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Gary R. Smith says
Well, to some we have backslid, but I prefer to think of it as a giant step forward. Yours is an encouraging story for any who might be traveling the same road.
Wesman Todd Shaw says
That's quite a story Wesman, I'm glad you're still among us. This gives more perspective. Maybe I'll Mozy on over and take a look at those hubs after all.
Chris Mills says
Your well-grounded answer also brought a smile. At the time that I was re-examining my beliefs, and leaving the dogmatic aspects of my faith behind, one of my favorite sayings was, "I had God in a box, but He got out!"
Gary, when did you live in Oklahoma City? I lived in Shawnee in 77 and 78.
Shortened for space.... in March, '75, I drove a 67 Chevy pulling a house trailer from Maine to OKC to work for a church. Had a summer romance, then returned to Colorado that Thanksgiving. Married in '76, and we lived in Springfield, MO for 6 years.
There are remarkable similarities in our pasts. re: God in a box It was a precise kind of Christian box, i.e. pre-mil, post-trib, anti charismatic, eternal security, strong emphasis on evangelism and missions etc, etc. All so meaningless now.
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Thank you for asking, and for inviting us into a dialog of respect and open-minded interest to know each other's perspectives. I will enjoy to read more from you as you find your spiritual path.
I respect your path and your choices.
Thank you and I have also learned so much from others who have answered and commented which I think is what it's all about.
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Then peace be with you...daughter of Christ. :0)
Have you tried Islam?
If this fine young lady said that Jesus saved her...why in God's name would she want to abandon her Savior for one who has done nothing for her? Why would she cash in her Eternal inheritance with Christ, so she could hang out with Mohammed?
It s not a measure by which to judge which way to follow.With all respect,if you talk to Hindus you will hear some amazing story how an animal(S) saves their lives and even here,some Muslims get healed after praying to good dead men(Adriha).
So be it, James, but even if this young lady thought that an animal spirit saved her...Mohammed still has done nothing for her. From what I know of Mohammed...all he did is bring HIS perspectives to the world through the point of a blade. Slavery!!!
Arabs be4 him(pbuh) used to practice the Judeo-Christian nd Pagan slavery.They used to buy and sell slaves,abuse them,and flog them to death if slaves disobey.The Muslims had fought long and bloody battles against the Pagan Arabs to liberate slaves
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Renee Abbott says
I thought it would be best to keep my comment in my answer. One thing I didnt mentioned, but decided I should have is I too have had a near death experience, and Jesus was not the one saving me. It imho does not matter who or what you believe in.
I had death experience too.Staying 10 days in hospital,Only Allah who saved me,no Mohamed peace be upon him nor the Quran.Allah s mercy is upon everyone,believer or nonbeliever.He is rich and above all needs.He can do whatever he likes.
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Tijani Achamlal says
I appreciate the spirit in which you shared. I have heard other Muslims talk about their faith and it came across so militant. You have given us a glimpse into your search which lead you back to your roots, to practice your faith more fully.
I don't say this to be insulting, but if you want to learn a thing or two about slavery...Islam is for you. King Suleman "the Inexorable" enslaved many Africans via the sword and said they were no better than the animals that lived around them.
That was SOLOMON of the Bible not of the Quran.Islam enjoins upon every Muslim to respect other prophets, and therefore any criticism or disrespect against other prophets goes against Islamic principles.
so does GOD, but few people understand this. obeying GOD puts a crimper on their lifestyle so they dont. but the answer to happiness and peace in all aspects of our lives is in the KJV bible
KJV is just a copy and it has undergone many changes since the first translation.I want the original scripture.Where can I find it?
Honestly, James...please read your history. King Suleman and Islam may not have been the original slave-trafficers, but they perfected it. They made men into eunuchs, while killing those who would not embrace Islam. Sultans even had their sons killed
Oh yu mean Moroccan king.Well,he represented only himself not Islam.Is it logicaly,acordin t the destruction of Iraq nd events in abu ghrib prison nd killing of innocent kids by th US governmnt in Pakistan ,that Bush or Obama represents Christianity?
And Christianity didnt promote slavery? Every western religion has, none excluded. It is part of the evolvement of humans.
James, my friend, please do not confuse America for a "Christian" nation. Our politicians follow the path of greed, corruption, vice and violence. Christ has virtually nothing to do with America and America has virtually nothing to do with Him.
It s you initiated this kind of conversation.I used the same logic you depended on.I respect Americans and all religions and creeds.By the way,Jaqui will be glad to see us in pole s apart lol I really do respect her:)
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You are right in thinking that many "Christians" participate in pagan holidays, participate in other traditions that are not endorsed by the Bible and have accepted teachings not promoted by Christ, His disciples or the original Christian church.
CJ Sledgehammer says
As claiming here,do you know that Jesus never said he is God incarnated,or Son.It s Paul who says that,not Jesus.There is no where in the four Gospels that we have today, did Jesus say that statement.So,you are following religion,especially Paul.
James, you may have misunderstood what I said. Christ is the perfect representative, reflection, and manifestation of His Father...He IS the WORD of God. So when Christ said, "When you have seen me, you have seen the Father", this is what He meant.
So, you mean he is not the actual biological son of God?
CJ Sledgehammer, I appreciate your story. Clearly you have been rescued from what could have been a much different life.
James: Christ Yeshua is definately the biological son of God...fathered by the Holy Spirit. Christ Yeshua never claimed to be God the Father, as some believe, but He did claim to be the only begotten Son of God, Lamb of God, and Word of God.
Where does he say that in the Bible?
James: Please read Matthew 26:63-64, "...The high priest said to Him, 'I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God.'" Jesus answered, "Yes, it is as you say."
Please read John 1:1-18; 3:16; 5:22; 10:36
My friend my answer is in my hub: Trinity exposed...Check it,please.I talked about the meaning of god in Hebrew ,plus Hebrew doesnt have G capital letter,how could the translators distinguish God nd god and choose the suitable places for G and g?
My first wife grew up in Chicago. When she was 'saved,' she went out onto the streets to share her joy. She went up to a young man and asked, "Do you know Jesus?" and he answered, "I am Jesus." Later she learned that Jesus is a common Hispanic name.
I went door to door a lot. Once, a very attractive young woman answered the door. She was wearing a fishnet, knit top with nothing under. I am positive I was speaking gibberish and staring. Awkward moments in personal evangelism.
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