Youth Ministry is Segregation in the Corrupt Church System


There are startling statistics that "church" youth ministries have been ineffective. Two-thirds of the youth are going to abandon the church. There is something that is hindering them from growing up and the result produces “fake” Christians. The gospel of fun, games and flashiness have replaced the genuine Gospel of Jesus Christ. Generations of youth have abandoned the faith and do not want to respect the Word of God.


  • What is the inspiration behind so many youth turning their backs on the Christian faith?
  • Why do they not respect the church and have contempt toward Christian responsibility?


Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it. – Proverbs 22:6


Simply put, the answer is summed up in this Scripture verse. If the generation of our youth are not trained in the way that they should go, there is a failure.


  • Who is responsible?


The modern "church" of today is structured with the youth ministry. It consists of fun and games peppered with a Bible verse here and there. Under closer inspection, the youth ministry has always been a hindrance to the gospel and is harming the family and the Church. What usually resonates with the youth about their leader was that he is a cool guy who could relate to them on the same level. This may sound harmless, but the statistics show that more than eighty percent of the youth that come out of these programs have turned away from their faith in God.

The modern "church" youth culture says that by going to fun “Christian” concerts with light, smoke, and music are a way of bringing them closer to God. The youth are exposed to the worldly experiences and call it “Christian.” Music and entertainment are emphasized over sound Biblical teaching, which means that the truth of God’s Word has taken a back seat to fun, games, and parlor tricks. The distinction between worldliness and Christianity has becomes blurred into the same thing.

Many of the youth believe that the Bible is not literal, but uses figurative language. “It doesn't matter if God created the world in six days, or over a course of millions of years because what really matters is that Jesus Christ died on the cross for me.” The problem arises when we start to reinterpret the Bible through the lens of man’s ideals in one area of the Bible, it then opens the door to applying it to the other areas as well.

  • Why do the youth have so many doubts about God?


This is even happening with the kids who are living in a Christian home with their parents.

The masses of youth are attracted, the money is there, the events are stellar, but there is no fruit that results.


  • When these kids go to bed at night, do they really know who, or what "it" was all about?


Smashing watermelons, making music videos, and watching Harry Potter; what has this really accomplished in their hearts? The hip folk hero youth leader is nowhere to be found in Scripture.


  • Are we as parents taking responsibility for passing Scripture and its principles on to our children?
  • Is it the youth pastor’s role to do so?
  • Is being a master at fun and games with a MTV atmosphere to get people in the door really going to bring a generation up on fire for Jesus Christ?
  • Is this the representation of the authentic Gospel of Jesus Christ?
  • The youth want something that is authentic, but does that come with premeditated man-made programs?


The real definition of authenticity comes from something that is true and real and is not contrived. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is not a consumer brand that is sold to the masses. The modern "church" promises truth, but it is relative. They have opened their arms to the foolishness of the world’s ways to reach the youth of today.

What it boils down to is when you contrast the foundation of what the real authentic Church of the Bible should look like, it in no way resembles the modern "church" at all. If Scripture was acknowledged as the standard for the church, youth ministry would cease to exist.

Plato
Plato
Jean Jacques Rousseau
Jean Jacques Rousseau

Primary source documents reveal that the origins of youth ministry and Sunday school come from ideologies of men like Robert Raikes who attempted to reach prisoners and under-educated kids with his social reform programs. His prison program eventually failed and the error of his Sunday school program can be seen by its affects today. It is apparent that the family nature of the Church has been destroyed for segregated ministries and "church" programs. Fathers and mothers have relinquished their responsibility to disciple their children and the youth have become segregated into their own culture. The pattern of "church" education has become exactly the same as the secular world. The church hallways and the school hallways are no different. The youth are chattel who go through a series of processes or curricula into segregated age groups and become products of the “Gospel.”



  • What happened to the Biblical principle of children being discipled by their parents?
  • When did the church become a segregated classroom environment?
  • When did it become inappropriate for adults to be segregated from youth and youth segregated from the children?
  • Could we be seeing the borrowing and acceptance of evolutionary thinking in the modern "church?"


