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Can A Book That Includes Magic(Bible)Be An Accurate Account Of History?


There are some people who are quite adamant about the belief that the Bible is an accurate account of History. And they really believe that they have the evidence to prove this. I can't help but conclude that, then...their position is that they actually believe in magic. Is this a rational world view for an adult to have? Can magic be corroborated with reality? If so, HOW? If not, then, could someone please tell me how the Bible is an accurate account of History?

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Lawrence Hebb (lawrence01) says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    You should present your findings to Bill Nye. I'm quite sure he will agree.


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Carl Eastvold (RaisedByBears) says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    Carl, as a Christian, I was taught to believe that there was a talking snake in a magic garden. And that someone dead for 3 days resurrected. Someone parted a large body of water. Manna was rained from the sky. Do u not consider these things magic?


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Ronnie wrenchBiscuit (wrenchBiscuit) says

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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 7 months ago

    Ronnie stay as long as you can in your ethereal, non-pragmental space. Love in that space and find more love in that space.


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Joshua Stewart says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    Yes, there are some facts in the bible, but is the Bible an accurate account of History then? Is there an explanation as to how Moses parted the water? How Noah fit all those animals on a boat that was too small? How a spirit impregnated a virgin?


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Judy Specht (tirelesstraveler) says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    Good answer. That's great advice.


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Ralph Schwartz (RJ Schwartz) says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    Yes, then they continue to teach it as FACT.

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smcopywrite says

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    getitrite 7 months ago

    If a book is that twisted, why would u choose to believe that it is the word of God. It cant even be honest about what ACTUALLY happened in the past. I dont think it was embellished, I think it was simply fabricated. No Moses, no captivity, etc....

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Tamara Wilhite (tamarawilhite) says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    Miracles like magic saviors, and virgin births, and walking on water, and parting massive bodies of water, and manna falling from the sky, and resurrections are not subject to interpretation, they are insulting to the intellect.


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Rosualdo Ponce says

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    Kiss andTales 8 months ago

    Tirel why is it you believe that all animals was saved and this is believec by christians. Not true at all. Please read the account again . you will notice. Not a boat , only male and female of certain animals. Boarded the. Vessel. What about fish?


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Team Wiseman says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    Since there is no evidence for the existence of a God, how can there be any such things as miracles? Therefore magic is what the writers of the Bible are merely attributing to this false deity. they made that up. Magic does not even exist in reality.


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John Welford (The Indexer) says

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    Kiss andTales 8 months ago

    I certainly have experienced the opposite, Men were used as secretaries to pen the messges of our creator. Men do this all the time in the busy office world , thougts are written and transmitted through human secretaries. We live out what is written


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LoisRyan13903 says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    So Is it ok for me to conclude that the Bible is an accurate History, with the magic that's written in it? If that magic does not happen in this day and time, how can I believe that this is accurate? If it were accurate, shouldn't there be magic now?


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    getitrite 8 months ago

    Straw Man! This question is not about intelligence,or fundamentalists. This question is about INDOCTRINATION which can override intelligence. U should cease using this argument. I can't defend such silly trickery, without feeling cognitive dissonance


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Cherye norris says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    Faith is no way to come to a sensible conclusion, unless you just don't care about the truth. There is a way to understand this question, and I think it has to do with how adamant one is about honesty.


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Express10 says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    And many of those intentional changes include magic. And since we don't see any magic in this day and time...if we are really honest with ourselves, we can safely assert that these accounts are not factual.


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Zeron87 says

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    Kiss andTales 8 months ago

    Wonderfully exspressed thank you for sharing.


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John Colarusso says

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    Kiss andTales 7 months ago

    Its not for you accurate . but many feel different on the subject. And is not compared to fictional characters. Which that would make you fictional if it was. The story and the beginning of man and womans existence is written there ,no other book.


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Mia Gordon (wadsy) says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    The whole bible is predicated on the notion that certain men received dictations from a magic super being from outer space. If that part is embellished, then it negates the whole belief system, as it is no longer the word of a God.


