Christian Demon Possession

Ephesians 4:14-15 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ.

I was first introduced to the teaching that a Christian could be demon possessed in the early 90's. A book by Neal Anderson called the Bondage Breakers had recently been released and several people I knew were excited about it. It seemed to make sense of many of the problems they were having in their lives spiritually. Due to their influence, I accepted the idea that Christians could incrementally become demon possessed, but abandoned it a few years later as I found that I had become fearful. Looking for demonic attack everywhere. I haven't read this book. So this is not a critical examination of the Bondage Breakers or Neal Anderson. However, I have seen this book promoted by many of the people that subscribe to this dangerous and erroneous doctrine.

At the time I was in my twenties and was at a stage in my Christian walk where my emotions were my primary guide and was often mistaken for the leading of the Holy Spirit. As a result, I was very susceptible to every wind of doctrine.

Now 20 years later, my life in the Church has shaped and tempered me. My relationship with God has grown deeper and more stable. I have learned the hard way to carry God's Word with me, hidden in my heart, like a concealed weapon. I tend to be more skeptical and I filter all my experiences through God's Word. As a rule, I avoid extreme doctrines.

It is with this understanding that I tackle the subject of Christian Demon possession. An extreme doctrine that undermines our faith in God's authority by calling into question his ability to save and keep us. It is my hope to spare you the pain I have experienced. It is no fun being batted around by every wind of doctrine. Sound teachings, will bring you balance, stability, and life everlasting. Both in this existence and the next.

When viewing this subject matter, It is import to remember just how much God loves us, and how committed He is to our relationship with Him as his children. Like a good father, he is our protector and our guide. He is determined to see us succeed in our Christian walk. To conform us into the image of Christ. Our daily focus should not be on the Devil, but on the love of God. Trusting Him to keep us safe from satanic possession or oppression. Never the less, there is value in understanding what the bible says about Satan. To understand his methods and his capabilities so that we can guard against his diabolical schemes


Caution must my watch word
Caution must my watch word

Caution!!

I broach the subject of demonic influence acutely aware that, most often, it falls into the realm of superstition and fantasy. That the explanation for behavior that defies normal human patterns and physical abilities are a matter of faith. Therefore it is subjective to ones personal beliefs. It is the sort of thing that calls into questions ones sanity. Caution must be our watch word. What we believe, defines us. When it comes to the spiritual realm this is especially true.

The psychiatric fields have made a great deal of progress over the past hundred years. They have helped us distinguish between the physical and the spiritual. Even so, there are those areas that seem to over lap. Some gray areas where demonic activity manifests itself through the appearance of mental illness. Epilepsy, Multiple Personality Disorders, and Tourette syndrome are a few neurological symptoms that often accompany genuine cases of demonic possession. So as you can imagine the difficulty is knowing when it is simply the frailty of the human body or if it is something more.

While doing research on this subject, I found an article by WorldNetDaily

Called "Real-life case of demon possession documented."

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=58835

It is an article about a patient of Dr. Richard E. Gallagher, a board-certified psychiatrist and associate professor of clinical psychiatry at New York Medical College.

Dr. Gallagher documented his experience with an American woman whom he called Julia who levitated, demonstrated paranormal psychic powers and spoke foreign languages unknown to her. His only explanation for the things he witnessed was demonic possession. He published the case in the February 2008 issue of the New Oxford Review.

According to Dr Gallagher, Julia did not respond to normal psychiatric treatments. She had a long history of involvement with Satanic groups, was observed by a team of priests, deacons, several lay assistants, psychiatrists, nuns, some of whom also had medical and psychiatric training, levitating six inches off the ground while objects flew off shelves in the same room.

