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Best Answer William E Krill Jr says
Why did I choose this one for Best Answer? Because such a simple statement encompasses all that is wrong with the world. We disagree with someone, then spit venomous statements at then to convince them we are right. Not clever. Thank u Krillco
Jlpark: Since when is the truth "venomous"? I would rather have one person who speaks the truth than 10,000,000 gain-sayers.
It's not what is said, it's how it's said. The same things said by two different people in two different ways can change the truth to venom. If u approach something with respect, it comes across as such. If u approach it with force, it becomes venom
I think an unwanted truth will always sting unreceptive ears regardless of the delivery.
jlpark, venom has nothing to do with force, poisonous words with ill intent is what is meant not force, articulate sarcastic people do it all the time to others who are less articulate, usually to try and make themselves look good.
It does when it comes from a place of fear or hatred - which both seem to come together.
The truth doesn't bother me, CJ, doesn't sting either. Seems to get a rise out of some people though, when their truth doesn't ring true for anyone but them.
Jlpark your translation of what you read can be subjective. If your truth is different from my truth, you will always see it as venom. Hence, the serpent (satan). What he spoke was untruth and poison to Adam and Eve. Hence, their eviction.
Renee - thank you. We aren't going to agree on 'the truth' - yet I understand you are speaking from a respectful place, not a place of fear. We don't have to agree but respect is like honey - makes a bitter pill easier to swallow - for both sides.
jlpark, "a place of fear or hatred" that is what I was saying, I am sure and I interpreted your term "force" to mean loud, angrily which can and often is misinterpreted, sometimes on purpose by poisonous people to undermine.
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Christians corporately are the "Church." While local church attendance is not mandatory to be a member of the body of Christ, obeying God in this regard will show where the individual's heart is.
Read the question - I am not against Christians in general, more those who use the Church as something to hide their hatred behind, which is NOT all Christians - i know some wonderful christians, and some awful ones. The end of your answer - I agree
unfortunately, the "churches" of today and their misconstrued priorities, hypocrisies and distortions and misinterpretations of the Bible have turned more believers AND unbelievers away than brought them to Christ - Westboro Baptist Church for one...
Great points sallie. You love the sinner, not the sin.
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Bockshiner shoots.........he scores!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for standing up for Christ, truth, and decency, my friend - I am proud to fight by your side. :0)
Sure, re: Lev. But, do you were mixed-fibre clothing - poly cotton blend perhaps? Punishable in Lev, eating pork much the same, touching a woman on her period or anything that she has touched whilst being on her period? I know Lev - do you?
You clearly seem to be missing the point. You want to keep going back to Lev. but it's irrelevant. Just because something is in Lev. doesn't mean it doesn't apply today. Rape, murder, theft... are all prohibited in Lev.
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Well said, glynch1. In fact, to elaborate on one of your earlier points, Christ never went on record discussing the possibilities of the Moon being made of green cheese. So, I suppose, if He didn't condemn that notion openly...then it could be legit?
Gareth Pritchard says
So, moral judgment, good sense, decency, and truth do not matter? Yes, the "Church" has its problems, but from what I have seen, it is usually because someone does not practice the aforementioned and has thus become morally compromised.
I agree with your sentiments but they seem to be the vast majority from my window to the world, not the minority and ever growing in number but that might be an illusion of the good old days syndrome. Telling people has just made me isolated.
Thank you for your insightful comments. That is what I was looking at for the answer....not a discussion on homosexuality - but what you think the Church needs to understand about anything...and doesn't....yet.
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Renee' D. Campbell says
Renee, I just love it when someone has the courage to speak the truth and stand up for what is moral and right! I think you have discovered the homosexual agenda...they want everyone to accept, condone, endorse, protect and practice what they preach.
Thank you CJ - the interesting part is they expect everyone to say "Yay Be Gay, that's great - wheee - yippee - woohoo"
I'm not mad. People have missed the point. I have no issue with religion - only those who insist I follow their rules when they themselves do not even follow them all. Your answer was well written, and I would like to thank you for a respectful post
The interesting thing about the pic is it doesn't teach me about homosexuality. Usually when I learn about a subject it answers questions like who started it, when and where it started, how it started, and why. Tell the author to start over.
Renee it's not supposed to teach u about homosexuality - it's supposed to teach u about the hypocrisy of the church in regards to homosexuality and others. Still not the point of the question either
But you used an image that says 10 things the church should know about homosexuality -so which one is it -i should know or shouldn't I
Yes, because what I want the church to understand is just those things. What do YOU want the Church to understand that it doesn't? That was the question. So, the pic isn't supposed to teach you about homosexuality - but more to illustrate my point.
jlpark, if this image is supposed to "teach u about the hypocrisy of the church in regards to homosexuality and others" it fails in doing that as I've shown in my post. It does show an ignorance of Christian beliefs and basic logic.
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CJ Sledgehammer says
CJ are you speaking of the downsides of religion, being a spiritual disease, or are you still fixated on incorrect assumptions?
I will answer either, I just want to be sure.
I do not know of any unhealthy benefits associated with practicing pure Christianity...other than rampant persecution. And, yes, I am still fixated on God's truth...not your conjured counterfeit.
CJ: It must be very hard for you to be on the wrong side of history. Sad that you think you have a moral high ground, when really your vitriol demonstrates a deep hatefulness. But. you do seem to live in a scary, albeit made up, world...
Thank you for sharing your opinon, Laura, and for bringing it to my attention that you need a lot of prayer. By the way, I do not care what side of history I am on as long as I am on God's side. Moral high-ground? Gee..I hope so. Hateful? Not at all.
Why do you call CJ hateful because he disagrees completely with homosexuality. Just like I don't believe in abortion, but I don't hate you if you have one.
Renee - some of CJ's comments previously do not lend themselves kindly to his character unfortunately. However, I am sure we are all guilty of this at times - myself included. Having had a respectful conversation with him, my view has changed of him
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Stoill Barzakov says
Again, one that has been voted down, because people disagree....it is not offensive to anyone...
This one - has a lot of truth in it. I will make sure all answers are visible unless frankly and nastily offensive to anyone.
Thanks CJ, stay proud and sorry for my grammar. English is not my native language.
I understood, Mordor, I thought that you had a thoughtful, and respectful way of putting the point across - and you understood my point - what does the Church need to understand, that it does not yet understand not neces. homosexuality. Thank you
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Well said, Planks. Bravo!!!
So much to say usually CJ - yet I call u on it and no answer? I'm open for the honest discourse - it's just a little weird talking to myself.
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