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Best Answer Norine Williams says
Thank you very much for the information it can be confusing with different points of view and religions
Nik: What does a "point of view" have to do w/what is WRITTEN in Scripture? Did Scripture not say that a teacher/preacher must be "sent?" Who then can determine if "sent" if not the Holy Spirit? We need a Helper, the Holy Spirit! We need guidance!
Acts 1:8 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” It says "YOU will receive power" does not say if the you is a minister
Carrie: Must know what you're following (Doctrine) Acts 2:2! Receive (Word in right order, not literally), believe, then Acts 2:38!
I don't follow a doctrine , I follow the word of God. And I'm lead by the HS.
Carrie: The Holy Spirit (Jesus) came in Acts 2:2 & began talking thru the Apostles & they begin doing what He said. After that ALL were baptized in the name of Jesus (Acts 2:38) & then they did as Acts 2:42 said. That's where we live to
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Dash: How can u believe & not know what to "believe" in from bible? Just believe (know) He exists? This is not believing! Believing on Him is believing what is written in His Word! How can you known what's in His Word w/o a "sent" preacher?
He just needs a PERSON who is a Christian to share the word with him, when he is ready and drawn in by the HS. You are being quick to cast the first stone with everyone....are you "sent?"
Noreen, I don't need a book written by a group of men to be convinced that there is a God/spirit. I can close my eyes and look within to feel connected. CarrieG I don't (need) any Christians to share "the word". I know more than most of them.:)
Carrie: A Spirit filled "person" (Philip?) "Sent" ppl have been given Word rigthly divided. Dash: Script didn't say "close eyes" to rec revelation of His Word! Need Helper! "Man," Acts 2:38; then Acts 2:42!
Norine; Luke 17:21
"Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, (the kingdom of God is within you)." Lets face it Norine, you and I will never agree on this subject. Live and let live. We're free to believe whatever we want. :)
Dash: But not "in you" if u won't "look" to see if "rightly divided!" I plant seed but God gives Inc! Not free to blv "whatever u want" but the Word! My job to "tell!" Whether u accept-on u!
"the kingdom of God is (within you)." - That is scripture!
I didn't make that line up! :)
Dash: Not in u if not according to Scripture. Rd resp to Carrie! I've told u but only God can give increase. I didn't make that line up either! It's in Scripture!
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Phil Perez says
Oh that is interesting,thank you for your answer.
You are very welcome, Nichol.
Carrie: Oneness & Apostolics believe in Jesus Name baptism so I'm not the only wacko! Scripture said do it after New Covenant. Study! Rightly Divide the Word! New Covenant Doctrine unless ur still under Old Covenant? Christ died in vain?
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Carrie: Read the story of Philip & the Ethopian in Acts 8! One must be "sent" to teach/preach. Heb 10:25. "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together..."
Norine, I know these scriptures very well.. Heb 10:25 tells ALL to encourage one another: I would trust the HS is leading the group. Please read Proverbs 27:17 and Acts 2:46-47 We all are called to be disciples. All called to spread his word.
Carrie: If rightly divided otherwise Jer 23:1! Serious business! Do u blv Jer 31:33;Hebr 8:10;10:16 re: New Covenant?
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The more I know about it,the more I would have to agree.I went to church for help with electric bill a while ago,referred by 211.The lady said to me we don't help people outside of our church,and gave me her blessing.Is this What God would do?No
Fee/NiK: U no the "real problem" is, members of churches do not have a Spiritually filled preacher sent by God who teaches the gospel of Christ. The 1st step is to Acts 2:38 be "filled w/HS!" Then all ungodly actions would not occur in churches!
Norine, you stated "The 1st step is to Acts 2:38 be "filled w/HS!" Then all ungodly actions would not occur in churches!" REALLY? yes the HS is our counselor, teacher, convector but even people in spirit filled church's are human and are temped.
Carrie: Those lack faith. That's where your come in to "encourage" the weaker one. I Thess 5:14
I disagree. I think we are going to have to agree to disagree.
Carrie: That's "exactly" what I'm talking about! Won't "search" scripture to see if I'm right! Complacent! Is that what Peter did when HS told Paul circumcision means nothing? Did u read those scriptures? Search Acts 17:11! U didnt disagree when u sa
Norine, I know them very well. I believe your interpretation is wrong. My husband and i are "sent" and filed with the HS. But it wont matter to you about me because you have been taught this way. You brow beat people, gives Christians a bad name
Carrie, you'll realize how Norine is practically impossible to speak to soon enough..
Carrie: I'm not trying to chg ur doctrine but have u compare ur belief to what is in the Word! U said there's no "doctrine," not true per Script ! I don't "brow beat" just quote Script! Heb 4:12.Gal 1:12! I wish no one should perish!2 Pet 3:9
You see how flawed her thinking is, Carrie? "I only quote Script." She's like a robot who was installed a microchip in her brain that only recites words without thinking of why. She accepts everything she sees from the Bible without question.
Phil: Bcuz I speak fm Scripture which SATAN hates? Then, yes, I'm diffuclt to speak w/for that's all I have-Scripture! Yes, a "FOOL" for Christ! Carrie: You'll know them "by their fruit!"
Phil, I agree with you. The thing that is silly here is her argument of someone being "sent". We are all sent, but God does call teachers, preachers, evangelist. she is leaving out Salvation. Who cares who is sent, Salvation is the important part.
Carrie: Look at Scripture & baptize in Jesus' Name! Can't find it! Ck w/Holy Spirit! Search scripture! Jer 31:33;Heb8:10;10:16. Jn 14:26;16:13;Acts 2:2; Acts 2:38; Acts 2:42. I didn't make that up! Salvation not there if not done acc to Script!
Your a whack job..lol I'm done.
Carrie: Don't know about New Covenant? Holy Spirit guiding? Read II Tim 2:15. I didn't make it up! I've told u! I Cor 14:38!
Norine, No hubs? are you here only to whip people in shape with your miss understanding of the scriptures? I'm not wanting to seem mean or rude here with you but this has gone on long enough. I am going to un follow this hub, I suggest you do too
Carrie: I'm here to do the "Will" of God! Only if HE says so! Gathering opinions which seems to b "High Order of society's" belief & not the gospel of Christ! Whipping? Maybe! Heb 4:12. I hope u Study! Love
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Joseph O Polanco says
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Joe: To answer the Q, responses r ALL "religious" & God hates "religion!" They should read Gal 1:6-9! From responses they are "ACCURSED" for they do NOT live "After the Day of Pentecost" which JESUS DIED (in vain?) for & sent Holy Spirit to
That is how I felt about it too, thanks Delilah.
De: If u believe in Jesus, then u know what He said. Otherwise, you are not a "true" believer. U must know what is expected of u His rules/regulations! Do u know?
I believe in the rules and I think that it is just way of life I would want even if I didn't believe
NiK: What r u saying? It doesn't matter what's in bible for you will continue in your way of life?
Gods rules and regulations? How about his Love his forgiveness his GRACE. You make it sounds as if he is up in heaven with a club watching and waiting to use it when we mess up. If that's the god you are severing I want no part of him. I want Grace!
Carrie: Oh, He's watching! That's why ALL must "rightly divide" His Word to do as He died & left instructions for us to do! New Cov/"Promise" Jn14:26;16:13; Came Acts 2:2; Acts 2:38; Acts 2;42. Same Jesus gave us "Grace!"
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