"Periodically, in our presence, Julia would go into a trance state of a recurring nature," writes Gallagher. "Mentally troubled individuals often 'dissociate,' but Julia's trances were accompanied by an unusual phenomenon: Out of her mouth would come various threats, taunts and scatological language, phrases like 'Leave her alone, you idiot,' 'She's ours,' 'Leave, you imbecile priest,' or just 'Leave.' The tone of this voice differed markedly from Julia's own, and it varied, sometimes sounding guttural and vaguely masculine, at other points high pitched. Most of her comments during these 'trances,' or at the subsequent exorcisms, displayed a marked contempt for anything religious or sacred."

WorldNetDaily reported that the purpose of Gallagher's paper is to "document a contemporary and clear-cut case of demonic possession." Dr Gallagher explains that even those who doubt such a phenomenon exists may find this case "rather persuasive."

While Dr. Gallagher's case was fairly believable, there is mountains of information out there that, quite frankly, sounds made up. One man would put feathers between the toes of those possessed while he removed the demon. Believing it aided in his sensitivity somehow. Most mixed a little scripture with a whole lot of imagination.

With this in mind, I wish to establish what I believe to be a sound doctrinal guide lines. Specifically, as it relates to the saved believer. The bible gives us a great deal of information about the demonic realm. In spite of all the myths that surround this subject, I believe I can present a biblical picture that is both accurate and practical.


Lusifer being thrown out of heaven
Lusifer being thrown out of heaven

Possession

The bible gives us two distinct pictures of demonic influence. Two ways that demons interact with humanity. One is through possession or the indwelling and ownership of the individual's will and body or oppression, the troubling of the mind and emotions.

Possession can be found in numerous places in the new testament. One of the more vivid accounts is the Man who lived in the tombs or better known as the Demoniac (Mark 5:1-18 and Luke 8:26-38.) Hollywood loves to depict this particular type of demonic influence in horror films. It is the most serious and intrusive of the two. Possession involves the entering of a demon, or demons, into an individual. Taking control of his mind, will, and emotions to some degree. Robbing him of his free will. Typically, there is some sort of supernatural activity involved. Super strength, fortune telling or prophesying, any number of things have been attributed to this affliction.

Mark 5:1-18 is the perfect illustration. Here we see a man who is out of control. Who no longer has a free will.

Mark 5:2-5 And when He(Jesus) had come out of the boat, immediately there met Him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no one could bind him, not even with chains, because he had often been bound with shackles and chains. And the chains had been pulled apart by him, and the shackles broken in pieces; neither could anyone tame him. And always, night and day, he was in the mountains and in the tombs, crying out and cutting himself with stones.

These verses indicate, with verse 7, that the man had supernatural strength and supernatural knowledge. For he was able to brake chains, brake shackles into pieces and knew Jesus' true identity. This is important because it Makes clear that his condition was more then insanity or mental illness. Supernatural activity is one of the ear marks of a genuine case of Demonic habitation.

Next, they show us a man who regularly exhibited extreme violent behavior and was a danger to the greater community for they had often tried to restrain him. He lived like a wild beast roaming the tombs and mountains and could not be tamed. His dwelling was in the tombs, that desolate place of death. Indicating a man with no conscience, the loss of his sanity, and self control. A picture of complete depravity.

The saddest, most heart wrenching detail however, is the emotional condition in which we find him. He was exceedingly miserable and clearly in despair. He was seen crying out in anguish and cutting himself with stones. Calling for death to find him. In many of the credible accounts I read the demonized person does not live in a constant state of possession, most often, they are in their right minds. While sain they live in fear, torment, and self hate. Dreading the next time they loose control. Is there any question as to why this man was crying out? Demon possession is a constant state of torment, misery and despair. The one who is possessed is a pitiable creature indeed

According to Mark 5:8, This particular demoniac is in the clutches of a legion of demons. Desperate and helpless. Just like sin, one often leads to another. This speaks to the degree or depth of his bondage. This man was literally overwhelmed by the Devil.

Mark 5: 6 When he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped Him.

I find it very interesting that this man worshiped Jesus while he was still possessed. His condition had not changed he was just as ruined, lost, and in bondage at this moment on his knees, as he was before he came to Jesus.

