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Best Answer graceinus says
The same offer I made to Charlie applies to you as well
Rich- That would be nice, thank you.
Are the terms "New Testament" and "New Covenant" the same?
That is a good point graceinus, but it was still 33AD and the Church was born 50 days after Jesus' death. And the NT message was first preached by Peter that is when the NT began after the death of the Testator.
chvyssbowtie- Regardless of the number of days it took for the Apostles to preach the message after Jesus death, the New Testament was in effect at the moment of Jesus death. The number of day it took for the birth of the (ecclesia) does not matter.
Eric, diathēkē is translated in the KJV 14 times as testament and 20 times as covenant, in the NASB 34 times as covenant, so it could go either way.
The Testators new testament was not delivered the moment He died it was delivered 50 days after His death. It was put into peters hands to open the NT door.
chevysbowtie- You are right, but I didn't say it was delievered to the apostles upon Jesus death. I am saying the New Testament went into EFFECT at his death. When it was delievered to the apostles is a seperate issue.Jesus had to die to take effect.
Grace - absolutely 100% correct
Ok, got it, your right, at His death and fully implemented at Pentecost!
I'm not getting an e-mail from you to send the NKJV
Rich- I just sent you an e-mail. Looking forward to hearing from you.
GRACE- I have sent you 5-6 emails with no answer is yours still broken?
celafoe- I have not received any e-mail from you through Hubpage. I will send you an e-mail and it will have my correct address.
Charlie: God knows "the heart!" You can't "delete" that!
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Janis Leslie Evans says
You do know the earliest of the New Testament books, the Gospel of Mark, was written in ~70 AD, right? That means your date is off by quite a lot.
It doesnt matter when the letters to the Churches were written, the Church was born in 33 AD, so that would be the beginning of the NT. The time the letters were written is not the beginning of the NT.
There is a difference between the new covenant in my blood and the new testament in writing, The NT was arranged large to small for the most part, not order written. The New Covenant happen when Christ said it is finished (the old covenant).
Don't for get in Act 1:3 where it explain that for 40 after Jesus raised from the dead Jesus continue teaching the Kingdom message until a few days before Pentecost. Which Jesus was taken up to heaven seven days before Pentecost 50 days after death.
the exact scripture where the NT begins are MT 27:50-51 MK 15:37-38, Luke 23:44, and Jn 19:29. anything before these dates is under the OT LAW. It we FULLY implimented on the day of pentecost..
This is very important.
Charlie: Amen, Amen, & Amen! FULLY IMPLEMENTED!
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Norine Williams says
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John 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.That is why He told them to wait, the answer is in scripture not contract law
Rich Kelley says
I have the NKJV New Testament with chapters verses etc removed also arrange in the order written on my computer. If you would like a copy let me know via hub pages.
rich- I thought I asked for it before yes please
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actually this is also incorrect. another of the teachings of the confused churches of men.
Sir Dent: "Fully Implemented" on the Day of Pentecost! Can't go any other way according to Scripture! Commanded "to wait" for It Acts 1:4 & It came Acts 2:2 fulfilling Jer 31:33;Heb 8:10;10:16! Thereby "fully implementing!"
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