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Team Wiseman says
True well said Team Wiseman
Interesting insight. So what is Christianity as a religion? Because as raeyecarlos pointed out, religion is strictly following set practices of whatever religion one belongs to.
Did he not say Christianity is not a religion? Why then do u ask "What is Christianity as a religion? You use world's def of religion which is NOT GOD'S def!@
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Lisa Vollrath says
Christ followers (disciples)=Christianity!
Religion="man-made belief" or WORKS!
Stop thumping that bible, and pick up a dictionary.
Stop "picking up a dictionary" (man's definition) and "pick u a Bible!"
That is incredible Norine -- did your parents teach you to read?
Eric: Continue being facetious & considering "carnal" v "Spiritual!"
What did GOD say should be your question! Not what mama did, said, but WORD!
Now, what did WORD say re: RELIGION? Let me REPEAT Jm 1:27!
What man says is "IRRELEVANT!"
Eric- It's not her reading that concerns me. It's her writing.
Norine, can you please allow others express themselves at least, even if you can't see their point. Being a christian doesn't mean you are off to other's opinions. I am a christian myself. Christians listen. Fanatics do not.
What man says is irrelevant? Right. Guess who wrote the bible. MAN, And as for the bible...it was translated over 3000 times. Go to google translate. Write any paragraph, then translate to two or three languages, then back to english. what happens?
Oh, Norine. MEN wrote the bible. Perhaps if you picked up a few other books, you'd know that. Honestly, you object to a dictionary? I don't know what to say to that kind of willful ignorance. We're done. Be gone, before someone drops a house on you.
SATAN, you've ALREADY been defeated!
Lisa - Norine believes that open minds kill (I have a screenshot of her saying so) - that could be the issue.
TRUE! When it comes to GOD! Not "open" to anything but WORD!
Want to know what really "kills?" "IGNORANCE" of HIS WORD which inevitably leads to HELL!
"Demons" (SATAN), you have ALREADY BEEN DEFEATED!
Norine, Reading your comments, I see a cause for serious concern. With all due respect...your perception of reality is completely disturbing. U talk of fairy tales as if they are REAL!!! This is why religion(IN THE WRONG HANDS) is SO DANGEROUS!
Get: That's why WORD in the hands of a disciple is DANGEROUS! Too hot in the (unreality) kitchen? Get out!
GOD is tired of ppl "playing church" & "going alone to get alone!" HE wants TRUTH told & I'm the 1 to do it! Don't like? Move around!
Nor - the word is dangerous in Yr hands. the way in which you come across - abusive, name calling, is eerily similar to those videos put out by ISIS. it's not helping any1 to Christ, it's turning people away. Is that yr goal?
READ JESUS' "abusiveness" n Matt 23; Jn 21:12-13; Jn 2:13-25. RELIGION has taught "GOD IS LOVE" which HE is for those who have been "born again" r Holy Spirit filled! Read who HE hates Prov 6:16-19!Have u seen 1 display any of these?U thk HE loves?
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As reflected in your response= SATAN!
There is no in between - Either Satan or JESUS = Satan!
So, name calling makes you a Christian, Norine? I gather you didn't read the answer well as you've not interpreted my statement correctly. Actually, your comment had nothing to do with my answer - please stick to the topic
I Speak based on WORD!
YOU stated "I'm neither religious, nor Christian (or any other faith)." Where does that leave u? SATAN!
One either serves SATAN or GOD!
U said it, I didn't!
Being neither, ur "opinion" is not TRUTH just man's perception!
Christianity as a religion is good. But Christians who practice this religion in extremity are what i called religious fanatics.They have lost their core and they just bark. Yes, we have Christians who are Christ-like, then we the mere religious ones
"I am a christian myself. Christians listen. Fanatics do not." Really?
Did JESUS listen? Does Gal 1:6-9 sound like the Apostle Paul "listened?"
BOLD n "The Gospel of Christ" is what a Disciple should display NOT"go alone to get alone"(Eph 6:20)!
Did you even read the rest of it, Nor? There are plenty of other options than Christian and its God and its Satan. Besides, if it is yr God, then it's not yr place to judge anyone let alone call them Satan, it's His. Or do u ignore that part?
Jac: Ur (man's) "opinion" re:diff gods,"options!"
If U knew my GOD, u'd know HE LOVES for me to JUDGE! Why I cont to call u - SATAN!
A person can't offer much of anything on this forum that if it doesn't agree with Norine and her circular reasoning, is a Satanist. Logos (Gr. for Word) was meant by the sophists to be reasoned discourse...not to beat others over the head with.
Funnily enough, if I don't believe in your God, I don't believe in your Satan either. Name calling isn't an adult way to approach life, or approach bringing people to Christ. If you want me to convert, you are going the wrong way about it.
Jac: Factual enough, whether u blv in GOD or not, HE IS REAL!
I use WORD (GOD); therefore, it's not Norine calling u names, but HIS WORD (GOD)!
IT (WORD) should “cut” (Heb 4:12)!
“I plant the seed, ONLY GOD can give the increase” (I Cor 3:6)!
Ok, Norine. You keep bleating the same thing over and over again. If no one is listening by now, is it not irrational for you to keep going on and on and on with the same thing over and over again? You do your cause more harm than good.
Tapy: Maybe from "man's" standpoint, but GOD "sees" & I will be "rewarded" for doing what HE asks of me.
Praise HIS Holy Name!
Oh, what "benefits," even in this world!
Man, if going to heaven means spending an eternity with Norine, then all hail Satan.
Aime...Indeed...and an Amen as well.
Now I get it Norine. You are doing all this so that you get rewarded. Well finally you said something that makes sense. So what you do, if I did it, would get me rewarded so I should do it. Very interesting indeed.
Eric: I would expect a comment as such fm the demons (Aime & Tap), but you? Do u not know Scripture?
You can't "get it" w/wrong motives! GOD searches "the heart!" Don't u remember "Blessed r the PURE IN HEART.." (Matt 5:8)?
All you do is go around yelling at and insulting people and you think you're pure in heart....?
Sorry, you're a bully. Don't think you're reading your beloved scripture right if you think that's the goal.
Norine I am not the one who for all time proclaimed " but GOD "sees" & I will be "rewarded"". That was you and it tells volumes of your intent. Now my God gives through grace. My "reward" is not earned but given freely by Him.
Grace is a mysterious thing. Sufis are a wonder of Grace. I've seen in others & experienced Grace enough to know it is freely given. Grace is beyond doctrine, that which the mystics speak or cannot utter. NW needs to take a deep breath.
Norine, the bullying and name calling in the name of God is not Christ like at all. You act as though you are God, yet r not. Is that not what Lucifer tried to do before the fall? I know atheists more Christ like than yrself
Aime: Who died&left u the ability to see 1’s heart? Bully,by whose standards?UR’s? I give WORD! Goal is to “correct” (II Tim 2:15) IGNORANCE (I Thess4:13)!
Eric: Jer 23:24=GOD “sees!”Prov 13:21=”Reward!” WORD tells “vol of HIS INTENT!" Freely=HE
Lucifer always gets the bad rap. He's probably more the Prometheus figure than any devil. There's a famous sculpture in France at St. Paul's Cathedral, Liège, called, "The Lucifer of Liège." Very Prometheus-like with the chain on the rock.
Eric: What GOD promised is "freely given" (HELL) if u cont in ur belief!
Tap: Child, u r a waste (Jn 8:44) still comparing "carnal" to Spiritual! No hope until u MATURE to "Spiritual" realm!
Perhaps you should spend less time quoting the bible and more time learning how to communicate w/ people. The way you're trying to get your point across is not being received well, maybe reflect on why that could be.
First a Satan, then a demon, now a waste. It was amusing for a time, but you need to be reported.
Go Ahead! I can voice my belief! U voice urs! SATAN, DEMON, WASTE is what 1 is when UNBELIEVER according to WORD! I have Scripture (WORD/GOD) which says so!
You can voice your interpretations of scripture all you like, but when you become so threatened by other views that you resort to trolling and abuse, it has to stop. And it IS the relentless trolling and abuse that needs to be reported.
Norine, do you have any interest in helping other people understand the word of God or do you just like belittling them?
Let me look real hard. Is there a verse for shouting out ones great virtues to others. Or is that how one gets rewards. Norine you are confusing me by the difference in your actions from the scriptures - Word.
Tao - I agree - I've flagged this issue twice in two days. Hopefully HP will take notice. And maybe offer some help - as the comments are getting more and more....concerning for the health of the commenter.
Jacqui, I flagged the issue as well. At first I thought it was just kookiness, and then just a game, but then started to seriously wonder if there isn't a deeper problem going on, so yes, concern is certainly justified.
The sad thing is, if it were an atheist or a Muslim speaking like that, they'd have been banned...or accused of terrorism - likely by the one of whom we speak. I'm just tired of the name calling + abuse. I'd happily listen/discuss without that.
I think you are right, Jacqui. Discussion and debate are good things, even the occasional snark can be enlightening, but the relentless derision and going off into left field, well, that is more a disruption and diminishes other points of view..
ALL: Report! "IF I DIE, I DIE!" GOD has better in store for me! I BELIEVE in GOD & ALL OF HIS WORD! My belief as u have yours! I've voiced HIS WORD & you've voiced opposition! Is that illegal? NOPE! Just SATAN @ work!
TRUTH will be ALL'S
What if you have it wrong, Nor? What if your interpretation of his word is wrong? You say he speaks to you - r u sure it's Him, or could it be Satan deceiving u by pretending? Have you considered any of this? What if God wishes u to speak of Love?
I KNOW it's HIM for It's in HIS WORD & I REPEAT WORD! HE doesn't contradict HIMSELF, nor LIE (Num 23:19)! U want to know why I call those against GOD "Satan/Demon?" READ I Cor 10:21!
TRUTH “IS” LOVE
Not contradict? John 1:18 No man has seen God. Exodus 33:11 the Lord spake to Moses face to face. Gen. 32:30 Jacob said, I have seen God face to face. Tim 2:3-4 God wants all men to be saved. John 12:40 God does not want all men to be saved.
Jm 2:19!! WOW=SATAN!
I knew u were FIRM in belief for some reason. As "man," I perceived GAY (Rm18:32)!
GOD is SPIRIT(Jn 4:24)=Bush="Face"(as HE uses man also)!
Jn 12:40=TRUE=When man"loves the praise of men more than GOD"(Jn12:43)!
Is this u?
Quote: "As "man," I perceived GAY " What does THAT mean? That I'm a man and gay? I'm neither. What is wrong with you? But if I were one or both, I still ask what is wrong with you? You never reply to a direct argument, just circular babbling.
Me, being a "man" (human), perceived your hate for GOD was bcuz u were gay! Sorry!
However, something must have turned u off! What? Too much education. U leaned to your own understanding?
Nor - that obsessional assumption again? Not all atheists are gay, nor are all gay people atheist. I may be both but what turned me off religion was science, the violence in the name of religion, hypocritical believers. Nothing at all to do with gay.
Jac: I've NEVER said "ALL" but "MOST!"
"..what turned me off religion was science, the violence in the name of religion, hypocritical believers."
According to "man's" def re:religion?
"Science?" (Prov 3:5)
The others didn't "WAIT" (Acts 1:4)!
Most is still inaccurate, + u have no proof of claim.
Too much education? Huh? Surely as is mentioned when a Dr saves a pt - God gave them the skill etc - surely God would prefer we have the education he has provided?
MOST IS STILL INACCURATE? WORD?
NO PROOF? THEN PROVIDE BOOK!
EDUCATION IS FOR “CARNAL” REALM! GOD’S WORD IS FOR “SPIRITUAL” REALM (Jn 4:24)= TRUE WORSHIPERS! EITHER U BLV WORD OR NOT!
Norine - you make the claim, you provide the book/article to back it up. Not me.
So, I gather, with you abhorrence of education, you wouldn't see a Dr if you were sick? Just pray? What if God made education for the Dr to save u?
The Bible IS THE BOOK! What other book has as many "ACCURATE PROPHESIES?" PROOF!