Mark 5: 7-10 And he cried out with a loud voice and said, “What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore You by God that You do not torment me.”For He said to him, “Come out of the man, unclean spirit!” Then He asked him, “What is your name?” And he answered, saying, “My name is Legion; for we are many.” Also he begged Him earnestly that He would not send them out of the country.

Here, we realize that it is not the man who is worshiping or addressing Jesus but the demons. Mark 5: 6-10 are important because these verses illustrate the man's loss of control over his tongue indicating demonic control over his mind and body, that he no longer has a free will. They show Jesus' authority over the demon or demons. Also, these verses begs the question, if a demon, who is not saved and has no hope of salvation, or any intention of living for God, will worship; is it not possible for humans to do the same? Many a person postures themselves before Jesus every Sunday morning and Wednesday evening in worship recognizing, and even acknowledging by faith, his true identity, yet they haven't made Him the Lord of their life. They fail to overcome their sin and remain enslaved to their sinful nature. In truth, they are not saved. They are slaves to their sin just as surely as this man is enslaved by his demons.

Romans 6:12-14 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.


Salvation Is Deliverance

Salvation Is Deliverance

We are told here in Mark 5:8-13 that Jesus commanded the demons to go into a large herd of pigs. The demons obeyed and some 2000 pigs ran to their death into the sea. Giving us an indication as to how many demons where binding this man to their will.

Mark 5:15 Then they came to Jesus, and saw the one who had been demon-possessed and had the legion, sitting and clothed and in his right mind. And they were afraid.

It is important to notice that in every account documented for us in the New Testament, we see that when a demon-possessed person comes to Christ he is delivered instantly and completely, on the spot. In every case, deliverance is salvation. Jesus never left a person with a demon partially in control. If Jesus sets you free you are free indeed (John 8:36)

Mark 5:18 -20 And when He got into the boat, he who had been demon-possessed begged Him that he might be with Him. However, Jesus did not permit him, but said to him, “Go home to your friends, and tell them what great things the Lord has done for you, and how He has had compassion on you.” And he departed and began to proclaim in Decapolis all that Jesus had done for him; and all marveled.

This is a perfect ending to our story. The man, now in his right mind, wants to follow and be with Jesus. A true Christ follower. This is a wonderful picture of salvation. Jesus tells the man to go and tell everyone what God had accomplished in his life. Who can argue with the testimony of a man, once in bondage, who is now set free.

But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little. (Luke 7:47)

Although I have never been demon possessed, I have been in bondage to my sin. Jesus said that anyone who sins is a slave to sin (John 8:34) Proverbs tells us that the cords of sin ensnare us like a trap (Prov 5:22). Paul tells us not to let sin reign in our mortal bodies lest we obey its evil desires. (Romans 6:12) The reality is that all saved believers have been delivered from their body of sin. We, like the demoniac, are helpless without Christ Jesus to save our soul from Hell. An ear mark of salvation is a grateful heart toward our savior. When we come to grips with who we are without Jesus, how much he has forgiven, and how enslaved we are to our flesh and in some cases demons as well. We, like the demoniac, are overjoyed and our love for Him deepens. Shining a light on Jesus' words "If you love me you will obey my commands" (John 14:15)

My Conclusion

It is my position that a Christian, A saved believer can't be demon possessed because salvation and deliverance is one and the same. Those who come to Christ are delivered on the spot and are free indeed.

Whether it is from a demon or simply a pack of cigarettes. Jesus is our salvation and our deliverer. Satan no longer has authority over your life. You are now a child of God and He protects his children. Your flesh no longer has mastery over you for you have been set free.

How can one say that Jesus is the Lord of his life, if he is serving himself or the Devil. How can one be free indeed if he is still in bondage? The road to demonic possession starts by indulging in depravity without remorse or self-control. By chasing after the sinful desires of the flesh. The more we sin the easier it becomes. A severing of the conscience takes place. In truth, all humanity are enslaved by our sinful nature long before we are enslaved by the Devil. Possession is a process. One who is possessed by a demon has been on this road for a long time and has, at some point, consciously submitted their will to the Devil.

