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Why is it assumed that Morals are dictated by Religion? Doesn't that scare you?


It is mentioned a lot that Morals are dictated by Religion, and the inference (or the direct statement occasionally) is that therefore Atheists are immoral. What makes people think this? I'm curious. Has anyone considered that doing of good deeds only because God is watching is a scary thought - what would that person do if God wasn't watching? (Not atheists...but..religious people who ONLY do good due to GOD). Atheists - how does it make you feel?

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    dashingscorpio 15 months ago

    Excellent quotes!


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Geri Anderson (G.L.A.) says

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    inspiritinone 15 months ago

    I am so sorry, But the truth is, that everyone is born in sin.Or born Bad. That is what the bible teaches and thats why we need Jesus. If parents didnt teach morals, and God removed His hand, We would have destroyed ourselfs long ago.


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Paula (fpherj48) says

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    Austinstar 16 months ago

    It is quite simple thank you. So simple in fact that one would think even the religious could understand it. But one would be wrong. They do not seem to be able to grasp this concept at all.


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Shannon Anders (Shanders) says

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    Austinstar 15 months ago

    Great answer! Now if we could only get these words to the people who need them.


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    Jacqui (jlpark) 15 months ago

    Kylyssa - thanks! Glad it doesn't scare you - it was phrased that way because many fundamentalists assume Atheists are inherently immoral, so it seemed logical to 'assume' for the sake of this question, the fundies r merely moral out of fear.


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Lisa Vollrath (lisavollrath) says

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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    The "Gospel of Christ" doesn't reflect last para actions under New Covenant!

    In Old Testament "WHATEVER" prevented the coming of Christ so Scripture would be "fulfilled," was removed! If GOD says He would do, He DID, so Scripture's "fulfilled!"

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    Jacqui (jlpark) 15 months ago

    Thanks Austin. A lot of what you mentioned is part of what annoys/confuses me about Religion - righteous, yet murderous...hmmm, doesn't work for me. Thanks for sharing.


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    Brandon Riederer (LiveFitForLife) 15 months ago

    Exactly, Lawrence: "As for the Atheist, I'd say they can be moral, but what do they use to set their standards?" If an atheist abandons the idea of the afterlife, reconciling moral obligations with just the plane of humanity is a tricky task.


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Grace Marguerite Williams (gmwilliams) says

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    Austinstar 16 months ago

    And who among us is so moral that we have the power to judge? Even religionists are not supposed to judge others, but they do it all the time. Like you say, it's up to an individual to be "moral" or not. And it has nothing to do with religion!


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    Jacqui (jlpark) 15 months ago

    Thanks Bruce for your answer. I like the quote!


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    Kiss andTales 15 months ago

    True to a point, but religion comes in verieties, Babylon was the empire of many deities, as Jpark mention the Hammurabi was written by a king in BCE time period.

    It has laws, as well, but the laws was based

    on business practices,and few others.


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Brandon Riederer (LiveFitForLife) says

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    Yoleen Lucas (Say Yes To Life) 15 months ago

    I agree that religions often forget the laws of naturalism. That is when they become cults. People need to realize though that most consequences are experienced in this life. Morality is an issue for those clever enough to get away with bad behavior.


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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    Amen!


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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    "Religion" wrong word! GOD! Not scary if GOD!

    YO: Pray for your niece! God can do ANYTHING but "fail!"

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    Brandon Riederer (LiveFitForLife) 15 months ago

    You are on the right path of logic but you are missing a premise. You are saying A -> B, therefore A-> C. You need a premise to connect B (religion) and C (morals) otherwise you are making an association fallacy.


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Yoleen Lucas (Say Yes To Life) says

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    Yoleen Lucas (Say Yes To Life) 16 months ago

    P.S.: No, it doesn' scare me. Even if God has absolute control, it's still up to the individual to decide.


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Jeremiah Alfred Ngunjiri (mywriting) says

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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    JN: When anointed with Holy Spirit, one exceeds "morality!" "..preach water & take wine." Not if according to "Gospel of Christ!" Water should b given for Communion & Scripture says so! Why "inner conflict" if no spirit fm GOD?


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    Austinstar 15 months ago

    Your last sentence says it all! A good person is just being a good person. Religion or lack of religion has nothing to do with it.


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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    "Throwing stones," r u? I'm always willing to "Grow," BUT according to WORD! Show me where wrong? That shows "Love!" Would u allow 1 u "Love" continue in error? R u not 2 "Love" ALL! "Truth" is "Love!" Would 1 allow their child to cont in err?


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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    CC: Why do u thk Christians r "controlled" for "Fear of GOD?" Yes, we "fear" Him bcuz we realize He has ALL Pwr! We were"created" by Him & "He Controls" but to assume just bcuz "He's watching" displays "ignorance" of His Word & denies His P


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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    "life have a preset and true value " True - GOD! 1 Hubber said they get "a good feeling" when doing right! Why? Bcuz our spirits r "connected" to "righteousness" Who is GOD!

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Clive Williams (clivewilliams) says

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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    CW: Do u blv in God for that is not what HE said! We were "created in His image" not as "simple animals!" I agree "innate!" This is Satan's Kingdom, which is why I cont to "teach" His Word!