A brief understanding of the historical roots of the modern "church" youth program methodologies lead all the way back to 380 BC where the philosopher Plato had the idea that children must be separated from their parents. In the 1700’s, Jean Jacques Rousseau believed that education of the children is more important to the state than to their families. And, as already mentioned, Robert Raikes founded a social reform program called Sunday school for street children. G. Stanley Hall applied Darwinian evolution to child development theory, and John Dewey instituted the age segregated learning environment.

It is obvious the modern "church" has embraced these humanistic seeds and the bad fruit has manifested. They modern "church" fails to realize that the ideologies of these men were at war with God. The modern "church" has become a reflection of Athens, not Jesus Christ.

Discipline and instruction.
Discipline and instruction.

In contrast, there is a term called “family discipleship” with a purpose to encourage everyone to respond to God, and equip families to do what He has called them to do. It is not about whatever makes man respond, that is the distinction between starting points. Instead of Biblical foundations, secular psychology and pragmatism are being used as an extension of the Gospel, which means that man’s ways are better than embracing the principles in Scripture. Innovation that promotes reaching to culture with principles and forms of worship that God does not accept is dangerous and apostate.

Uzza in the Bible, with good intentions tried to save the Ark of the Covenant from falling to the ground, but he did it in a way that God did not accept and he was killed (1 Corinthians 13:9-10).

It is quite clear that the modern "church" today has promoted “death.” They have reached out and grabbed the things of the world against what God has explicitly made clear in His Word. When we do not follow the inspired pattern of the Apostles, we neglect their authoritative and binding testimony.

The New Testament Churches were age integrated; the children were right there in the meeting. Older men and women discipled the younger generations. From the Old Testament to the New Testament, you find the unsegregated assembly of the believers who were men, women, and children. When an usher tells you that you cannot bring children into the sanctuary, it negates what Jesus Christ said in the Bible,


But Jesus called them to him, saying, “Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of God. Luke 18:16


When entire households and families can come together in unity and worship Jesus Christ as the head of the church, it is a beautiful thing. As parents of youth, we are to communicate the truth of God’s Word to our children while they are living with us in our house holds.


  • What does family discipleship look like?


Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother” (this is the first commandment with a promise),“that it may go well with you and that you may live long in the land.” Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord. – Ephesians 6:1-4

Father or Youth Pastor?
Father or Youth Pastor?

Fathers, it is your duty to love your children enough to teach them God’s Word. We disciple the children we love, to the God we love.


  • When we truly understand the blood that Jesus Christ shed for all of mankind, how can we not make His love the focal point in our children’s lives?


All the money and man hours of youth ministry is Plan B. It is a secular plan that has its origins in pagan ideologies. What looks like success is a deceptive illusion. The statistics cannot be denied. When God is denied, His life changing power is denied.

The problem has become twofold. The “Christian” home has not stepped up to the plate to take responsibility for their God given role. The parents have become negligent in their responsibility and duty to disciple their children. Additionally, the church has not created the unsegregated atmosphere to equip fathers to thrive in their role as a parent. What corrupts the family and the church is allowing things that are completely foreign to Scripture to take precedence. Youth ministry has turned the father’s attention away from their Biblical duties and given them an easy out. When the church authority usurps the parent’s duty as acceptable, it makes you wonder who is the authority and head of the church.

Having over eighty percent of youth, which include those who are on the fence and those who have turned their back on God is unacceptable as they transition into adulthood. The youth pastor and their leaders will be held accountable before God for promoting “another Jesus,” and “another Gospel.” To be blunt, when the church paves the way to hell for the young generation, the Bible has a description for those who endorse this type of rebellion.


Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ – Matthew 7:21-23



You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.Shall we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than he? – 1 Corinthians 10:21-22

Daughters too!
Daughters too!

As a father, I want my children to see me as their hero and want them to hang around me. I want them to come and ask me the hard questions, not to go to some immature, hip, youth leader/ entertainer. Man-made tradition says that youth ministry is essential to the modern "church," but it is a compromise of secular ideals. It is doing more harm than good to families because it usurps the authority that God has given to the family, especially the fathers.

When the true Biblical standard is applied, it admonishes the fathers to turn their hearts toward their children, and the youth pastor becomes an irrelevant and clear hindrance to family unity. God has appointed fathers, not the youth pastor to lead our children. It says nowhere in the Bible that someone with an institutionalized degree, or seminary training qualifies someone to have spiritual jurisdiction over our children.

