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Best Answer renegadetory says
Do you not believe in the trinity? Read the book of Acts.
I have read the book of Acts my friend, and I still see the Holy Spirit as the power of God and also as a part of Him, not separate from Him.
It appears a pot has been stirred here!
Paul, in the introductory comments in each of his epistles, refers to the Father and the Son together, but does not mention the Holy Spirit. If Paul was Trinitarian, why did he fail to at least acknowledge the role of the “Third Person” in the believ
You just proved my point.
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You are appreciated. Thank you for the great answer! Thumbs Up! Question Closed
You are absolutely right!
David Steffy says
The "Great Comforter" did not exist until the day of Pentecost.
Babylon sure influenced many aspects of Christianity, Christmas to name but one.. but great answer, I couldn't agree more.
Where do you people go to Church??
Psalm 51:11- Do not cast me away from Your presence, And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me.
You are taking that verse waaaayyyyy out of context. Verse 12 talks about salvation? We both know Jesus had not made that sacrifice yet. You are getting way ahead of yourself. Read the whole chapter.
God placed His Holy Spirit on David, David was blessed as a result. I'm not sure how you can say the "Great Comforter: aka Holy Spirit did not exist before Pentecost... did God's laws exist before He wrote them on stone tablets for Moses?
It plainly says this in acts. Jesus Christ sent the holy spirit on the day of Pentecost. Not before. So, you think the holy spirit came before Jesus Christ?
The Holy Spirit of God was present in the OT, in the NT Jesus died and was resurrected to then be able to baptize with the Holy Spirit (place His Spirit IN man) as John the Baptist states in Matthew 3: 11
OH MY!! Agree to disagree.
Pray about it.
I certainly will be praying.
Very detailed and appreciated.
I've always thought the pillar of fire was simply a vehicle, like a "ufo"...hmmm
Here is from Jesus's own life and teachings not in that Bible and no it is not heresy like the CHURCH wants you to believe: http://www.thenazareneway.com/
Jesus was a Nazarene and was taught that way of life.
Read Proverbs, the first chapter speaks of the Holy Spirit. When I read it the Lord tells me that Wisdom, (The Holy Spirit) was with God. That told me that The Holy Spirit is everlasing and is equal to God and has always existed as God did.
I like your answer Pool.
I do not believe the Trinity is a valid doctrine at all. It was invented by the Church and cannot be found in the bible. Simply put, the Holy Spirit is term for God's spirit when his presence is manifest upon the Earth.
Those words "holy" and Spirit are metion several times in teh OT. It is interesting what you find in these verses: http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=holy+s...
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Rod Martin Jr says
Very interesting. Thanks
Debra Allen says
I've seen it Lady G.
Great comment. Provokes thought!
Since every birth the Holy Spirit enters means that there is no distinction from a believer or non believer. At the time of death there is no distinction between and believer and non believer. God does not have a religion.
It is true that the Holy Spirit was released to us only after Jesus Christ sent The Holy Spirit but the first chapter of proverbs says The Holy Spirit has always been with The Eternal Father, & He was delighted in The Holy Spirit.
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