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Jeff Shirley says
Nicola Thompson says
Rosana Modugno says
Joseph A K Turner says
You don't have to be believe in oxygen to breath it. You do not have to believe in Hell to end up there. Jesus taught about hell. If you don't believe Jesus, you have much bigger problems.
But Jesus loves you, & died for your forgiveness. Bel
Neither Jesus nor Paul taught about some hell. There is no hell in the OT so his listeners had never heard of it. He taught about Gehenna, Ben Hinom, Hinom Valley. Go look up what Israel did to their children there, then ask if God will do the same.
With all due respect Disappearinghead, What Bible are you reading. It talks about the devil and hell throughout the bible. Who do you think convinced Eve to eat of the forbidden fruit?
@JT. The bible I read would be an interlinear Greek NT or a Jewish OT. What do you read from?
There are no demons in the OT. Jesus never mentioned hell (read a Greek) and the snake was the yetzer hara or evil inclination (read a Jewish commentary)
Then who was it that God allowed to torture Job? Who tempted Jesus in the wilderness for 40 days and forty nights? Jewish people do not believe in Jesus. Why would they have anything to do with the NT?
Your denial of the truth does not change it. There are different words for death. That doesn't mean that hell & the eventual lake of fire in outer darkness are not there. They are there & real & No one has to go there. Jesus offers li
There is no record of any angels in rebellion in the OT. The word 'satan' is the Hebrew for accuser or opposer. It can apply to a man or an angel of the Lord (Num 22:22) in the Hebrew. In Judaism this satan is an angel that God sent, his servant.
Jesus said that, Mt 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
If you don't believe Jesus, you have bigger problems than what we can fix.
I don't see why we must disagree or agree on this. Most importantly how each of us perceives hell is dependent on his own beliefs. Jesus meant hell, as far as I understand it, metaphorically. Certainly what matters are our good deeds.
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast
Ephesians 2: 8-9
Ah the old problem of only reading English translations and ignoring the OT because of a perceived idea they have been superseded.
This is from the NT.
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Andrew Grosjean says
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Jose Juan Gutierrez says
Hell is for those who reject Jesus Christ as Lord, who don't admit they are sinners in need of a Savior. I won't go to Hell if I sin. I love God, accept Jesus' sacrifice for my sins. I fear sin only because I love God desire to follow Him.
The same is true of my son. He loved the Lord so much as a child, but his parents' divorce and college influence eroded his faith somehow. I only pray for him because he already knows the truth. I just believe God will draw him back.
It's normal that people have doubt about God--what that means to each. When your son has your approvla, undivided attention and love, he will soon understand that that's what God is all about.
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Apostle Jack says
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That is very true, I don't doubt it, fear is a great way of keeping control
So does that mean that we cannot have morality without religion?
I'm sorry, But that is one of the most judgmental, generational statements I have ever read.
True, in a sense. The Church after Augustine borrowed the Egyptian, Greek and Roman myths of hell to keep people in line, just as they had done for centuries.
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