The institutionalized modern "church" are doing exactly what the secular philosophers have promoted by replacing family responsibility with social programs. The modern church has infringed on the role of the parent.


  • Is the modern church supposed to take care of "it" for us?


Biblical nurturing and correction are the parent’s responsibility in a child’s life. The parents are the ones who have the tools to shape the younger generation. Trained kids are the result of responsible parents, not the institution. When the parents outsource their responsibility, the family unit crumbles. In and outside the church, fathers have neglected their role and it has manifested into generations of youth who do not have any positive father figures. The institutionalized church is trying to fill that void with youth ministry. When we are willing to obey God in a specific area such as do away with the youth ministry office, the fruit of it will result in inclusion versus segregation.

The true Gospel is about bringing all people together no matter what culture, age, gender, or race. In the true Church, there is a vast array of gifted people who can fill the void of the fatherless. The true church of Jesus Christ has many grandfathers, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, aunts and uncles in the faith who can care for a lost generation.

A group of peers within a youth group is not a stable family environment. What creates stability is equipping fathers to do their job. Youth ministry steers a child’s heart to their peers, youth pastor, boyfriends, or girlfriends and creates an unbiblical, segregated environment. God did not ordain youth ministry, but He did create family and harmony within the Church. Each of us have responsibilities to be obedient to what is clearly laid out.

Throw out the tradition of man.
Throw out the tradition of man.

There is absolutely no evidence of youth ministry and its patterns in Scripture. If you are youth leader, this will be very counter cultural to you, but I guarantee that whatever counter arguments are contrived, they will have no biblical foundation. The results and statistics cannot be refuted. When we enter into a jurisdiction that God has not given us, the results will be spiritual death.

The Word of God is sufficient. We do not want to stand before God thinking that we "helped" Him out by grabbing a hold of fallen humanistic ideologies. The Word of God, the duty of the Church, and the responsibility of the family is clearly laid out. Throw out the garbage of the man-made traditions and allow the power of Jesus Christ to take hold. The simple solutions of truth will take courage to uphold. The modern institutionalized church will “kill” you for it.


  • Are you willing to “die” for the truth of the scripture?
  • Are you willing to trust in the truth?


The modern "church" has abandoned the principles in discipline and training; the devastation is evident.

Abandon the conventions of man and become part of obeying God’s plan for family, youth, and the Church, and become reunited with the true and genuine plan of Jesus Christ.



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lifegate 3 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

P&N,

Amen . . . Amen . . . Amen . . . . I could Amen every statement you mentioned. I've seen so much harm to our youth from so called "Christian" youth groups. One would have to look far and deep to find any redeeming good in them. And as you point out one way or another, it's really we as parents who are to blame. Thanks for another on spot hub.


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krillco 3 years ago from Hollidaysburg, PA

I'm with you on the need for movement to family ministry, but fear that you may be throwing the baby out with the bathwater in rejection of children's and youth ministry. The issue for me is integration of these; there is still much value in age specific faith based activities for kids. To state that all youth ministry is shallow and worthless is profoundly in error. Dogmatic, canvased declarations such as yours about the lack of value of youth ministry are as bad for the faith as is the watering down in many youth ministry efforts.


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PlanksandNails 3 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Krillco,

(" To state that all youth ministry is shallow and worthless is profoundly in error.")

Why do the statistics say otherwise?

If something is damaging to the faith of segregated group of people, why is the person facilitating the evidence bad for the faith too?

Please clarify what you mean by "integration" and "age specific faith based activities."

There is no throwing out the baby with the bathwater because family ministry is the foundation of the genuine church. It man-made traditions and programs that are spiritually corrupting the youth need to be thrown out, not the youth themselves. When the church functions as it should, there is no need for integration because it is already in one accord and in unified harmony with Jesus Christ.


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North Wind 3 years ago from The World (for now)

I have met many a youth who goes to Sunday School every Sunday, who is involved in dance in the church, youth choir and every single family day that there is and every youth I have spoken to knows little to nothing about the Bible and can tell me nothing about what they believe concerning Jesus Christ.

