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Elijah Alfred says
Hi Eli: "AFTER those days" means after He resurrected, after He sent the HS (Acts 2:2), He'd began "putting laws in our hearts, & writing them in our minds" as He did w/apostles! So it wasn't "Paul" speaking but JESUS (HS)!
Eric Dierker says
ED, comprehending Jesus (Mat 24:13), saved means to survive civilization's end especially because Rev 19:21 reads the unsaved discarnates and & 20:5 reincarnates after the 1st millennium, unwritten is they continue reincarnating until raptured.
Very interesting. In plain English you are saying we are reincarnated continuously until what is called the rapture?
ED, the Bible shows a cycle (Gen 1:14 & Ecc 1:9) of 2 raptures and man continue reincarnating until chosen (Jew) to rapture. N this material civilization everyone except Jews discarnate to reincarnate indestructible for Rev. 21's world.
Most intriguing. A blueprint with step by step detailed explanation. Gives a whole new meaning to "taking it on faith". Such certainty is refreshing. A protocol one can take to the bank.
Faith is seeking evidence and substance to certify the unseen (Heb 11:1). Faith makes one a scientist of religious concepts so I've taken it by the faith of study (2 Tim 2:15) and meditating (Psa 1) to put precept upon precept (Isa 28:9-10).
Marvelous, I have never heard faith described that way. So you are saying that being saved is only the beginning of a journey. Upon being saved we become travelers?
I'm saying being a living entity begins a journey through every attribute of every living being on earth and beyond we don't remember until after the "new birth" when the comforter (John 14:26) causes us to remember our other incarnations.
So back to the question. Being saved - we become?
We are saved from reincarnating therefore we become eternal beings who will not discarnate until everlasting life is over then we forget everything learned to return to incarnating again. For eternity to be there has to be an endless cycle.
Thank you much Elijah I learned a great deal. You have a most interesting view. Clearly you have spend much time and thought in seeking answers.
That's the christ's, Psalm 1's, the buddha's and all of the enlightened sages' messages & the only way to know the truth is living an objective Observing, participating as needed and reasoning with the various outcomes (Isa 7:15-16) & can exp
I agree w/u Eli! We are (according to II Cor 3:18) constantly "changing fm "glory to glory" (reincarnating if u pls) "growing" into His likeness! Continue to "study" & "grow!" This is a Spiritual "journey!"
ea reincarnation is not of OUR God, the God of Abraham. Isaac, Jacob and Christ follower. you are not giving scriptural answers but foolishness , false doctrines.shame on you. rapture is another false doctrine. You are false teacher
Look at Rev 19:21, all unsaved dies, in Rev 20:5 they lives again, is that done by reincarnate or body reforming into who they were? Daniel (12:13) will "stand in his lot" in the last days, is his body to reform or will he reincarnate?
Celafoe I just looked you up in the phone book and you ain't listed under God. your interpretation of scripture is yours. Good on ya, but it is not THE word. Get a grip. My God is not your God. Mine is an energy force of love not a wrinkled man.
GUYS: Heaven is ALL SPIRITUAL! No fleshly "body!" If "houses not made with hands" where are these "fleshly bodies" going to live? II Cor 5:1? (v4) "mortality swallowed up?" (v8) "absent fm body" present w/the Lord?" ALL SPIRITUAL!
NW, When we realize Lord only means governor & everyone is governed by their understanding of lack of [and allow others todo it for them], when we are absent from our bodies we realize we are our own Lord, Jn 10:34 written in your law, Ye are go
eric-- correct your god is not my God. Your sloppy liberal God without any rules is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaaic, the bible and those of us that endeavor to follow Christ. the real God is love and also judgement - go check the real bible
Eli: "..we are r own Lord?" Jn 10:34 means depending on our measure of FAITH n "rightly divided" we become "in HIS LIKENESS" (Christ-like) then "god like" r god! But believing in something other than Gal 1:6-9 NOTHING but "ACCURSED" (said it 2x's)!
One can't rightly divide truth unless they are living it which makes us anointed like Yeshua, "who, being in the image of god thought it not robbery to be equal with god." Isn't that also written for us to become?
Eli: How did Christ "live it?" Seclusion from the "lost sheep" & not "TEACHING?" We must "TEACH" "rightly divided" WORD! I'd love to seclude also, but only way I'd be able to TEACH would be via computer! Effective, but face 2 face better!
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Since the fig tree budded in 1948 when historical Israel became a nation and 80 years ends a generation, we reborn man [what all reborn becomes per Genesis 2:24] will endure the world's end not exceeding 2028, thus, we'll endure until the end.
Eli: Hey! I don't see how u will be ready for "End Times" when u don't realize Paul stood n Jesus' stead "AFTER THE CROSS" via Jer & Heb! Puts whole diff outlook (Gal 1:6-9) on Scripture! "Putting horse before the cart" KILLS!
Cool Norine, I am watching you and you are growing a bit. Keep it up. Our Gospel was not written like the ten in stone. We grow and we learn and we learn that good is good and it takes no words to say that.
Eric: Have u grown to coincide with WORD? Do u blv "AFTER THE CROSS" which is baptism n Jesus' Name, allowing Holy Spirit "guide," elevating "faith" to receive POWER as Jesus'? Are you "growing" or thgs Jesus did for "those x's only?"
NW, the end is no later than 2028. To endure require living without worldly things as Adam before believing in good and evil, that I can. I obtain the Jn 14:12 powers soon and am revealing what it takes therefore I'm ready. Do you see that you are?
Eli: If "no later than 2028," I ask again "Are u doing as reqtd until then which is AFTER THE CROSS" or do u put horse before cart? If 1 can't understand Jer & Heb, Jesus spake thru Paul, & we should follow Paul, then not ready so says Scrip
Required, live independent of most things man make, share what brought you to it & how you do it. None can survive it unless spiritually born & led from within. They can't believe a book and & not live what it say is required. You tell
norine, I hope you understand you are wasting your time with these 2 false prophets.
Charlie: I realize they've created "their" doctrine, but MAYBE 1 will "hear" if I continue to "repeat" or "remind" them of TRUTH GOD will allow 1 to "hear" because no one can draw "man" unless HE does!
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Norine Williams says
Rich Kelley says
Rich: Oh Yes we "KNOW!" Things we used to do doesn't interest us anymore! Supernatural changes are made in our lives! Renewed minds! Must tell ALL of the "Good News!!"
Well people view getting saved with baptism , Baptism is ones contract and dedication to do the work of the Heavenly Father.
Like a Job when you agree verbal or by contract you have a Job, one sided agreement will not be binding ,
Being saved same
Dash: "...Like "fire" shut up in my bones" (Jer 20:9)! Must tell! "Be not unequally yoked" (II Cor 6:14).
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