at his website Answers in Genesis is best described by those who are smarter than a fifth grader as a very funny novel.

The most pathetic Young Earth Creationist cult dominated forums I have seen belong to Christianchat.com. The administration of this website fanatically promote Young Earth Creationism, as do the overwhelming majority of the members. The few dissenters often get banned. The Young Earth Creationist cult clones make the same posts on thread after thread, but when they are effectively refuted they go back and hide under the 6,000-year-old rock they came out from under. Only to come back on the next thread related to Young Earth Creationism and post the exact same nonsense again that was already effectively refuted. What are these people thinking? Nothing, apparently. It’s quite the comedy caper and reminds one of The Three Thousand Stooges.

I plan to write more specific articles on some of the subject matter in this hub.

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Comments 23 comments

Frank Pastore 17 months ago

Excellent article. Interesting that you did not mention evolution. YECs typically rant and rage on evolution, calling it the spawn of Satan, a religion, and all that crap.


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Ruthie93 17 months ago

Lol. I love your hubs. Informative and very funny.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 17 months ago from Blitzburgh area Author

@Frank Pastore

If YECs can not understand that the Earth is older than around 6,000 years old, that dinosaurs did not coexist with humans, and that there was no global flood around 4,400 years ago, they have no hope of understanding evolution.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 17 months ago from Blitzburgh area Author

@Ruthie93

Rather than go on about lesbianism in the comments on that other article, I think I'll write a hub specifically on lesbianism. And I bet it will make you laugh.


Pastor Ralph Dougan 17 months ago

This article is worse than that other one. The Bible says creation occurred a little over 6,000 years ago. Kent Hovind was persecuted by the government for his religious beliefs. He does not belong in prison, just as the Apostle Paul did not belong in prison.


popeye 17 months ago

you are les bian jack just like katlin jenner. no wonder you so messsed up yuou evolved into a lesbian.i told you evoution cause homo


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Ruthie93 17 months ago

Can't wait for your new hub on lesbianism. Please make it something I can show to my father!


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 17 months ago from Blitzburgh area Author

@Pastor Ralph Dougan

Kent Hovind (Dr. Dino) is a convicted felon as a result of being found guilty of numerous fraud-related crimes. In his YEC cult propaganda videos, he bragged about how he avoided paying taxes and encouraged other Christians to do likewise. You know, violate the law.

His PhD dissertation proves he may be smarter than you, but he is not smarter than a 5th-grader.

I suggest this "Is Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) a total joke?" discussion for your reading enjoyment:

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/11...


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 17 months ago from Blitzburgh area Author

@popeye

No doubt Pastor Dougan will applaud your Post #1448 on the "Is Dino (Kent Hovind) a total joke?" discussion where you said:

"Evolution begins with idolatry and ends with homosexuality."

You two should get a room.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 17 months ago from Blitzburgh area Author

@Ruthie93

Let me ask you some questions.

King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines, right?

So, he entertained each lady, what, once every couple of years?

What did these ladies do while they waited a couple years for their turn?

Would God really expect these ladies to suppress their sexual desires for a couple years?

That doesn’t sound like God to me, does it you?

Perhaps Pastor Dougan or popeye can answer these questions.

Or maybe not.

Ruthie93, you might want to ask your father these questions.

Or maybe not.

I really would like to know what Ellen G. White thinks about these questions.

Ellen G. White probably did think about these questions and she got so confused she came up with the flood geology that the Young Earth Creationist cult still uses today to confuse the confused, and themselves.


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Ruthie93 17 months ago

You talk to my father.

He never believes me.

I read some of that popeye's posts on that thread at Christianchat.com.

What is his problem?

Other than he must love Dr. Dino, what with his 5 pages of quotes from Dr. Dino.


Yancy 17 months ago

You mentioned the Carnegie. Took my wife & 2 sons there yesterday afternoon. The “Dinosaurs in Their Time” exhibit is incredible. My 11 year old is fascinated by dinosaurs. He believes they lived millions of years old. My 6 year old must be a YEC. He thinks we should get him a pet dino and he wants to name him Dippy after the Carnegie’s mascot. Then at night we went to the Pirates game. That too was incredible what with the Cutch homer in the 14th. What a game!