Who says Dr's r not to be used in "carnal" (physical) realm.
Being "carnal" & not "Spiritual" is the problem when "WORSHIPING GOD!"
We aren't talking about prophesies. We're talking about Gays and Atheists.
So, where in the Bible does it say MOST atheists are gay or vice versa? Seeing as you refuse to provide any other book or article to back your point. I'm waiting.
Man has become SOOO intelligent, hating God, loving self, until they r given over to a reprobate mind, dishonoring their bodies, blving LIES, leaving the natural use of their bodies they love themselves SOOO much!
Anyone u KNOW?
"Though they knew God" - they aren't Atheists. They're Pagan. Try again.
Those verses are Pauls (along with the Cor ones) trying to draw people away from Pagan faiths, by condemning the sexual nature of some of the rituals. Context is helpful.
Jac: U try again! Rm 1:18-20=U KNOW GOD, just want admit! I BELIEVE ALL OF HIS WORD which says Atheist r LIARS!
STUDY WORD! Paul acted in JESUS' stead! Not just a man, but GOD'S VESSEL (Acts 9:15) whom HE spoke through!
STUDY WORD NOT JUNK ("man")!
It doesn't prove that ALL or even MOST atheists are gay, nor do those verses mean ANYONE was atheist or gay. Context is necessary. You r the 1 trying to prove something - u need to try again.
MOST r according to WORD! "vile affections?" Gave up "natural use of body?" Men burned in lust toward one another "leaving the natural use of a woman?" What does that mean to u? (Rm 1:24; 26-27)!
Keep LYING! U KNOW!
Name calling? Again? Not lying - you are REMOVING from context. The context of Rom/Cor makes the difference. Not enough characters here - am writing a hub on answer - give me a day (I actually have a life, a wee child + a job on top of answering you)
I look forward 2 reading ur HUB! Good luck w/little one! I pray for both!
Listen! I have no problem w/Gay or Atheist (WORD does), just telling ALL TRUTH in HIS WORD which offends MOST but TRUTH=LOVE=GOD (me 2) desires NO ONE IS LOST (2Pet3:9)!
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gaurav oberoi says
Man can believe whatever he wants re: religion! His "opinion" (def) does not matter. ONLY GOD'S!
Who should we obey, "Man or God?"
The "religions" you mentioned are "IDOLS" according to GOD!
"IF" a "CHRIST FOLLOWER" (disciple), Jm 1:27=religion
In this world of anarchy and chaos religiousness is elusive. The main objective of any religion should be inculcating righteousness. If a follower of any religion has that quality I believe he/she is religious.
GO: U r entitled to "believe" what u want but if not WRITTEN in WORD, it's a LIE!
I BELIEVE ALL of HIS WORD!
GOD would never force a human to believe in one particular religion. As long as we believe in the path of righteousness, love and forgiveness. What matters more, the religion you follow or what kind of a human you are?
YOU don't KNOW "JEALOUS" GOD (Exd 20:3)!
I Chron 22:19; Matt 22:37 "ALL YOUR HEART..."
What's left for another god?
What it says is,"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind" your God means the God you follow that bestows upon you 'lux sapientiae' or the light of wisdom. God transcends religion
GO: Where is IT WRITTEN in Bible (THE ONLY TRUE & LIVING GOD) "God transcends religion?" IF NOT, A LIE!
GOD HATES "Man made" RELIGIONS (Budda, Muslim, Hindu, etc)! They serve idols (other gods)!
"GOD" IS NOT in THOSE!
NW again Bible is not the only scripture in the world and can you prove that Hinduism which BTW is much older than Christianity is Hated by God? Did God gave You this info first hand? Acc to bible God gave humans free will, freedom of choice.
YES HE DOES GIVE "FREEDOM OF CHOICE" to be a murderer, gay, thief, liar, etc & there are consequences for "freedom of choice!"
MY GOD is the ONLY TRUE & LIVING GOD who has fulfilled more prophecies in Bible than any other god!
SO,who do u
It is good to have a staunch faith in the God you believe in but for me, no matter how may names you give or traits you define of different Gods, God is one and everything else are just names and traits. God means the 'Infinite Creative Intelligence'
YOUR definition of GOD (Webster) is not GOD'S definition of HIMSELF! The Bible tells ALL! Read it! Other gods are mere "idols!" Read the Bible! And stop "leaning to your own understanding" (Prov 3:5)!
Man in comparison is but a "peanut brain!"
First of all this is 2016 not 1016. Secondly get your history right first before arguing incescently.Bible is not the only scripture to extend God's words. Geeta came 3000 years before Bible.You dont even know that Islam followers donot worship idols
First of all, "Lean not to ("man's) your own understanding" (Prov 3:5)! I BLV GOD rather than "man!" If HE created ALL, I don't care what man says r when they say it happened! I don't care who worships what IF not GOD, a LIE!
U dont care what man says or u actually dont have any original ideas? Agn,get your history right Geeta is not man's words it was spoken by Lord Krishna on the battlefield of Kurukshetra.Teachings of Geeta have been proven in the Lab by Dr. Dean Radin
GO: MY GOD is SPIRIT!
YOURS "in Lab by Dr. Dean Radin (man)?"
Who's "original?" SPIRIT (Constant Change) or Junk in Lab (man)?
Provide a book w/as MANY ACCURATE PROPHECIES as Bible, then we'll have something to talk about!
NW I have been telling you from the beginning of this discussion, get your history right. Bible WAS brought to the written word BY MAN. And what do you keep ranting about 'MY GOD' you are just 1 of 6 billion people on the planet, who bears the rest?
I have been asking you “from the beginning” to provide a book w/no response!
“History?” MY GOD created ALL! HE is “history!”
Sure, “man” wrote via “inspiration of GOD” (2 Tim 3:16) as “man” prophesied all of those “ACCURATE PROPHECIES!”
And I have given you names of 5 scriptures which “man” wrote via “inspiration of GOD” and you disregarded that reply wilfully. till now I am waiting for your reply on the case of Ma Htwe Win
Man's understanding (re: reincarnation=IRRELEVANT)! Proof in "lab" maybe a LIE! GOD'S WORD (inspired by GOD, written by man) not a LIE (Num 23:19)!
"..the case of Ma Htwe Win?" If not in WORD=LIE!
Where's book r MY GOD is THE GOD!
Oh so what you are basically saying is that the holy scriptures of rest of the 4199 religions are all a sham? Only bible has the complete knowledge of it all?? Say it is so and You are in for a big shocker lady.
"IT IS SO!"
NOW PROVIDE THAT BOOK OR END OF CONVERSATION!
It is So? oh! how foolish can man be. Books are Atharvavede Samveda Yajurveda Rigveda. Even meditation and Yoga followed by millions of Christians is a product of Hinduism,IGNORAMUS.Now that you dont have an original IDEA you are cowering out of this
U r the IGNORAMUS stuck in "Cultural Tradition" worshiping "idol" rather than the TRUE & LIVING GOD!
"Cowering out?" IF U WEREN'T U WOULD PROVIDE A BOOK W/MORE "ACCURATE FULFILLED PROPHECIES" THAN THE BIBLE; OTHERWISE, U LIE!
If you are so dumb that I have to tell you the same thing over and over again so many times I have enumerated 5 books which have proven and contributed much more than any other book. For e.g number system , mechanics, etc.
WHAT R U TALKING ABOUT "MECHANISM, NUMBERS, ETC" I'M TALKING "PROPHESIES!" THOSE FULFILLED & TO COME AS W/ISRAEL! WHY R U SO IGNORANT MIXING SPIRIT W/CARNAL? GIVE ME BOOK WITH MORE "ACCURATE" FULFILLED PROPHECIES & THOSE HAPPENING IN BIBLE "T
Lemme know some of the prophecies you have been tooting about for 2 weeks.
TOO MANY! CONTACT PERRY STONE MINISTRIES. HE HAS STUDIED "IN DEPTH" RE: END TIME PROPHECIES!
WHEN ATHEIST CONSTANTLY ASKED FOR "PROOF" OF GOD, GOD TOLD ME TO ASK FOR PROPHECIES!
I'VE BEEN CALLED TO "CORRECT DOCTRINE," NOT END TIME PROPHECIES!
oh you cant even enumerate what you rant about all day long?I am a staunch believer of God and not an atheist.But you are the biggest dark hell-hole dwelling personality I have ever met
MY GOD GIVES "GIFTS" TO EACH MEMBER (I COR 12)! HE REVEALS WHAT "HE WANTS" TO EACH MEMBER ACCORDING TO "HIS WILL!" WE ARE NOT SPECIALIZED IN "ALL FIELDS" AS U R IN UR BOOKS! WE R SERVANTS OF CHRIST, UTILIZED BY HIM FOR "HIS GLORY!"
Yeah. Do or die is right but don't deviate from the topic. my question is simple and if you have not studied then go get UR history right. WHICH PROPHECY IN BIBLE DECLARES THE OCCURANCE OF 300 yrLONG WITCH HUNT KILLING 100000 BY BRUTALLY BURNING THEM
YOU "REALLY" DON'T KNOW "THE ALMIGHTY!"
HE IS CONCERNED ONLY W/US BEING RECONCILED UNTO HIM!
HE CAME, DIED, GAVE US WAY TO BE RECONCILED TO HIM VIA BIBLE!
OTHER ACTIONS, UP TO US! FREE WILL=CONSEQUENCES!
Dont deviate. We were talking about the prophecies. Tell me the prophecy predicting the great witch hunt or u r LYING
CAN'T U UNDERSTAND ENGLISH?
MY "CALLING" IS NOT PROPHECIES! GOD TOLD ME TO ASK ATHEIST TO PRODUCE BK - I OBEYED! U DEVIATE FROM WHOM I AM! STUDY PROPHECIES "TO COME" & THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN ACCURATELY FULFILLED TO SEE "THE ALMIGHTY I AM!"-MY G
GO - a level head kept when faced with what you've been faced with - well done
Nor - you know that hearing God is a symptom of schizophrenia, don't you? Why should we believe u, and yet medicate 1000s of others for the same thing?
Hey Girl!Happy Valentine's Day!Hope baby's fine! I know 1 that's never exp'd the POWER of GOD would say Schizo! It's OK- but REAL! I pray ALL would allow Schizo come into their lives!Bible will be fulfilled which says they'll say such (I Cor 2:14)
Thanks Jacqui I appreciate the support
Norine, what did you just say?A sudden change of Stand.U had been ranting about prophecies for 2weeks and now u cant answer this simple question?IsThereA prophecyOnWitchHuntInBibleOrNot? ifNotInWrittenWord=LIE
GO: U R THE LAIR! BE "VERY" CAREFUL THAT U DO NOT BLASPHEME! JOHN 21:25 SAYS"..THERE R ALSO MANY OTHER THGS WHICH JESUS DID IF THEY SHOULD BE WRITTEN EVERY ONE, I SUPPOSE THAT EVEN THE WORLD ITSELF COULD NOT CONTAIN THE BKS THAT SHOULD BE WRITTEN."
Dont u dare threaten me on a public forum.I know what I am and blaphemist is not it.I m a staunch believer of God &I need not prove it 2U.That being said answer my question or stop bothering me anymore.forDays you have calling sacred Geeta a lie
DON'T U DARE THREATEN ME! IF U CALL WORD "A LIE" MY BELIEF, U BLASPHEME! GOD NOT CONCERNED W/WITCH HUNT BUT FOR ALL TO BE RECONCILED TO HIM!
AND YES, ALL OTHERS "IDOLS!"
You have been calling the words of Geeta a LIE for the last two weeks, ItsAholy book sacred to 1.25billion people.Who gave you the right to do thatWhen you can't even answer simple questions?Hv you acquired a special licence to defame other religions
I VOICE “MY BELIEF” AS U URS!
MORE “TWISTED CHRISTIANS” THAN THAT (1.25B)! GOD CALLED ME TO “UNTWIST!”
I’VE ANSWERED ALL, U WON’T ACCEPT!
I HAVE BEEN “CHOSEN” BY GOD TO "TEACH!"