We as saved believers are no longer slaves to sin but slaves to Righteousness.

Romans 6:17-23 But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered. And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves of For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things righteousness for holiness is death. But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Dear friend, It is my sincerest hope that we all will submit ourselves to God 's will. If we are to be possessed by anything or any one, let it be His Holy Spirit. For He loves us, and cares for us. As we yield ourselves to His way, He guides us down a road that leads to heaven's doorstep. While on this path we are free from demonic oppression and fear. For we have an intimate relationship with God and are, secure in his arms of Love.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.


Check Mate

The Wiles Of The Devil

Ephesians 6:10- 11 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

The other type of demonic Influence is seen but not so easy to label. It is seen vividly in 4 places. In the Garden in the form of a serpent (Gen 3) in the life of Saul, the first king of Israel (1 Samuel 16:1). In the story of Job (Job 1), and in the temptations of Christ. (Mat 4:1-11) These accounts show Satan using outside means or life's circumstances to effect human behavior. This type of demonic interaction differs from the demonic possession in that we don't see a demon entering the person's body and toppling the mind. Effectively robbing the individual of his free will.

In Gen 3, we see a representation of Satan in the form of a serpent. Recorded for us is a dialog between Eve and the serpent that reveals Satan's primary weapon. Satan successfully manipulates Eve into eating the forbidden fruit. Effectively separating humanity from the presence of God.

I like this example because it shows us that Satan has an agenda of his own revealing his free will. That his agenda is the demise of the kingdom of God. That he uses manipulation as his primary tool. He used Eve's pride, her sense of justice, and her ignorance against her to accomplish his agenda. He twisted God's words in such a way as to cast doubt on God's motives providing Eve with justification for selfish ambition. I find it interesting that all he did was manipulate. It would appear that both Adam and Eve had to willfully rebel against God. He at no time entered Eve's body or mind and forced her to eat the forbidden fruit. We know that he has this capability, it is very telling that he didn't posses Eve and force her to sin. In my mind, possession would have been the fastest and surest way to accomplish his evil plot. Instead he chose the more risky route. Trickery, cunning craftiness and deceitful plotting. This demonstrates that Satan was limited in what he could do. Clearly it had to be her own desire. This speaks to the importance of our free will. If he had forced her she would have been sinless. For then she could have said the Devil made me do it.

1st Samuel 16:14"But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord troubled him."

The word "troubled " is giving us a clue into the effect the evil spirit was having on Saul's emotions and thoughts. It could mean that he was plagued by any number of emotional conditions. However, an examination of the word troubled in Hebrew, combined with the other things we know of his life, tells us that fear and paranoia were his primary emotions. Here again, Satan used Saul's fears against him. I like this example because it gives meaning to 2nd Corinthians 10:3-6 proving that the battle is in the mind.

2 Corinthians 10:3-6 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.

Further, 1st Samuel states that the evil spirit was from the Lord, showing God's authority over it and that God had some purpose in allowing it to trouble Saul. Also, the word troubled gives us an accurate word to use to label this particular kind of interaction. It shows us the effect this type of demonic influence has on both the saved, and the unsaved, in varying degrees ranging from the severe to the mild.

In Job's case (Job 1:1-22 and Job 2:1-10), Satan used a whole gamut of personal disasters to arouse feelings of grief, self pity, anger, fear, and betrayal. His goal was to manipulate Job's emotions to encourage him to curse God. I like this example because it shows that God uses Satan's Agenda to accomplish His will. That He puts limits on what Satan can do. It demonstrates the length's that Satan will go to and the brutality in which he is willing to use to accomplish his goals. There can be no doubt that He would, if left unchecked, destroy all mankind. As with Eve, it is clear that Satan had no power over Job's tongue or mind. Proving that Job retained his free will.

