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Best Answer Austinstar says
Am speechless...in a good way. So succinctly put, and an interesting way to look at it. Thanks for sharing. (you have a new fan)
Religion isn't the issue; it's people. Laws are not the problem; it's people. Summary: People created both. Both are self-righteous institutions created by man. Morality is needed. God gave us this. Not His fault when people don't use it.
If there wasn't religion, then, you mean that all the people who go out and actually do things in the name of their religion would still go out and do those things, just in their own name?
And that's better?
At least they are being honest in their hatred and cruelty rather than hiding behind religion thinking that makes it alright.
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Rod Martin Jr says
Nice answer, lone star.
"Without religion we could not judge between right and wrong." You know that's delusional right? When's the last time you ever heard of an atheist terrorist?
Islam has forbidden Alcohol & Tobacco 1400 years ago. would the people at that era be knowing that it would be the most harmful among the things?
Really? So when a person murders, it's because they had no religion, right? So what do the child-molesting priests have as an excuse? Um, lack of morals.
Person murders means, he does not follow religion. Simply ,if a religious person does anything wrong means, he follow the religion for name sake. He does not truly follow the religion. Becoz no religion teaches to harm others.
without morals we could not judge between right and wrong. morals do not make us do anything but the give us the intelligent conviction of right and wrong.
Very salient point peeples. Having studied Ethics for my philosophy degree I would have to say that there are plenty of well crafted secular Ethical systems of thought. Mill and Bentham's Utilitarianism forms the basis of most political moral choices
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But is religion the problem or is ego?
What does religion have to do with political corruption, Bush's lies of WMDs that got us into Iraq, or that led scientists to lie about 9/11?
All of these evils, and more, go back to ego.
Can religion exist without ego?
people need to stop blaming "religion" and "law" and do what they know is honestly, morally right. The douchebags that scam people into believing "this" or "that" are ruining for the ones who actually ARE doing the morally correct choices.
I think the broad view makes clear that the tenets of faith are not at fault - but rigid dogmatism and institutional jobsworth attitudes to different or new ideas are. In the end as lone77star implies, the buc stops with the individual's choices.
You seem also discerning my brother, lone77star.
I won't mention these things, but perhaps they help. I do not know. many blessings.
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Sakhi Deshmukh says
what a true, and adorable, answer ;)
Dan Barfield says
just thought I'd drop by again and let any interested parties know I've just published a hub inspired by this question and a couple of the other answers given. I've called it Religion and Conflict: can they be separated?
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EDIT :: (i just start reading from.. )
(what you must do in this Life And Why you are Here in this world ..)
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Terry A. Kennedy says
Are you waiting for Jesus? Or are you being facetious? I agree, it is bull crap that we need new laws. What we need is the determination to admit we are to blame and get busy cleaning things up ourselves instead of waiting for some 'magic' to happen.
Good on ya, Austin Star
I definitely agree that people need to take responsibility... however I can't advocate your opinion that the world will never be a better place until the second coming. That seems like an admission of defeat... we must save ourselves not wait for JC.
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