Don't deviate. Did bible prophecise the Rhineland massacres during the 391 year long Crusades sanctioned by various Popes? If yes, show me the exact prophecy and what did people like yourself do to stop the massacres.If not in written word=LIE
“VARIOUS POPES” OR NICEAN COUNCIL“TWISTED” THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST! GOD (WORD) AGREES “POPES” ARE EVIL! CHGD WORD TO LOSE SOULS @ NICEAN COUNCIL! NOW YOU'RE BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND WHY "TWISTED" (JN 10:10)!
DID U READ JN 21:25; “BKS CAN’T CONTAIN?”
JN10:10The thief comes only to steal-
JN21:25Jesus did many other
I get that but it doesnt answer my ques
Did bible prophecise the Rhineland massacres that changed theCOURSEof history forever?SHOW ME THE PROPHECY
If not in written word=LIE
REVERSE PSYCH WON'T WORK!
JN 21:25 “CAN’T CONTAIN ALL” R CAN’T U READ?
MY BELIEF, IF ONE CALLS WORD (HOLY SPIRIT) “LIE,” (MK3:29) = “BALSPHEMY!”
PROVIDE “GEETA’S” BK W/ “AS MANY ACCURATE FULFILLED PROPHECIES” AS BIBLE OR “LIE”(IDOL;EXD 20:3)!
DID U NOT HEAR "AS MANY" IN MY Q? ONLY 12?
HOW ABOUT "THGS TO COME?" GEETA DIDN'T DO IT & U KNOW IT! ONLY THE "ONLY TRUE & LIVING GOD!" WHY EVADE "TRUTH?"
IF U WANT TO HAVE KNOWLEDGE "MOST" DON'T, STUDY FUTURE PROPHECIES!
How dim are you? How do you know its a true prophecy until it comes to passing.I guess you don evn kno dis bu the sound spectrum emitted by the sunWASanalysed to find it matching the spectrum of theSanskritWord OM(Universal spiritualSymbol-Hinduism)
HOW DIM R U?
READ THE BOOK OF DANIEL & SEE HOW UN WORKING NOW!
WHY DON'T U INVEST TIME IN SOMETHING WHICH GIVES U MORE "KNOWLEDGE" RATHER THAN "TRYING" TO EVADE TRUTH ABOUT THE ONE & ONLY TRUE & LIVING GOD!
WHO CAN WITHSTAND HIM?
You are proving ur dimwittedness by thinking that somehow Bible is the only prime book in the world.the question here is not abt withstandin God its abt u calling evry other religion in the world fake.you are no better thn any other fanaticTERRORIST
FIRM BELIEF - YES! VIOLENT - NO!
MY GOD DIED TO GIVE "GRACE AND MERCY!" DOES THAT SOUND "VIOLENT" IGNORAMUS?
GO READ THE BOOK OF DANIEL & LEARN SOMETHING!
Oh Norine finally u r in alignment with the discussion.Now let me ask u smt.tell me what value has your belief added to ur life?just a straiht answer plz.no trick answers.what would ur life be without this belief?how has ur life impovdBECAUSEofBELIEF
LMTD CHAR! (II COR 5:17)! IF ONE IS "IN CHRIST" & "TRULY BELIEVES," HE BLVS SO MUCH UNTIL "ANY & ALL" ACTIONS ARE MANIFESTED (MATT 19:26)! JESUS SAID IN JN 14:12 "...HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME, THE WORKS THAT I DO SHALL HE DO ALSO; & "GREA
great, but I am not talking about the nature of your belief I am enquiring about the actual values (E.g. Kindness, perseverance, resilience) that your belief has added to your life? This time I expect a straight answer
WHAT U ARE TALKING R ONLY "BY-PRODUCTS" OR "BENEFITS" OF ONE BEING "IN CHRIST!" PSALMS 103:2 "BLESS THE LORD, O MY SOUL, AND FORGET NOT ALL "HIS BENEFITS!" KEEP READING! REMEMBER: I WAS CHOSEN TO "TEACH!"
TRUTH IS LOVE, LOVE IS GOD, GOD IS WORD!
Absolutely, They are actually the fruits that the tree of faith bears. The outcome of having faith in God. Right or Wrong?
RIGHT! BUT WE "MUST" GO BACK TO "THE ONE & ONLY TRUE & LIVING GOD," THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC & JACOB-MY GOD-R WORSHIPING "IDOL!" THIS IS WHERE WE BEGAN! NOW THERE ARE "spirits" BUT NOT "THE SPIRIT" WHICH IS OF "THE ALMIGHTY - "I AM!"
Good so finally we agree on smth.So if a person can experience the same outcomes by his own belief system why force him to change his religious environment whn the result is the same just the way of achieving it is different?
"MY GOD" HAS SAID IN GAL 1:6-9 (V8) "BUT THOUGH WE, OR AN "ANGEL FROM HEAVEN," PREACH "ANY OTHER GOSPEL UNTO U THAN THAT WHICH WE HAVE PREACHED UNTO U, LET HIM BE "ACCURSED!" (V9) AS WE SAID BEFORE...LET HIM BE ACCURSED!" TWICE!
which means'Those who would establish any other way to heaven than what the gospel of Christ reveals, will find themselves wretchedly mistaken. ' RIGHT?
RIGHT! ACCORDING MY GOD,THE "ONE & ONLY TRUE & LIVING GOD, THE ALMIGHTY "I AM" JEHOVAH, THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC & JACOB!
AGAIN, THERE ARE "NOT" MANY HIGHWAYS TO THE ALMIGHTY, BUT ONE WAY (JOHN 14:6) & HIS NAME IS "JESUS!"
oh wow! meaning thereby that all the Hidus(or the followers of any other of the 4199 remaining religions)who have died till date have all been damned&gone to hell?Just because they did not follow Christianity?
I AM "NOT GOD" BUT A SERVANT WHO REPEATS HIS WORD! HE HAS "FINAL" SAY SO! HE STATED "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I WILL HAVE MERCY, & I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I WILL HAVE COMPASSION" (RM 9:15)! BUT IT IS WRITTEN (GAL 1:6-9)!
Can Ihave a straight yes no answer?R U clear abt what Bible says?If yes answer my ques.All the Hidus(or the followers of any other of the 4199 remaining religions)who have died till date have all been damned&gone to hellJus Bcz they WRNT Christia
WHY DO U PRETEND U CAN'T UNDERSTAND OR READ @ UR CONVENIENCE?
WHAT PART OF "I AM NOT GOD" WHO HAS "FINAL SAY SO" DON'T U UNDERSTAND?
READ MY RESPONSE AGAIN!
I get it now.U R not pretending to be dumb.U R DUMB.U have been tooting for so long that U spread God's word.Are U doing so without even knowing what those words mean?have you or have U not read Bible's Commentaries?
"BIBLE COMMENTARIES" R ONLY "MAN'S INTERPRETATION" OF WHAT HOLY SPIRIT REVEALS BETTER! R U SERIOUS?
I'VE DONE MY JOB-IT'S UP TO U TO "CHOOSE" (JOSH 24:15)! WE ALL HAVE "FREE WILL" THE CHOICE IS YOURS!
Usay-BIBLE COMMENTARIES" R ONLY "MAN'S INTERPRETATION" OF WHAT HOLY SPIRIT REVEALS BETTER!
U r also but a HUMAN and still U have been calling all other religions 'Definite path to Hell?'
Now answer my QUES
AGAIN, I'VE DONE MY JOB! NOW CHOOSE (JOSH 24:15)!
STUDY END TIME PROPHECIES TO DISCOVER THE ONLY TRUE & LIVING GOD WHOSE NAME IS "JESUS!"
I DON'T CARE.1stLY U HAVE FAILED TO SHOW ME THE PROPHECIES FOR EVENTS THAT TRANSFORMED THE COURSE OF EUROPEAN HISTORY FOREVER.2ndly U TRY TO PLAY GOD AND DECLARE ALL OTHER RELIGIONS TO BE FAKE WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING smthWORHT A DIME abt THEM.GET OFFme
ALL I "EVER" ASKED U TO DO WAS "PRO A BK WITH AS MANY ACCURATE FULFILLED PROPHECIES AS THE BIBLE," R OTHER gods "IDOLS" WHICH U HAVE NOT! THEREFORE, MY GOD IS THE "ONLY" TRUE & LIVING GOD!
NOT "ON YOU," BUT ALL (EVEN "TWISTED" CHRISTIANS)!
and I provide A book called Geeta five times but you wr callous enough to ignore.It contains all the twelve prime prophecies that have already come true. If you ask the same ques one more time you will be earning the award of dimwit of the year
"ONLY 12?" THE Q IS "AS MANY!"
U HAVE "EARNED THE AWARD FOR DIMWIT OF "LIFETIME!"
GO STUDY THE BOOK OF DANIEL FOR THOSE TO COME!
seriously, do you know anything about ANYTHING?Kaliyuga and its verses are just one section of Geeta.THATS why I have been telling you from day 1.Get UR HISTORY RIGHTThat being said I must confess.Talking to U is addictive.U R A formidable opponent
Research states the BIBLE has "MORE ACCURATE "FULFILLED" PROPHECIES than ANY BOOK in the WORLD" (including Geeta's)! So why deny?
Who were the research agents
What was the sample size
What was the span
Where is the meta analysis
When was it published
Which paper published it
Who were the authors of the paper
What were the odds against chance
I'm satisfied with the book (Bible) that is #1 Best Seller in America & It's "most accurate fulfilled prophecies!"
You doubt, so you research to find out if true!
You said; research states.....
So tell me the details of the research and how many and exactly which other holy scriptures was the Bible compared to ....to get to that conclusion
Again, I'm "satisfied!" You "Study to shew thyself approved unto God..." (II Timothy 2:15)!
You must feel there is "validity" to "research" or you wouldn't continue to ask!
Read Bible & compare to Geeta to resolve any questions!
Why do you always have to complicate things? U said research states ... I said show me the research details.... simple...
Again! U doubt-I don't!
If I give details, you will find fault!
So, in order to resolve, do research by studying Bible & Geeta FOR YOURSELF to find which of the 2 has the "MOST ACCURATE FULFILLED PROPHECIES!"
"No doubt!" n OWN research, rt
First off why do u worry abt faults when acc to u its perfect. Secondly i already hav no doubt abt Bible being a great scripture.i just find ur comparisons discomforting.
Not "great Scripture" but ONLY SCRIPTURE!
Others "IDOLS" (Exd 20:3-7)!
Either u BELIEVE "ALL" of HIS WORD or not!
"Choose" (Josh 24:15)!
"Discomforting?" According to Heb 4:12, IT should!
Hey, enough Norine, i have been trying to be patient with you. What do u mean only scripture.u mean to say all the other thousands of yr old religions are a sham?as u hold ur religion close 2ur heart others do to.m not going to tolerate such insults
“Patient?” II Tim 4:1-5 (v2) “longsuffering!” (v3) “itching ears!” (v4) “fables!” (v5) “prove!” Yes, “ONLY SCIRPTURE & “sham!” “Others do 2?” Why “itching ears!” “Tolerate insults?” If WORD is “insult,” MY BELIEF, so , take it up w/GOD!
Enough is enough norine and no true religious person insults other religions. You have been doing that with so many people. Insulting personality=insecure personality=non religious personality=fake personality.if u want to be heard be patient first
I AM “not” religious–that’s ur role! I’m Christ-like!!!
Did JESUS not “insult” RELIGIOUS persons (Matt 23)?
After 80+ comments,u thk 2 Tim 4:1-5 (v2) “longsuffering” is not “patient?”
U have “itching ears” (v3) & anything else= "insult!"
Christ Like? You? I find you more wood-like. Oh, but I think if we check the IQ of wood it would beat you.
Everyone has an (backside) as they do an opinion! Your opinion is as your backside!
Really Norine?!!! The Bible did say 'live peaceably with all men' and I don't see you doing that. If this is how you behave here, I wonder what you do to those whom you see physically. Probably eat them alive for having their own views.