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Lolita Monroe (LoliHey) says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    No, I'm not seeking God. That would be silly! I'm just not understanding how modern day adults can be so gullible, not being able to see how childish their world view is. Your answer sounds really disturbing without the blinders of willful ignorance.


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rajashahzadnasir says

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    Kiss andTales 7 months ago

    Getit we can not say all food is bad neither can our bodies survive without it.Even though you claim not to believe

    You still benefit from the resources he provide for our survival.We certainly can not make a seed, rain, or the sun to make food

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cfin says

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    Kiss andTales 8 months ago

    Getit you are against religion understood , I can understand why because of bad representations and hypocricy.

    But even Jesus face the same thing

    Yet he did not deny his Father.

    Example I may not agree to how a person drives a car.

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Readmikenow says

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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 7 months ago

    It brings a great question. Why would an atheist focus on Christianity? Hell hath no fiery as a bruised bride.


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Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    But the very core of Christian belief systems are based more on the magic than any of the REAL historical accounts in the bible. We know that Rome and Egypt existed, but thats irrelevant. Virgin birth, and resurrection are the foundation of system


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Money Man (moneymindit) says

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    Kiss andTales 8 months ago

    No these are fictional characters . but the difference here is that we exist based on the existence of him who created all things. santa, Easter bunny,

    Leprechauns , they do not claim to create humans.

    Only he does. Isaiah 45:12.


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El Shaddai 2016 says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    I think I was specific enough. Examples of magic include parting the Red Sea...the Resurrection...virgin birth from a spirit...Manna from the sky...Noah's Ark...talking snakes...Enchanted Gardens with magic trees.


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Jack Lee (jackclee lm) says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    Just because we dont understand some things does not mean that the Bible is true. Your answer is an example of a Non sequitur fallacy.

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Anna (annalarissareyes) says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    Like raising the dead. parting the Red Sea,talking snakes, magic fish and loaves, walking on water. Yep these were just tricks to show off some sort of supernatural powers for entertainment. OK.

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Catherine Mostly (Misfit Chick) says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    I agree with most of what you're saying, Except for Jesus. If he did exist, I'm pretty sure he couldn't magically heal people. Only the application of medicine, care and therapy, or the body's ability to heal itself, has been shown to work.


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Leon Chase (Leon1345) says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    There's no need to become offensive. This question was created in response to another thread, where a hubber tried to make me admit that the Bible is an accurate history. So far there is no reasonable evidence without the aid of blind faith.


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sandytkd says

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    getitrite 7 months ago

    Actually, science is in conflict with holy books. And there is no evidence whatsoever that a spiritual world exists. It's also obvious that if holy books were not programmed into people, they would be considered childish and foolish...which they are!


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Nancy (Canurecipe) says

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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 8 months ago

    Please explain this a bit: "It truly is the belief of a higher purpose in souls that leaves us to question and demand that proof exists either within the Scientific or the Spiritual worlds." Interesting but too nebulous.

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peter565 says

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    Eric Dierker (Ericdierker) 8 months ago

    Your premise 1-5 is lacking. Holy inspiration is not included. A dogmatic institutionalized inspirationallized concept is born to the negation of real personalized inspiration. This is lost among the disbelievers. living is real.


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jtrader says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    Right. But the technology could be explained to me,by the inventor of the device, or I could figure it out on my own. The magic in the bible seems to violate the laws of nature,and have no explanations by modern science. 3 day old corpse resurrected?


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Grace Marguerite Williams (gmwilliams) says

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    Kiss andTales 8 months ago

    Grace I ask you is it true that humans die,?

    Adam and Eve died as was written history,

    What about the governments, did the Babylonian impire exist yes ! Did the Roman

    , Persian, did Cyrus who conquered Babylon ? Ezr 1:2 Thus saith Cyrus king


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Kiss andTales says

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    getitrite 8 months ago

    So do you believe that magic, sorcery, spells, roots, and all that stuff is real? Even magicians don't believe that. I asked this as a logical question. Why should I, an adult, believe in magic...when there is no evidence of magic in the real world?


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charlie (celafoe) says

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    LoisRyan13903 8 months ago

    Well said


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