In the case of Christ's temptations (Mat 4:1-11)Satan sought to trick Jesus into sinning. Each temptation was designed to arouse feelings of self importance, to fool him into acting in a prideful way by proving that he was the son of God. Causing Christ to sin would disqualify him as our savior.

As with Job and Eve, at no time do we see Satan taking Christ's free will, forcing him to sin. If ever there was a time in which Satan would have done so, it was here. Illustrating once again that God placed boundaries around him. Whether he likes it or not, he clearly was unable to step outside these boundaries.

Notice that once again Satan used reason and his knowledge of Jesus's surroundings to attempt to manipulate him. However, Christ recognized the ploy and did not yield to the temptations of his flesh. Illustrating effective spiritual warfare. Jesus took captive every thought and used God's Word to rule his personal ambitions and actions. Satan miscalculated, Jesus was submitted to God, not the desires of his flesh.


Oppression Vs Troubled

The most common word for this type of interaction is oppressed. Oppression infers harsh and cruel treatment by a powerful person or government It also speaks to our emotions. It is a feeling of being worried or unhappy. The problem with this word is it suggests that Satan has some level of authority in our lives. For example the children of Israel were oppressed by pharaoh in Egypt. They were being held against their will. This is inaccurate when applied to the saved believer for according to Colossians 1:13, the saved believer is no longer under his dominion or power.

Colossians 1:12- giving thanks to the Father who has qualified us to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in the light. He has delivered us from the power (or dominion) of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.

In my life, I see a relentless struggle between me and God or said another way, my sinful nature and God. The real oppressor in my life is my own selfish desires. I need very little persuading from the Devil to convince me to appease my flesh. It comes natural. This is why Paul said in Romans 7:14-20

Romans 7:14-20 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.

According to Romans 8 we have been set free from the law of sin and death

Romans 8: 1-7 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

The word oppressed is closer in nature to the word possessed, denoting ownership. Since the unsaved are still in the flesh and can't please God, they are still under Satan's authority. Making it possible to apply the word oppressed with accuracy to the life of the unsaved.

However, I prefer the word used in 1st Samuel 16:14. which is "troubled". For it accurately describes what we see throughout the Bible. It would be accurate weather you are saved or unsaved. It paints a precise picture of our enemy, and how he effects us most often on a daily bases. The word troubled in Hebrew is bâ‛ath pronounced baw-ath'. According to Strongs Hebrew Dictionary bâ‛ath means to make afraid to terrify or to make trouble.

It is clear from the above accounts that manipulation is Satan's primary weapon. Through trickery, cunning craftiness and deceitful plotting he will afflict the body physically and emotionally, to accomplish his agenda. That he uses our sinful nature, our emotions, our sense of justice, our reasoning, and our ignorance for his advantage. He works in chorus with our sinful nature to bend our free will to his. Yet he can't force us. He is, like you and I, under God's authority. He does not have open back stage passes to the mind, will, and emotions. When dealing with the saved believer, the best he can do is to trouble our minds by using cause an effect.

Even so, we can rejoice and be comforted. There is no reason to be fearful. Satan's boundaries have been set. Despite his best efforts, in the end, his agenda accomplishes God's purposes in our life. For in reality, God is sovereign.

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

In light of this, it becomes clear why Peter commanded us to be sober and vigilant.

1Peter 5:8-11 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world. But may the God of all grace, who called us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a while, perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you. To Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.

Peter describes the Devil as a roaring lion, a frightening and intimidating beast who prays upon those that aren't paying attention. Indeed he is. Peter also points out that if we are alert, we can resist him. God will use the suffering we experience during our struggle to perfect us, guide us, strengthen us, and to temper us. Our suffering will accomplish His will in our life, which is, to conform us into the image of Christ


Face Your Fear

A Toothless Lion

I heard once that the lion making all the noise is not the lion that we need to be afraid of. As lions get old they slow down and loose their teeth. Making it very difficult to catch and kill their pray. So what they do is work within the pride. The old lion will make itself visible to the intended pray stepping out into the open, up wind, allowing his presence to make the intended victims nervous drawing all attention to himself. Meanwhile, the younger lions go into hiding behind and down wind from the herd of antelope or Gazelle. At the appropriate moment. The old lion will put on a show of strength with a loud earth shaking roar he purposely causes the herd to bolt. They instinctively run in the opposite direction of the old lion who in truth posed no real danger to the animals. Instead they run head long and unaware into the clutches of the younger lions who were waiting to pounce.