FINALLY GOT YOUR LITTLE "TWO CENTS" IN "JUDGING!" CONTINUE IN YOUR "TWISTED" DOCTRINE! I'VE "WARNED" YOU! GALATIANS 1:6-9!
NW:1. No true believer insults other religions like u do hence u r not religious so stop posing like one.
2. U have absolutely no knowledge of any other religion so u r absolutely unqualified put forward such unhoned uncouth opinions.
1. Tell GOD to “stop “insulting” & “posing” for HE is the ONE who said “Thou shalt have no other god before me” (Exd 20:3)!
2. IF IT IS WRITTEN, I need “no knowledge of any other (man-made) religion!” So tell GOD HE is “absolutely unqualified…!”
Do you know anything?U cant quote a few words from Bible in isolation with others.It is clearly mentioned,' Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.' Now according 2Uif the abovementioned neighbour is notA Christian you wont follow the Commandment?
Do u know ANYTHING? "Love thy neighbor as thyself" means to treat 1 the way u want to be treated which I've done for I've told TRUTH which is the way I wanted to be treated! It doesn't mean "love" everyone for "GOD HATES" (Prov 6:16-19)!
How ignorant are u?do you even know how Bible was compiled. What happened before common era?what are the primordial axioms of natural mechanism?what is the prime schema of menifestation of consciousness?do u know ANYTHING ABT ANYTHING?U HYPOCRITE
From the Q's u ask, u apparently don't BELIEVE in the GOD of Abraham, Issac & Jacob - "MY GOD!"
Woe be unto YOU!
oh, so now that u dont have anything else to say u r cursing people on the forum?what do u know about my faith in god?And fyi it is not unbeliever it is non-believer.that is the right word.IGNORAMUS
U cont to "lean to ur OWN understanding," huh (Prov 3:5)? MY GOD calls it "unbelieving" U IGNORAMUS (II Cor 4:4) but u continue to display who u r (an IGNORANT "MAN") who is an "UNBELIEVER" & doesn't have the SPIRIT of MY GOD!
U Ignoramus there is no such thing as UR God.God created U and Me and Everyone and Everything else.GOD IS ONE.Now that U Keep ranting on using the words 'MY GOD' agn&agn I must ask,Since when did God become UR personal Property?
Why do u know so LITTLE about Scripture? GEETA didn't "copy" enough?
MY GOD created ALL (including ur GEETA) & HIS WORD (Ps 63:1-2; 118:28, etc) says "MY GOD!"
NOW, who's the "IGNORAMUS?"
Copy? So now u r accusing Geeta which is 5000 years old to have copied from a much later scripture?
PRECISELY what I'm talking about! Who told u that? Man? PRECISELY why the world is in the shape it is today & u people believe! Prov 3:5! Studying man's opinion kills (II Cor 3:6; II Tim 3:16)!
Noring, Boring, Bible Bashing,
Throws out words a-lashing.
Gets returned a word of Grace
But throws it back to tar your face.
"Man's opinion" again, huh? Everyone has a behind! What good is it for Salvation?
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Spoken like a TRUE RELIGIOUS FANATIC! Who cares how "the world" defines religion? GOD HATES RELIGION! Matt 23:23 says RELIGION has "...omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy and faith: these ought ye to have done.."
James 1:27: Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.
The denominational superflous "middlemen" of organized religion are stained by the world in their ceremony, liturgy, creeds, sacraments and money that has created pride, works, fear and guilt.
In that case, there is a difference isn't there? U just made ALL ur "birds" LIARS (Ps 119:63)!
WORKS=RELIGION according to Jm 1:27; whereas a "Christian"= a follower of Christ who "Worships in Spirit & in Truth" (Jn 4:24)!
Did u "WAIT" (Acts 1:4
The term “Christian” was never used by Jesus, or his followers in the New Testament, but a term used among non-believers about the disciples. The term “disciple(s)” is used over two-hundred plus times in Scripture to describe those who follow Jesus.
Yes. Religion is works. Religion is carrying out the faith ie caring for widows and orphans, preaching the Gospel. Those who worship in Spirit and in truth cannot resist to do these things.
P&N: On that (listen Kris) "We agree!" A "follower of Christ" (Disciple), is 1 who does as Acts 2:42 or Gal 1:6-9="ACCURSED!"
Kris: Don't add r take away (Rev 22:18-19). Jm 1:27 "...& to keep 1 self unstained by the world."
NOTHING ABOUT PREA
James 1:27 may not mention preaching the Gospel, but it is the most important part of carrying out our religion it is the Great Commission! I do not add, but view the verse in context with the entire NT
Krs; That's how RELIGION has "twisted" WORD into a LIE!
Jm 1:27 = "Great Commission?" Stop "twisting!"
"...but view the verse in context with the entire NT." That's your "interpretation" or "perception!"
Give WORD not "your opinion!"
Barine, thank you for this wonderful question, unfortunately I have to unfollow it. It is beginning to flood my inbox and I no longer want to read these arguments with Norine.
Kris: U could've learn "UNTWISTED" WORD! Ur lost!
What do u think SATAN does but argue "with" TRUTH? Ever heard of Scribes & Pharisees?
I count it all joy based on Jn 15:18 "If the world hates u, keep n mind they hated me 1st" (JESUS speaking)!
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Eric Dierker says
I do not mean to be over-promotional, but I hope you will my hub that I posted in my answer. I think it might offer you some encouragement.
WOW!"There really is no "difference" between a religious person & a Christian" (Matt 23:23)? What diff? READ WORD! IF U "have x to mediate on Bible, why "twisted" understanding? Didn't "WAIT?" "Judgmental?" WORD "judges," not 1(Is 59:8)! Ps119:63
Norine I hope this finds you well. But you are very boring. Capital letters mean a yell. You yell so much I think you will hyperventilate. Jesus spoke in parables for one reason. Figure it out.
Eric: I speak as Holy Spirit directs!
"Parables" yes, but fm ur resp, u didn't understand (Matt 13:10-13)!
If "boring," confirmation u don't "understand"(I Cor2:14)
It's x u allow Holy Spirit HELP u "figure it out!"
"Go back" & "WAIT"(Acts 1:4
Norine, If the HS speaks to A one way and B another which is the truth? Surely you do not limit the HS. And surely we are all different? Why does HS tell you to tell me what HS says. Can't I have my own conversation?
The HS is GOD (aka JESUS; Jn 14:26 “..in MY (Jesus’) name..!” GOD isn't man that HE LIES, nor repent..” (Num 23:19)! Heb 13:8 “The same yesterday, today & forever!” We are diff, but not HS & wouldn’t tell me 1 thg & u another! 1 WRONG! I
Well HS told me to be longsuffering with you. I bet HS did not tell you to be longsuffering with you. Norine we all are gifted just differently, so we are all spoken to differently. Otherwise we are just numbers to God. HS talks to you differently.
Eric:Then I Cor 12 LIED! Why r u so “ignorant” concerning “spiritual gifts?” Did u read I Cor 12? Don’t u blv WORD? U LIE when u say, THAT ONE SPIRT “talks to each differently!” Who “taught” u that? Complacency defies WORD (II Cor 3:18)! STUDY!
Norine are you saying that we are all alike and the same like religion does? HS speaks to Paul different than to you. To me different than you. Are you totally insane? You think that He does not love us seperately?
4. We do attend and are against those that don't.
Maybe Rich. Probably an undercurrent. Good food for thought. Do they look down on me when I don't attend? -- my wife does. Interesting. Maybe I won't go just to deride them.
Can’t go to rr 5 sec, demons come! IF 1 SPIRIT, why would HE thk r tell anything diff? Why remain “ignorant” (I Cor 12)? Did u read? Have wife read since u’re 2 LAZY or Ignore if u like, it won’t chg!
Rich: U don’t know me! Stop “guessing” looks...
Norine, you are better than me and closer to God. Does that make you happy?
1 and 2 are all there should be, but we know there is 3,4, and who knows how many others I added four because I at one time in my life was a 4, and had twisted scripture to back me up. God says hot or cold, no buildings mentioned.
Eric, do not let Norine get you down. She yells "study" but if you study the Bible and reach a different conclusion from her you are "from Satan". For only Norine hears the Holy Spirit correctly.
Norine is a work in progress and we shall be patient. She reminds me of so many others. Well worth the effort but then they just move on. So be it.
ALL: I'm glad I BELIEVE "ALL" of HIS WORD & not just "Selective Scriptures!"
Genesis 12:3 "...I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee..."
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Bible says different!
Probably does, so does the koran, so does the book of mormon, so does every other text written about a "certain religion". You must not understand. You can be religious, and not christian, but you can't be christian, and NOT religious.
The ONLY place RELIGION fits into "Christianity" is WORKS done by "Christians!"
Jm 1:27 "PURE RELIGION & undefiled before GOD & the Father is this, To visit the fatherless & widows in their affliction, & to keep himself unspotted fm
jravity there is a school of thought that basically says if you attend church services you are religious. If you do not and believe in Jesus as a disciple you are not religious. Some view church services as demonic. To them Christian is not a religio
Eric: Why would "Some view church services as demonic?" "Assembling of the saints" is in WORD (Heb 10:25)!
"To them Christian is not a religion" Acts 5:29 "We ought to obey GOD rather than man!"
Jm 1:27=RELIGION is "WORKS" by "Christians!"
I understand what you mean when you say you can be religious and not be a Christian. The zealots of other religions can be considered religious too. Christians are termed religious because they exhibit a certain lifestyle to live to God's standard an
I cont to say “Christians” (or "Disciples of Christ”) aren't RELIGIOUS! RELIGION is defined n WORD n Jm 1:27(WORKS)!
RELIGION is what man accepts and/or expects IAW their perception not The Gospel of Christ (Acts 2:42)!
Gal 1:6-9 or ”ACCURSED!"
The only reason this question is getting complicated is because people are bringing there own religious beliefs into it. Anybody who has a religion is religious. Anybody who is christian is religious. Try answering without refering to your beliefs.
How does that work exactly? Having a view without?
As yours doesn't, MY OPINION does not matter!
That's precisely what's wrong with the world today which defies WORD.
Prov 3:5 "Lean not to YOUR OWN understanding" & is why OUR OPINIONS DO NOT MATTER- ONLY WORD!
Its easy...just put yourself outside of your religion for a second. Then answer the question. Your belief is not the question. She wanted to know the difference. No matter what your religion, including christian, you are religious. That simple.
I understand what you mean when you say one can be religious and not be a christian. The zealots of other religions can be considered religious too. Christians are termed religious because they try to live to God's standard and emulate Jesus
I dont know if it helped barine, but I really did try.
Why delete my comments?
Why does one concern self with how "THE WORLD" defines "Christianity" v "Religion?"
The Q should've been "In Your Opinion..." because I can see NO ONE wants TRUTH (WORD)!
You really don't get this norine. This is your truth. No one is trying to take that away from you. I would never take away someones truth. You on the other hand are throwing it at people. It was a simple question. You are fighting for attention.
Is what I have stated in WORD? Then why say "It's MY truth?" The WORD of GOD doesn't change for u r I! If you KNEW SCRIPTURE, u would KNOW WORD is TRUTH v what RELIGION or society has "taught!"
ANYONE that denies HIS WORD is "ACCURSED" (Gal 1:6-9)!
why are you still fighting back. Your truth, the word... whatever you want to call it. You are still throwing it at us. According to many other religions, you are going to hell, because you do not believe in them. Though shalt not judge. So stop.
See how "ignorant" u r to WORD?
Who cares what other religions blv? MY GOD said "Thou shall have no other gods before me!"
Not "judge?" "Ignorant" & Barine agrees w/u? WOW!
"For the LORD loveth judgment, & forsaketh not his saints;.."(Ps37
Who cares what other religions blv? God would never say something like that. You judge everyone on this page, judgement is reserved for god alone. You are by far the most mean hearted person I have ever meet. No wonder you don't have a profile pic.
We as christians practice the religion of christianity. But thank you Jravity, and Norine. Having two different ideas or opinions about something is not wrong, it's what makes us unique. If only we wouldn't argue about it so much.
