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Best Answer Christin Sander says
Great answer, as usual ChristinS! I totally agree with your logical reasoning and arguments!
M. T. Dremer says
I am a believer of God myself. I am a New Ager. I was not addressing all religious people. There are religionists who are very liberal, open-minded & accepting of other beliefs. I was only addressing the more dogmatically minded religionists.
Fair enough. Though my answer would probably remain the same. Those who are condemning and condescending are just jerks not worth our time.
MT, beautifully put. Jesus told his followers to walk away if someone does not accept the message. The problem is ego. His mission was to get rid of ego; but some follow ego instead of Christ. Love is the answer. A good name for ego is "jerk."
Very well said, M. T. Dremer! I love your anti-prejudice message of ending the sentence before placing a labeling the individual, "That guy is a jerk." Period. That philosophy can be applied to sooo many cases in addition to just religion. Cheers!
Do away with the Ego? Ego is a person's sense of self-esteem and is needed We are to love others as we love ourselves It is the Id the primary animal impulses we are to subdue not the ego
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CraftytotheCore, I totally agree with you, too: like ChristinS., you are both logically and factually correct. I, too, primarily meet un-Christian-like Christians, though I have been honored to know several true ones who DO always love others.
Dean Walsh says
You're right! In church and Sunday school that's what I was taught--further, it was my Christian DUTY to straighten out such "bad" people by enlightening them to Christianity. I never believed or did that, though--it's disrespectful to others!
Rod Martin Jr says
Wow! Powerful answer, lone77star! I am humbled at your logic; enlightened, too. I'll re-read this answer many times. I come from the science end of the spectrum, but have room for the spiritual, too. Totally agree with your last line: prophetic!
As if it is only the Christians who are condemning and condescending. It is a human problem, right? It just seems like Christians are an easy target for categorizing purposes.
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Behind "both ways" is ego. Ego wants to be right (first). Ego does not love. Ego is selfishness.
Good points. Generalities do not help, because they are frequently inaccurate. But sometimes (often?) "sticking to one's guns" is pure ego. Only with humility (the opposite of ego) can a person ever learn.
That's what they tried to teach me as a kid, too. I never bought it, thank goodness for everyone! I think it's rude, egotistical, and immoral to think others should believe as you do OR ELSE. ... "never again"--you broke the cycle! Smart--thank you!
This is another excellent answer!
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Good perspective--stating a belief or warning rather than necessarily condemning/judging. I like the way you phrased your answer, christiananrkist! Very open-minded, unlike many.
I disagree. Gay rights activists and feminists have nothing to do with this question, they are separate issues.
"With some, they like an excuse to feel victimized." Your very first line summarizes the condition of the modern feminist.
I'm not going to be baited into an argument on feminism on an unrelated question. I suggest some study of the history of women's rights and what women have endured to have them though.
If it means anything to you I would have kept it civil! I may have my grievances with contemporary feminist movements, but we are all human. Naturally, I am an ardent believer of civil discourse.
If I may note, Mr. Travis Kaoulla is commenting on the ANSWER that Christin S. gave. Christin S. is responding by referring to the QUESTION. This is why there is confusion in the conversation.
Fundamentalists have hardly suffered persecution of the type seen with gays and women. It's like comparing apples and peanuts.
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JThomp, I think the same can be said if a question is asked about atheists, paganism, new age, etc. To prove my point, you jumped in here without an answer to the original question, but a condemning, condescending, finger-pointing reflection.
Jeff always do this, nothing new at all.
Why... Thank you gm!! :)
JT, while I agree with what you're saying, I think it needs to be much broader: "EVERYBODY" gets fussy, condescending, condemning, and sometimes downright mean (you're never mean) when the topic of religion/non-religion comes up. Even you and me.
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