This illustration speaks to the importance of facing your fears by standing fast in the face of your enemy. For the saved believer, the Devil is that old lion who by the death and resurrection of Jesus, has lost his teeth and poses no real danger to you unless you allow him to trouble you. Making James 4:7 all the more relevant:

James 4:7 Submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

in addition, Ephesians 6:10 - 11 tells us to stand firm in our faith and trust in the power of his might:

Ephesians 6:10- 11 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

It is my firm conviction that as saved believers, we must be on guard, vigilant and prepared to defend ourselves from the enemy's attacks. Even an old lion can be destructive if he catches you unaware. But I am convinced that we as saved believers are free from his authority and safe in the care of the Holy Spirit. The Devil will try to harass you, trip you, make you miserable physically and emotionally. He will cast doubt on the love of God and indeed your salvation. But unless you subscribe to his interpretation of events and scripture, if you accept the misery he hands out and allow it to accuse God. He can do little more then make a big noise with a toothless grin.

There can be no doubt that we as saved believers must deal with our sin nature. That many of the our selfish desires lead us into addictions, a type of slavery. As a saved believer, when or if, we find ourselves in this position, it is critical that we understand that our captor is not the Devil, but our own sinful nature. An exorcists will not save us, rebuking the Devil will not remove our craving for sin. Our only hope is repentance and the submitting and setting our desire on God's will.

Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

I leave you with the knowledge that what ever you are struggling with in your life God is greater. Like Daniel in the lions den, he is able to shut the lions mouth. God, whom we serve continually is able to save us. (Daniel 6:20)

Your Brother in Christ

ABR

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Wintermyst 5 years ago

Very well written and put together


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Abrushing1968 5 years ago from USA- Florida Author

Thanks you Wintermyst, Thanks for stopping by.


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onceuponatime66 5 years ago from USA IL

Outstanding article on demon possession.


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Abrushing1968 5 years ago from USA- Florida Author

Thank you onceuponatime66 for your word of encouragement and for taking the time to read and comment,


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onceuponatime66 5 years ago from USA IL

I leave you with the knowledge that what ever you are struggling with in your life God is greater. Like Daniel in the lions den, he is able to shut the lions mouth. God, whom we serve continually is able to save us. (Daniel 6:20)

What a great example. Daniel was put into the den with the Lions and no harm came to Daniel because God is more powerful. AMEN what a lesson to ponder.


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James A Watkins 5 years ago from Chicago

Wow! You have gone deep into this subject. Part of my conclusion about this topic has to do with Calvinist beliefs about "the elect." Those who are chosen—according to this theology—can never be lost.

Regardless, I do believe in the influence of demons on human beings. Thank you for such a comprehensive view.


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Abrushing1968 5 years ago from USA- Florida Author

James I am grateful that you took the time to labor through this writing. It is the longest work I have ever done. I enjoyed putting it together but struggled in presenting it as one article specifically because of it's length. I am touched that you took the time. I am honored whenever anyone reads my stuff. Especially when it is so long.

I subscribe to many of of the Calvinist teachings but not all. 5 point Calvinism is one of those "extreme" doctrines that caused a great deal of problems for me.

I see Calvinism as viewing the human condition from God's perspective only. It is one sided. It has very little regard for the human perspective. Arminius was one sided as well, he approached our responsibility to God from humanities perspective only. Both perspectives when taken to their extreme boundaries lead to instability and extreme behavior.