Ok barine, I can see this is making you uncomfortable. So I will not be commenting anymore, and I will unfollow so I don't see norines next comment. Sorry for making this uncomfortable. You seem very nice.
Jravity you don't have to leave. I do appreciate you taking the time and effort to comment. I was just trying to make peace. These things happen.
Why r u begging for him not to depart? Would Jesus?
His knowledge of WORD is "limited" & he refuses to "hear" TRUTH especially re: judging!
I gave WORD & he still refuses to blv!
He does not have an "ear" to "hear!"
Yet Norine, u r blinded by yr fanaticism that Any1 can b religious, they don't have 2 b Christian. The word u speak of is only the 1 that works for u, for others it may be the Koran, the Bhadava Gita, the Torah. No1 is asking u 2 change yr bk.
Jac: What u fail to realize is GOD'S interpretation of Religion v the world's is diff! U give the world's=IRRELEVANT!
Other gods? Exd 20:3 "No other before HIM!"
Can't "chg my bk!" IT IS WRITTEN!
Not asking you to change yr book - was merely saying you are blinded to the fact that yr God is not everyone - no one is asking u 2 change. Being religious doesnt mean being Christian, it means having religion - whichever that is. Yrs is ONLY yrs
Jac: We're on diff pgs! Don't u understand I BELIEVE n the ONLY TRUE & LIVING GOD while others choose to blv what they want?
BUT they will suffer "eternal damnation" ACCORDING TO WORD!
GOD'S def of Religion v Christianity diff fm world's!
yet, they believe as you do that theirs is the one true God. Would you appreciate them trying to save you in the way you are trying to save others? no? then why not try a softer approach? you are turning people away from God with yr current one
Jac: If u have a child, do u thk they "appreciate" u disciplining them @ the x? Does it not hurt @ the x?
Oh, but w/x they will "appreciate" the disciplining (LOVE) u displayed & reap reward(s).
SO IT IS WITH GOD!
so u are now encouraging physically disciplining a child? Hmmm. Also, we are not YR child, we are Gods if there is one. It is NOT yr position to discipline as you call it, but his. So again, u are putting yrself as God - is that not what Lucifer did?
Well said. Because some don't want to speak to religious people, people who believe in god don't want to be seen as religious. They miss the point. We don't want to speak to people who bleieve in God.
UNBELIEVERS r not gods; but BELIEVERS ARE (Ps 82:6)! I don’t blv in a god but in the ONLY TRUE & LIVING GOD (JESUS)! Y’all have missed the pt! Christianity is not a religion as defined by GOD! Religion in Scripture is defined as “WORKS” (Jm 1:27
Norine you recently posted that you get rewarded for making these posts. Where did you read that?
I Sam 26: 23; Prov 13:21; Ps 58:11; Col 3:23-24; RRm 2:6; I Cor 15:58; Gal 6:9; Prov 3:3-4; Matt 25:21; Prov 18:16; Jm 1:2; I Cor 2:9 Deut 5:33; Prov 22:4; Lk 6:38; Deut 4:29; Heb 11:6; Matt 7:7; Prov 11:18; Phil 3:14; I Pet 5:16; Matt 6:6; Lk 12:32;
Strange Norine -- not one of those mentions posting on the internet. And not one mentioned calling people Satan, or a Demon. You must have another that is literal and tells all of us to pay attention to you because you should be posting hate speech.
Eric: What is WORD'S def for SATAN (Jn 8:44)! Do I post WORD (Righteousness)? Did those Scriptures not say we'd be rewarded for "righteousness" which is WORD? Why would SATAN (a demon) enter u to "twist" otherwise? If u see WORD as "hate," who r u?
Norine, you call people demons and satan. I do not find any scripture to validate that action. God did not make you judge of man by use of the word. You are not in any way fulfilling the last and greatest commandment given by Christ himself.
Eric: YOU are "IGNORANT" (I Thess 4) of HIS WORD!
JUDGE? GOD LOVES ONE TO JUDGE w/HIS WORD! (Ps 37:38; Is 59:8;61:8;Amos5:14-15; ICor1:10;2:15;6:1-5; Rm16:17-18, II Cor 6:17;II Tim 3:5-6; I Jn 4:1;Rev 2:2; Jn 7:24; I Kg 3:9.
Wish u KNEW WORD!
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Being a Christian is not keeping the ten commandments (Gal 3:24=Child in Christ)!
Christian=Christ Follower or living under New Covenant AFTER Acts 1 (Day of Pentecost)!
Closer than most! Religion (as defined by Webster or the world) conflicts with GOD'S def of religion is the point! Who would we rather believe man or GOD?
Yes, "Being a Christian (JESUS never used for it was derrog term by unblvrs) is abiding..."
Clive Williams says
WORD (GOD) has given definition of "religion" but MOST continue to give "man's" definition. Who would u rather please "man" or GOD? (Acts 5:29)
A "Christian" only follows "The Gospel of Christ" (Gal 1:6-9;"the teachings of Christ!") or "ACCURSED!"
Mark Peter says
The Scribes & Pharisees were devoutly RELIGIOUS who made "own interpretation" and followed "law" (Matt 23:23) as world does today vs what IS WRITTEN!
We CURRENTLY live under NC "OBSERVING disciples" (Matt 28:20); Eph 2:20=RT "foundation" I Cor 1
"WORKS," ie love thy neighbor (treat as u want to be treated), visit the fatherless & widows.." (Jm 1:27), is GOD'S def of Religion, but WHO CARES!
Whereas, "Christianity" is a Christ-Follower or Disciple of Christ!
Hi again. ;) I only sense you are very much into pointing out how the rest of us define religion and Christianity, that most, if not all, do not define each according to what the Bible says it is, even how God defines it, so I'll stop from here
VERY WISE CHOICE FOR WHEN 1 SPEAKS RE: "GOD," ONLY "HIS WORD" APPLIES!
"MAN'S" DEF ("US") DOESN'T MOUNT TO A HEEL OF BEANS ONLY WHAT "IS WRITTEN" IN HIS WORD (NUM 23:19)!
WHY "MAN'S" BELIEF SO "TWISTED!" THEY'VE "INTERPRETED" & NEG "WRITTEN WO
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Tess: Either u blv in GOD or not! His def is not "Check the dictionary!"
GOD told us NOT to "Lean to OUR OWN (man's) understanding" (Prov 3:5)!
BUT WHO CARES what GOD says (Jm 1:27=WORKS), "Man" has spoken!
The bible is written by primitive men, not God. Quote it all you like. I'll quote Thor and Zeus to you in return. Then we can both live in delusion. However, that is besides the point. The point is that Christianity is a religion.
As the world defines, yes, Christianity is a religion. THE POINT IS: Christianity is not a religion as GOD defines. Jm 1:27=defines religion in Bible which is WORKS!
Who'd I'd rather pls or blv "Man" r "GOD?" Need I answer?
Wow! Chapter and verse? Not that I think the bible is anything but a document written by primitives, but as I happen to know the bible backwards, frontwards, sideways, and upside down (I spent a decade studying it), I know there isn't a verse on that
Tess: U didn't "study" enough! 2 Pet 1:3;"Everything pertaining to life & "godliness" is in WORD!
Where did u "study?" I didn't! Holy Spirit "leads & guides" me (Jn 16:13;14:26)!
Get on board!
Norine - make up your mind - in one comment to my answer you say that too much education makes one 'lean to their own understanding' - now you accuse someone who has studied the bible in depth of not enough study? Or just not enuff of yr interpretn
Interesting point 'People who do not want to be labeled 'religious' try to pretend that they are different because they have a 'real' relationship with God and that spirituality is not the same thing as religion.'So many people fall into this categor
Jac: U study “man” not WORD! NEVER enough study of WORD! Others LIE!
Barine: U confuse “man’s” def of religion w/GOD’S=PROBLEM blving “man” rather than GOD! Now u can talk about a “real” …” w/GOD, but until u rather pls GOD, where r u? I Cor 10:21!
Yet, Tessa has studied the Bible in depth for over a decade - yet, because her conclusion is not the same as yours she hasn't studied enough? Maybe it is you who hasn't studied enough? (I'm talking Bible, not "man" study...tho that fits too)
RELIGION has mislead! All books (Bible 2) r in "chronological order!" Sequence of events=MOST IMPORTANT! Do MOST follow?
If not CURRENTLY living under NEW COVENANT OBSERVING Apostles, doctrine is in err (Gal 1:6-9)!
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Lisa VanVorst says
What does GOD SAY re: "religion?"
ONLY "positive" WORD re: "religion" in James 1:26-27 which is "WORKS!"
BUT WHO CARES, "man" has spoken!
R. Eliot Cathey says
Why doesn't ANYONE CARE WHAT GOD SAYS re: RELIGION? I keep seeing "man's" interpretation, definition, perception, etc, but NO ONE goes to WORD (GOD)! Don't u see the problem? NO ONE CARES WHAT GOD SAYS! Jm 1:27)
The Bible specifically speaks of the differences of False and True Religion.
The rest of my answer is regarding personal experience and conclusions regarding the practical realities.
Where do u see the word "religion" in Bible? It is mentioned 7x's, 6 in NEGATIVE contexts! Jm 1:26-27 defines "religion" as GOD defs!
BUT WHO CARES WHAT "GOD SAYS," "man" has spoken!
NW i guess you should atleast try to open up your eyes to what the other person is trying to say. As i see all your replies to everyone on the forum have been critisizing even if they are undeserving of your unilluminated thoughts.
Dear heart, I REPEAT HIS WORD which I BLV! If anyone goes against what HE has WRITTEN, I find it to be a LIE & (as u can see), don't mind telling them whether HIS WORD offends or not!
A life w/o courage & conviction is a life w/o NOTHING!
Oh kindly do not lecture me on courage. After 4 years of being bullied, 8 years of repeated bouts with two dreaded diseases, torments in personal as well as financial life I have earned the right to know courage PERSONALLY AND i STILL AM A BELIEVER
Make "SURE" you're BELIEVING in the ONLY true & LIVING GOD whose name is JESUS (Phil 2:9-11)!
ARE YOU FORCING ME TO DO THAT?
I "plant the seed,..GOD gives increase" (I Cor 3:6)!
Just doing my job (Matthew 28:19 "...teach ALL nations...")!
Oh! then go plant your uncorrected seeds elsewhere.
Back to my original statement: "NO ONE CARES WHAT GOD SAYS!"
I've done my job!
Because you are forcing your ignorant opinions in God's name
GO: "MAYBE" if you would STUDY (II Tim 2:15) HIS WORD, instead of remaining in your "cultural" or "traditional" teachings (Mk 7:13), you would "see" HIS WORD is not "my opinion" but (TRUTH)!
Staying in traditional teachings? That is what you are doing and if you keep on critisizing every otber religion in the world you might run into trouble someday.you talk about spirituality? Who introduced yoga and meditation? HINDUISM DID.
U STUDY TOO MUCH INSTEAD OF HAVING "FAITH!"
PROVIDE THE BOOK OR ALL YOU'VE SAID IS IN VAIN!
oh so now studying is wrong too. what a dark hell-hole you must be living in
IF U WISH TO STUDY, STUDY BIBLE! LET ME GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO STUDY. CONTACT PERRY STONE FOR "END TIME" PROPHECIES WHICH R "IN BIBLE!" SEE HOW U WILL FIND THE ANTICHRIST INVOLVED IN PEACE AGRMENT BTWN ISRAEL & PALESTINE! STUDY PROPHECIES "IN BIB
Why shouldn't I read Geeta? Almost 1.5 billion people follow the divine teachings of Geeta.
"AFTER" CONTACTING PERRY STONE MINISTRIES, U WILL DISCOVER "NO ONE" (GEETA) OR NOTHING COULD HAVE PREDICTED PROPHECIES MILLION OF YRS AGO BUT THE ONE & ONLY TRUE & LIVING GOD, MY GOD, THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC & JACOB!
