Do you believe there are Descendents of Jesus Christ that are alive today?

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   FitnezzJimposted 10 years ago

   Do you believe there are Descendents of Jesus Christ that are alive today?
   
   News articles have been talking about lab results regarding testing of a historical text that mentions Mary wife of Jesus.  The test results indicate the text is not a modern forgery, and that the text was created in ancient times.  This raises the possibility that Jesus had children, with the text as substantiating historical evidence.  The implication is that his descendants might be alive today.  Thoughts?

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   Ceegenposted 10 years ago

   Simply put, no... But here is why:
   
   Mary and Joseph had children after she had given birth to Jesus. They are the brothers and sisters of Jesus, but not by Joseph. Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus, and Jesus died a virgin. He had to be entirely sinless, or else his sacrifice for our sins would mean nothing.
   
   Plus if God created us all and we are his children, being that God is referred to as our heavenly father, then why would Jesus (who is God in the flesh, see John ch1 v1) want to have sexual relations with one of his daughters?
   
   Awkward.
   
   Continuing...
   
   Acts 20:
   29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
   30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
   31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
   
   The texts that you speak of come from Gnosticism, out of Egypt, like the Nag Hammadi texts/library. Paul, who wrote the passage I cited out of Acts, warned the people of his time to be careful of what people were saying, writing and teaching. So just because a text is old, doesn't mean it is accurate or true, because Paul was saying to watch out for things like the text you're talking about.
   
   It basically comes down to what you believe, or by what authority you base your decision on. The bible, or, something else?

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Paul was the deceiver.  Anything he says is against what Jesus taught.  Jesus said that all his works were not in the bible.  Jesus did marry and that would have no bearing to his ministry or works.  He was in a human body.

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      celafoeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      wow lg  you have no business wriitng on CHristian blogs as you clearly are deceived

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      Ceegenposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Lady G, God wants a relationship with his creations, but not a sexual relationship.
      
      Care to elaborate on how or why Paul was a deceiver, without just saying so? Evidence?

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Boy you all are the deceived one.  Who said God was having a sex relationship.  God is both. Celafoe, do not tell me what I can write on.  That only makes you look bad. Creegan and why would he not have that relationship.  He sd he nevr leave us.

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      Ceegenposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      He will never leave or forsake those who love and follow Him.
      "Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee." Hebrews ch13 v5.
      Paul wrote that!

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Amen James!  I've never met anyone like this!  Stating Paul was a deceiver, Jesus was a fornicator or married, and stating that His marriage would have not bearing on His ministry?  This is truly an unbeliever!  Popes are in human body! So??????

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   Lady Guinevereposted 10 years ago

   He had children and he did marry (Mary Magdalene who was a High Priestess) and he had a twin bother.  When his brother was on the cross he and his family went to France and lived.  There are no descendents that I know of currently.  There are plenty of other resources to find this information in.  There is even a hub here about Jesus' twin brother.  Gnostic does not mean it is not true.  That is only the way that Christians are taught that it is not true.  You can read about the blood line of the holy grail and the grail kings on the internet too and that gives the descendant of Jesus.  Google Sir Laurence Gardner and you will find it.

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      celafoeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      there is absolutely NO SCRIPTURAL proof to this lie.   And Jesus with a twin brother, I thought I had heard all the lies but that one --WOW   What garbage you are diseminating and will be held responsible for.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      http://intimatevolution.hubpages.com/_3 … rist--Twin

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      tsadjatkoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      To firmly believe anything does not make it fact - the fact is there is absolutely no credible evidence that Jesus had a twin brother. Your ilk are sadly misguided by deceipt or else purely evil deceivers yourselves (or possibly both).

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   celafoeposted 10 years ago

   This foolishness comes up every now and then.
   There are always people looking for this type of foolishess for whatever reason.    BUT scripture is clear, Jesus was sinless, single and celebate.
   He was born with and remained fully committed to one thing, paying for our sins by shedding His blood in our stead.    He lived and died and was resurrected ONLY for this one purpose , which He fulfilled, which was attested to by the supernatural renting of the veil on the most holy place and releasing God from the box.    And now He inhabits His people instead of a living in a little box in a little room.
   Therefore it is impossible for there to be natural descendents of His alive or dead.
   This is just another lie from the father of lies that the weak and gullible only are willing to accept even though we are warned many times in scripture that these things will come to distract and delude us.
   Anyone not satisfied with scripture can always find such as this as this kind of evil deception has been going on since Jesus left and will continue until His return..

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      tsadjatkoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Well said and although I agree with you wholeheartedly the scripture does not specifically say that he was not married, but it is obvious that if he was it would have had to be mentioned and it is not.