It is important to keep in mind that Jesus was 100% man and 100% God. We can not serve him unless we understand both perspectives. It is crazy but it appears that both Calvin and Arminius were right. I am learning to allow each perspectives to bring balance to each other.

God Bless bro and thanks for stopping by. I look forward to your next hub. Please do come again.

In Christ

ABR


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James A Watkins 5 years ago from Chicago

I have independently reached exactly the same conclusion—that Calvin and Arminius were both right!!! Very cool.


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Abrushing1968 5 years ago from USA- Florida Author

Thanks James, that is indeed cool!


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lindatymensky 5 years ago

This is a remarkable good article on the subject. I'm keeping it for reference. I'm following you! Keep 'em coming. Linda


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revmjm 5 years ago from Richmond, VA

I was holding my breath and was ready to give you thumbs down until I read this in your article: "It is my position that a Christian, a saved believer can't be demon possessed because salvation and deliverance is one and the same. Those who come to Christ are delivered on the spot and are free indeed." Thanks for including that paragraph because I also believe that if we belong to God we cannot be possessed by the devil; however, we can be oppressed, depressed and obsessed. Only one can possess us: God or Satan.

I teach a spiritual warfare course, and I have been reluctant to post an article on the subject because of its controversial nature. You have done a great job and you backed it up with scriptures. Thanks for sharing.


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Abrushing1968 5 years ago from USA- Florida Author

Revmjm:

I am honored by your words of encouragement. It is indeed a highly controversial subject. I understand your hesitation. However this is such an important subject it is vital that people get it right.I beleive that the people we meet and the things we read impact us. They influence us in a powerful way. If you have Godly Knowledge given to by His Spirit, you should share it so that you can add to my understanding. Influencing the way that I believe.

Thanks for stopping by

In Christ

ABR


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA

Hi brother Abrushing1968 ~ Very good hub. I found confirmation in the following statements: “In many of the credible accounts I read the demonized person does not live in a constant state of possession, most often, they are in their right minds. While sane they live in fear, torment, and self hate. Dreading the next time they loose control.”

“Also, these verses begs the question, if a demon, who is not saved and has no hope of salvation, or any intention of living for God, will worship; is it not possible for humans to do the same? Many a person postures themselves before Jesus every Sunday morning and Wednesday evening in worship recognizing, and even acknowledging by faith, his true identity, yet they haven't made Him the Lord of their life.” This is what I call the “professing, but not confessing ‘Christian’.”

It’s awesome how you pointed out how Satan didn’t possess Eve or Adam, neither Saul nor Christ Jesus. Man has a free will, until that free will allows sin to control them to such a degree that it becomes demonic possession. It surely is progressive. The only way to survive the manipulative serpent is to keep godly boundaries without stepping outside of them! Amen!!

As you stated, Israel was oppressed by Pharaoh. They did nothing wrong. Christians can certainly be oppressed by others who are relentless, trying to fill the abyss in their souls ~ kind of like the vampire concept. Just as Israel had a set time to endure the oppression, so we will face this at times ~ maybe even “a time, times and a half time”. This is why the latter part of 1 Pet 5:8-11 really ministered to me (we all know the first part, right?) “But may the God of all grace, who called us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, AFTER YOU HAVE SUFFERED A LITTLE WHILE, perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you. To Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.” It’s kind of like Luke 22:32, when Jesus said to Peter (in regard to Satan’s request to sift him like wheat), “But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith will not fail. So WHEN YOU RECOVER, strengthen the other disciples." Jesus did not say Satan wouldn’t attack him, but prayed that he stand firm in the faith and also prophesied that Peter would recover to strengthen others. In this we can rest.

I appreciate all the research you did, receiving of the Holy Spirit’s guidance and obedience to write on this topic.


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Abrushing1968 5 years ago from USA- Florida Author

JD

As always, it is a honor to have you stop by. 1 Peter 5:8 is one of my favorite verses. Like you, I have to remind myself to stand firm, that my present crisis is only for a season. It always brings me comfort to know that God has set the boundary. I will pray for your faith please do pray for mine.