HE IS "I AM"-"THE
millions of years ago? You IGNORAMUS! THE Bible U FOLLOW came only 2000 yrs ago. before that it was all as you put it yourself, Word of MAN
U IGNORAMUS! MY GOD "CREATED ALL!" HE IS THE GREAT "I AM," "JEHOVAH," "THE ALMIGHTY!" EITHER ONE "BELIEVES" HE CREATED "ALL" OR BELIEVE MAN! IT'S UP TO YOU! BUT SHOW ANOTHER BOOK W/AS MANY "ACCURATE FULFILLED PROPHECIES," + BEING FULFILLED TODAY!
Go on making fool of yourself. I refuse to be a part of this anymore. There ought to be a law against IGNORAMUSES like you. go on tooting your foolish ignorant unilluminated opinions in the meantime the other 4199 religions will keep on flourishing.
"GO" & CONTINUE "FLOURISHING" ALL THE WAY TO HELL FOR THERE ARE "NOT" "MANY HIGHWAYS" THAT LEAD TO "THE ALMIGHTY" ONLY ONE & THAT IS THROUGH WHAT "IS WRITTEN" IN HIS WORD!
SINCE U LOVE TO STUDY-STUDY PROPHECIES FOR "PROOF" OF THE GRT "I A
oh so now you say that the Hindus are doomed and Christians aren't?
"MOST" "CHRISTIANS" ARE DOOMED AS WELL! HAVE U NOT SEEN THE DISAGREEMENTS W/WORD I'VE GIVEN ON HP? MOST "CHRISTIANS" DO NOT KNOW "THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST" UNDER NEW COVENANT & DO NOT WISH TO HEAR! THEY'VE BEEN "TAUGHT" BY NICEAN COUNCIL & BELIEV
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Still "Leaning to man's understanding?" How shallow! Comparing "Spiritual" thgs to "Carnal" will continue to hinder your understanding! Christianity is a SPIRITUAL journey (Jn 4:24)! W/O, 1 has NO UNDERSTANDING!
From what bridge did you crawl out from under? Do you have to troll everyone's comments in this place? Do you have to put in your two cents worth on every single thing written here? Are you really that important?
Not important at all! But GOD'S WORD is!
Do u have to respond to every "two cents worth" I say?
What is wrong with you? This is my posted comment! Of course I am going to respond. Hopefully, someone will put a stop to this endless trolling of yours.
Tap: You are the devil's advocate! You fulfill WORD (Jn 10:10)! His job is to stop TRUTH but whosoever does, "GOD WILL CURSE YOU"(Gen 12:3)!
Fortunately, your God has not cursed me as of this time. In fact, quite the opposite and in ways you most likely could never comprehend because you've abdicated something deep inside yourself. Now please stop trolling.
Yes, fortunate (so far)!
U have not the "Spirit" of GOD, "so you will NEVER comprehend."
If I "troll," u're rt behind me, so what r u? SATAN (Job 1:7)?
1.) I do no tangent on every single blasted comment on this forum, that's your job. 2.) you are too fractured to continue acknowledging even in facetious banter. 3.) I give you the final say. I'm generous that way. Fenyw gwall you are or what?!
1.)You can’t prove that by me. 2.) “Fractured” people are “unspiritual & facetiousness=I ignore “ignorance.” 3.) GOD (WORD) has final say. Fenyw gwall you are (whatever that is)!
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"Christian" means following "The Gospel of Christ" (Gal 1:6-9)! Who does that?
"Religion" a "man-made" belief system in a god!
SAMIR NAHAKA says
Can't you all "understand" GOD'S def of "religion" is not as the "world's" (Jm 1:27)?
Exd 20:3 "No other god!"
"U have to be religious?" Who told u that? Not Jm 1:27 (GOD)!
BUT WHO CARES?
"MAN" has spoken!
while JESUS was alive people were taking shelter of scriptures; now after him, again the same.................
Sam: "when JESUS "was" alive..?" Who told u HE is dead?
"Taking shelter of Scripture" is "UNGODLY!"
Jn 14:23 "..If a man love me, he will keep my words: & my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, & make our abode with him."
Now you're there! that He is not dead, to find out this..........this very realization is to be religious.....who's speaking out of within you to find out is the way of being religious. And for me words of Bible is not scripture, they're blood of God
Sam: U cont to state "world's def" of religion v "GOD'S def" (Jm 1:27)!
If u cont considering "world's def," v GOD'S, we will cont to disagree!
WORD (GOD) is TRUTH, man is a LIE (Num 23:19)!
U can say bcuz I BLV=religion, but not what GOD said!
There is nothing like agree or disagreement; one must follow Jesus as those twelve disciples of Jesus were following at the time of Jesus(sir, now I'm not saying-'when Jesus was alive',ok?) to be religious!
Sam: Why don't "YOU CARE" what GOD'S def of religion is? Did not Scripture tell us NOT to "Lean to OUR OWN (man's) understanding" (Prov 3:5)? Why do you? Is man's def more important than GOD'S (Acts 5:29)?
JOHN1:3-"not one thing in all creation was made without Him"
Sam: Has NOTHING to do w/BELIEVING WHAT "IS WRITTEN!" Why don't you care what HIS def of religion is (Jm 1:27)? HE wrote it (II Tim 3:16)! GOD HATES RELIGION (Matt 23:23)!
You're Very right with-GOD HATES RELIGION (Matt 23:23)! NW, U said- Has NOTHING to do w/BELIEVING WHAT "IS WRITTEN! then why U Blv-HIS def of religion is (Jm 1:27)? HE wrote it (II Tim 3:16)! GOD HATES RELIGION (Matt 23:23)! these R also written!
WORD disagrees w/ur belief "Christianity is RELIGION!" Not WORD'S def which is Jm 1:27!
If u blv n err II Tim 3:16 I "correct" w/WORD!
Dear! I'm caring but you seem to bring division! I'm seeking the substance; you're stuck to Christianity. Be a bee! thanks.
Is there any other way? Exd 20:3!
I Cor 10:21 "You cannot eat at the Lord's & at the table of demons too..."
So, if u don't serve the LORD that leaves u at the table of "DEMONS!"
No in between!
Find way in God's word; I'm not..................
THANKS and bye!
HE'S always "waiting!"
TRUE ALSO FOR MUSLIMS
Norine! to be religious U've to B born again! understand? JOHN-3:3. not to be Christians, Hindu etc. etc. And the world cannot corrupt a religious person;then why are U giving people def of Jm 1:27. It seems U've no idea of becoming religious!
Sam: NO! To be a "disciple" of CHRIST, U must be born again.
"Man's" def of "religion" is a belief in a diety, but GOD def is in Jm 1:26-27!
Others "IDOLS," false doctrine(s)/prophet(s)!
I Cor 10:21 says "U can't eat @ the Lord's Table & @ demo
Perhaps,D Holy Spirit didn't rveal 2 U dat CHRIST is nt only JESUS; CHRIST is KRISHNA as well as MUHAMMAD; CHRIST is BUDDHA, CHRIST is D seed! and being born again wil make U do Jm1:27, nt b4; n Norn! plz contrl ur tng(Jm1:26) while U say no2 Jn3:3!
Jm 1:26 would apply IF I was "religious!" Hold ur tongue "religious person" as I am a "BOLD" disciple of Christ & NOT "religious!"
IF u were Jn 3:3 U would KNOW this!
SAMIR:Actaually NW has no sense of any othr religion in the world,has read no other scripture and is fond of bringing forth unilluminated and hypocritical ideology.I have repeted, tht thr r other scriptures likeGeeta that are 3000yrs older than bible
IF MY GOD CREATED ALL (which is my BELIEF), how could there be any other god?
Man can append a timeframe to anything he likes but MY BELIEF is the GOD of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob CREATED ALL!
The God of Abraham Isaac Jacob is a form of the same infinite creative intelligence that any other God is. It is so foolish and arrogant of some people to believe that their God is different than other people's God. There is room for just 1 God.
“..any other god?” MY GOD created “ALL” including your “idol god;” otherwise, you would be able to “Provide another book w/as MANY ACCURATE FULFILLED PROPHECIES!” Unless u can do that, YOU ARE A LIAR!
I must agree, “There is rm for just 1 GOD!”
Yeah me and all the other 5,999,999,999 people on the planet are wrong.You seem to be the only right one.But that is what you think.No one else hasCorroboratedYour wishful thinkingAs I canSee.I have answrd your qustn many times & hv named 5Such b
IF I'M "ONLY ONE," WHY IS THERE SOMETHING CALLED "CHRISTIANITY" ALTHOUGH DOCTRINE IS "TWISTED?"
PROVIDE BOOK ARE U ARE A LIAR!
GEETA, YAJURVEDA, SAMVEDA, ATHARVAVEDA, RIGVEDA why do I Hv to name'em againNagain &millions of ChristiansWhoFollowTheSameGod as U also follow Yoga originating from Patanjali Rishi's Yogsutras-A HinduScripture-What will U call those Christians?
WATCH FOR THIS: THE ANTICHRIST WILL BE A PART OF THE SIGNING OF PEACE AGRMNT BTWN ISRAEL & PALESTINE"
PROPHECIES AREN'T BY MAN *PROPHET MUHAMMAD BUT THE "ONLY TRUE & LIVING GOD" AS STATED IN BIBLE!!
*NOT AS MANY ACCURATE PROPHECIES AS BIBL
millions of ChristiansWhoFollowTheSameGod as U also follow Yoga originating from Patanjali Rishi's Yogsutras-A HinduScripture-What will U call those Christians?
"Twisted Believers" testing the spirits trying to find THE ONLY TRUE & LIVING GOD but won't submit themselves to the WORD of GOD is what I call them as you are in your belief! I agree there is but ONE GOD, but there r not MANY HIGHWAYS to get to
Wow thanks for that reply. I know an intenational Journal publisher I must publish this reply of yours and your opinions on fellow Christians.
THANKS! HELP ME "TEACH ALL NATIONS" (MATT 28:19) FOR IT HAS BEEN "PROPHESIED"
"..THIS GOSPEL WILL BE PREACHED IN ALL THE WORLD BEFORE THE END" (MATT 24:14)!
U keep on tooting about the Prophecies.Did your Bible prophecize about the 300 year long witch hunt that killed 100000 people by brutally burning them at stake?If yes why so many cruel killings weren't avoided?
I'VE NOT STUDIED!
AGAIN, MY "CALLING" IS TO UNTWIST TWISTED DOCTRINE!
I DO KNOW WORD SAYS "ALL THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR "THE GOOD" OF THEM THAT LOVE THE LORD" (RM 8:28)! MAY NOT "LOOK GOOD" TO MAN!
MINE IS NOT TO QUESTION WHY, MINE IS TO DO R DIE!
So if you've not studied, you are merely spouting words from a Book. That Book just happens to be the Bible, but if you don't study the history of the Christian faith, the Bible etc - all you are doing is parroting. Which means u are false.
JL: Who cares about "studying a "WITCH HUNT?" YOU STUDY if that's what important to YOU but not to GOD! HIS WORDS are ALL that is TRUE!
As I've told him, u have an "opinion" ONLY as u have a behind & it doesn't matter if NOT in HIS WORD!
Norine are you for real? who cares abt a witch hunt?? really? is that your "KNOWLEDGEABLE" reply?100,000 families destroyed bearing the scars of 300 years long unnecessary ordeal and you say who cares?No doubt U R being thrashed on every platform!
Nor yr ignorance of the history of yr faith is disturbing. If you don't study history of your faith, then u r blindly following yr own interpretation. Not God's. Yr faith has extensive history - pos + neg. Wld tk u seriously if u actually knw yr relg
That is so right Jaqui...
Ps 119:63! R u BOTH "IGNORANT?" GOD doesn't care about flesh (Rm 8:8)! Will u continue (Prov 3:5)?
WHO CAN WITHSTAND THE HAND OF GOD (Is 14:27)? Do YOU really thk u can BEAT THE "SPIRIT" of GOD w/ur "understanding" (knowledge)?
R u "A FOOL?"