They can sing contemporary Christian songs that sounds a lot like secular music, they can tell me all about the latest movies and they are willing -more than willing- to talk about the things of this world. But they are uncomfortable when talking about the things of God and generally do not bring up the Bible and God unless someone asks them about it. I am not convinced that God is in their thoughts at all and this is disturbing.

They doubt God, they doubt the Bible and they embrace the world. They do say the things that you say they do, stating that what the world says can coincide with God and He can fit into the world's imagination of Him. They learn to put a limit on God and they doubt His All mightiness.

These children also have disciplinary problems. Their parents always expect the teacher or the Sunday School teacher to spend time chastising them and they do nothing, or barely anything, to keep them on the straight and narrow.

Separating the children from the adults is the worst thing that could have been done, in my opinion, because children need adults to be examples to them as Paul wrote to Timothy. Just as Paul was an example to Timothy, so was Timothy an example to someone younger than he was.


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Terri Collins 3 years ago

Amen,I believe the same way . Some of the concerts or drama's are like being in a rock concert.I see no Jesus in them at all.


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celafoe 3 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

wonderful article. the scriptural pattern is one meeting with the children at their parents feet. AND parent that understand it is their responsibility to teach their own children. and that have the scriptural understanding to correct anything that is wrong or that their children might misunderstand. If there is something that is way off base the wise parent just removes the children. parents that allow their children to go somewhere without them being present to be taught scripture are just plain foolish And no matter who teaches them the father will answer to God for it. The handful of times my 8 children were without me in a "church" setting were followed by an intense discussion of what was said. Brother I would like to talk with you , You have spent much time in the woodshed too

Keep up the good work


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PlanksandNails 3 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Celafoe,

It is comforting to know that there are like-minded people out there. I have noticed that they are more rising out of the wood work sounding the horn and a raising a voice of urgency. The genuine church is not about the playground, but the battlefield. So many are in slumber believing the false doctrines that are spewed from the pulpit. Every verse of the Word of God in proper context will be contended by the lukewarm religious man. It is time to throw out the apostasy with truth.

I find that most people that disagree with my articles are the salaried hierarchical ministers who are defending their man-made titles and positions. It's the title that the pinners of religion give them for identity. It's time to for them to step down, step aside, and let the Holy Spirit move. If they don't get down from the pedestal, God will send those to start clawing at it. The higher the pedestal the bigger the fall.

True leadership starts after the breaking process.

Thank-you for the encouraging comment.


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celafoe 3 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

I have found exactly the same. I have been teaching these things for almost 40 years now and it is really difficult to find people that are not "church" indoctrinated in the USA. I have spent time in several foreign countries and find the American apostate church way has been exported, but the difference is they want TRUTH and are open to what scripture really says , where the American churches brand you as divisive and chase you off. Most of my time is spent working with Home Churches, I gave up on the churches of men years ago and spend my efforts where Truth is appreciated.

Its that liberal/ socialistic philosophy that is prevalent. Of course all this is to be expected as Peter and Paul et al warned us this was to come. I am really enjoying your articles , Keep up the good work.


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Efficient Admin 3 years ago from Charlotte, NC

"They have opened their arms to the foolishness of the world’s ways to reach the youth of today."

What came to my mind was the hard rock music, loud guitars, concert strobe lights (you know, things that make my head hurt and draw my mind away from meditating on God).

Also these kids need adults around them so they learn how to act right, rather than being let loose to "hang out" with each other all night with very limited adult supervision. This is a really great and insightful hub. Thanks for sharing. Awesome! voted up and across.


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PlanksandNails 3 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Efficient Admin,

Thank-you for you comment and appreciate you thoughts.

Youth ministry has become all about creating a carnival atmosphere, which creates the absence of thought. Cotton candy is served, and the results are youth who have no critical thinking skills, or discernment. The preoccupation with hype, experience, amusement and entertainment has nothing to do with the genuine Gospel. The youth pastor becomes the circus clown called to entertain the parents kids in a spiritual amusement park.


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Efficient Admin 3 years ago from Charlotte, NC

Hello PlanksandNails -- and that's why the youth abandon the faith and go crazy (i.e. partying, alcohol, etc...) once they go to college. They didn't get the foundation while in the youth group. It's a real shame. Kids today really need our prayers.