God Bless

ABR


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA

I just wrote a hub called "Can a Christian be Demon-Possessed?" as I, too have come through the fiery trial, concluding that it's the possession of 'professing Christians' that brings this whole question to the forefront. Not everyone who looks 'like' Jesus, sporadically talks 'like' Jesus or walks 'like' Jesus is a child of Jesus! 'Professing Christians' that are wolves in sheeps' clothing do not feed the sheep; they feed on the sheep. Times are going to get more wicked as we get closer to Christ's return. This subject is being addressed and for good cause ~ may we pay attention and gird up. Yes, I'll pray for you and thank you for your prayers, too. Our Shepherd has His eye on us and will see us through (Ps 23).


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2besure 5 years ago from Charlotte, North Carolina

Thanks for taking the time to break down possession, mental illness and oppression. Well done!


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Abrushing1968 4 years ago from USA- Florida Author

Thanks 2besure, I am honored you took the time.

God Bless

ABR


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Raevyn14 4 years ago from Tecumseh, Oklahoma

You have to remember if you are touched by demons, they will remember you and you'll always be a target. I am a firm believer if there are angels, a god, and heaven. Then there must be a hell, devil and demons. If demons are around, no sould is safe, there have been several cases of demonic possessions, demonic attacks and none of them are pleasant, in exorcisms there is a 50-50 of life and death


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Abrushing1968 4 years ago from USA- Florida Author

Raevyn14:

...for I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day. 2 Timothy 1:12b

You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 1 John 4:4

I am not afraid of demons for they have no power over me. As a Christian,I have nothing to fear for I am in Christ.

In Christ.

ABR


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newjerusalem 3 years ago from India

A thought - provoking article . There are several true stories of Christians who say about their experience of being possessed by demons and their deliverance. I think their salvation is questionable-because as soon as a person is saved by the Lord, the whole kingdom of darkness looses its grip over his life. Those who are truly saved are , indeed, totally delivered from any demonic possession. If any one is in Christ, he (or she) is seated on the throne with Christ far above Satan,the principalities,powers,Authorities and the wicked spirits.

Walking in flesh also may resemble demonic possession;but the truly saved one can not continue to walk in flesh because of the Grace. It is better for demon-possessed Christians to check their salvation.


PMARTIN 2 years ago

I agree. a Christian cant be possessed because they have the Holy Spirit. It will not co exist with a demon. Christians can be attacked though (Job)


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newjerusalem 2 years ago from India

"It is my position that a Christian, A saved believer can't be demon possessed because salvation and deliverance is one and the same." An excellent conclusion you have given. In my experience I was much troubled, when people drove out demons from believers(so called!). After long years of struggle, I came to understand that if any one is a new creation all such things of old is passed away. If the person is found possessed by a demon or bunch of demons, then I can say, the person has not been saved -- not got delivered from the kingdom of darkness. In our spirit the holy Spirit dwells and furthermore we are sealed -- a perfect unbreakable protection -- by the Holy Spirit, so being possessed by the demons is ruled out. The truth is majority of so called Christians are not born again -- that's the trouble. In-christ-experience makes lot of differences -- in fact all differences. Good stand you have taken.


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Abrushing1968 2 years ago from USA- Florida Author

PMartin

I am glad you agree. A appreciate the time you gave to reading this Hub. I am truly honored.

God Bless

ABR


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Abrushing1968 2 years ago from USA- Florida Author

NewJerusalem:

Man... two comments wow, I am touched. I am glad we can agree. This is such an important topic with both spiritual and physical consequences. It is essential that we get it right.

Thanks again for reading and adding to this Hub.

Peace

ABR


Rosemarie Stewart 20 months ago

oh my!!!.. This is just wonderful and very well written!!.. You nailed it brother!. Thank you and it hit my spirit with a truthful force!.. Thank you for this and it enlightened me greatly!.. God bless you brother and keep up with the Lord.. Love you in Christ!. :)

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