Wow,What an unilluminated reply.U R implying that God is Indifferent towards people(flesh) inflicting unnecessary pain to other people(Flesh)?bY SAYING THAT u HAVE COMPLETELY UNDERMINED THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS CHRIST AND U say U R a true CHRISTIAN?
GOD doesn’t care about 1’s flesh (Rm 8:8)! Didn’t HE say “IT IS FINISHED” (in the flesh; Jn 19:30)?
There’s a NEW COVENANT now which is “ALL SPIRITUAL” (Jn 14:26; 16:13; Acts 2:2)!
R U a “true CHRISTIAN?” From ur responses “NO” (UNBELIEVER)!
So you ignore the violence of Ye faiths history? Ignorance is unChrist like. Particularly when the violence in yr faiths history includes condoning the keeping of yr ancestors as slaves, as less than human. I don't condone it, it's evil. Know yr hist
YOU r an IGNORAMUS when it comes to GOD! I wouldn't speak on HIM (lies) when YOU don't KNOW what HE'S said in HIS WORD if I were you! What HE HAS SAID is ALL that's important & if you KNEW, YOU wouldn't speak IGNORANCE (Gal 3:28)!
Name calling now? I've read the Bible. It condones violence often, including slavery. It's history + that of yr faith is violent - denying it means u do not knw yr faith. I speak no lies. Am only pointing out the history of yr faith.
Norine is that all U can do?First U call 5000yr old Geeta a copy of 2000 yr old Bible.Then Instead of getting Ur history right U start call all other 4199 religions on this planet a sham?then eventually U resort to name calling?whatsUR DEAL?
J:GOD called u “A FOOL” (Gal 3:1) when u don’t KNOW HIS WORD! OLD COV GONE. NEW COV (Gal 3:28) eff! READ IT!
G:IF“MY GOD”said“HE CREATED ALL," who’s lying about “dates?” Yes, a “sham!” Not me “name calling,” but GOD (WORD)! MY "DEAL" IS “MY GOD!"
If u don't know yr history u r doomed 2 repeat it. I once respected knowledge u had of yr Bible. No longer, as being wilfully ignorant of the history of yr faith, means all yr are is words, and no works - not the type of person I'd want to learn frm
That's YOUR PROBLEM! U DON'T "LEARN FROM ME" BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT! i GIVE "HIS WORD" & U "LEARN FROM "HIM" (HOLY SPIRIT) & WHAT HE'S SAID! EITHER U BELIEVE HIS WORD OR NOT! IF U BLV W/"PURE HEART," & HAVE "FAITH" HE MANIFESTS HIMSELF UN
evrybdys' attntion plz, Nw is d 'BOLD' discpl of Christ as he says; "can U sir inform us anythng spcel of d kngdom of God frm yor own expernce !" U must can I bliv! as U r a BOLD discpl of Christ! d door of d kngdm must bn opnd to U! as being BOLD...
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Me: Do you all not "hear" what GOD said?
Exd 20:3 "No other god?"
Society has created (as the Trinity) "the terms used.." to define religion, but not GOD!
Religion (as def by GOD)=Jm 1:27!
But Who Cares?
"MAN" has spoken!
Norine Williams, i guess all you have read is bible. First of all you must get your knowledge right. You have been too agressive to the point of fanaticism over your ideas. Do you even know that the 'Geeta' is 3000 years older than the Bible?
Who says? "MAN?" Get real! Have u not been lied to enough! Either u blv GOD or "man!" I BLV GOD! U cont reading ur books while I enjoy the "benefits" fm believing in the ONE & ONLY TRUE & LIVING GOD!
If you, without even knowing the history of a certain scripture can say that you dont believe Geeta as it is mere mortal man's work, people following the other 4199 religions can say the same for Bible. I request you again to get you history right.
I, "request you again," to provide a book with as many ACCURATE FULFILLED PROPHECIES as the Bible, then we'll have something to talk about!
Why dont you start by reading Geeta, The Atharvaveda, The Samveda, The Yajurveda, The Rigveda, Oh and BTW i asked you a question you never answered, Bible does not allow you to believe in reincarnation,then how do you explain the case of Ma Htwe Win
U still don't get it do you? It is IRRELEVANT what "man" has written!
My FAITH is in HIS WORD regardless of what "man" (intelligence, proof in lab, books, etc) says!
Interesting comment NW. It would mean to disregard everything you say. You are but of man. And what you write we should disregard. Amen
And you still don't get it through you unilluminated self. Bible was also written and brought to word by 'man.' And stop using the words MY GOD. you are just a mere mortal trying to force your uncorrected thought and living in a dark corner.
Eric: Right! But don’t continue to disregard HIS WORD “I repeat” r LOST!
GO: If GOD’S WORD is “unilluminated,” you r LOST!
Did u read 2 Tim 3:16?
Yes, “mere mortal,” inspired by GOD’S WORD. If ur god is not GOD of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob=”idol!
Than you for your intervention ERIC, I appreciate it. NW Stop acting as if you are the only religious person on this forum. Stop forcing YOUR unilluminated. Hypocritical, uncorrected opinions on others.
GO: If u see GOD'S WORD as "unilluminated. Hypocritical, uncorrected opinions," you are LOST (I Cor 2:14)!
I've done my job!
You have been the biggest nonbeliever of man's word till now &have promoted u just believe God's word.where in Bible have the mentioned the Laws of mechanics, Gravitation,Quantum mechanics,wave theory but u reap their benefits everyday.
See how IGNORANT u r? U mix "Spiritual" thgs w/"Carnal!" GOD is SPIRIT & they that worship HIM MUST worship HIM in SPIRIT & in TRUTH" (Jn 4:24)!
This is a "SPIRITUAL" JOURNEY w/GOD, NOT "PHYSICAL" OR "CARNAL!"
HOWEVER, "EVERYTHING.." (2 PET 1
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Benalla Abdellah says
THE TRUE & LIVING GOD has disciples (Christ Followers or Christians)~! Being Christians does not define "religion!" GOD hates RELIGION! Hypocrites! The ONLY def GOD gives for religion is found in Jm 1:27!
I am a Christian and that is why I specifically asked about the difference between Christianity and being religious. Am just trying to see how people perceive us and how we perceive ourselves.
Barine: U "REFUSE" to accept GOD'S def of "religion," & until then u talk in nonsense!
IF "Christian" u would ACCEPT! "Christians" (Disciples of Christ") follow CHRIST/"HIS WORD," not "man's" def!
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Colesha Jackson says
U HAVE THE 1ST PART RIGHT - FOR CONDEMNATION!
"CHRISTIANS" (INITIALLY USED AS A DEROGATORY TERM) R "FOLLOWERS" OF CHRIST OR DISCIPLES OF CHRIST (ACTS 2:42)!
Norine Williams says
Eric: Thanks for allowing me to tell TRUTH w/o deleting which shows MORE JESUS than MOST!
I continue to pray that the "eyes of your heart be enlightened" (Eph 1:18)!
not only Jm 1:27! &II Tim 3:16 but also-Matt:25:31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39&40 also. Got it !
Well, since you don't believe, you are already on the "LEFT!"
'James 1:26 Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless.' - so if u consider u r religious in the Jm1:27 definition (Gods) - y r u not reining tongue?
Because I'm not RELIGIOUS by GOD'S definition!
I'm a "BOLD" disciple of Christ!
So, you merely speak of God, you don't do the works he asks of you - to help widows and orphans, your fellow man, keep yourself unstained? You are merely of faith by word, not works? Well, that explains a lot. Christ was about works, not words.
Jac: When 1 has been "BORN AGAIN," loving neighbor as self is a "by-product" & 1 longs to help another!
Why do u thk I'm trying to eliminate "IGNORANCE" on HubPages re: religion?
Yet, you aren't doing the works - You seem to be merely words. The way you use the word is turning people away from Christ, not to him. I would love to learn from u, BUT u seem to be of words, not works. Thats sad, if true bcus Christ was works.
Jac: If GOD'S WORDS "turn ppl fm Christ," It's not Norine! ALL i use are HIS WORDS! It "cuts," I understand (Heb 4:12)! TRUTH always does but TRUTH is LOVE!
Eph 2:9 "..not by WORKS, least any man should BOAST." Christ is not WORKS!
Yet, Norine, as a gay atheist- I help my fellow man - EVERY day. I just don't talk abt it. R u all words? Where r yr works? Repeating words with no works to back them is merely shallow-ness - "looking good" with no work. Remember Jm 1:26? Rein tongue
"Reign tongue" AGAINST Christ (IICor3:12;Acts4:13;28;29;31;Prov28:1).
I KNOW there r "good" Gay Atheist & other unbelievers but unless they do in Spirit (Jn 4:24) just morally rt; not Christ! BORN AGAIN "works" r "by-product" of HS action (Acts 1
James 1:26 tells you yr religion is worthless if you don't reign tongue. You keep going on about James 1:27, but remove it from the context of the rest of it. Or is the Bible contradicting itself? (Hard to follow ALL of word as u say u do, if true)
Jac:"Reign tongue" re:"WORKS!" Don't brag ("vain;" Jm 1:26) what u've done for fatherless, poor,etc.
Jm 1:27 is RELIGION as defined by GOD (WORD)!
Why do u keep defying WORD?
Why do u appear to want & make WORD a LIE?
IT IS WRITTEN & won'
Nope, Nor. Jm 1:26 speaks of reigning tongues BEFORE it speaks of works - it is in relation to spouting yr religion, not bragging abt works.
I'm not trying to make the word a lie - I'm trying to point out yr hypocrisy in using words, not works.
Jm 1:26 AGAIN speaks of “religion” in neg context! V27 tells 1 what “religion” is = “works!” There’s NOTHING “Spiritual” about “religion!” NC which we NOW live under is ALL “Spiritual!” HOLY SPIRIT “now” WORKS (Jn 14:26;16:13)!
Eph 2:9; Rm 8:8!
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I was agreeing until the "wine!" Rm 14:21! Do u thk it's to be given for "Holy Passover?"
NW if you are so blind that you cannot appreciate the qualities of any other religion then answer this, Bible does not let you believe in reincarnation but Geeta does. how will you explain the proven case of Ma Htwe Win. Rise from your limited mind.
See how u've "leaned to your own (man's) understanding" (Prov 3:5) which is against WORD! I don't respond unless WORD! Who would ever blv GOD is less than Geeta r anyone/thing else? SICK! Aren't u tired of being LIED to?
Oh!so now you want to say that Geeta is a bundle of lies & you expect people to respect your thoughts after what you have just written?If it is just a bundle of lies then why do approx 7.48 million tourist visit India to study Geeta,explore Hindu
GO: U don't understand! MY GOD "CREATED" ALL! NOTHING can WAIVER my belief no matter what "man" says! I have "proof" HE'S REAL! So whatever u say is irrelevant! I'm not here for"respect" but TRUTH of "PROOF" HE is "Supernaturally Miraculous!"
Yes God is capable of miracles but unlike u i would not like to restict my description of the higher power u know as "your God" He is not a personal property and yes u cant get respect through your willful unlearning personality.
Apparently MY GOD is not your god. MY GOD is the GOD of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob so can’t be “personal property!”
When not in SPIRIT, you are the “willful unlearned personality" w/no respect fm MY GOD (Rm 8:8)!
My God is not your God?Do you even think once before you write?He is not mine or yours NW.We ade mere mortals.Our Spirits r but a quantum of the divine pool of infinite creative intelligence.At this point i must enquire,have u evr read any other book
Insulting intelligence, r we? What a "man!" Comparing "carnal" (intelligence) to "Spiritual" (GOD), r we? Again, what a "man!"
If ur god is not the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob, not MY GOD!
I have no interest in insulting you. You are doing a fine job yourself. I have read what other people have to say to your hypocritical opinions
When one compares "carnal" things to "Spiritual," he "insults self!" If one doesn't believe in the GOD of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob, he is worshiping an idol! There r spirits but ONLY ONE "SPIRIT!" Be careful!
Again, where's bk?
Again you have no knowledge about any other culture in the world, Dont try to drive this discussion awry just to promote your shallow ideals. God promotes righteousness and a righteous person=religious person, period
Why do continue to avoid Q "Where is book?"