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Lisa Musser (Bluemoongoddess1) says

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    Jacqui (jlpark) 15 months ago

    Thanks for your answer Lisa. Thats my query - why would atheists be immoral merely for non-believe? Yet do good things, for the sake of doing them, not because they're being watched? I like your answer


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    Yoleen Lucas (Say Yes To Life) 15 months ago

    I too was raised to fear atheists. Having surveyed other religions, I have discovered all teach empathy. Some religions are atheist; all that means is they don't believe one supernatural power controls everything, but still subject to Cause & Eff


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    Austinstar 15 months ago

    I tottaly differ from your opinion. Atheists become more in tune with humanity when they give up the notion of religion. We no longer seek out invisible dieties to save us from ourselves. We are humans!


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Princess Silva says

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    I also believe that morals are not something that still needs to be taught. You should yourself know if you're already stepping on someone's foot.

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    Jacqui (jlpark) 15 months ago

    Funny how most of the 10 are no longer followed - adultery, Murder (death penalty...killing to show killing is wrong??). But I do see what you are talking about. Thanks for sharing.


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    Brandon Riederer (LiveFitForLife) 15 months ago

    Spoken like a true philosopher! You raise legitimate ethical questions. Voted up.


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    Jacqui (jlpark) 15 months ago

    Lovesamrat - thanks for your answer.


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    Shannon Anders (Shanders) 15 months ago

    Best answer yet, in my opinion!


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    Jacqui (jlpark) 16 months ago

    I'm not saying they are, Glenda. I think you misunderstood the rest of the question. Good to hear it doesn't scare u.


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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    RL: Keep "listening" to that "inner feeling" (GOD) which tells you right fm wrong! We're "created in His Image" is why you have that "feeling" for u r "connected" to that SPIRIT!


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Sourav Mukherjee (ChanchalMukherjee) says

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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    Nope! Parents teach what they've learned yet we exp diff influences! We exp diff ppl o/s home & sometimes adhere to their beliefs + other.

    As "preacher's kid," doctrine differs fm parents' so not "ingrained..."

    Holy Spirit "tells" bible confi

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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    The statement "I believe in what I want to believe in, and nothing will change that" goes against Scripture! (Prov 3:5) Not how YOU perceive, but what IS WRITTEN in His Word! Did Peter not "succumb" to Paul's revelation under New Covenant re: circu?


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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    Liz: I've left too! Yes, "natural trait" from GOD (innate)! Yes, "some people it takes a while to flourish" for they rely on "SELF" which He allows (free will) limiting GOD!

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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    Problem is "Confucius" was "man" and "The Gospel of Christ" is ALL "Spiritual!" Who'd u rather blv, "man" or "GOD?" The Catholic Church is in err! That's why we have to "STUDY" HIS WORD, not Catholics'!


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    IM: Morals "innate" for we were "created in His image!" "Doing wrong deeds" (flesh) GROWING into SPIRITUAL (likeness of Christ) II Cor 3:18! Religion doesn't "spare fm neg deeds" but Holy Spirit by STUDY (GROWING) & blving His Words!

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    Jacqui (jlpark) 15 months ago

    Thanks for your answer. Not quite what I was asking.


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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    Prime example of one who doesn't KNOW the FUNCTION of the HOLY SPIRIT who is ALL LOVE! I don't KNOW other "religions," but Disciples of Christ are anointed with HOLY SPIRIT which equals LOVE!

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Fay (Snowsprite) says

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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    Because "unbelief" limits "proof" of GOD and is why you THINK some "follow dictates w/o question."

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    Kiss andTales 15 months ago

    For example not stating to anyone personally, but the pagan beliefs and of Christians mixed, example the festivities of the Sun God pagan deitie was combined with the Son of God, The Edic Of Milan , Adopted the mixtures of Christain And Pagan


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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    Troy: This Q comes fm "unbeliever" who doesn't have any idea what Holy Spirit is! Trying to explain "Spirit" to "unblvr" like trying to explain "evolution" to "blvr!" They rely on "self" but we KNOW GOD is Higher than man!


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    Kiss andTales 15 months ago

    Norine true the spirit of God's power works,

    But people still do wrong knowing of the spirits power, that is the very reason of the meaning to Blasphemy. Judas walked and even ate with Jesus did that stop him from betraying God's son. NO !


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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    My parents "originated" fm Baptist! Do you think I'm one today? Why can't president also change? I don't see Muslims in White House for worship service or it would've made "headlines!"


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    Jacqui (jlpark) 16 months ago

    Yet, cultures with morals existed before religion or at least before Christianity - Which is the religion most often used to say 'see Morals from God'. Maybe the evolution was into religion from those cultures?


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Shivam Pal says

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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    Morals r "..dictated by religion." NO! Religion="man made!" You meant by GOD?

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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    Glen: As stated, "unbelievers" foundation of morals came fm GOD as u state "..the 10 commandments in the Christian Bible might be a good starting point for the instruction of children." (Gal 3:24-25)

    JQ: I covered "BOTH" God looking & Blvrs r Gr


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inspiritinone says

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  • Norine Williams 15 months ago

    Amen!


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Norine Williams says

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    Jacqui (jlpark) 15 months ago

    I think that you'll find I meant it's scary what a 'believer' would be capable of if the ONLY reason they do good is cause they think God is watching, not because they think it's the right this to do.

    Otherwise, thanks for your answer


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