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   tsadjatkoposted 10 years ago

   
   
   This question was born of the popularity of Dan Brown’s controversial novel, The Da Vinci Code. This novel advocates the thesis that Jesus was in fact married to the woman we know as Mary Magdalene, that they had a child together, and that this “truth” was covered up by the church for self-serving reasons. This history of the novel is totally fictional but now major news outlets are reporting on the discovery of a small fragment from a previously unknown document that contains a statement by a character named “Jesus” referring to “my wife.” (You must understand even when Jesus was alive Jesus and Mary were popular names.)
   
   Does this give us new historical evidence for the literal marriage of Jesus of Nazareth to some woman, perhaps Mary Magdalene? No, says Karen L. King, the scholar who recently revealed the existence of the manuscript fragment in which “Jesus” speaks of “my wife.” In an article to be published in the Harvard Theological Review, King writes:
   
   This is the only extant ancient text which explicitly portrays Jesus as referring to a wife. It does not, however, provide evidence that the historical Jesus was married, given the late date of the fragment and the probable date of original composition only in the second half of the second century.
   
   Near the end of her article, King, with contributions by AnneMarie Luijendijk, reiterates:
   
   Does this fragment constitute evidence that Jesus was married? In our opinion, the late date of the Coptic papyrus (c. fourth century), and even of the possible date of composition in the second half of the second century, argues against its value as evidence for the life of the historical Jesus.
   
   Of course, King’s measured judgment here will do little to stop the coming tidal wave of looney claims that we now have definitive evidence if not proof that Jesus was actually married.
   
   In fact, as Karen King rightly observes, the discovery and publication of the fragment known as the Gospel of Jesus’s Wife in fact tells us nothing about the first-century man we know as Jesus of Nazareth. If it is genuine, the fragment of the otherwise unknown document will tell us something about the beliefs of people who lived a century or two after Jesus, though what exactly we should conclude on the basis of this small piece of an ancient manuscript is yet to be determined.
   
   There is absolutely no credible evidence anywhere that Jesus was married and no sane person would state that as a fact, let alone that he had children!

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      celafoeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      these false doctrines have been around long before Brown, and surface every now and then.because there are many that are easiiy deceived that will believe and promote them . Thats why there are  so many warnings in scripture

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      FitnezzJimposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed.  The controversy has risen again recently because of the DaVinci code, but the question has been around for much much longer.

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      tsadjatkoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      http://www.albertmohler.com/2014/04/14/ … 12-b0ba448

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   Hackslapposted 10 years ago

   Yes it is possible ... that's all I'm saying ..

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      tsadjatkoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Lot's of things are possible but only a fool believes anything that is possible as a fact when there is no evidence.

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   tirelesstravelerposted 10 years ago

   Jesus had half brothers an sisters.  Which would have passed  DNA .  This news item shows up around this time every year.  First time it surfaced was around 300 . Either Jesus was who he said he was or he was a liar.

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      celafoeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      for those who dont understand ,the DNA of His mother only and they would not have been His descendents, just relatives.   
      As you said either He is who He said or Not and that is where FAITH enters the equasion of being a Christian

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      That is because you fail to see the matriarch part of the equation.  Religion suppresses that side up until recently.  Both Mother and Father DNA and Genetics are important.

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      celafoeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      . 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
      See all of Galatians 1

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Cel, this is not a debate on whose scripture is right because I can give you another scripture that states what I have.  I am not going there and you know that.  If you want to do that then do it elsewhere.

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      tsadjatkoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markdrober … -evidence/

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      FitnezzJimposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I checked the site tsadjatko linked to, but stopped reading when I saw the claim that this question was 'born with the DaVinci code'.  I first heard the topic in the 60's, and made the mistake of asking about it in a Methodist Sunday School.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Deb:  Who is "your" Father?  Do you even believe in Jesus?  Everytime someone quotes Scripture, you get offended!  Why?

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   FitnezzJimposted 10 years ago

   I thank all who have commented so far.  Most of you state your position on the question really well.
   
   Some of the responses to those positions come across as personally directed or as veiled threats.   While I appreciate the strength of your conviction, I’d prefer that this question not degenerate to personal attacks.  Because of that, future comments that I perceive as threatening or directed personally at another commenter WILL be deleted.  I’m allowing those that have been stated already to stand as is.

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      FitnezzJimposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Per request, tsadjatko, I deleted your response.
      But if you had not made the request to delete it, I would have left it there.
      For direct responses, you can use visit a Hubbers profile and use "Send  an email".

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