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 17 months ago from Blitzburgh area Author

@Yancy

I've been to the Carnegie at least a dozen times over the years. Now there is where you find real science. I have never been to Ken Ham's Creation Museum in Kentucky. Going there is hazardous to your health, as in brain cells get destroyed.

Raise the Jolly Roger! Another huge win for the Pirates over the Cards last night in extras.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 17 months ago from Blitzburgh area Author

@Ruthie93

I might be persuaded to talk to your father. Is he a Pirates fan?

I don't know exactly what is wrong with popeye, but he might want to consider suing the doctor who performed his frontal lobotomy.


Dr. Edward Stuart Smith 16 months ago

I am a palentoligist. This research paper proves that carbon-14 dating methods are worthless:

http://dinosaurc14ages.com/carbondating.htm

The research paper says: “Our group of cutting edge scientists have directly dated dinosaur bones from TX to AK and even China. The alleged 100 million and 150 million year old specimens above were dated by C-14 methods and found to be only thousands of years old.”


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Link10103 16 months ago

From what little i know/remember, carbon dating works up to about 50,000 years. Anything past that is speculation.

I would imagine thats why scientists dont bother using/primarily relying on it anymore...


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Ruthie93 16 months ago

My father is a Yankees fan. I don't follow baseball all that closely but I will watch some of the home run derby tonight. Chicks dig the long ball! Maybe that's why so many are lesbians. How is your article coming?


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 16 months ago from Blitzburgh area Author

@Link10103

Exactly.

Carbon dating is good for around a max of 50,000 years. Everybody knows that.

But in this research paper Dr. Smith cites, they use it on dinosaur bones that are millions of years old. Of course it won't work. Everybody knows that. But that doesn't stop these Young Earth Creationist scumbags from trying to pull off a scam.

That website Dr. Smith cites is full of distortions, misrepresentations, and outright lies. I'll be elaborating on that when I have more time, tomorrow, or whenever, soon. Another day isn't going to make any difference to a dinosaur bone that is already over 65 million years old.

But as another example of the lies at that website, there is no credible fossil footprint evidence of dinosaurs and humans existing at the same time. All that so-called evidence that website provides has been thoroughly debunked. So much so that even your major YEC propaganda machines tell their groupies not to use it as proof that dinosaurs and humans coexisted.

Yeah, and I doubt he is a paleontologist. If he was, he most likely could spell the word correctly.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 16 months ago from Blitzburgh area Author

@Ruthie 93

Here's a new dino for you named Wendi introduced by the LA Times:

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-sn-new-dinos...

Wendi roamed the Earth 79 million years ago, not less than 6,000 years ago.

How about that Todd Frazier?

The only thing I don't like about him is that he usually kills the Pirates.


Elijah from Christianchat.com 16 months ago

I miss your posts on CCC. You destroyed the YECs time after time. No wonder they banned you.


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Ruthie93 16 months ago

That Wendi the dino is one horny girl. Probably a lesbo dino.

I only watched part of the first round of the homer derby but I did see Frazier. Kind of a little guy, compared to Prince anyway.


Budman 16 months ago

God create the world to look old while in reality the creation was around 6,000 years ago because thats what the Bible says.

TinTin was absolutely right.You articles are slander.


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BLACKANDGOLDJACK 16 months ago from Blitzburgh area Author

@Budman

Even your main YEC website Answers in Genesis thinks the “appearance of age” argument is stupid and should NOT be used by Christians. Here is what they say:

https://answersingenesis.org/creationism/arguments...

‘When dealing with issues about the age of the earth, many people defend the young-earth position by claiming that even though the world is young, God created it to “look old.” In other words, they say, God created the universe with the “appearance of age.”

God is not a deceiver. He cannot lie. Numbers 23:19 states, “God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?” So why would God try and deceive us by creating things with the appearance of “age.” Why would He make the universe look “old” when it is not?

God has told us the truth in His Word. He originally created many things mature and fully functional. He did not create with the appearance of “age.” This is an argument Christians should not use.’

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