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PlanksandNails 3 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Efficient Admin,

Not only do they need our prayers, but the parents need to take ownership and responsibility for their children's spiritual food. The youth ministries have enabled abandonment and segregation from the very people who are able to encourage and foster them with their relationship with Jesus Christ.

I am encouraged that you can see it for what it is. It is a subject that many do not want to hear, but must be exposed for what it is. Parents need to take back their youth from these modern church programs before it is too late.


SimplyI 2 years ago from Ontario, Canada

There is actually a baptist "pastor" who teaches exactly the same thing on sermonaudio. His name is Jason Cooley (undid the corporation status of his church too). Thinking about and seeing the consequences of modern youth programs in my own family, I heartily agree. I even contacted Awana leader for Ontario, Canada about this issue and slipping in contemplative practices, but he ignored me completely.


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PlanksandNails 2 years ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Simlyl,

We need to take our kids back. Unfortunately, it is a hard thing to unindoctrinate your kids when they have been in the church system most of their lives. The salaried youth minister/ entertainers are not going acknowledge that they are nowhere to be found in Scripture.


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Hannah David Cini 21 months ago from Nottingham

Lovely article. I think a true church family should encourage relationships between different age groups with older mentoring younger and younger inspiring older. I have been to churches where they seem to inadvertently break the family up with women's group one night, men's another and youth a time after that so time spent as a family and whole is really eaten into.


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PlanksandNails 21 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Hannah,

The Church system does not really resemble that which is attested in Scripture as people are separated by the clergy into different classes by age, gender and social status with men with special distinctions and titles that create a separation between the pew-warmers and the salaried officials upon their stages. These are not found among the early Ekklesia.

Jesus Christ considered and called his followers brethren and said the greatest in the Kingdom would be servants. Salaried church officials in a hierarchical system cannot deem themselves as servants because they are hired hands.

He who is a HIRED HAND and not a shepherd, who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches them and scatters them. He flees because he is a HIRED HAND and cares nothing for the sheep. - John 10:12-13


Alan 2 months ago

Articles like this always hurt to read as they come out of a close-minded place without a true acknowledgement of how the Spirit can work through a variety of ministry contexts.


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PlanksandNails 2 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Alan,

If you are wanting to correct, then please provide your evidence accompanied with the standard of Scripture to back up your statement.


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celafoe 2 months ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

ALAN-- Unfortunety you have just told us that you care more for the doctrines of men than those of God. If it works, in your opinion. its good.

That makes it clear you have drunk the koolaide of the church system instead of the life giving waters from Jesus, how sad.


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Efficient Admin 8 weeks ago from Charlotte, NC

I feel like a lot of churches in my area "idolize" the youth. I go to a ladies evening bible study every year at a certain Baptist church, and about two years ago they made us switch our schedule and classrooms because they were renovating the "youth area" where we were having our study. Keep in mind this "youth area" was already very new and sparkling clean. They wanted to add flat screen TVs and who knows what else.

I made an observation to the leadership that I felt they were putting the kids before studying the Word, and that the church is teaching kids the world revolves around them -- but when these same kids grow up and go into the real world, they will find out the world does not revolve around them. So I feel these churches are setting the kids up for disappointment. Just my two cents.


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PlanksandNails 8 weeks ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Efficient Admin,

You make some valid points. Many lack the biblical understanding of what it means to be part of the body of Christ.

People join buildings called churches where they expect to be served, fed, entertained and cared for. Even the youth have this same sense of entitlement, rather than having servant mentality.

What is called youth "ministry" today is simply an agenda to entertain with the latest gimmicks run by a babysitter they call "youth pastor."

Youth "ministry" is a cliché night of entertainment with some sort of short watered message from the Bible in a fabricated glorified coffee shop setting, or nightclub atmosphere.

Will they learn how to serve others, pray, learn the Word and follow the way of Christ?

I doubt it.

You are right, they are set up for failure, but their parents are to blame. What do they know? They were brought up the same way too.

It is the parents responsibility to disciple their kids, not hand them over and segregate them with a glorified babysitter a couple of hours a week.

Most want fun and games conforming to the likeness of the world to say relevant, rather than knowing what it is to be set apart.

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