Culture doesn't matter (Gal 3:28)! If ur god is not the GOD of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob, then "idol!"
If "IN CHRIST," HE "leads & guides" into "righteousness" (Jn 14:26;16:13)! No "WORK" on my part!
READ BEFORE you reply. Didnt 'YOUR GOD' tell you that? I have already named 5 books that “man” wrote via “inspiration of GOD” and you still keep ranting about "BOOK"
Repeat them! Apparently they weren't from Bible so tell me again!
Is it a book with as *MANY ACCURATE FULFILLED PROPHECIES as the Bible? Otherwise, you have not provided *book and have not answered!
Yes and they are the most result oriented books.They are the predicessors of all subjects of knowlege you know till date and no I wont repeat the names. In your arrogance you have made it a habit of ignoring other people's replies
"IN YOUR ARROGANCE," U HAVE MADE A COMPLETE FOOL OF YOURSELF SINCE YOU CANNOT PROV A BOOK W/MORE ACCURATE FULFILLED PROPHECIES AS THE BIBLE WHICH MAKES ALL OTHER "gods" IDOLS FOR WHO COULD HAVE KNOWN THESE YRS N ADV BUT THE "ONLY TRUE & LIVING GO
And thus spoke the biggest fool of them all. Geeta has the most fulfilled prophecies.millions of ChristiansWhoFollowTheSameGod as U also follow Yoga originating from Patanjali Rishi's Yogsutras-A HinduScripture-What will U callThoseChristians
HAS UR GEETA PREDICTED "END TIMES?" HAS HE PROPHESIED "THINGS TO COME IN THIS WORLD?" DID HE PREDICT 9/11? WHAT DOES HE SAY ABOUT ISRAEL IN THE NEXT 7 YRS? IS THIS THE LAST 7 YRS ACCORDING TO HIM? ALL THIS IS IN BIBLE! WHAT SAYS YOUR god?
Yes you IGNORAMUS it has predicted the endtimes at the end of the KALIYUGA which has a span of 426000 years out of which 5000 have elapsed. The 12 prime prophecies of Kaliyuga acc to GEETA have already been fulfilled. IS THERE NOTHING U ACTUALLY KNW?
GET READY FOR A "RUDE AWAKENING" BASED ON UR GEETA! CONTACT PERRY STONE MINISTRIES FOR TRUTH & CONTINUE TO WATCH ISRAEL & PALESTINE CONFLICT FOR "THE ANTICHRIST!" THE SEVEN YR END IS NEAR! BASED ON GEETA, THIS IS NOT TRUE BUT WATCH!
I knew you would say that. Ok, U keep on tooting about the Prophecies.Did your Bible prophecize about the 300 year long witch hunt that killed 100000 people by brutally burning them at stake?If yes why so many cruel killings weren't avoided?
MY GOD DOES NOT "FORCE" ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING! WE ALL HAVE "FREE WILL" TO EITHER CHOSE GOOD OR EVIL (JOSHUA 24:15)!
HOWEVER, IF EVIL, THERE ARE "CONSEQUENCES!"
U STUDY "IN-DEPTH!" STUDY "END TIME PROPHECIES!"
DISCOVER THE GREAT "I AM!"
The wine given as the "Passover wine" is a non distilled, non-alcoholic, home brewed (sort of a pickled grape juice) beverage and should not be confused with any other commercial drink.
Matt 26:28; Lk 22:20; Mk 14:24="SHED!" What was "SHED?" Jn 19:34= "Blood & "WATER!" Therefore, "WATER" is to be taken for The Communion!
Why taken any kind of "wine" "whereby thy brother stumbleth" (Rm 14:21)?
Do u thk Scripture contradicts?
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"The Trinity?" What's that?
Peter, Paul and Mary :(
Is that a personal attack on me, NORINE?
You have a real problem, find some other place to vent.
Was that a personal attack on some's belief?
You initiated the "real problem!"
You "find some other place to vent!"
Bradmaster, NW has been forcing her ignorant unilluminated hypocritocal opinions all over the forum. I GUESS WE WILL ALL have to eventually ignore such unhoned thoughts.
"..her ignorant unilluminated hypocritocal opinions?" "Her opinions" when ALL I do is REPEAT HIS WORD?
IF that's what u think of the WORD of GOD, you are LOST!
Ignore HIS WORD & (again), you are LOST!
I follow the words of God very well as written in Geeta our holy scripture. I keep on updating myself by reading as many holy scriptures of as many religions as possible. I find it insightful and being a full time author it gives me knowledge.
THE ONLY GOD, THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC & JACOB (MY GOD), SAYS "LEAN NOT TO "YOUR OWN" UNDERSTANDING" (PROV 3:5). NOW I SEE WHY U R "TWISTED!" TOO MUCH OF "YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING" VIA STUDYING "MAN!"
Studying Man? IF man had not studied Newton (ANOTHER MAN) there would have been no rocket technology, no satellites hence no satellite TV. Stop watching it if you don't want to study MAN.
WHY DO U KEEP MIXING "SPIRITUAL" W/"CARNAL?" WHAT I AM SAYING IS MAN'S WRITINGS (NOT INSPIRED BY GOD) ARE LIES! ONLY THE TRUE & LIVING GOD'S WORDS ARE TRUE! I'M NOT GOING IN CIRCLES W/U ANYMORE SINCE U CAN'T PROV BOOK, U LIE!
My question is simple but you do not have the answer.Studying Man? IF man had not studied Newton (ANOTHER MAN) there would have been no rocket technology, no satellites hence no satellite TV. Stop watching it if you don't want to study MAN.
BOY I'M TIRED OF U MIXING SPIRITUAL W/CARNAL!!!
I'M TALKING PROPHECIES INSPIRED BY GOD (BIBLE) & YOU'RE TALKING MECHANISM, NUMBERS, TECH, ETC! DUH!
STUDY PROPHECIES TO COME VIA PERRY STONE MINISTRIES IF U WANT 2 B INFORMED W/INFO OTHERS IGNORE
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Religion="Your" Dead Works (Eph 2:8-9)!
Christian="Holy Spirit" (aka JESUS) Works (Jn 14:26;16:13)!
Amen! Gal 1:6-9!
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According to man "Christianity itself is a religion," but NOT to the ONLY TRUE & LIVING GOD!
HIS def is found in Jm 1:27="WORKS!"
Yet, Norine, if you consider yourself religious by the definition in James 1:27, you are a perfect example of those who aren't keeping a tight rein on thei tongue in Jm1:26. Name calling, etc. So, do u follow all or just cherry pick?
Jac: Again, I'm not RELIGIOUS! The world is!
I'm a "BOLD" disciple of Christ!
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I'm glad that my "Owner" is JESUS for that's who I "Parrot" = JESUS~!
You should be so "fortunate!"
O, I forgot! "Your opinion" matters more than THE WORD of GOD, doesn't it?
As reflected in your response!
Some birds chirp to loud. They chirp and fluff up everywhere they can starving for attention. Sometimes putting a mirror in front of them helps. Often, a blanket can work wonders too.
Apparently, not loud enough or u would KNOW by now!
U may think THE WORD needs "a blanket," & u will be able to tell JESUS that when u stand before the judgment seat of Christ (2 Cor 5:10)!
Keep talking, u'll need more than "a blanket!"
To get rid of those hard bird droppings that can land everywhere, such as on your windshield, or elsewhere, just let club soda do all the hard work for you. Pour it straight from the bottle right onto offended area. Wait a few minutes, it wipes off!
P&N: U FINALLY GOT IT!
YOU NEED JESUS (Holy Spirit)!
So, GO BACK & "WAIT" (Acts 1:4)!
Thank you, you have made me smile this morning.
Most parrots repeat what they have been taught until death. The teacher is revealed when the bird speaks.
Rich: I Jn 2:16 "For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the PRIDE of LIFE, is not of the Father, but is of the world."
U & your ego/pride will KILL u!
The TEACHER is WORD not msgr!
The vocal range of the incessant squawker can be quite impressive. "Pollys" react to their own noise in vernacular that is a winded type pidgin. Caged parrots instinctively establish territory, but won't come out when the door is opened.
GUYS: I find you both to be male chauvinistic, ignorant, jealous, twisted minded religious fanatics who show "your TRUE Jesus" (NONE) when TRUTH cuts (Heb 4:12)! I've given WORD which u can't deny so you attack msgr! Very "manly" of both!
Peace be upon you Norine. May blessings be in you.
Eric: Peace & Blessings will be in me for I give TRUTH (WORD)!
Isaiah Chapter 61!
Funny thing is, Nor, I don't find them male chauvinists at all, nor ignorant. And the only religious fanatic here isn't these two guys. Did we read the same comments? How come we came to a different conclusion? Interpretation bias - just like bible
JL: I'm sorry dear, but in order for you to insult met, I must first value your opinion. Nice try though!
Again, seeing insult where there is none, yet happy to insult others. Can you show me where they were being chauvinistic, or even jealous? I see none of it, yet we have read the exact same thing. So, what makes you certain you r interpreting right?
Jacqui you make the perfect point. I try to put on the lenses of love when I read scripture. If the words don't "fit" inside those lenses then I am reading it wrong. That is how I interpret. That is how the Holy Spirit guides me. To each their own
Eric: In agreement w/JL?
Confirms Scripture NEVER LIES! Ps 119:63!
No Norine - scripture never lies. But sometimes someone a little off reads what it says in error.
REMEMBER: They called JESUS "off" (saying HE was equal to GOD) & killed HIM!
There is a DIFFERENCE n "worshiping in Spirit" & Nicene Council's "teachings" which is in "error!"
Either u blv WORD (GOD) or Nicene Council (SATAN)!
NW-always falling down the rabbit hole of circular reasoning in using text to prove itself. Round and round. Disprove or accept. Satan or believer. Reductio ad absurdum. Ho hum.
Tap: Satan's ALWAYS in the midst, huh?
I Cor 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the thgs of the Spirit of GOD, they are FOOLISHNESS unto him: neither can they know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
So, you're not in it!
You've just proven my point. Circling and circling. Round and round. It's impossible for you to make a coherent argument. Impossible.
Tap: I don't have x for SATAN! I'm more concerned for ppl who call themselves *"Christians," yet defy WORD! As for you (SATAN), AGAIN, You've ALREADY been defeated & don't KNOW ANYTHING about the Holy Spirit who *"leads & guides" into ALL tr
LoL, how do we know YOU aren't Satan? Sounds like you are projecting while deflecting. Age old tactic, too. Call others what you are, yourself, and quote like hell fire before anybody notices. How very interesting.
Tap: Haven't u figured me out yet? I don't care WHAT "man" thinks of me! U r an "irrelevant, nothing" who defies GOD or what GOD calls-SATAN! Again, 1 serves either GOD or SATAN & fm ur comments - SATAN!
How very "factual!"
Like I said...Norine. You project unto others. Plain and simple.
Tap: I use WORD! If ANYONE is "projecting unto others," IT IS GOD!
If u have a problem w/that, take it up w/HIM!
Now that's, "Plain & Simple!"
Again, I rest my case.
Tap: I know you do "rest your case" because you (SATAN) were defeated from the beginning!
Sorry, not so, Norine. LoL. Since YOU are Satan.
Tap: By whose "standards?" YOURS?
Now that is a LOL!
No, by YOURS. You call others (ie: Satan) what you are (or fear that you are) yourself. That's basic psychology. You should know that.
Tap: I use WORD; So whose standards? U r IGNORANT (SATAN)!
U continue to "TRY" to equate "Spiritual" things to "Carnal!"
You are as carnal as they come, Norine. All this endless quoting you do is just a manifestation and exercise of your own ego. YOU want the reward, you said so yourself in another thread. It's all about YOU and no one else. YOU. YOU. YOU.
Rewards and /or 'benefits r only a couple of the by-products of 1 having FAITH & BELIEVING in HIS WORD! Try it! You're certainly missing out on a lot remaining "carnal!"
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